David G. Healy

You've always been a scholar and gentleman, Mark. And, you and the mod's are running good ship here... your patience is obvious. I'm a bomb thrower with enough image effects composition experience to be dangerous and enough film/video industry (Hollywood) resource knowledge to be... Answer the challenge: was the technolgy, resources, talent pool, know how and time available in 1963-64 to alter the in-camera original Zapruder film? Of course there was. And for those inclined:a real year 2000 question is, how many times was it altered since 1964 to present... the Z-film is a perfect canard, why, to take away from case medical evidence... Take care, Mark... seeya' round the hood... p.s. even I don't agree with my comments and conclusions all the time...

correct, Ron... take care, bud!

"he was a urologist".... lmfao!

Yes the old days, quite moving concern, this place. In fact, I was warned of my upcoming expulsion from the Ed Forum, 3 times... I will be signing off from the forum at the end of this week... who'd of thought in 2004 that I'd be one of the last old-timers here in nearly 2023... and if Len Colby showed here again, I'd take him to task anew.... of course there were disinfo agents hereabouts, image shifter I liked to call them back then -- and .john mcmadman had entire university classroom(s) full of them... fighting with the best of them, the 'LHO did it all by his lonesome' bunch... mod's insisting we have a clean discussion of the facts, like we were going to determine where the next JFK investigation was going, and an obvious conclusion.... and there hasn't been one person join this forum without a pre-determine assassination conclusion in their mind... so "keep an open mind" is pure BS.... Present and future authors bounced book ideas off this forum membership, some good stuff, some trash the result over the years.... But always someone had some concept to sell, most of it nonsense... Glad I witnessed it... it's no-wonder fascism has poked its nose out....the unknown history of JFK assassination investigation: a waiting game, the au contraire crowd will die the WCR truth will stand... the best I have seen over the years regarding assassination evidence is: Oliver Stone/Jim DiEugenio latest -- the Doug Horne's Series -- And a guy that still posts to alt.conspiracy.jfk, one Ben Holmes who keeps every single .john mcmadam acolyte toes to the flames... using Mark Lanes Rush to Judgement, Holmes has been devastating when it comes to debate concerning JFK assassination case evidence. Not one lone nutter has had success against Holmes including .John who was needless to say outmanned in debating Holmes....... So I bid you adieu, go in peace, but don't go silently... and Pat, I got here April 2004 (an invite from John Simkin (not Andy - we didn't get along), after Rich DellaRosa's JFK assassination research website shut down, at which I was the film/photo site moderator -- which, by-the-way spawned many other photo assassination archives) David Healy -- 11-29-2022

"I agree, Tom, that there are two sides to the story, and that one should not be too confident in either of them. The thought occurs that some film-maker could (and should) redo 12 Angry Men, and make it about the Tippit case..." That's your watermark, Pat perfect project for HULA... followed by a 10 week, 30:00 minute recap each week of various show scenes discussed by a panel of researchers, at the end of the 10 week review another rendition of the documentary is screened of "how post assassination JFK researchers see the evidence fits the case (with some input from the viewing public). So you got two docu's before and after. You a writer, Jim D. a writer/historian sounds like a good start -- toss in one of America's best documentarian/writer/producer/director and team sitting on the sidelines with a ton of advice (paid or unpaid).... it's all in the script, baby.... only today could this happen...

lmao... why respond to anything/anyone trying to push the validity of a Saturday Morning Cartoon? -Or,- trying to make hay out of a tragic, albeit cop's 11/22/63 murder on the streets of Dallas...? And "It should be noted," 21,557 day's have passed since the Kennedy Assassination and right-wing whack jobs STILL can't prove LHO did it all by his lonesome... Get-a-grip!

7 frames ... I think that came from Pat's comment that I picked up on... Its a *key frame* point reference (to check if layers are lining up when and where you want them to be at the proper time. A reference point location for the computer to shoot to. A great software package to see frame-interpolation on display is Adobe After Effects, especially doing titles and object motion keyed overlays. I used the program for years, starting back when it was called COSA After Effects. There is no set number or frames required however shorter durations preferred. I've composed projects that ran 60 seconds only, had 20 layers with moves being made in all layers at the same time. You set the starting point (key frame) for a layer, and where you want its end point (another keyframe). Re how long the move takes? The computer determines how many frames based on the video/film projects output, ie., film 24fps total length :30sec -- NTSC video 30fps/29.98fps-DF total length. With computer horsepower, good software, great artwork and a talented editor, sky is the limit... also, rendering time at a minimum - especially with todays rigs.... All these computer/software goodies mimmic the old film optical film printing techniques -- in fact many New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Hollywood, etal printing houses were virtually ran out of business because of After Effects type software and computer technology... I'm sure within the company your keeping at the moment they can fill in the blanks... Wish you the best buddy, I will be checking out from this forum soon -- in your travels tell Lt. Stone (I beat him there), glad he got out of Vietnam alive and welcome back to the world its a better place because of folks like Oliver and you... Please... DGHealy MAAG-Vietnam/MACV 1963-64 11th Air Assault Div. 1964-65 - 1st Cavalry Div 1965 - Guess where?

Helo Pat -- that technique is called 'interpolation' (let the computer "an estimation" how it gets from this point to that point. Hanna-Barbera animators had to figure that out themselves, usually the smoothest timing of a move did the trick and of course what looked good, frame by frame and consistent, that's why every 7 frames...... It would be nice to see the Lightwave project files wouldn't it? That why Lighwave was used, it would interpolate from keyframe to keyframe, its *built into the software... And, you will also notice JFK had very little animating characteristics (self-generated body movement) in the alleged 28 second Zapruder film in-camera original clip. Some would consider old Dale altered the z-film, massively, right in front of Gawd and everyone, even Peter Jennings and the entire ABC viewing audience... and JFK researchers of every stripe -- to boot... Long live the SBT, eh?

Doubt that he made any models, although he may have AFTER the fact... Best to remember at that particular time only Hollyweird and NASA had proprietary 3D software (optical special effects) and computers with the *umf* to run'em. For NASA (Ames Institute, Mountain View Ca.) UNIX operating system-work stations running UNIX proprietary code with CRAY support (same type of kernel that Apple OSX sits on today).. Kinda the same situ for DP "topo" survey(s), I recall 2 surveys that were tempted in the 90's, but what would they prove, other than endless argument? Finding accurate plat's of the day 1963 proved very difficult, even for a specific researcher that educated this board for years and knew, KNEW the gent who created the latter day, official, DP plats... Which leaves what? Yes, the Z-film... some believe a 3D simulation of 2D Z-film frame fabrication became the basis of the cartoon --frame by frame! To the best of my knowledge no one has ever seen those Lightwave project files. I wonder why?

Actually when Myers Z-film cartoon was released I made a direct request to Myers personally that he provide the Lightwave files he used (and version of the software) to produce his cartoon to other Dealey Plaza assassination related event researchers. At that time, I was familiar with New-Tek's Lightwave 3d/2d software application... (Lightwave: Released in 1992 (?), Lightwave (up to this day) has been used commercially in films, television, motion graphics, digital matte painting, visual effects, video game development, product design, architectural visualizations, virtual production, music videos, previsualizations and advertising.) --Wikipedia (emphasis mine) The dude never spoke to me again -- it was around that same time a bit of noise was being made about him and the Tippit family discussing a project (?). Myers went on to win an EMMY for his Z-film cartoon, at that same time a nickname for Myers burst forth: Dale *wanna see my EMMY* Myers... I swear it wasn't me.... I always wondered why a small market graphic artist jumped on the Tippit bandwagon, despite his wrong-place/wrong-time(?) tragic ending. One could conceive Myers was looking to change the subject to anything other than sharing Z-film software/data with a few that knew what he created and had theories as well as how-to's at the time.... I don't think Myers would of pulled it off without help and support from Peter Jennings who had his name all over the documentary... So, what do you do with a guy that whines during a 2003 ABC television broadcast, that the Single Bullet Theory was "a Single Bullet Fact?... arrivederci

I don't get out much anymore, Jim... are you having a presentation in Dallas recorded, the one with Henry Lee? If so, can you provide a link here when/if appropriate? Thanks --David

kudos... great job...

Appears John updated his article in 2020

LIFE toots, just life (for the moment)...

hardly son, don't tell me you forget Two-scoops 'winning' comment of yore?

the only think that matters is this: the GQP never tires of WINNING ... ROTFLMFAO and, keep those posts to the grindstone... Putin's commies on this side of the pond should think of their political vunerability... is 'elected' housecleaning about to start?

Here's an interesting viewpoint to 'fact' definition: Putin is a RED Communist (always was, is, and will be) pining to bring back near recent USSR history, TOMORROW will do. Some strained thinking americano media and certain wannabe kings, their psychophants (sp. intended) and stockholders want a seat at that world reshaping table... Now, FACTS being what they are, commies and fascists have a near history reality of getting their collective (pardo-the-pun) arses kicked... Putin is experiencing that reality presently and, US reich-wingers got a taste of THAT "so much victory" a few days ago... The point: Democracy is a damn good idea, get use to it... my opinion lines up pretty good with "fact."

Moffett Field, Mountain View (right next to Palo Alto westside of the SFBay...

the '65 SF music scene, be remiss in not crediting or indicting (lmao) Owlsey Stanley (the bear) thee producer and "KING" of cheap and very good LSD... dude produced nearly a million hits of acid in his day all the while producing and engineering the Grateful Dead, for years. John Cippolina and Quicksilver also comes to mind, one of San Francisco's 1st FOLK/pshychedelic rock groups -- they played with and next to everyone that became anyone in rock music (including Big Brother, the Airplane, Fleetwood (before going commercial), etal... . And when things got testy in the City for anyone group, you could find the Charlatans and Cippolina at the RedDog Saloon in Virginia City Nv., right outside Reno -- and that was just the beginning... Punk and Rap genre followed, those earlybirds created the roadmap... And, I might add in the early days there was just as much peyote used as acid, I think, I really can't remember...

In two years no one in the GOP will admit they voted for the Orange Plum-bob... And, rumor has it, Mike Pence is putting out feelers for donating his military prowess to the Russian invading forces in Ukraine -- Vlad, it is rumored has suggested Pence stay home and minister to Mother, what-a-guy!

we've been fixated with the commies of Russia/USSR since 1945, along with: the Chinese-commies in the 50's, the Southeast asian commies in the 60-70's... the middle east fascism w/commie undertones the 80's to present, plus ad hoc commie wannabe's throughout South/Central America and throughout Africa.

It appears the rollickin'-right at the Ed-forum is outing itself. Jumping the gun, Laddies?

MG wrote: "... The problem is that so many of my fellow conspiracy theorists have created this huge myth that JFK was killed because he was going to abandon South Vietnam no matter what." (emphasis mine) Your pronouncement, a bit over the top, yes? Abandon? It doesn't require a rocket scientist to determine what was going to happen when the The Big Green Machine arrived at that southeast asian paradise in 1965... I suspect JFK knew exactly what was going to happen if the Green Machine got serious boots on the ground and Curtis LeMay buzzing around Hanoi and other spots... some early military advisors to the ARVN might say, JFK was murdered (has a truer ring to it) because he, JFK would not give the general's the war they wanted? Facts being what they are and all....

First off Sandy this will never be "settled" here's why: no one can verify the authenticity of the alleged in-camera Zapruder film (stored at either NARA of the 6th floor mausoleum). The best Roland Zavada and his quest for saving the Z-film as a piece of case evidence was, he confirmed the film was indeed Double 8mm KODAK film, that's it, PERIOD. Rollie had little or no knowledge concerning optical film effects, he told that to me during a phone call prior to a SMPTE meeting at Lake Tahoe. Altering the "content" of the Z-film in-camera original? The best I can say is: many, many alterations to specific frames (at Life Magazine occurred for publication) and, any multi frame motion segments of the film needed to accomplished by the end of February 1964 (when the WC met in full and discussed said the film and other related evidence). Thats around 90 days... To add insult to injury, because of continued non-verification and authentication of the alleged in-camera Z-film it could and possibly has been altered multiple times since 1964 -- with the advent of computers and the demise of optical film printing the last 30 years... the art and black magic of film printing is dead....... I discussed this subject with Gary Mack in early 2000's and his final comment to me was revealing: "Who cares? The Zapruder film will never, EVER see the inside of a courtroom anyway!" And, it hasn't since Jim Garrison/New Orleans... To accomplish and legit study of the issue here's what you need: 1. authenticated and validated 11-22-63 copy of the in-camera original Z-film (LIFE's copy); 2. the actual Z-film the Warren Commission screened late Feb 1964 (not a copy the actual 8mm film they viewed during that meeting.... My take? If the Zapruder in-camera original film isn't sitting in the bottom of a Dallas landfill, I'd be shocked...

theNix in-camera original has gone poof (per the Nix family). What is the "other" film of which you speak?