David Boylan

This doc has some new names that are now unredacted - Warren Dean and Horace Speed. The third version in the MFF DB has them redacted. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2022/104-10213-10231.pdf Cain was a source for DCD's Horace Speed. Seems he reported on the FPCC in Chicago and on members of the DRE in their weapons purchases. He also claimed he worked for Task Force W.

I thought Jim D did a great job. Great interview!

Hi Matt, I think that was Carlos Hernandez Hernandez. Carlos Hernandez Sanchez was good friends with Barker. They used to drive around Miami together. If I remember correctly, Barker used to go fishing with CH's grandfather in Cuba.

Some of the docs that are still pending: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/2022/docid-32423638.pdf https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/rif-numbers

A 70% release....

Joe, It's the gov't. Going to hit "send" just before they go home.

Joe, I can only speculate that this has to do with Hemming setting up a camp in 1962 with the help of A-Rod.

For those that like to read docs: Warren DeBrueys report. His PSI was Arnesto Rodriguez. Copies sent to Miami and INS. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=80631#relPageId=2 Bringuier and Rodriguez as FBI informants. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=193664#relPageId=2 Bringuier has sign from Arnesto https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95624#relPageId=65 Arnesto and Bringuier with tape and transcript of LHO and Butler https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10490#relPageId=542 Arnesto Sr - https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=8890#relPageId=2 Arnesto Rodriguez getting help from Americans and weapons. Good doc. Needed money. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=25527#relPageId=5 Arnesto files, Gerry Hemming file https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=81672#relPageId=2

Gerry, Anything is possible. Arnesto said this:

We know the MDC camp was run by Angel Vega. Vega was one the leaders of the MDC in Miami that was led by, depending on when, Laureano Batista Falla. Informed speculation, but speculation, LHO still could have heard about the MDC camp from Carlos, if Carlos was indeed one of Oswald's escorts. Carlos worked closely with Batista Falla on infiltrating Cuba as late as March 1963 and as such, would have known of the camp seeing as though he was only a few miles away at the time. By summer of 1963, Carlos and Humberto Solis joined up with the procurer of JURE weapons, Carlos Zarraga.

Some notes from a slide. Who Was Emilio Rodriguez AMIRE-1? According to his personal statement written for the CIA he: Born in Havana 1928 US Citizen, Cuban by birth Nationalized in New Orleans High School and University in New Orleans (Tulane) BA in Biology/Chemistry. Masters in Spanish and Portuguese Lived in Cuba 1954-61 Student Pilot Certificate Exfiltrated to US June 6, 1961 with a Swiss Protective passport Asst District Mgr for Century Electronic Company Father, Arnesto was District Manager Previously was professor of the Berlitz School of Languages at the ITM in New Orleans Med Research technician at Tulane Get’s his interview. (Wears glasses) Got the job! Case officer was Ralph Seehafer WH/4/FI-CI His $2050 delivered by Zamka (David Morales)

Tom, It was Arnesto's mother-in-law that reported on him. Can't trust those mothers-in-law! 🙂 Arnesto claimed to have only one face to face with Oswald. I just don't believe him. He knew lots about him that could only come from a few conversations. Arnesto knew Banister "and all those guys." Arnesto was also a supporter of George Lincoln Rockwell of the American N A Z I Party. In the Oswald world of coincidences, Rockwell's name and address were in Oswald's notebook along with Dan Burros. Speculative on my part, but I suspect Rodriguez and Oswald talked about politics and the far right. AR knew that Oswald knew about the MDC training camp. Some notes from the presentation: Married to Elena Lopez (Mexican) who was also employed at the Berlitz School Had contacts with right wing extremists Oswald’s notebook had names and addresses of Dan Burros and Lincoln Rockwell, (Oswald and the National Socialists - Jerry Rose) Small cell in New Orleans. Had an office (CRC) in the same building as Guy Banister Was an FBI informant (Ref 2) Close friends with Carlos Bringuier. Both attended JBS meeting Friend of American National Socialists. Friends with George Rockwell Rockwell was arrested May 25, 1961 in New Orleans. Banister bailed him out. Had taped conversation with LHO.

Matt, Sylvia Odio did state that she would have quite a few visits by members of the exile community. Murgado may have visited her but at a different time. So, he may be telling the truth as he knew it. Other researchers believe that "Angel" may have been Herminio Diaz-Garcia. HDG and Carlos did have more than a few friends in common. Both were associated with Carlos Zarraga. Zarraga was the number three guy in JURE. He would supply both weapons and men for JURE infiltration missions.

Paul, Carlos' name was out there but not his photo. Sarita Odio was a member of the DRE. Sylvia recognized Carlos Bringuier from the film that Wesley Liebler showed her. She had met him before. She also visited New Orleans to visit her uncle shortly after the assassination. Pure speculation, but I suspect she tempered her identifications based upon what she learned.

Matt, There is a photo of Victor further up this thread. Both sets of possible Odio visitors have their strengths and weaknesses. Carlos and Victor fit the description fairly closely. Carlos was a member of JURE during the critical time. Victor was not. Carlos had his POA with the CIA, Victor did not. Victor's brother Rene fit some of the Oswald escort sightings. The other set would be the Rodriguez brothers, Arnesto and Emilio. Here we tied Arnesto directly to Banister, Oswald, and Bringuier. Emilio was a member of the counterintelligence group for SAS and JMWAVE. He connects directly to David Morales, Tony Sforza, Rip Robertson and David Phillips. There was a major effort to recruit Mexico City Cuban Consul Eusebio Azcue before he was scheduled to return to Havana Oct 4, 1963. Tony Sforza was tasked with getting his and Emilio's asset Jose Casas (AMOT-106) to make a final pitch to Azcue to get him to defect either in place or come to the US. We know that failed. In this world of coincidences, we know that "Oswald" met with Azcue and somehow knew that Azcue was going back to Havana during his short visit. Here you can see Sylvia Odio's uncle going down the stairs. Around 9-15 seconds in you see Oswald giving the hairy eyeball, in order, to Carlos Bringuier, Arnesto Rodriguez, Emilio Rodriguez and who I believe to be Arnesto Sr.

You forgot "Angel/Angelo"

After working with Larry over the last few years I've learned some of the key principles that he uses in his research: Does it fit the context? Is it consistent? Does it make sense? Does it fit with what we know? If we apply some of these questions to Oswald's "escorts" and the Sylvia Odio visit: Would Oswald travel with people that he doesn't know? Would "Angel/Angelo" and "Leopoldo" travel with each other unless they knew each other or were friends? After visiting Odio did Angel and Leopoldo stay in Dallas or did they go onto Mexico City? If this was part of a CIA Op to get Oswald to Mexico City what was the Op? Were they CIA assets? Would the CIA take a chance on those that weren't trusted assets? How would her visitors know about Sarita (DRE) and her, Sylvia (JURE), and her father (MRP)? After looking at these questions, Larry and I came up with two sets of individuals. The first set was Carlos Hernandez (Angel?) and Victor Espinosa Hernandez (Leopoldo?). They were both close to each other having come up through the camps training for the Bay of Pigs. Carlos considered Victor one of his best friends. They were in New Orleans in summer of 1963 having come from Miami. Victor had the idea that they could bomb Havana. Victor's friend Mike McLaney volunteered his brother Bill's place at Lake Pontchartrain to store the dynamite and bomb casings. Both were CIA assets. Carlos was AMHAZE-2523 and Victor AMHINT-24. Carlos had an active CIA Provisional Operational Approval (POA) in Sept 1963. Carlos had been used in a previous DRE propaganda and psych warfare operation run by the DRE/APMSPELL case officer at the time (Aug 1962) Ross Crozier. He and 8 other members of the DRE travelled to Helsinki for the World Youth Festival to disrupt the Cuban delegation and I speculate, help with the defection of Rolando Cubela (AMLASH) [Victor Espinosa was also close to Cubela. He and Cubela would go out clubbing in Cuba. Victor was in Cubela's hospital room when Fidel and Raul Castro came to visit. Raul was particularly close to Cubela.] The DRE (Student Revolutionary Directorate) was composed of young independent minded members. In other words, the CIA could not control them. One example was when Crozier under the alias of Roger Fox accompanied 9 DRE members to the 8th World Youth Festival in Helsinki, July-Aug 1962. John Koch and Enrique Beloyra were so disruptive that the Finnish police "detained" them. Koch and Beloyra were banned from joining the remaining members from speaking at the festival. Despite the ban, Carlos Hernandez, Juan Salvat and Anna Diaz-Silveira managed to speak and draw attention to Koch and Beloyra's detention. The Finnish police released them both on the condition that they leave Finland the next day. From a previous essay: It didn't take DRE members (Salvat, Hernandez, Blanco) long before they caused an international incident by firing on the Blanquita hotel in Havana (Aug 24th). Both Czech and Russian officers were staying there. The purpose was to bring attention that Russians were in Cuba. They also reported that there were Soviet missiles in Cuba. The end for Crozier aka "the man in Miami" came when he asked Luis Fernandez-Rocha (AMHINT-53) and Salvat and three others to infiltrate Cuba on either Oct 23-24 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Ostensibly to report on military intelligence but told they might have to direct artillery fire. Their Today Show interview on Nov 12 and a newspaper article bought DRE members Fernandez-Rocha and Jose Lasa a face to face meeting with Richard Helms himself on Nov 13, 1962. Nestor Sanchez translated. Helms informed them at this meeting that there would be a change in their contact in Miami. (He would replace Crozier with George Joannides alias Walter Newby). He said that (Joannides) could come directly to him (Helms) if he needed any clarification. Fernandez-Rocha Report to Joannides aka Howard https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=18928#relPageId=3 Even after Joannides(Newby) replaced Crozier, the DRE were still doing their own thing. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=16129#relPageId=3 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Did Carlos end up in Dallas? We know that his friends and fellow DRE members were in Dallas during early October 1963 giving speeches and were fundraising. Specifically, Juan Salvat and Anna Diaz-Silviera. As noted above Carlos was on stage with Salvat and Diaz. Here we have this report from Dallas in October 1963: “In one such event the unidentified speaker made extremely hostile remarks about President Kennedy, stating that something was going to be done to deal with him. After the speech, and upon learning he had been taped, the speaker took it by force - warning that he held a black belt in martial arts. It is impossible to identify that speaker, but for reference, DRE member Carlos Hernandez is noted in CIA documents as being both skilled in martial arts, and regarded as a sharpshooter.” Now if Joannides was running an Op against the FPCC (see what Jeff Morley discussed during the press conference), it would seem to me to use a trusted asset and someone on the CIA payroll.

That is sad news. RIP David.

Nancy, Wasn't GDM friends with Lester Logue? Logue was close to the Hunts, etc. Logue also supported and funded Gerry Hemming and Loran Hall.

Larry, Great job today. Thanks for doing this!

Another report - https://www.rawstory.com/lee-harvey-oswald-cia/

I thought everybody did a good job here. Larry, Rex, Fernand, Jeff and Tunheim. All were very effective.

On now.

Who Was Carlos Hernandez? Trained in Panama under Carl Jenkins and Rocky Farnsworth. Member of the “cadre” (Orest Pena, Caballero and the “cadre”) Spent 3 weeks in August 1962 at the World Youth Festival at Helsinki as a provocator under US Government direction Was close friends with Miguel Alvarez Jimenez and Victor Espinosa Hernandez. They trained together in Guatemala in infiltration Friends with Bernard Barker, Manuel Artime, Rafael Quintero, Juan Salvat and Jose Basulto Leon. Member of Quintero’s Commandos as part of the AMWORLD Project Was at JMMOVE training Nino Diaz troops prior to the BOP Training: “Full of PM courses - including Raider and guerilla ops to maritime and air drops” Was a member of MRR, DRE and Cuba Libre where he was Military Coordinator Was friends with Humberto Solis who was a member of Cuba Libre Bodyguard for Artime (black belt in Judo)

Who Was Victor Espinosa Hernandez? Was a close friend of Rolando Cubela Considered himself a “playboy” Papucho translates to “Hottie” Trained with Carlos Hernandez in the “camps” He and Carlos were close friends. Went on two raids with him Trained in Panama and Guatemala. Most likely with Carl Jenkins and Rocky Farnsworth (was a member of the “Cadre”) Was a close friend of Mike McLaney Trained Manuel Artime in Panama on demolition techniques. He didn’t like him Knew Norman Rothman. Friends with his son Cappy Rothman Leader of the Lake Pontchartrain bombing attempt Was at JMMOVE training Nino Diaz troops prior to the BOP