Michael Clark

They both scare me too. But Trump carries the inertia of a lot of fanatic people who are outside of the mainstream party system. Pence is within the system, caged if you will. Trump is unstable, unenlightened, narcissistic, devoid of imagination, and absolutely unable to accept fault, blame or failings. That makes him, IMO, by far, more dangerous. Cheers, Michael

Paul, Thanks for your polite and well-considered offering. Regarding fake news. I am kind of thinking that fake news has its greatest affect in a radicalized, polarized environment. I am thinking a centrist candidate will have some immunity to that, and would bring some measure of desperately-needed calm, unity and communication. And... I do not recall the fake Sanders/BLM bonafides. I can clearly imagine it however. Regards, Michael

Well, as it turns out, Flynn will go down in history as having played a large role in taking down Trump. So I guess you are questioning the part about somebody having set this up, knowingly. Well, we know there were people that knew of the danger Flynn posed, including Sally Yates. Why would others be unable to come to the same conclusion? Obama forced Flynn to resign, after all. I knew he was bad news for anybody. How could that be lost on anyone in Trump's inner circle? Trumps a stupid tool, but you can't say that about his entire circle. Kirk, you still have me crammed into the wrong hole and it's uncomfortable. I know you are aware of my aversion to dyanastic power, because you have previously mocked-it. What you are probably unclear about, because your eyes are still red and watery, is that a person in Trump's position, non-aligned, non-establishment, afforded a great opportunity to buck the trends of the last 50 years. It's too bad that that opportunity came in the form of a Trump, and with his baggage.

I had an opportunity to fix 21 links with one bump, so I did it. http://spartacus-educational.com/USAgrantU.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAbabcock.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAbelknap.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAtweed.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAcroker.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcorcoran.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/JFKbakerB.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAnast.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAparkhurstC.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAlowS.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Jsteffens.htm (presumed. Above link showed J. Steffens) http://spartacus-educational.com/Jtarbell.htm (presumed. IDA Tarbell) http://spartacus-educational.com/FWWwells.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/USAnyeG.htm John Simkin wrote: "It is true I have not posted much on the Forum about the KGB or Stalinism. After all, unlike George Bush and the CIA I do not consider them a serious threat to my liberty. However, I have written a lot about them on my website. For example, see the following:" http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSnkvd.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSstalin.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/RUSpurge.htm "These two index pages will take you to the other pages on the evils of communism." http://spartacus-educational.com/ColdWar.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Russian-Revolution.htm http://spartacus-educational.com/Russia.htm

Paul, Ostensibly, LHO was trying to get a Transit Visa to Russia, via Cuba. He would have needed a Russian Visa to get the Transit Visa. So, assuming he actually wanted to accomplish the task of obtaining a Transit Visa in order to get to Russia, or if he planned to stay in Cuba, there was no "fake-out"; getting the Russian Visa was a necessary step to undertake prior to getting the Cuban Transit Visa. Asssuming he was in MC, the whole charade may have been "a fake-out". But even in that case, the Russian Embassy visit would have been no more a "fake-out" than the Cuban Conulate visit. You consistently omit the Transit Visa aspect, presumably because it interferes with your theory that LHO was trying to smuggle his rifle into Cuba to assassinate Castro. Cheers, Michael

The above link to Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal is broken. It can be found here: http://www.whale.to/b/torbitt.html

The comment "we both know who is responsible" suggests that they have a best guess. That is the point of making the call. It is "evidence", albeit planted evidence, that they did not have intimate, actual, factual, first-hand knowledge. An actual perp would never say that. So, yes, I am saying that the admission that they "both know who is responsible" is a clever cover; it's fake, manufactured "evidence" that they didn't know first hand and were not involved. This has always been my take upon reading that testimony. Cheers, Michael Edit*****'Jeff Cater's later post explains, I believe, that their is no testimony of the call. I guess I based my "take" on the rumors and later accounts of the call that he references.

Adding a couple related threads...

Thanks Len.

Paul, I agree that Comey's hand may have been forced, perhaps by the situation itself. He very likely was between Scylla and Charybdis. What was the DAP quote as related by Antonio Veciana? Was it that in order to get Kennedy to act, you had to put "his back up against the wall". It may be an art that has been mastered. My Spidey-Sense says there are script writers afoot. Regarding Pence being re-elected: That completely depends on who the Democrats send into the election. The Democrats have to go with a moderate to win-over moderate Trump supporters. You can get another 1 million democratic voters out in NY, and it won't make a difference in the Electoral College. You have to bring-in and send-out Democratic voters in swing-states; a Bernie Sanders is not going to do that. Cheers, Michael

Paul, I am on the fence about that right now. My instincts tell me that you are right. However, as,a matter of course, as an excercise, I hypothetically make certain assumptions and look to see if those assumed hypotheticals make any sense. So, I, first of all, assume that what is happening was meant to happen, What has happened? The election was tampered with, Temp-Trump came into office, and he is going to be taken-down prematurely. We will end-up with Pence. Is it plausible that this was all set-up? I think so, I think it is plausible. How did it happen? A pre election letter from Comey, a recommendation to Trump that he hire the tainted and inoculated Mr. Flynn. Trump then, as is his way, tries to twist an arm that he shouldn't be twisting, he asks for personal loyalty from someone who should not be making person pledges of loyalty. Does Trump get all this? I don't think so. This is how he has always rolled, and, in his mind, it is what he was elected to do. Could all this have been predicted? Absolutely. If Giuliani knew, why would'nt Comey? Could it have been scripted. I think so. Was it scripted? I don't know. What was the end game?... Temp-Trump cedes to a Tea Party Republican. It's plausible, IMHO, and Comey just might have had a witting role. Cheers, Michael

He had a (White?) Russian wife. He was associated with the Paines, intimately. George de Mohrenschildt was his best bud. He knew David Atlee Phillips. Where are Hunt and Liddy? The world may never know. How many people ran in that kind of circle?.... LHO?

9/33 T v. O

Tommy, I sent it in code, Before. Where is your code book? The world wonders.... I have been instructed to not respond to you. Farewell!

Do I have to send DVP a crisp fiver to join-in? Lol! Cheers, Michael

Chris, to be sure, I read a some of your posts in this thread and thought that link would be of great interest to you. It was just a link. It's not like I posted a Steve Gaal sized thread here. Cheers, Michael

The best of Ron Eckert Ron makes me laugh so often I though I should start collecting some his funniest posts. "It's fascinating that the name Curtis Berkley is so rich with anagams. In alphabetical order: Be Cruelty Risk Be Truly Sicker Icky Blusterer Liberty Sucker Lusty Bickerer Rickety Rubles Risky Tubercle Trickery Blues Ye Curst Bilker" Quote this

I am looking a little closer now to see what I did wrong. ****edit. Well, after looking again I am seeing that I just saw the Lacombe reference and dropped a link off and gave the thread a bump. I don't always have such luck when looking for related threads. I often stumble upon them weeks or more after I was actively searching. I know that I would appreciate a simple link being brought to my attention.

I did a quick scan to see if I was duplicating anything. If I missed it in this thread My apologies. I saw the mention of Lacombe and figured I would drop it off here.

Paging Wynne.... we have a few questions waiting, sir. Cheers, Michael

This was getting interesting. Bump.

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I am sub-listing this Louis J. Roussell thread since it has a lot of information on LHO's ancestry, of which, I have seen very little. I have often thought that a part of the conspiracy may have been supported or worked by individuals who wanted to see, As Vladimir Putin recently put it (although I can't find the reference) "a return to 18th Century politics and power structures". I think of the White Russians, the Eastern Establishment and American racism as possible elements of, and motivation for, the 63' Coup. I have often wondered if LHO, in such a clique, which, I hypothesize, dreampt of the "good ol'days", was a sacrificial "Prince". The (presently) last paragraph of the following thread is interesting. Actually, there were many "William Oswald's" Mostly cousins, etc. William Oswald, father of Robert E. Lee Oswald (Sr.) and grandfather to LHO, also had a son named William who also lived in New Orleans as well. In addition, there was Thomas Oswald, and Harvey Oswald, as well as Robert and William. Therefore, there were four sons to continue generation of the Oswald name. The son of William worked at Reilly Coffee Company (aka Standard Coffee aka Luzianne Coffee). This is the reference which LHO gave on his employment application. (Hazel Oswald, widow of William Oswald, and whom LHO visited) Little is known of the "Julius" Oswald, as well as the other female Oswald who worked at Reilly. Someone was supposed to have checked into this long ago, but has never gotten back to me in regards to whom Julius was descended from. Thanks, Tom. I did some checking and the William Oswald in question was William S. Oswald. His uncle was also William S. Oswald and both were from Metairie in New Orleans. The younger William said that his uncle had received a visit from Lee Harvey during the summer of 1963. As to Julius J. Oswald, he was supposedly to have met with Jim Garrison but I have no idea what transpired there. FWIW. BTW, do you know who this is below? He is either William Oswald or he is related to Donald Norton somehow. James I did some checking and the William Oswald in question was William S. Oswald. His uncle was also William S. Oswald and both were from Metairie in New Orleans. The younger William said that his uncle had received a visit from Lee Harvey during the summer of 1963. Correct! William S. Oswald (Sr), husband of Hazel Oswald, was a direct Uncle of LHO, and William S. Oswald (Jr.) of Reily Coffee Co, was first cousin of LHO. Hazel lived at 136 Elmer St. in Metarie Garrison initially indicated an interest in following the "family tree" of LHO, but for some reason then completely dropped the issue.

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