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Ghislaine Maxwell will benefit by Epstein's death. No doubt about that. He can never again reveal anything he knows about her and her father. Maxwell's father Robert Maxwell and his shady money and extreme covert political dealings is probably one of the biggest and potentially most damaging can of worms in this sordid sexual saga.

I wonder if the former inmate quoted earlier could do even a rough sketch of the inside of those cells? Soon enough, the press and the public are going to "demand" to see the insides of these cells.

When the Dallas PD on November 24th, 1963 failed in Lee Harvey's security in the absolute worst case scenario way ( his murder right in their own building) 10's of millions here in the states and around the world instantly felt something was very wrong with that picture, seriously wrong. Ruby's murder of Oswald right inside the jail building created a sense of suspicion and mistrust that was actually greater than the mistrust just from JFK's assassination by itself. I think Epstein's questionable suicide this morning will do the same thing regards the entire Epstein story and those who had anything to with Epstein socially during his reign of sexual assault and manipulation of under age girls. Not to mention all the secret and shady business dealings and massive fund transfers he was involved with as well.

Surprised the media hasn't been able to dig out some photos of those cells from somewhere. Seems to me they would even pay someone ( an insider ) to take a picture of one similar and smuggle this to them. If the former inmate who is quoted earlier in this thread is right about the actual physical layout and design of the cell Epstein was in, it sounds extremely hard to hang yourself in one of these.

A check every 15 minutes might have been enough time to catch this before he actually died. I heard on the Joy Reed show today a journalist say that Bill Cosby was under this check every 15 minutes for a time. Sounds though that Epstein hadn't been checked on for a much longer period of time than 15 minutes.

Didn't the "DC MADAM" Deborah Jeanne Palfrey hang herself also? In 2008 I believe. Another criminal suspect that had massive dirt on very powerful people. In early 2007, Palfrey learned of the death, apparently through suicide by hanging, of Brandi Britton, one of her former escort service employees.[11] Palfrey reacted to this news by saying, "I guess I'm made of something that Brandy Britton wasn't made of." According to her former attorney, Montgomery Blair Sibley, she even took the extraordinary step of writing directly to the prosecutor, promising to show more resolve than Britton.[28] Journalist Dan Moldea, who was working with Palfrey on a book, recalled that in a 2007 conversation, Palfrey told him, "I am not going back to prison. I will commit suicide first."[20] He said her previous prison experience had traumatized her and she felt she couldn't do it again.[1][11]

Below is a link to a nationally reported article that already mentions how this event will feed and work the conspiracy nuts into a frenzy. This has come out mere hours after the Epstein suicide story broke! Besides the derogatory title this article actually does mention this conspiracy nut view with at least some balance in saying the Epstein story can't help but draw some logical scrutiny beyond that of most jail suicides. But, my life experience has shown that 90% of people who come across news story articles never read the articles. They see the title and keep that in their heads. It's like the National Enquirer which most all people who go to grocery stores see on the check out line racks with big lettered news story titles but never buy and read. These bright red bold lettered sensational news story titles do grab them enough to read and even stay in too many people's minds as more truthful than not. It's a very effective brainwashing tool. This article clearly uses the conspiracy nut case angle in it's title as a capturing device with a very negative slant toward those who might feel the Epstein suicide wasn't just a simple suicide. Jeffrey Epstein's death is a perfect storm for conspiracy theories https://news.yahoo.com/jeffrey-epstein-death-conspiracy-theories-163046929.html 3 hours ago - The death Saturday morning of financier Jeffrey Epstein, an accused sex trafficker with connections to some of the most powerful people in the world, represents a perfect storm in the world of conspiracy theories. Epstein was found unconscious in his cell in the Metropolitan ... Missing: article ‎| Must include: article

Yes, will have to see if this is just a rumor.

Robin Williams hung himself from a door knob with a belt. Guess someone could do this by tying a sheet or pajamas around a sink faucet head just 3 feet off the ground? A toilet flushing handle would be even lower. Would like to see a picture of the inside of Epstein's jail cell. What did Epstein use to hang himself? What did he tie this to? Here we go again with an event that will elicit a media storm of claims that the "conspiracy nuts" will go manic and have a field day with this. Yet, isn't it reasonable to at least contemplate and "consider" more to this story than a simple depressed guy suicide, considering Epstein's previous suicide attempt just two weeks previous (July 24th?) which should have called for more serious suicide watch protocols than someone just talking about suicide and including cameras and a longer than one week or so trial of this? Plus the fact that Epstein's crimes and activities if revealed in all their entirety could truly, very well have brought down so many highest level power people that may have participated in these crimes to any degree, both here and abroad? Epstein was one of the most important and threatening to others criminals in the last 30 years in this regards. These "threatened others" people must be relieved to some degree. I am not sure in what ways Epstein's death helps these people but it has to help some. Epstein's personal under oath testimony would have been the most important, powerful and devastating of any incriminating evidence against these people. Imagine if Epstein had cracked at some point and told everything he knew? Something that far reaching scandalous would have an effect even on the 2020 Presidential election. Just the fact that Trump had anything to do with Epstein socially for years up until the early 2,000's ( and is on public record saying what a terrific guy he was) could not have gained him votes, only taken some away.

Where did you read or see this John? If true, you've got to be kidding me.

Did someone "let him commit suicide?" Was Epstein taken off suicide watch? If so who made this decision and why? Because so many highest political and business level persons had so much to lose by Epstein's possible future cooperation you can't pretend there isn't reason to suspect this incident more than most other suicides in jail.

Similar incongruous circumstances obvious.

Was this an edited transcript of Garrison's comments in the interview? Or was this a straight recording transcript of Garrison's own words exactly as he spoke them? Either way, the man is simply an eloquent speaker with an extremely well read and interestingly expressed grasp of history, literature, even philosophy. Garrison's July 15th, 1967 NBC rebuttal presentation on national TV was equally eloquent. I believe JFK and Garrison shared this fine mind eloquence trait on a similar level and with the same common good guided moral compass. I wonder what it would have been like to have Jim Garrison as our president.

Is there, or was there ever, any even halfway credible corroboration as to the validity of Sheeran's enemy soldier killing claims during Sheeran's time in combat in Europe during WW II? You would think that someone who served alongside Sheeran at any time may have actually seen Sheeran personally killing enemy soldiers at least a few times since Sheeran claims to have killed so many. Did Brandt ever try to find someone in Sheeran's military combat service time who could have verified his numerous killing claims, even if to a lesser degree but still some? I feel this is an important point in determining Sheeran's credibility in his later claims of kills in his older adult life. If Sheeran killed as many enemy combatants in WWII as he claimed and in cold blooded, point blank shots to the head or body manner, it would lend some believability imo, to his explanation of his conditioned propensity for and openness to accepting killing assignments in civilian life. I grew up with a parental generation that included active participants in WWII battle combat. One of my parent's best friends was a fellow who landed at Normandy and who saw live combat in the weeks that followed. He was just an enlisted man grade infantry soldier but he fired and faced real bullets and even captured a few German soldiers. Apparently he killed a few also. You would not think of this humble, honest, easy going, working class loyal family man as someone who murdered others in his young adult life. Yet, he did. If Sheeran's ruthless and even bragged about war killing record is verifiably true, It would be logically difficult "not" to believe that Sheeran would be the type of person who could kill others on orders from high level organized criminal big shots in his later adult civilian life and to do so without the normal hesitation and guilt that most others would feel. Sheeran definitely seemed as hard ass tough as other well known mob muscle men at that time such as David Yaras and Barney Baker who were also connected to Jimmy Hoffa. Heck, even little funky strip joint owning Jack Ruby was willing to "hit" someone, even in broad daylight and surrounded by dozens of armed police and right in their own building! PDF] WHO WAS JACK RUBY ? jfk.hood.edu/Collection/.../K%20Disk/Kantor%20Seth/Item%2006.pdf Seth Kantor, who recently joined the ... Information Act, Kantor began to look for the answers to the Jack ... Robert "Barney" Baker was paroled from Sandstone ... Could Frank Sheeran have killed 25 or more people without hardly anyone but a very, very small and select group of individuals knowing of these deeds? Of course. Whoever blasted multiple bullet rounds into Sam Giancana's head and mouth right inside Giancanna's own home, whoever cut up Johnny Roselli and sent him on a sea ride, whoever murdered Dorothy Kilgallen, or Henry Marshall and countless others, these killers were never identified and if anyone knew who they really were, they never came forward and told the authorities and mass media who they were. Sheeran's true civilian killing record could have easily been kept under wraps based on these other true realities of killers and their never being identified. What would be a shame would be Sheeran's making up the parts of his story which concern interactions with known suspects in the JFK assassination. I wonder how Scorsese will handle this part of Sheeran's death bed confession as related by author Charles Brandt?

Thank you for the above post W. Niederhut.

A Mannlicher Carcano would be laughed at today.

The Warren Commission testimony of "Jeanne De Mohrenschildt" is a very interesting and deeper revealing take on Marina Oswald during Marina's time in Dallas and Fort Worth. You get a quite critical and blunt yet still sympathetic personal view and interaction account of Marina through De Morhenschildt's eyes of their time together. In the testimonial statement by Marina posted above you don't get many of the more very personal and critical aspects of Lee and Marina's relationship. Such as how much Marina nagged at Lee and how much she was wanting a lot more sex than she was getting from Lee. Marina more than once referred to Lee as "this crazy one" such as when she had to explain to Jeanne De Mohrenschildt about Lee's rifle being visible when she and Jeanne looked into a small closet upon the De Mohrenschildt's visiting their new upstairs apartment for the first time. I believe Marina may have had an innocent young woman love for Lee in Russia. But in the time they lived in the states here she fell out of love with him much more than she expresses in her testimony above. He was "crazy", he was dour and anti-social, he was overly controlling, he could blow his stack over trivial reasons and would occasionally knock her around, he didn't make enough money or keep a job to provide more than the bare necessities for Marina and their babies and he didn't meet her sexual craving needs. What's left?

Sometimes these right wing endorsements are purposely put out there for disingenuous confusion and doubt creating agenda reasons. I remember when Rush Limbaugh once aggressively pushed a campaign of telling his Republican listeners to crossover and vote in the democratic presidential primaries to throw them in confusing disarray. So many of Limbaugh's followers did so it actually caused some serious confusion and integrity damage. The uproar that followed against Limbaugh for doing this forced him to go into frantic public statement issuing damage control mode where he meekly defended his campaign of Democratic voting disruption by claiming it was all just a funny joke born out of his self-described status as more of a comedic radio personality entertainer versus a right wing paid political propagandist. I think he might even have suggested that he didn't think his listening base would be so dumb as to take his Democratic voter disruption suggestion as seriously as they did. Excuse my main topic diversion post but my point is you can't always take these right wing political endorsements as honest ones.

Steve, I just read these three TV truck technician's Warren Commission testimonies regarding their commonly shared belief that the man they saw near their truck the morning of 11,24,1963 was Jack Ruby. There are discrepancies between their accounts such as the time frames of their sightings. And of course they saw the man in question from different view points and distances. However, they all seemed to share about the same concluding confidence in their belief that the face they saw that morning was Jack Ruby based on pictures or newsreels they saw of Ruby soon after Ruby shot Oswald. Their shared descriptions of the Ruby look-alike man's clothing attire and his slightly unkempt appearance do contradict what was generally known about Ruby's typical way of dress and grooming. I can understand their Ruby ID testimonies being considered with at least some doubt based on these contradictions. Julia Ann Mercer stated she identified Jack Ruby as the driver of a green plumbing truck pulled up on the end of the Elm Street / Dealey Plaza sidewalk the late morning of 11,22,1963, causing her to have to stop and slowly pass the truck just 1 and 1/2 hours before JFK was killed mere yards from there. She claimed she identified the man she saw behind the drivers wheel of this truck as Jack Ruby after being shown photos of different men by her FBI interrogators and picking out Ruby's face among them. The two TV truck technicians on Commerce Street the morning of 11,24,1963 testified under oath they saw the Ruby look-alike man's face and saw this even closer than Julia Ann Mercer's stated distance. But these two TV truck technicians had another aspect in their up close physical encounter beyond just visual. They exchanged words. They heard their look-alike man speak, directly to them. I was surprised the Warren Commission questioner didn't pursue this added encounter dynamic with the technicians. A simple logical question you would expect from the questioner to the technicians would be something like..."you heard this man's voice. Have you at anytime after your encounter and before your testimony today had the chance to hear any recorded tape of Jack Ruby himself speaking to the press?" And if you have, could you in anyway tell if the voice you heard in your personal encounter with the man on Commerce Street was the same or even similar as the speaking voice of Jack Ruby you may have heard later through TV or radio reports? And this would include a certain way of speaking such as inflections, loudness, accent ( Texan? ) or no accent, movement of mouth, etc. The added personal encounter act of speaking directly to someone and being spoken to ( and only a couple of feet apart ) adds a very important credibility dynamic in a person's identification determination claims in a comparative sense...imo. These TV truck technicians spoke face to face with their Ruby look-alike person just as Seth Kantor claimed he did the afternoon of 11,22,1963 at Parkland hospital. Curious whether the two technicians ever tried to compare their auditory memories of their encounter with the Commerce street man to later videos of Jack Ruby interviews which they almost certainly came across in their lives after their initial Ruby look-alike encounter?

An Oliver Stone JFK type all star cast and huge $200 million dollar production budget and it's only scheduled for limited national theater release? That's a production budget amount of some of these wide release comic super hero films! And much of that is for CGI. Since a real life based organized crime film would probably not use much of that technology one can only guess that the bulk of The Irishman's big budget is for salaries of the well known top tier A-list actors, producers and director? Hope the JFK assassination references in the book aren't significantly watered down and/or cut because Sheeran's story really does includes many of these and which involve real main characters in the JFK event story. If the film goes mainly Netflix I hope it's viewership isn't too limited.

Seth Kantor accessed September through November 1963 phone records of Jack Ruby through the FOIA. He cites these in his 1978 book "Who Was Jack Ruby?" Kantor writes that Jack Ruby called men very similar to Frank Sheeran in high organized crime level hit man stature and close to top Mafia figures like Sam Giancanna and Carlos Marcello and including Jimmy Hoffa. Men like David Yaras, Barney Baker, Nofio Pecora, etc. Does anyone really believe these calls to these hit men had to do with Ruby's cat fight problems with his hot headed feature stripper "Jada" aka Janet Conforto?

Why have these two witnesses ( Smith and Walker) received so little mention in the larger research body context? They gave FBI statements so their eye witness accounts are part of the public record. Were they and their accounts discredited? If so, how? Did the Warren Commission not know of these two and their recorded statements? I just accessed the relevant Mary Ferrell pages referring to three 3 television truck technicians and their Ruby sighting accounts early in the morning of 11,24,1963 as described in the commission records. Like the commission's dismissal of Seth Kantor's stated account of personally meeting and talking to Jack Ruby at Parkland hospital the early afternoon of 11,22,1963 ... they similarly dismiss these men's accounts of seeing Jack Ruby as mistaken identity.

Slightly odd coincidence with Tex Watson, Sharon Tate and Dallas, Texas. Sharon Tate was born in 1943 ... in Dallas, Texas. Tex Watson was born in 1945 ... in Dallas, Texas.

I feel for Ronald Reagan's daughter Patty. I have always respected her. She was much more inclined towards and promoting of liberal causes and values and publicly stating and defending these for many years even while her father and her mother were alive and promoting the opposite. Same with Patty's brother Ron Reagan Jr. I can imagine it is a tough decision to take such contrary stands and views opposite of your blood father and mother, especially when they are world wide famous and your public disagreements with them are looked upon as treacherously disloyal by millions of Americans who looked upon her father as a political icon savior. Patty and Ron took this courageous stand and the heavy criticism that came with it for many years. And perhaps still are? So, now that Reagan's private conversations laced with the most graphic and insulting racial comments against African blacks are revealed ( monkeys who are still getting used to shoes ) Patty's immediate public reaction is to refute and condemn them, but she also feels a duty to defend her father as much as possible and point out his other race related actions and words that were not graphically racist as those in this Nixon/ Reagan conversation. Patty has paid her moral conscious dues. She stood against even her father and mother for decades in defending her strong liberal views versus their right wing ones. She finally and totally deserves to share some of the good she knew and loved about her father at this later year point in her life and well after their deaths ... imo.

Steve, I just saw that the distance between Fort Worth and Dallas is 32 miles. I now see that this distance is significant enough to explain why Ruby didn't drive to personally give Little Lynn any funds at her apartment.