Karl Kinaski

John: don't macerate every thread.

If Stoughton remained in Dallas, how he could make these photos? KK Good question Karl. Stoughton took the swearing in photos and he got off the AF1 after taking them. Since AF2 landed at Andrews after AF1, he couldn't have taken these photos by returning on a later plane. What is the answer? I would have to say that the Andrews photos are mislabeled as Stoughtons when they were probably taken by someone else - Kundson? - http://www.americanh...988_7_142.shtml Trask: The ceremony was over within half a minute. The President ordered Air Force One back to Washington, and those remaining in Dallas left the plane, Stoughton among them. He would stay to have his unprocessed film developed and sent out via the wire services. When Kilduff handed Stoughton the Dictabelt recording of the oath of office, the captain felt that he had been made totally responsible for history’s record of this momentous event. The visible continuity of the Republic had been accomplished. The government continued. And Stoughton was carrying the proof. No one was allowed to enter or leave the airstrip until Air Force One took off. Just about the time the plane became airborne at 2:47 P.M., a press bus from Parkland arrived on the scene. The pool reporter Sid Davis, who had been aboard during the swearing-in, described the event to the other reporters who gathered around him. A nickel was flipped to see which bureau would process the undeveloped pictures. AP won the toss. After a dash to the Dallas Morning News Building, where the AP office was located, the film was handed over to a technician. Stoughton went into the darkroom with him... BK I ve just read the same article. There are some oddity's in Stoughtons Story... quote americanheritage: The next few days blur in Stoughton’s memory.(sic) “I was going all day Friday, Friday night, and shooting pictures (KK: of what?) at four o’clock in the morning.(KK. Where...at Dallas or Washington...?) I went back home, changed clothes, and went back to the White House (Aha, Washington...not a single word about the way he get from Dallas to Washington, when, on which plane etc...) to cover Johnson’s official meetings. Close quote... KK

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If Stoughton remained in Dallas, how he could make these photos? KK

samey in austria/europe---bandwidth limit exceeded. KK

LOL You made my day... KK PS I am not sure about R. Groden. This witty man could be the greatest pseudo Cter and mole in the CTer Community ever...and those arrests maybe a fake, like the arrests of Lee Oswald in NOLA...to produce an image of a CTer martyr. But mole or not...anyway...I like that guy...but there IS a possibility that Groden and Mack are working hand in hand.. KK

This whole second head shot business is rather academic. The head shot entering JFKs right temple ( Z 313)at the hairline, causing the exit wound at the back of his head ,occipital bone; where the Harper fragment fits in), is enough to explain the original head injuries seen by the Parkland staff and to prove (at last) the existence of a second shooter, to debunk the Lone Nut (and SB) Theories as a Cover up, and therefore convince everybody with a brain (still) in his head, that there was in fact a conspiracy...Josh Thompson SIX SECONDS... started with this second head shot nonsense in an attempt to declare the oddities of the Zappi Film genuine... Is the 18 mio $ Zappi film a fake: yes Was there a second head shot: no Is (Luce-slave)Thompson a pseudo Cter? yes... Is (Kodak-CIA-man)Rolli Zavada another Thompson? Yes. Who is the greatest living authority in the research community today?- Doug Horne Are Horne and Mack like fire and water? yes KK

Hunt vs Liberty Lobby( 1984?): a grand jury took it as demonstrated, that Hunt was in Dallas the day before the murder: in a motel, meeting his old buddy's Sturgis,Hemmings etc. (Testimony Marita Lorenz) Hunts children (including St. John) rejected to testify in favour of their father.(That he was in Washington on Friday 22 11 63...) H. Hunt was definitely involved in the murder of his president, at last as a kind of legman providing money and escape-routes. KK

3. 12:00 P BUNDY CLD MCNAMARA OK (...sic!) 4. 2:00 P MCCONE CLD AG OK two hours of silence! This is about the time ( minus 1h) from JFKs arrival at Love-field, and his arrival at Parkland...Question: was that because of the break down of Washingtons telefon-net? When exactly did that happen? Thx KK

Impressive pics.Thx.Bernice.----Wasn't it Hoover, who said (in 1968): We had already a revolutionary (JFK)in the White House---we would not survive another one...? --- Since 1963 the "big game" is taboo for a Kennedy...and they know it... KK

One has to be careful: there were two kinds of Secret Service in Dallas on 22.11.63. The Secret Secret which was on the follow up car, and some false SS-men. Maybe the false SS-men where there days prior to the assassination: to mislead Oswald ( to cosy him along) and, without his knowledge, to prepare the scene for the murder... KK

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I would't sent anything regarding the JFK assassination to the 6th floor museum. I would rather throw it into a vulcano! The Ministry of Truth controls information: news, entertainment, education, and the arts. GARY MACK works in the Ministry of Truth branch called 6TH FLOOR MUSEUM (Dallas), "rectifying" historical records regarding the JFK assassination to adjust them with the LONE NUT PRONOUNCEMENTS OF BIG BROTHER... freely adapted from 1984 KK

The whole Powers Story, flight, crash trial imprisonment, was a Shakespeare-play written by guys like Dulles and Bissell. For what reason? To destroy Eisenhowers "crusade for freedom/peace"---and it completely worked out. KK

Nice stuff, Bernice. But I can't see Lyndon. Maybe he was at another party?Another Party

@John Dolva: LOL...i guess you know what happens when you enlarge a pic too much: one can admire the lines of chaos.. KK

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To me this picture shows no empty case,but an intact bullet: I can clearly see the primer, the case, and the bullet at the top... KK

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That is nonsense, Jack. To generate the magnetic-fields needed in part. acc. you need electric current...hight and dangerous enough to produce exact the kind of injury which was observed at M. Shermans arm. KK OF COURSE the magnets are run by electricity! But the output is an extremely brief splitting of an atom, which produces a momentary radiation. The OUTPUT of the machine in no way is electricity. Your toaster uses electricity, but its output is toast, not electricity! If you have information that a particle accelerator can produce electrical burns, please share it. I can find no such information. Jack A particle acc. facility contains an electric circuit, like your Toaster. If there is something wrong with it (damaged isolation, a short etc), you can die when you get in contact with it: whether it is a toaster, or a particle accelerator...but only a part. accelerator FACILITY got enough voltage to burn ones arm and the bone too...(that is what happened to Mary Shermanns arm)... (Shermann very likely was in contact with the electric circuit, not with the particle accelerator-tubular itself...which of course cannot cause the injury in question...it was obviously a murder-trap(like someone would manipulate your toaster in order to kill you), which should look like an accident. Bu it obviously didn't work...thats why they stabbed her in the heart to make sure thats she is dead, put her in her apartment, and disguised it as murder...the cops knew there was something wrong, but never conducted a serious investigation... KK Why is it OBVIOUSLY A MURDER TRAP? There is no evidence of that, just speculative theory. There is really no evidence of a linear particle accelerator...just speculation. Cite some EVIDENCE to be taken seriously. Jack Well, it could have been an industrial accident. Since Sherman was no electrician, the question is: were did she suffer this high voltage injury? Most likely at the particle acc. facility near her working-place. There is one more question: why would somebody kill a severely wounded person, by stubbing her a knife (or something like a knife)in the heart, if there was no prior attempt to kill her in a staged "accident at work". Mary Sherman had to die. And she died the day the WC came to NOLA...where is the connection between Sherman and the Commission that "investigated" the murder of JFK? Ed Haslam and JVB pointed it out... KK

That is nonsense, Jack. To generate the magnetic-fields needed in part. acc. you need electric current...hight and dangerous enough to produce exact the kind of injury which was observed at M. Shermans arm. KK OF COURSE the magnets are run by electricity! But the output is an extremely brief splitting of an atom, which produces a momentary radiation. The OUTPUT of the machine in no way is electricity. Your toaster uses electricity, but its output is toast, not electricity! If you have information that a particle accelerator can produce electrical burns, please share it. I can find no such information. Jack A particle acc. facility contains an electric circuit, like your Toaster. If there is something wrong with it (damaged isolation, a short etc), you can die when you get in contact with it: whether it is a toaster, or a particle accelerator...but only a part. accelerator FACILITY got enough voltage to burn ones arm and the bone too...(that is what happened to Mary Shermanns arm)... (Shermann very likely was in contact with the electric circuit, not with the particle accelerator-tubular itself...which of course cannot cause the injury in question...it was obviously a murder-trap(like someone would manipulate your toaster in order to kill you), which should look like an accident. Bu it obviously didn't work...thats why they stabbed her in the heart to make sure thats she is dead, put her in her apartment, and disguised it as murder...the cops knew there was something wrong, but never conducted a serious investigation... KK

That is nonsense, Jack. To generate the magnetic-fields needed in part. acc. you need electric current...hight and dangerous enough to produce exact the kind of injury which was observed at M. Shermans arm. KK

I take it they were shot when they found Ferrie dead? Kathy C Yes. 2/22/67 I know, that is OT, Steven. But, since you are Ferrie-Expert, may I ask you what is your opinion about his death? Two typed suicide-letters were found...but the coroner said he died of natural causes. Funny thing. Isn't it? Maybe you have already solved that mystery? (The same day Ferries good friend del Valle was brutally killed...coincidence?) KK

Impressive. But, Jack, I can only hope, that you are aware of the fact, that there are different kinds of intelligence...to estimate humans correctly is a kind of intelligence... and that is not a strength of Jack White, I fear. Once upon a time you thought that Gary Mack is a CTer...if I remember right...but it turned out, that you were fooled by Mack. The boss of the "Lone Nut headquarters" in Dallas, is no CTer at alll... as Doug Horne was fooled by Gunn, and Lifton was fooled by Robet Groden, who, in IMO is the greatest mole in the CTer community ever...(which struck me when I read BIG ON LEASH)...Jim Fetzer sometimes IMO is going a bit too fare in his ardent zeal, but he is able to estimate humans, a kind of intelligence which you IMO need more than any other skill in this JFK research business... KK