Vince Palamara

Bart Kamp messaged me and wanted me to share the following: "Vince

They are both back- he remastered them.

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18 hours ago, Allen Lowe said:

they were clearly trying to deflect attention away from their own culpability, either deliberate or not, for the assassination (and I believe, Vince, from reading a lot of your work, that there was Secret Service collusion in the killing). Remember what Abe Bolden said about their carelessness and racism. They had plenty of reason to defame someone who could no longer respond.

Thanks! Agreed.

20 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

I always thought that Jim Marrs had the best section on this issue in the first edition of Crossfire.  And even Specter talked about it in a broadcast interview I saw.

Drew Pearson reported on it also.   "Obviously men who have been drinking until nearly 3 AM are in no condition to be trigger alert or in the best physical shape to protect anyone." (p. 246). Marrs writes that although the club did not serve alcohol, it did allow people to bring alcohol into the club.  The Secret Service hired firemen to protect Kennedy that night.

Kirkwood told Marrs that he did have liquor, but instead of selling it, he gave it away. He was especially in the habit of giving it to people he felt could help them in a pinch, like lawyers, politicians and cops.  For a story in the  Fort Worth Star Telegram, Kirkwood's mother said her son was very generous with giving out liquor. Sometimes handing out 500 bucks worth a month.

The way the Secret Service got there was that reporters from the Press Club called and said they did not have a license  to sell drinks after midnight.  So the Secret Service came to Kirkwood's club and they were laughing about how firemen were guarding Kennedy.  

Jimmy Hill, who worked there for years said that, later they got a call from the White House asking them not to say anything about the agents drinking in order to cover up for image purposes.  Hill said, "We didn't say anything, but those guys were bombed. They were drinking pure Everclear." (p. 248)

I would wager the call was from Rowley or Kelly .  Who were both into the cover up neck deep.

THE DREW PEARSON ARTICLE:

EVEN IF (as author Jim DiEugenio believes) the agents are full of crap and these incidents never happened, the fact that four former JFK Secret Service agents spoke on national television for millions of people to see (this was also later a home VHS video for sale!) and in Seymour Hersh's book gives one great pause for alarm. One of the four agents was none other than Dallas follow-up car agent TIM MCINTIRE!

15 minutes ago, Jamey Flanagan said:

@Vince Palamarahave you ever heard anything about comedian George Carlin being there at The Cellar that night and entertaining the SS agents with his JFK impression?

No, but that is fascinating if true!

My very best to all from Great Britain. I am very sorry for your loss. Many of us loved the Queen, as well. Best wishes to you all and to King Charles III.

9 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Not quite sure what's so surprising here -- serious, professional researchers change their mind all the time based on examining evidence. Do you have a problem with Gus Russo having done this?

Not a "problem", per se. I was just unaware of Russo stating pro-conspiracy beliefs on TV/on video.

CHECK OUT THE 1:59 MARK!

11 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

Well, then, I probably ought to read it. One of the great ironies of my jaunt through research-land came at a mini-conference hosted by Dr. Aguilar, where Mantik and Thompson, with whom I usually agree, had a strong disagreement over the dictabelt. The irony was that I found myself swayed by Mantik's arguments, and thought those rallying behind Thompson were doing so based more on his personal charisma, than on the substance of his arguments. 

ANOTHER reason for you to get this book, Pat:

#171 book I am in (14-plus pages). It sounds like a great one- can't wait to get it when it comes out!

525 pages.

Amazon.com: JFK Assassination Paradoxes: Essays And Reviews & JFK's Head Wounds: 9798848014037: Mantik M.D., David W.: Books

I document 72 witnesses who stated that the limo slowed or stopped. Some use this tally (as well as my old tally of 59 witnesses) to "prove" that the limo stopped and the Z film was altered. I believe the limo slowed down but did not actually come to a full and complete stop (a rolling stop would be the proper way to describe this slow down). Stopped? "almost"-

18 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

I doubt that’s why Ruth took Marina in. 

It does seem odd. I agree.

Very interesting excerpt (page 313) of The Lone Star Speaks: Untold Texas Stories About the JFK Assassination by Sara Peterson and K.W. Zachry (2020)

19 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Thanks Vince.  I thought this was pretty good.  It was FCC mandated since NBC had done a hatchet job on Garrison in June of 1967.

It drove Tony Summers over the edge, Paul Hoch style, at the AARC conference in 2014. 

He bitterly attacked Andre Kreig for playing it.

Wow--I had no idea that Summers did that!

@James DiEugenio