Steve Thomas

Bill, Here's the time on that cable: 23 hundred hours Zulu time would be 17 hunderd hours (or 5:00 PM) Central time. I don't know what time Stringfellow was supposed to have transmitted his info, but 3:15 PM sounds about right. By the way, Stringfellow and Biggio were working the DPD radio equipment at the Fairgrounds that afternoon. Stringfellow and Biggio were working the police radio at the Fairgrounds on 11/22/63 “Army Apparently didn't tell Commission of Oswald's Alias” Dallas Morning News March 19, 1978 in the Weisberg Collection http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/F%20Disk/FBI/FBI%20Records%20Release%2012-7-77%20News%20Accounts/Item%20069.pdf Steve Thomas

Bill, Did you happen to read the page (p. 216), just before the one you referenced in that CD 329? Marina told FBI Agents Wallace Heitman and Anatole Boguslav that Wilmeth had spent 20 months in Russia. It doesn't say which 20 months, but conceivably, if he retired from the Army in 1960, and started teaching Russian in 1962, it could have been about the same time that Oswald was in Russia too. Steve Thomas

Bill, Thanks. I wondered if you were referencing Peter Dale Scott's address to the Fredonia Conference in 1996. http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/S%20Disk/Scott%20Peter%20Dale/Item%2002.pdf Steve Thomas

Bill, Can you elaborate on this a little? Provide a citation of some kind? As far as Gannaway and Lumpkin go, I think (and this is just my personal opinion) that Gannaway reported to Lumpkin in his Army Intelligence work. In his day job; while Gannaway reported to Curry as Head of the Special Service Bureau, Lumpkin was still a Deputy Chief. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25039-george-lumpkin/?page=2&_fromLogin=1ow “I don't know if this has been discussed, but the link below is to a 1966 Richardson (Texas) Daily News article that describes George Lumpkin as “Commandant of the 4150th ARSU Dallas United States Army Reserve School”. https://newspaperarchive.com/tags/george-lumpkin/?pc=24581&psi=94&pci=7&pt=23960&ob=1/ Department and Agency Codes http://trac.syr.edu/data/fedstaf/agencode.html ARSU U.S. Army Southern Command With respect to George Whitmeyer, Winston Lawson told the HSCA that Whitmeyer "taught army intelligence." So, Lumpkin and Whitmeyer, who both rode in the pilot car, were both Army Intelliegence teachers. Steve Thomas

Jeff, You can find a more thorough discussion of this 12:35 Saturday Interrogation here: Fritz ADDED the part about the photos afterward... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/18440-fritz-added-the-part-about-the-photos-afterward/ By cross-referencing the reports and testimony of the various people involved, I've come to believe that a deliberate attempt was made to go back into the Dallas Police Department's records and alter them in an attempt to hide this 12:35 Interview. What's weird is that I believe that this attempt was made after the Warren Report and it's 26 vols of Exhibits were published. I don't understand what good it would have done at that point. Steve Thomas

John, It would be interesting to learn which one of the three photographs (A, B, or C) were shown to Oswald four hours before they were officially found and brought back to police headquarters. This is from the DPD Archives, Box 1, Folder# 15, Item# 1, paes 8 and 9: http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box1.htm You can also read a copy of Fritz's notes of his interrogation of Oswald that Saturday afternoon in CD 81b, page 460, although these are hard to make out. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10483#relPageId=460&tab=page Michael Paine said he talked to the Dallas Police about Neely St. on Friday evening. See also Thomas Kelley's Report of this 12:35 Interview here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=946#relPageId=652&tab=page Now, Kelley says that the 12:35 Interview mainly consisted of questioning Oswald about where the bulk of his belongings were stored, and he says that immediately after the Interview was terminated at 1:10 PM, officers were dispatched to the Irving residence to conduct a further search. My problem here is that Rose, Stovall and Adamcik say that they were dispatched to Irving at 12:00, and got a search warrant from a judge in Oak Cliff at 12:30. This is even before Oswald was brought back down from jail at 12:35. They arrived at Irving at about 1:00, just about the time Oswald's interview was ending. My hunch is that it was 133-C that was shown to Oswald - the one that stayed hidden for so many years. Steve Thomas

Captain, William Paul “Pat” Gannaway. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/158496812/william-paul-gannaway Birth 3 Feb 1916 Dearh 4 June 2000 (Age 84) Austin, Travis County, Texas, USA Burial Cook-Walden Capital Parks Cemetary and Mausoleum Pflugerville, Travis County, Texas, USA Full text of "Hoch Paul Correspondence" _ ECHOES OF CONSPIRACY " Vol . 10, #2 July 22, 1988 Paul L. Hoch https://archive.org/stream/nsia-HochPaulCorrespondence/nsia-HochPaulCorrespondence/Hoch%20Paul%200952_djvu.txt An article on "Spies in Dallas?" in a Dallas paper in summer 1963 lends support to speculation about active ONI interest, as it does to many ideas about a nexus of DPD, federal, and private intelligence outfits in Oswald's Dallas milieu. Capt. Pat Gannaway of the DPD (and Army Intelligence Reserve) described the work against subversion and espionage of his Special Services Bureau, requiring "the closest cooperation" with other agencies, including the FBI, "military intelligence teams 'from the Army, Navy, and Air Force, and other federal agencies .... Dallas police have been highly successful in recent years in penetrating so-called subversive or radical groups...." Posted Tuesday, February 5, 2013 http://jfkcountercoup2.blogspot.com/2013/02/spies-in-dallas-police-alert.html Spies in Dallas? Police Alert By JERRY RICHMOND Staff Writer “A man would be a fool to say any city in the United States is secure from subversion and espionage.” This statement was made by the man in charge with keeping an eye on activities in Dallas involving espionage, subversion and sabotage for the Dallas Police Department. ‘Sensitive’ Police Captain Pat Gannaway, head of the department’s special services bureau, and a dozen of hand-picked offices under Lieutenant J. R. Revill in the criminal intelligence section of his bureau have been assigned to work with federal and state intelligence officials to guard the Dallas area from penetration by subversives seeking to harm the nation’s security. Within this bureau fall all the things of a sensitive nature, and they…expionage and subversive activities….must be watched at all times,” the veteran police officer and reserve lieutenant colonel in the Army Intelligence corps said. In addition to other country and state agents, the bureau’s work involves close support of Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, military intelligence teams from the Army, Navy and Air Force, and other federal agencies with investigators operating from headquarters here. This combined federal, state and local team has men laced throughout the industrial and strategic points in the city’s life line. The job of the intelligence action in Capt. Ganaway’s bureau, besides keeping check on organized crime, requires the closets cooperation with these other government agencies gathering intelligence on subversive groups and individuals suspected of espionage. Dallas police have been highly successful in recent years in penetrating so-called subversive groups or radical groups which appear likely some day to cause danger to the public. Penetration In many cases undercover agents actually joined these groups to get names, addresses, past activities and future plans or have established networks of informants to acompolish the same result. Private business,, retail credit bureaus, utility companies and even employers often provide invaluable information on suspicious perons who are kept under surveillance for months without their knowledge. With membership in a national police intelligence organization known as LEIU (Law Enforcement Intelligence Unites) the local officers are able to get information almost immediately on suspected subversives when they move into Dallas. This information is exchanged by police units as these persons move from city to city. Captain Gannaway’s men daily face the problem of changing membership in organization under question. He noted the most difficult part of the job is the freedom of movement of known subversives, but added: “That freedom is the dearest thing we have and I would not restrict it even for those who would destroy it.” PLANT SECURTIY Other civilians involved as a group in national security work at the local level are corporation security officers. Floyd Purvis, manger of corporation security for Texas Instruments, pointed out that all plants in the Dallas-Fort Worth area with defense contracts operate under strict Department of Defense security regulations similar to those on military bases. Employees in the plants are carefully screened by security conscious personnel ofificers, and the key jobs are given strict government security clearances. UPGRADING Industry is taking great strides to upgrade security practices. One such group in this aera is the American Society for Industrial Security, an organization in which Mr. Purvis is a local chairman. Such governmental and civilian counter-intelligence activities are selcom publicized until a spy is caught, but local activity by these agencies has placed Dallas and other American cities in the fight against intrigues in a web of espionage. Every citizen has a role in the nation’s security, Capt. Gannaway concluded. Often one small tip from an individual has meant bringing the pieces together for some intelligence agency. August 5, 1963 Posted by Bill Kelly at 6:50 AM Steve Thomas

Jim, Umm... Steve Thomas

David, Just for general info... Hart got her name wrong. Her stage name was Pixie Lynn, not Dixie Lynn. Her real name was Helen K. Smith. Candy Barr was holding for Helen K. Smith when she got busted for marijuana in 1957. Steve Thomas

Tony, I always thought that the Oswald figure was superimposed on a background shot, and whoever did the superimposing (is that a real word?), did a sloppy job. In your reproduction, the slots in the fence and the support posts for the stairs and the shed run pretty much straight up and down at 0 or 360 degree compass heading. In the Oswald picture, the fence slats and support posts have a roughly 50 degree NE compass heading. (Either that, or the contractor who built the shed and fencing needs to get another job.) Steve Thomas

Adrian, I guess your questions would be, Who, What, When, Where, Why and How. I think the only questions that can be definitely answered and What, When, and Where Who did it? Open for Debate. What happened? JFK was shot with a gun. When did it happen? 12:30 on a Friday afternoon in November, 1963. Where did it happen? Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas. Why did it happen? Open for Debate. How did it happen? Open for Debate. I guess a person would just need to take their pick as to what they wanted to tackle first. Steve Thomas

Ron, I believe that this was through the U.S. Agency for International Development's (USAID) Office of Public Safety Program. From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Public_Safety "The Office of Public Safety (OPS) was a U.S. government agency, established in August 1962 by president John F. Kennedy to train police forces of America's allies.[1] It was officially part of USAID (US Agency for International Development), and was close to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).[2] Police-training teams were sent to South Vietnam, Iran, Taiwan, Brazil, Uruguay and Greece.[3] Courses were held in French, Spanish and English.[3] According to a 1973 document revealed in the Family jewels CIA documents, around 700 police officers were trained a year, including in handling of explosives.[4] It was dissolved in 1974." Steve Thomas

Jim, Take heart. We may be on the cusp of a similar historical shift. I was following the election returns on the night of the 2018 mid-term elections, and they were talking about the greatest turnover in American politics since the election of 1974 following Nixon's resignation. As Phillip Agee wrote in his introduction to the Pike Committee Report, If nothing else, in the Committee's Recommendations in Part III, there is this: I mean, that's a good thing, right? *smile* Thanks to everyone for making this available. Steve Thomas

See "OSWALD IN NEW ORLEANS" Church Committee Boxed Files NARA Record Number: 157-10014-10120 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1462&search="Tom_Kane"#relPageId=92&tab=page Pages 92 and 94 Steve Thomas

If Oswald ordered this pistol, I wonder why he felt he needed to lie about his age. If someone else ordered it, they didn't know how old Oswald was. The Hidell signature doesn't look anything like the rifle order Hidell. Steve Thomas

Jim, I know he had a Carousel pass. I don't know if it was on him. From the WC testimony of T.A. Hutson (who was riding in the car with him): http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hutson.htm Mr. HUTSON. We proceeded west on 10th Street to Beckley, and we pulled into the Mobil gas station at Beckley and 10th Street. Mr. BELIN. That is a Mobil gas station? Mr. HUTSON. Yes. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. HUTSON. And Officer Ray Hawkins and Officer Baggett went inside of the Mobil gas station. And I am not positive, but I think they used the telephone to call in. I am not positive, but I believe they gave us a call for us to call. I mean their number to call in. At the time they were in the service station, I heard the dispatcher give a call that the suspect was just seen running across the lawn at the Oak Cliff Branch Library at Marsalis and Jefferson. I reached over and blew the siren on the squad car to attract the officers' attention, Officers Baggett and Hawkins, and they came running out of the service station and jumped in the car,... 1) I don't find any such call on the dispatch tapes - either the Dispatcher calling them, or them responding, or them telling Dispatch that they would be out of the car. 2) Baggett was in the back seat. Why was it necessary for Bagget to go in the gas station with Hawkins? 3) Hawkins was not asked about this call when he testified to the WC, nor did he volunteer any info about the call when he offered a chronology of his actions that day. 4) Baggett didn't testify to the WC, and his after-action report to Curry - DPD Archives Box 2, Folder# 7, Item# 1, and Hawkins' Report (Box 2 Folder# 7, Item# 18) fail to mention anything about this call. http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm 4) I've tried to find a Mobil gas station at 10th and Beckley, looking at all four corners of the intersection using Mapquest, but came up short. My inexperience with using property tax records I guess. Steve Thomas

David, I like this one: TESTIMONY OF MRS. LEE HARVEY OSWALD RESUMED The President's Commission met at 10 a.m. on February 6, 1964 Mr. RANKIN. I offer in evidence Exhibit 135. The CHAIRMAN. It will be admitted. (The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 135, and received in evidence.) Mr. RANKIN. I call the Commission's attention to the fact that this is the coupon under which it appears the rifle was ordered, showing an enclosed $10 notation--"Check for $29.95, A. G. Hidell, age 28, post office box 2915, Dallas, Texas" And it is marked, "One quantity. Point 38 ST. W. 2 inch barrel, 29.95." and underlined is 29.95, and an arrow at that point. Exhibit 135 is an order form for the pistol, not the rifle. CE 773 was the Klein's Order Form for the Rifle CE 788 was the Postal Money Order for the Rifle Marina is not shown either the Hidell Selective Service card or the rifle order form. (Those would have been necessary in order to ask if that was her signature on those forms) Steve Thomas

Here is the translation of CE993, Marina's Narrative of life with Lee: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=610&tab=page I started reading this narrative, and was immediately struck by how similar it is in linguistic style to Oswald's Daily Diary. Read his entry for October 21st, when he attempts "suicide" to the sound of violins playing. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/pdf/WH16_CE_24.pdf Steve Thomas

Tony, Ask Marina where the rifle was when they lived on Neely. If I have this straight, Marina first saw the rifle in February, before it had even been purchased. She first told the FBI that she saw Lee cleaning the rifle in January, but then later told them that she was mistaken and that the cleaning had taken place in March. It was kept out in the open, but maybe he kept it outside. Or maybe he kept it in a disassembled state on a shelf in the closet. She never actually saw him take the rifle away from the apartment and never talks about seeing him bring it back. Lee took the rifle on Sunday, but the shooting wasn't until Wednesday. Where was the rifle in the meantime? She said that Lee had told her her buried the rifle after the shooting. When did he go back and dig it up? When she saw the rifle, it didn't have a scope on it, but knew it had a scope because she recognized it. Steve Thomas

Jim, Until somebody can explain J.D. Tippit's and Ray Hawkins's phone calls, I'm not going to believe anything about anybody. Steve Thomas

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Tony, From the Warren Commission Report, page 298: "Klause then arranged the halftone front and profile representations of President Kennedy at the top of the textual material he had received from Surrey so as to simulate a "man wanted" police placard. He then made a photographic printing plate of the picture. During the night, he and his wife surreptitiously printed approximately 5,000 copies on Lettercraft Printing Co. offset printing equipment without the knowledge of his employers. The next day he arranged with Surrey a meeting place, and delivered the handbills. Klause's charge for the printing of the handbills was, including expenses, $60." Steve Thomas

John, I think one of the four men behind Toni Foster (#'s 4, 5, 6, and 7) is her husband, but I can't tell which one. She had come out from behind a wall and was running towards Elm St. She ran out ahead of him trying to get a glimpse of JFK, and then worried later that he might be in the line of fire. http://jfklancer.com/pdf/toni.pdf Steve Thomas

Paul, For sure, George Lumpkin was one. Go back to the Revolt of the Colonels thread: Headquarters Department of the Army 26 July 1967 General Orders No. 33 https://www.apd.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/go6733.pdf Page 5 (Go to: Publications, Army General Orders, Pub/Form Number DAGO 1967-33, Click download.) V. Legion of Merit. By direction of the President...for exceptionally meritorious conduct in the performance of outstanding service is awarded to... Colonel George L. Lumpkin. Intelligence and Security, United States Army, July, 1960 – June, 1967 https://newspaperarchive.com/tags/george-lumpkin/?pc=24581&psi=94&pci=7&pt=23960&ob=1/ There was a real 488th MID, but aside from Brandstetter's books, and Crichton's oral history interview, has anyone ever seen a piece of paper, a file, a document, a budget request, expenditure report, personnel roster, monthly fitness report, requisition for toilet paper with Crichton's 488th name on it? Which part of the U.S. Army's organizational structure did it belong to? You ask anybody who's ever served in the military; there's a chain of command (and God forbid you ever go outside of it :-)). In his HSCA testimony, Robert E. Jones said, "I directed the operations for seven regions and reported through my Group Commander, to the Security Division of Fourth Army, Deputy Chief of Staff, Intelligence". Who was Crichton's Group Commander? Steve Thomas

Larry, I've come to believe that, for whatever reason, the Cuban exile situation in Dallas was simply just not on the radar of the DPD's Criminal Intelligence Division. I've looked at this memo we are discussing and the fact that I believe, with two exceptions; none of the people who were on the list of TSBD employees were in the DPD Intelligence files - including Oswald. That is also the reason I don't believe that Crichton's 100 men in the 488th included members of the DPD. However, there were members of the DPD who were in military intelligence, and why they didn't share their knowledge with the Dallas's CID is something I can't explain. Steve Thomas