Joseph Backes

This would be better if you gave the RIF#, and page # of where this is from. See - 180-10147-10235, page 146. But, well done. Now what's also worth noting is that endnote 567 says " See Section - " and that's it. They effectively erased the endnote.

This document has been discussed recently by Jeff Morley ( and perhaps others ) in the media frenzy over the latest JFK assassination records release. See - RIF #176-10030-10422. An interesting read. Joe

Okay, RFK Jr was not on Carlson's cable TV show saying this. It's just a tweet on Twitter. Robert F. Kennedy Jr @RobertKennedyJr The most courageous newscast in 60 years. The CIA’s murder of my uncle was a successful coup d'état from which our democracy has never recovered. @TuckerCarlson

Did the CIA use Cuban exiles in plot involving Oswald? Questions remain as Biden withholds JFK records Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article270075417.html#storylink=cpy Almost six decades after President John F. Kennedy’s assassination while he was riding in a motorcade in downtown Dallas, questions linger about who else, besides Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused gunman, might have been involved in what a 1979 congressional investigation report called a “conspiracy” to kill the American president. Fueling speculation and conspiracy theories anew, the CIA again vetoed the publication Thursday of thousands of documents related to the assassination, which President Joe Biden had vowed to release. In a White House memorandum, Biden said that 70 percent of the about 16,000 documents that had previously been issued with redactions by the National Archives were released in full Thursday. The rest, about 4,400 documents, will remain classified at least until next year “to protect against an identifiable harm to the military defense, intelligence operations, law enforcement, or the conduct of foreign relations that is of such gravity that it outweighs the public interest in disclosure,” the memorandum says. Some are so sensitive that they might even remain outside the public eye for longer, despite a 1992 law mandating full disclosure, the presidential memo suggests. “Any information that agencies propose for continued postponement of public release beyond June 30, 2023, shall be limited to the absolute minimum under the statutory standard,” the memo notes. But what could possibly be so sensitive so many years later? Beyond the disclosure of CIA procedures and tactics, researchers believe there is a trove of documents that could be highly embarrassing for the agency. Most of the 44 documents related to George Joannides, the chief of the psychological warfare branch of the CIA’s Miami station at the time, are among those that remain classified, experts at the Mary Ferrell Foundation, an online depository of JFK records, said Thursday. Jefferson Morley, a JFK assassination expert and author and vice president of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, believes Joannides ran an operation that involved Oswald and some Cuban exiles three months before the Dallas tragedy. If not pointing to Joannides’ involvement in the conspiracy to kill Kennedy himself, at the very least researchers believe those withheld documents would confirm that Oswald was a well-known subject to the U.S. intelligence community, an acknowledgment that the CIA still denies, while also shedding more light on his encounters with Cuban exiles. The CIA appointed Joannides as the contact point for the House’s Select Committee on Assassinations that completed its investigation into the Dallas events in 1978, without informing the committee of Joannides’ past experience handling the very same Cuban exile groups members of Congress were investigating. “Is there a “smoking gun? Is there one piece of paper that proves a conspiracy? No .... But there IS smoking gun proof that CIA had an operational interest in Oswald while JFK was alive,” Morley tweeted early Thursday. Last October, the Mary Ferrell Foundation sued the Biden administration, asking for the release of all remaining documents. In a press conference after the publication of the new trove of documents, Morley questioned if the CIA was acting “in good faith” by denying the public the complete records. Members of the foundation told reporters that, at first glance, many documents appeared to be published with similar redactions to past versions. “It’s damage control, throwing a bone,” Morley said. “This charade of continuing non-disclosure in the face of a very clear law, the CIA doesn’t have the benefit of the doubt anymore.” The CIA disputed claims it is unreasonably withholding records. “CIA believes all substantive information known to be directly related to Oswald has been released,” the agency said in a statement. “The few remaining redactions protect CIA employee names, sources, locations, and CIA tradecraft.” The agency also said that the claim that it has not disclosed a set of documents about Oswald that were part of Joannides’ files in the JFK Collection at the National Archives “is false.” “We believe all CIA records substantively related to Mr. Joannides were previously released, with only minor redactions, such as CIA employees’ names and locations,” the statement says. To pollster and JFK researcher Fernand Amandi, who conducted a recent poll asking Americans if they wanted to see the records released — most said yes — whatever is in the remaining files is of such nature that it has pushed the CIA “to break the law.” “What the CIA has determined is the following: It is better to expose themselves to public criticism and literally act against what U.S. law says, that it is preferable to do that than having to deal with what can be published,” Amandi said. THE ROLE OF CUBAN EXILES Some Cuban exiles who were part of this history were also hoping a full disclosure of Joannides’ record would help them understand what role, if any, they played in this alleged conspiracy. Jose Antonio Lanuza, 83, a former member of the Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, or Revolutionary Student Directorate, a Cuban exile anti-Castro organization active in the 1960s, told the Herald he was hoping the remaining documents would confirm a long-held suspicion that he, and other Directorate members, were used by Joannides, the organization’s case handler in Miami, to create and later spread the fake narrative that Oswald was a pro-Castro sympathizer, providing a handy motive for the assassination. The events involving Directorate members and Oswald are well documented. According to Lanuza and several other accounts and historical records, Oswald, a former U.S. Marine with the implausible story of having defected to the Soviet Union and later returned to the United States with little consequence, approached one of the Directorate members, New Orleans store owner Carlos Bringuier, in August 1963. Oswald offered to help the organization fight Fidel Castro. But shortly after, Bringuier found Oswald at a spot close to his store handing out leaflets from Fair Play for Cuba, a pro-Castro organization. A brawl ensued, and both men were arrested. Bringuier and Oswald later debated on a radio show in which Oswald stated his Marxist beliefs, Lanuza said. And when Oswald was publicly identified as JFK’s assassin three months later, Lanuza, the Directorate’s liaison with the media, immediately told the story of the pro-Castro American who had killed the president. “I think [the CIA] built this legend,” Lanuza said. “Why? Because when it became known that he had killed Kennedy, an idiot named José Antonio Lanuza, that’s me, suddenly his memory would tell him, hey, I know this guy, this is Castro sympathizer.” Lanuza, who was based in Miami at the time, said he gathered all the evidence he had about Oswald that Bringuier had forwarded to him (a Navy manual Oswald handed as proof of his credentials, the radio show recording and a handwritten letter by Oswald offering his services, which is now lost) to make the case to Luis Fernandez Rocha, the Directorate top secretary, that Oswald was an agent for Castro. Rocha, who is now deceased, contacted the organization’s CIA handler, a man named “Howard” whom researchers later identified as Joannides. The CIA agent had one instruction: “Don’t give the press anything; wait an hour.” “I did not wait for the hour. At exactly 50 minutes, I was sitting with two phones calling journalists,” Lanuza recalled. “I left them a message saying: President John Kennedy was assassinated by a pro-Castro agent in the United States, a member of Fair Play for Cuba. And I spent more than two hours on the phone.” Other members of the Directorate repeated that message publicly at the time. Morley has also advanced a version of this theory, but he told reporters last week that he believes Joannides may have used Oswald to undermine the work of Fair Play for Cuba. Morley has also advanced a version of this theory, but he told reporters last week that he believes Joannides may have used Oswald to undermine the work of Fair Play for Cuba. But whatever the nature of the CIA’s “operational interest in Oswald,” Morley said Thursday, “we don’t know. That’s why we need the documents.”

Do you have Doug Horne's 5 volume set "Inside the ARRB," or the banker's box full of medical docs the ARRB released?

Every news story on this latest release has gotten everything wrong, even the most basic elements of the assassination. NBC's Andrea Mitchel thinking she's reciting the WC version of the event said shots came from the 3rd floor of the TSBD. Michael Beschloss has decided to blame the FBI for the assassination. He thinks they knew all about LHO and didn't tell the SS. I don't think that's true. It's certainly not accurate. And it's not that simplistic. On one NBC segment he asked why didn't they use "preventive detention," and arrest Oswald? Well, because he hadn't committed any crime and "preventive detention," didn't exist back then. It's an unconstitutional thing that people turn a blind eye to now as the excuse for doing is it fights terrorism. There's a famous clip of RFK ( nothing to do with the assassination of JFK ) mocking the very idea. Beschloss doesn't even bring up his own book, the first on the LBJ tapes that he did, where LBJ talks to Sen. Richard Russell about how he ( LBJ ) used the story of Mexico City to get Earl Warren to chair his commission looking into the assassination. And in the telling of that story LBJ ends with surprising Russell that he ( Russell ) will serve on that commission too. On the good side Beschloss does bring up that the FBI started destroying records right after Oswald is shot. This is what FBI agent James Hosty said once we learned LHO sent him a note weeks before the assassination. But, we didn't learn that until the 1970's.

No. The point of my post is that it doesn't look like you read it when it came out in April 6, 2018.

No, there was a press something last night. And there will be another today. It's too soon for anyone to do a proper, professional analysis of the release. I suspect it will merely be about how docs Morley wants were not in this release.

1.) Get all previously released versions of the document that you can. You can do this for many between the Mary Ferrell Foundation and what NARA scanned and put online starting in 2017. 2.) Read them. Compare and contrast them. 3.) Is there anything that was redacted that now isn't? Or are they merely releasing material they already released knowing the vast majority of so called researchers will be too lazy and too stupid to notice? That happens to be the case with several documents so far. 4.) Do not read a document in ignorance of whether it had been released before and eager for attention proclaim how interesting it was to you and start a thread on it. Tragically, Larry will hold a press conf today ( 12/16/2022) as if he has done steps 1 - 3 above. It is impossible to have done a proper, professional analysis of 13,000+ documents overnight. You're setting yourself up for failure to pretend that you have. A slower more cautious approach to at least give yourself a weekend would have been a smart move, even better to come back to this after the holidays. Joe

RIF 157-10014-10227 was released in April 6, 2018. I'm not seeing where anything in the previous release was still redacted and now no longer is. Joe

Exactly right.

Vince Palamara found a cleaner copy that's easier to read. No upside down pages or a page that so off kilter less than half of it got copied because whoever was copying it couldn't give a damn. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2022/104-10103-10079.pdf

This document was previously released on Nov 9th, 2017. Very little new has been released. Basically: On p. 8 chapter 4 “Liaison Operations,” is the title summed up in this paragraph. “We will continue to press the liaison services who are assisting us..” And then they continue to redact the liaison services who are most effectively cooperating. They continue to redact where they have audio and telephone tap penetration coverage of Cuban official installations. Two lines of text are redacted, far more than is needed to hide the two words “Mexico City.” On p. 10 in paragraph 8 the redacted word is Miami.

Yes. And some show absolutely no difference compared to previous release of the exact same document. 5.) 104-10003-10041 This document was previously released. New – NOTHING. There is no difference to the previous release of Nov 9, 2017. 7.) 104-10003-10100 New – NOTHING. There is no difference to the previous release of April 26, 2018.

Okay, one more time. 10,096 are CIA. These are the RIFs that start with 104. 9 are DIA. These are the RIFs that start with 111 8 are Dept of State. These are the RIFs that start with 119 1,573 are FBI. These are the RIFs that start with 124 1 is given the RIF 137-10005-10170, though it's really 180-10143-10135. This is really an HSCA document, handwritten, from Ed Lopez. 7 pages . ( Note, I made a mistake and had 135, not 137. ) 253 are NSA These are the RIFs that start with 144. 169 are Church Committee. These are the RIFs that start with 157 1 is ONI - 173-10011-10178 118 are National Security files from the JFK Library. These are the RIFs that start with 176 26 are from the LBJ library. These are the RIFs that start with 177 46 are from the Rockefeller Commission. These are the RIFs that start with 178. 2 are Dept of Justice. These are the RIFs that start with 179 603 are HSCA. These are the RIFs that start with 180. 12 are NARA files. These are the RIFs that start with 181 287 are Dept of Defense. These are the RIFs that start with 194 1 from the Office of the Secretary of Defense - 195-10005-10027 3 are from the Pentagon telecommunications center. These are the RIFs that start with 197 32 are Army, Califano papers. These are the RIFs that start with 198 ( Note, I was incorrect. I had more than 200 for some reason. ) 11 are from the Joint Chiefs of staff. These are the RIFs that start with 202.

Well, at least we're getting good press.

Okay, this is the breakdown as fast as I could do it. 10,096 are CIA 9 are DIA 8 are Dept of State 1,573 are FBI 1 is given the RIF 135-10005-10170, though it's really 180-10143-10135. This is really an HSCA document, handwritten, from Ed Lopez. 7 pages . 253 are NSA 169 are Church Committee 1 is ONI - 173-10011-10178 118 are RIFs starting with 176, I think these are National Security files from the JFK Library. 26 are from the LBJ library 46 are from the Rockefeller Commission 2 are 179 which are Dept of Justice 603 are HSCA 11 are NARA files 287 are Dept of Defense 1 from the Office of the Secretary of Defense - 195-10005-10027 3 are 197, the Pentagon telecommunications center 274 are Army, Califano papers 11 are from the Joint Chiefs of staff. Joe

Thank you!

Anyone see a bulk download option?

https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/release2022

I'd be happy if they were that competent.

What the hell is taking so long?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jfk-assassination-files-released-lee-harvey-oswald/