Ron Bulman

In memory of Dickey Betts. The last of the Allman Brothers. I saw them March 24 1973 in Tarrant County convention center from the floor, near the front and again June 28 1974 in Texas Stadium with Joe Walsh and Marshall Tucker. His song, he stepped up after Duane died.

Bill, as a result of your last few post's I'd just gone back and re read the pages on Florence Smith in Hit List and was about to post suggesting her death was interesting in a related way. Not a journalist but close friends with Kilgallen, close enough for Dorothy to give her the Ruby notes that then disappeared. Your post has info not in Hit list. Which I think I have read a few years back (e.g. Mr. Simkins article). She has been discussed on the forum before. When and where I don't recall. I do remember questioning, "She died of a cerebral hemorrhage apparently as a result of having Leukemia" per the death certificate. No autopsy (?), how did they know for sure? Are cerebral hemorrhage's normally associated with Leukemia? (I think I dug a bit but don't remember what I found, if anything). I just seems a strange coincidence that she died from this, two days after her close friend Kilgallen's suspicious death, and the Ruby notes were lost to history. There is another journalist related death I'll post on separately in a bit.

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It's working now. Here we go W.

Dick Clark. Seriously. Hendrix bailed after a few gig's.

I should probably let this thread slide into oblivion, not much interest. But before we do, a few things. As Paul mentioned, great and important work(s). A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments: Albarelli Jr., H. P.: 9780977795376: Amazon.com: Books Several things in the book are shocking, fascinating, and important. Pont-St.-Esprit was one of the most such for me, in addition to Olson's murder. LSD to me was the 1960's mind expanding drug I tried 3 -4 times in the early 1970's. No bad trips, though one a little tense because of unforeseen circumstances. Overdosing people spraying it from a crop duster in 1951 kind of blows my mind today. Allen Dulles facilitated that. It was a multi agency experiment, CIA - Army, Multi National effort, British (French?). Then the Swiss/Sanoz. Eric Olson remembering his father's b/w home movie blurb of a crop duster taking off in an unknown field in the middle of other family things. The villagers noticing men in expensive suits in town the day before. Dr. Albert Hoffman, the Swiss Sanoz researcher/developer of LSD wandering the streets observing in the days afterwards, Sanoz supplied the CIA with LSD for years before I think, MERK synthesized it for the CIA. All a bit mind boggling given the CIA was just getting started. I just kind of figured LSD was something a chemist came up with. I'd never heard of ergot, people afflicted BC. It forms on the grains of rye then ferments under certain conditions of humidity , liberating several alkaloids of ergot. LSD-25 it was noted, was one of the alkaloids produced by the fermentation of ergot. I never knew people were experimented on without their knowledge, many over dosed, purposefully, many died.

Thank you Paul. I think so too.

I know it started before the JFK administration so it's relevant to the JFKA in that respect. RFK went ballistic, tried to subvert LBJ as VP at the LA DNC convention in 1960. And that it went on from there. I was surprised to see this featured at the top of the page on MSN yesterday. I'm wondering if anyone else has seen or Heard it. Because, I can't hear it, the volume is so low. The volume on my pc is turned up full blast. Other things with audio I view are fine. With one exception. A video I watched earlier about Jimi Hendrix opening for the Monkey's. For it I scrunched down with my ear near the lap top speaker and watched out of the corner of my eye. A really interesting video, 12 minutes long. This one is closer to an hour. Anyone else have a similar problem with this? The Intense Feud Between Lyndon B. Johnson & Robert F. Kennedy | White House Tapes | Timeline | Watch (msn.com)

Hi Cliff. I was re reading this thread and had a second thought. When I first read it, I thought the last line referenced JFK. I now wonder given the first line, you weren't saying Bissell and Bundy were sabotaging Dulles were you?

Great find Gil, thanks for sharing. I wonder if Dino Brugioni, maybe Dan Rather and Cartha DeLoache saw the same one. Though none mention, like the latter two, the head going forward for a spit second before being slammed back and to the left. This is so short I wonder if there was more to these guy's interviews originally. I don't question it's authenticity but do also wonder if you know where this came from or who filmed. Are their possibly fuller interviews still buried somewhere?

So, they're guarding the floor to make sure nothing too unsavory slips through. Maybe they need a mirror to observe themselves. I wonder if they might be keeping a pot of beans simmering in the back of the chamber, so they never have to leave to eat. They could have forgotten the cardinal rules of cooking beans. Sift through them slowly to make sure no small rocks might have gotten into/been left in them, and counting them, stopping at 239. Everyone knows that just one more makes them Two Farty. What a name, the Farty Party. I now feel like I'm back in about the 5th grade.

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Strange result when I tried to post Basketball Jones by Cheech and Chong. No response when clicking on the video, then an odd loud changing buzzing sound, which slowly went away after I clicked out of it.

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Hit List is valuable for multiple reasons. I'm not sure about Dead Wrong. Regarding the statistics see Richard Charnin's "Reclaiming Science: The JFK Conspiracy." Eight bucks. In addition to imho, good reviews. Reclaiming Science: the JFK Conspiracy: A mathematical analysis of unnatural deaths, witness testimony, altered evidence and media disinformation: Charnin, Richard: 9781502715999: Amazon.com: Books

I've considered the kind, quiet, salt of the earth aspect of Michael and Ruth being Quakers. Kind of out of their element in Irving. Michael in a position at high level security at Bell Helicopter, a company his step father founded, after he flunked out at Harvard. Still receiving a Forbes family trust fund. Ruth, dad in AID, a CIA front, brother in law in AID, Sister worked for CIA (but Ruth couldn't remember that). Her trip to Naushon Island in the summer of 1963, before she picked Marina up on the way back to Dallas, via New Orleans. Maybe David Talbot asked her the best question ever, so far. "there was only a fleeting moment when Ruth acknowledged that Oswald might have been a pawn in a historical drama much larger than himself. When her visitor suggested that dreamy-eyed adventurers like Oswald can become easy prey for those with cynical intentions, she quickly nodded . "Mu parents had a name for that: 'shut-eyed liberals." In the end Mr. Talbot concludes, "Marina would wish she had never met her rescuer." Pages 535-536, Devils' Chessboard.

Well, one of them was lying. If you believe Ruby over Kantor that's your prerogative. I freely admit that my comment on Ruby being able to get from Parkland to the TT in about 10 minutes is speculation on my part. That he was in both places is not, we have witnesses to both occurrences. We now know Ruby had previously been an FBI informant at one point. Is there any evidence Kantor was an FBI asset? I've never read such, can you point me to it?

Ruth, Marina and children lived in Irving, maybe 10 miles from Dealy Plaza. Two women taking a 4, 2, 1 1/2 yr olds plus a 1 month old to the parade would have been a chore. Bottles, diapers, where to change them when needed, a stroller if they had one, keeping the older ones occupied/track of the. The role of the Paine's is more than curious. That has been discussed in depth on the forum many times, check the back threads. One thing I don't remember reading much about is their politics. Given their elite east coast family connections I have to wonder if maybe they voted for Nixon and Ruth had no interest at all in seeing JFK.

If one believes Seth Kantor, which I do, it meant and still means Ruby lied to the Warren Commission. Why? Because he didn't want to incriminate himself by having to know immediately if JFK was dead? I've read somewhere before that Ruby drove really fast pretty much all the time, that he had several speeding tickets to prove it if I remember right. He also knew Dallas very well given his activities. He could have rushed to Parkland immediately after the assassination tugged on Kantor's coat, then left, still not knowing for sure. He knew a lot of people in Dallas. It's not impossible he knew someone at Parkland who had seen KFK brought in or someone that knew someone who did and had heard he was dead. I think in that day and time (much less traffic) JR could have been from Parkland to the Texas Theater in about 10 minutes. I've been that route before. Not timing it but on the way to see Oswald's rooming house, where Tippit was shot and the TT. If Applin was telling the truth, years later, Ruby was there for a purpose. To eliminate Oswald before he ended up in police custody, and he missed his chance?

Yes, LBJ listened to Youngblood's walkie-talkie. He knew by then what was happening. He had to so he wouldn't flip out. As per the thread title, I wonder if Dulles spoke with LBJ a week, maybe two before the assassination. Not much more than that, I don't think Dulles would have trusted him on a leash any longer.

This is very interesting Cory. It's directed to Hoover (Director), from SAC Dallas, a report from SA Kaack of New Orleans, about Ruth informing the FBI on 11/1/1963 that Oswald was working at the Texas School Book Depository. I don't doubt the authenticity, but why the convoluted routing? Ruth was conversing with SA Barwell Odum and I think SA James Hosty somewhere around this time. In any case Ruth told the FBI Oswald was in place at the TSBD three weeks before the assassination.

The topic of your thread is A Sorry Nightmare of A Book. An obvious reference to Into The Nightmare. Everything I referenced and quoted was from the Badge Man chapter in that book. I've listened to some of Joseph's interviews/pod casts in the last few years. I don't remember him saying Tippit was on the Grassy Knoll. Do you have a link? Or should I just run off and forget about it?

I still believe LBJ was used. By those authorizing the execution, the plotters and planners who oversaw the executioners. They knew they had to have their puppet in place before the Kennedy's dumped LBJ. Which was going to start in the news the next week.

Huh? What LBJ-LHO connection? This whole post seems a big mumbo-jumbo-ish to me.

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