Benjamin Cole

One thing I never understood. Almost the minute JFK was assassinated, the intel-military community dropped Cuba like a hot potato, and went gungho into Vietnam.

JD-- Reiner gave a dispiriting interview with Jeff Morley, in which he recounted meeting (as I recall) three CIA ex-chiefs. He then asked Brennan what he thought...I plan a review of the Morley interview, if I can find it again. Perhaps I am too harsh on Reiner. But is sure seems like Reiner is just bandy-snatching various memes and stories (Plumlee, French assassins) that have been floating around for generations. There are many very solid JFKA researchers---Tink Thompson, Larry Hancock, Jeff Morley and yourself --who almost certainly would not have advised the Reiner confection.

Btw, I understand if you place crystals around your abode, you will get tremendous results. Give it a whirl. It can't hurt. "That is, the city of Taos, Chaco Canyon, and El Santuario de Chimayo are all purported to be centers of energy pouring out of the earth"

I have not been following that story. Regardless of the specifics of Colorado law, I am uncomfortable with a sitting judge declaring a defendant guilty of insurrection, as a declaration of fact, and not one based on a finding of a court. Where Trump finds his lawyers is a mystery. Ms. Habba is certainly attractive, but seems a little out of her element in such a trial. She is a Syrian Christian, a self-made woman and admirable, but is that the right lawyer? That's about as much as I know.

I am entangled in NDAs. I am hoping to coordinate the Pugibet datebook with the Lafitte datebook. A lot of cross-fertilization could happen.

WP-- I agree with you. The legacy media has treated RFK2 with astonishing antipathy. Despite that, RFK2 appears to be gaining in the polls---I think this reflects the public's growing disillusionment with the increasingly insulated, globalist, self-serving and elite major parties. Well, a long time to the election. Biden's cognitive decline is a sad topic. Biden may also face the "keffiyeh" problem, if the work wing of Team Donk keeps flying Palestinian flags at Donk gatherings. In the same vein, Trump has alienated almost everyone he has ever worked with, and has nearly zero institutional support. Maybe there is a shot for RFK2. If he does not get shot.

You assessment is incorrect; there are many Trump talking points I do not repeat. You conflate my skepticism of Donks with being "for" Trump or the GOP. You also conflate my belief that people are innocent until proven guilty in an open court of law with being "pro-Trump." I am also skeptical of the 'Phants, and Trump. I am even skeptical of RFK2, but of the three---Trump, Biden or RFK2---I would go with RFK2. Biden strikes me as a creature of the Deep State, an HRC2. So, we see the snuff job on the JFK Records Act. Why else snuff out 60-year-old records? (The topic of this thread, btw). Interesting segment here on global censorship, worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94p6Q1BAtS8 Side question: If the wearing of keffiyehs becomes common at Donk rallies, or at the Donk convention...would you consider voting for another party of independent candidate?

I could live with Sanders, though he is no spring chicken either.

That seemed like an ill-considered comment by Judge Wallace. I would prefer if someone is charged with insurrection, that they found guilty of the charge before a jury in a public trial, in open court, with the defendant having adequate counsel. Judge Wallace's comments have a faint whiff of "star chamber" about them. Unilaterally, she has decided Trump is guilty? I would say that anyone charged with insurrection is entitled to a fair trial and the presumption of innocence.

Like I said, I regard people as innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, before a jury of peers. As of now, I regard the Biden family as innocent of taking bribes. As you point out, the WaPo did not find Joe Biden personally benefitted from the $4.8 million in China-CCP money that went to the Biden family. However, the WaPo does not have subpoena powers, cannot review bank records, smartphone texts, emails, or require to people to testify in court or in depositions, while under oath. Some even suspect the WaPo is closely aligned with the D-Party and Deep State elements. One might surmise that Donk office holder surviving a WaPo "investigation"...well, draw your own conclusions. BTW, I am not partisan, at least not in the American sense. I have washed my hands of both major political parties. I support RFK2 for president, as I believe he will open up the JFK Records Act. If he lives. But if I thought Attila the Hun would open up the JFK Records, then I would vote for Attila the Hun.

Matt- Oh come. Even the WaPo and South China Morning Post have printed that the Biden family accepted $4.8 million from China-based entities linked to the CCP, and that Hunter Biden cleared $4 million from a Ukrainian energy company. Were these large sums of money outright bribery? That has to be determined in a court of law, judged by peers. Maybe you are Batman, after all. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-china-laptop/ https://www.scmp.com/news/world/united-states-canada/article/3229805/hunter-biden-made-millions-amid-nonstop-debauchery-plea-agreement-says

I may be a little more forgiving than you...but at bottom your sentiments are correct. BTW, Reiner is now palsy-walsy with senior CIA officials. Perhaps they are not alarmed, but rather amused, at this confection of suppositions amalgamated by Reiner. That they somewhat encouraged.

Yeah, I spent a long stretch building furniture, and sanding by hand is another activity that will lend itself to mind-wandering contemplation. Now, I plant a lot of trees. Same deal, but one has the illusion of productivity. I am fighting global warming! This 2024 US election is a house 'o fire. As I said, it may turn on a sleeper issue like too many people at the Donk convention wearing keffiyehs, or the 'Phants thundering about outlawing abortion. If keffiyehs are seen prominently at Donk rallies.... BTW, I regard people as guilty of a crime, only after they have been convicted in public court by their peers, and the appeals process exhausted. One could posit the Bidens have been outright bribed by Ukrainians and the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). But they have not been convicted of anything, and the charges might not hold up. So it goes. This innocent until proven guilty standard is dispensable to partisan maniacs....

Horne does a good job on the unfathomable Tunheim statements, so I won't add much. Tunheim is a federal judge? So if a dozen witnesses testified in a murder case, in his court, that they heard two shots from inside a suspect's building, but when the police got there they found no weapon or suspect, would Tunheim say "there was no evidence that there had been gunshots from inside the building."? Or, would he conclude the physical evidence had disappeared? That is, the suspect ran off, with his gun? As a judge he might conclude (actually it would be a jury) that the evidence was not strong enough to convict. That is fine, that is called reasonable doubt. But there is a difference between having reasonable doubt and simply saying, "There is no evidence."

JB- I think some recent polls have showed RFK2 would draw votes away from independent voters, who now support Trump. Well, I feel about this Presidential race the way I used to feel when I went to Santa Anita racetrack, many moons ago, and watched a "cheap claiming race": "I don't see how any of these nags can win. I am sure they will all lose." BTW, not many people are talking about three "sleeper issues." Abortion. The 'Phants are making a mistake on this issue, I suspect. Global terrorism: The left's idolization of Hamas, and Tliab's genocidal battle cry to wash Israel away "from the river to the sea" does not sit well---with all opponents of brutal terrorism and atrocities, not just certain religious groups. If you see keffiyahs worn in Donk rallies...and you will. Maybe at the Donk convention, keffiyahs. Then what? Housing: First the West Coast, now all of America has unaffordable housing. RFK2 has a battle ahead to unlock the RFK Records. Hold on tight!

Relax. Just one Biden-backer company I mentioned, BlackRock, has $10 trillion under management. Yes, with a 't." Apple has a market cap of $3 trillion (see the "t.") Have you heard of the Pentagon and the Deep State? Oh, maybe a little bit of power there, no? Really? You think this rump-group of poseurs and cranks around Trump amounts to much? Are you afraid of Mr. Buffalo Horns? (mysteriously and peacefully ushered around the Capitol by the Capitol Police, first to the Senate Floor and then the Senate viewing gallery). Even if Trump is elected (I put at less than 20% odds, maybe even lower than 10%) it won't matter much. You saw what legacy media, weaponized prosecutions and the Donks did to Trump last time. Look for a repeat. Let's see if RFK2 lives, and if he can win. And if he can stay alive. Speaking of racism and anti-semitism, Ms Rashida Tliab, Donk-Michigan, has repeated the Hamas' death-cry, "Free Palestine from the river to the sea," which is a call for the destruction of Israel and the population therein. Only 20 House Donks voted to censure Tliab, and all the 'Phants. Why is there so much anti-semitism in the "woke" American left, and tolerated by the Donks? You want to vote for either of these two major parties? Why? Are you ready to wear a keffiyah for your party?

Well, we are on different pages on this one. Biden has huge and powerful anti-democratic institutions who put him into the White House, and will likely keep him there. Trump has these little Mutt-and-Jeff shops, and political oddballs, backing him. But rest easy. They are not letting Trump back into the White House. Even RFK2 is...hard to say, 2-to-1 against? That is, if RFK2 lives.

Sheesh, those Trump backers you mention are ants next to Biden's battleship backers. Parts of Fox also also Trump supporters, at least from what little I see. In comparison, Biden has the intel agencies, the Pentagon, the State Dept, the Justice Dept, the legacy media, global commercial enterprise. Biden is backed by the NYT, WaPo, NBC...legacy media....then also Apple, GM, Disney, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, BlackRock, Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook. The DNC. Wall Street lobbyists, think tanks, foundations. Do you have any idea of how much money, power and influence is backing Biden? It is interesting why the public in Western democracies is turning on elected establishment leaders is a gigantic topic, but even a book could only scratch the surface, and won't endeavor to tackle the topic in this format. Suffice it say the Donks and 'Phants have failed the public and made it obvious they are not working Mr. and Mrs. America. Most voters do not like Trump. They just dislike him less than the options, and 50 years of declining living standards, and increasing coarseness in public life. But relax. I likely will not vote for Trump. His character/personality appears deficient. RFK2 is interesting, and I think he will open up the JFK Records. I disagree with Matt A. The reason the records are being suppressed is that the tenacious JFK research community has shown an ability to connect dots. Like Joannides records from New Orleans, and the Bill Harvey records. But as for a Trump election, I shrug my shoulders. It will not be TEOTWAWKI. Trump was already president fro four years, and nothing happened, except some changing of terms of trade with China, and perhaps a little more border security. Big whoop.

People can have legitimate concerns about Trump. But, egads, he is a bonsai tree in a redwood forest of anti-democratic forces in America. Trump is totally without institutional allies in Washington. Read that again. Trump lacks the same allies---the intel agencies, the Pentagon, the State Dept, the Justice Dept, the legacy media, global commercial enterprise---that make the D- and R-parties so entrenched, undemocratic and globalist in nature. Biden? Served as the chairman or ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for twelve years---and before that he was a member on the committee. Then veep under Obama. The guy is a party trencherman, and the party represents Wall Street. This is democracy? I assume readers here are aware how Sanders was torpedoed by the DNC. And now Biden has done a permanent snuff job on the JFK Records Act. If this is defensible, then anything is defensible. As I say, right now I would vote for Attila the Hun if I believed he would open up the JFK Records. I will likely vote for any major candidate not affiliated with the two major parties.

Somehow, the Biden Administration's snuff job on the JFK Records Act has garnered support or tacit approval even from EF-JFKA members, evidently for partisan reasons. Some members have suggested if Biden is snuffing the records, it must be for good reason. And if RFK2 wants to open up the records, the reasons are suspect. I cannot fathom such thinking, except that we live in polarized times, and people are grasping onto identities, be it ID politics, or major-party partisanship. The media fans this ID politics and partisanship constantly. Frankly, I would vote for Attila the Hun if he would open up the JFK Records Act.

I think only Boone made the "Made in Italy" stamp claim. I have never delved too deeply into this particular topic, but others say the photographs taken of a DPD'er carrying the rifle out of the TSBD do match with the Mannlicher-Carcano. My guess is the M-C rifle was in fact the one they found. The likely reason to have LHO mail order the rifle was to create a paper trail. But who knows?

My guess is you are on target, although "incompetence" might be harsh. "Dazed" or "not thinking clearly." But who knows? I guess the Landis story is real...but as for proof....

RB-- Your concerns are valid. However...Jim Robenalt, who helped Landis write the book, was not a CT'er. In late 2013, for the City Club of Cleveland, Robenalt hosted Howard Willens and Burt Griffin, Warren Commission lawyers, for a 1:18 talk. Willens and Griffin are staunch defenders of the WC and the LN narrative. As you can see, the talk is entitled, "The True Story of the Warren Commission." Robenalt is a gracious and accepting host. Griffin and Willens, WC'ers, are hardcore WC defenders. But in a recent interview with Larry Schnapf and Jeff Morley, Robenalt said he has confidence in Landis. He describes Landis as lucid and active. The short story, as I understand it, is this: Landis was in a daze post-JFKA (that's believable). So, he did what he did, thinking he had left evidence where it would be found. Landis somewhat realized what he did was wrong, and he more or less detached from 11/22 thereafter. He left the Secret Service shortly after the JFKA and had a varied career, and says he did not involve himself in the JFKA thereafter, even passively. Landis testified to the HSCA, and left out his finding of the spent slug, although he did say he thought the shots had come from the front. But late in life Landis looked at the JFKA topic again, and realized the official record needed cleaning up, and he himself came clean. I will say this: The Landis version explains the shallow wound in JFK's back. An undercharged slug struck JFK in his back, entered perhaps an inch or two, and was pushed out by the shock wave of subsequent impacts. Pat Speer says the use of undercharged slugs is mentioned in CIA literature and I have confirmed that. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html In the JFKA, I suspect someone hand-loaded a previously used WCC 6.5 cartridge, leaving behind the "dent" or crimp seen on one of the three recovered shells. Whether the shell was amateurishly hand-loaded due to a lack or ammo, or was done under CIA plotter's supervision...well, who knows? LHO, or other party, evidently had only four rounds. JFK's throat wound is a mystery, but perhaps Pat Speer/Tink Thompson are right, it was a bone fragment exiting the throat, or perhaps it was small glass shard from the windshield, also pushed out by subsequent impacts. If you can find the Robenalt interview both Schnapf and Morley, I recommend it.

I am shocked---shocked!---to find out we are largely in agreement.

Paul B- OK fair point, Reiner is not "fresh off the boat." But Tosh Plumlee? That's your lead? Then Reiner's discussions and friendly rapport with Brennan and other CIA'ers is unsettling. I suppose you could say, "Who is using who?," but between Reiner and people who careers have involved deception and smoke-screening...I would say Reiner is getting used. It looks like the CIA'ers got Reiner coopted, as they told Reiner, "Yeah, Trump is bad." And then, like all intel agencies all through history, they highlighted the threats they knew the audience most wanted to hear about. Reiner is swooning. If a basketball player suddenly shows up at Yankee Stadium, and plays shortstop...how well will he do? Reiner is like that. Smart guy...but maybe in the wrong league. Well, let's see what develops. Asserting there were four gunsels in Dealey Plaza, and then naming them? Is Reiner going to present this as fact, or "reasonable speculation"? Either way looks bad. So it goes....