Robert Montenegro

Just now, Anthony Thorne said:

Again, Robert, please calm down, and again - what are you going on about here? Did you read what you just posted?

As proof that the AI is accessing your private Bard activity, you cite a link stating that Google is storing the bard activity in your Google account.

This makes sense if they're keeping a standard record of what was searched. I figured that they would.

Where does it say it's accessing the drive for queries?

It doesn't.

 Well then I stand corrected and I'll delete the post.

3 minutes ago, Keyvan Shahrdar said:

We are all conspiracy theorists so this post should not surprise anyone.

I am not a theorist.

I use original documentation and draw logical conclusions—that is called investigative journalism.

15 minutes ago, Anthony Thorne said:

Robert, what are you talking about?

Google Bard is run by Google. I'm pretty sure Google already has everything that is on the Google drive. I know this because I can't access any of it unless I sign in to Google, at which point Google lets me access the documents that Google is storing there. 

I just clicked two different links just now at the Google Bard site reading their FAQ's as to what is kept and recorded and collected. it's exactly the same stuff that I would have figured Google was collecting, nothing particularly out of the ordinary.

As far as banking information goes, I'm not sure how many people go so far as to store their own personal banking info with Google in Google docs. But if anyone is doing this, then they're giving their banking info to Google, probably without Google even asking for it. it seems a bit rich then to complain that Google has this, if you're going out of your way to give it to them.

Beyond all that, where does Google Bard say that they're accessing the materials on your Google account or drive to conduct their searches?

Yes, you are 100% percent correct, Mr. Thorne, BARD is a product of Google, and yes, you're really asking for it if you leave private information on open servers, but the point I am trying to make is that the BARD capability is accessing Drive data, and that is dangerous.

Dangerous in the sense that the AI Google is using can collect key search data and feed it to a third party.

I know the internet is nothing but a massive DARPA experiment, and yes, thanks to the revelations of NSA contractor Edward Snowden, I know everything we look at is collected, but allowing a private company, who contracts with the United States military to access same data, over internal drive data, that is asking for trouble.

As for as the proof that this AI is accessing Drive data:

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1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

But here is the capper.  On the day Kennedy was killed, Oppenheimer's son came into his office while he was working on his acceptance speech. He told him the news. His secretary then affirmed it.  Oppenheimer offered his son a drink.  But when he went over to the liquor cabinet, he stopped.  His hand started to tremble, and he could not pour the drink. As they walked outside to watch TV Oppenheimer said the following: 

"Now things are going to come apart very fast."

A disturbing footnote to what Mr. Oppenheimer had to say about President Kenney's death was that COL. Boris Theodore Pash, the US Army Chief of Counter-Intelligence at the IX Corps Area, HQ, Western Defense Command, at the Presidio of San Francisco during WWII, was tasked with ferreting out suspected Soviet agents within the staff of Radiation Laboratory of the University of California, Berkeley, where the entire Physics Department was attached to the Manhattan Project.

Mr. Oppenheimer was interrogated several times during WWII by COL. Pash, whom felt that Oppenheimer's personal ethics would conflict with the task of creating a weapon of mass destruction, and, because of that, COL. Pash assigned several plainclothes Army CIC agents to keep Oppenheimer in line with the mission.

Strangely enough, by the mid-1950s, COL. Pash was the command officer of Office of Policy Coordination covert action committee, Program Branch 7 (PB/7), whose task it was to oversee the planning of all "wet-works" for CIA proper.

"Wet-works" being a euphemism for assassinations, of course.

Under oath to the Church Committee in 1975, COL. Pash said he could not remember a single instance where he was ordered to conduct a targeted murder...

24 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Monté,

When the tears subside . . .

Meanwhile, no apologies necessary here, and you continue to be a breath of fresh air in my world.

(btw, you are a fine, fine writer, and while Hank wasn't prone to professional jealousy, I suspect he would envy this piece — and bleed for you for the experiences that prompted it.)

best. L.

Thank you Leslie.

I wouldn't be here if Hank didn't support me in my hour of need.

Today, I make this post in the spirit of great shame and humility.

I have lashed out publicly, in unwarranted fashion, at two dedicated fact-finders, researchers, Leslie Sharp and Joseph Backes, for different reasons—to which I say to each of them, I am deeply sorry, you do not deserve to be targets of my personal mar & ail.

For ten years now, always roughly around this time of year, I have suffered from physical irritability, and psychological despair.

This is because on 11 August 2013, I received the devastating news that three of my personal friends were killed in action, while engaging in combat operations in Paktika, Province, Afghanistan:

My squad leader, SSG. Octavio Herrera.

My assistant squad leader, SGT. Jamar Avery Hicks.

My battle-buddy, SPC. Keith Erin Grace Jr.

May the almighty keep you in the fold of infinite creation and brilliant enlightenment, brothers—be at ease, & rest.

And for ten long years, I have been in the brutal pursuit of why.

Why was I, and so many of my brothers-in-arms, thrusted into a conflict with no final goal, no sound tactics employed, no end-game, no exit-strategy, & ultimately, no reasonably sane geopolitical purpose?

The horrific answer I have come to in the past four or five years is that a fascist clique of heartless, soulless, psychopaths have thrusted the full mechanisms of Western Civilization (for what it is worth), in a suicidal death spiral—a death spiral whose gyrating center is the Military Industrial Complex and the profiteers that keep it in motion—all for the sake of profit, nothing more.

Three trillion dollars worth of US taxpayers money and natural resources disappeared in Afghanistan and over five-hundred thousand Afghan civilians perished from direct combat action, disease and malnutrition.

Not to mention over four-thousand US military servicemen and defense related contractors were killed in action in a twenty-year war on sovereign Afghan soil, and God knows how many have taken their own lives (and still are killing themselves).

It is not lost on me, that one of the last heads of state that was invited to the Kennedy White House, was the honorable “Father of the Nation,” King Mohammad Ẓāhir Shāh, the non-aligned, imperial ruler of Afghanistan:

Above is a photograph, taken 5 September 1963, of President Kennedy, greeting King of Afghanistan, Mohammad Ẓāhir Shāh on the North Portico of the White House, along with Chief of Protocol, Angier Biddle Duke, who is standing in the center.

Like President Kennedy, King Ẓāhir was also the target of a coup d'état, that involved the sponsorship of Western intelligence assets.

Once again, I apologize to anyone on this forum if I have come off as an irritable S.O.B., but I suffer from not just shell-shock from my own personal experiences in combat, but from the loss of three of the most affable human-beings I’ve ever had the pleasure of knowing.

I’ll leave you, the reader of this post, with the words of hope from one of the most important, albeit, personally flawed (as we all are), statesmen of the 20th century—words that sadly, represent a missed opportunity of peace, this Earth, and its inhabitants, all suffer from:

I am sure that if President Kennedy had lived, the situation in Afghanistan would have been different, and my brothers, and countless others, would still be alive...
 

On 7/11/2023 at 4:34 PM, Leslie Sharp said:

So, would Morales, responsible for the swamp groups (identified in the datebook) having trained at Opa-locka and or Pontchartrain OR the property of the New Orleans guy whose name escapes me (see Fensterwald document), be read in on the strategy prior to November 22? If so, by whom?

Uhh, Leslie, the "...whom..." that you are, for some strange reason cannot bring yourself to fathom, responsible of the "...swamp groups..." is, in fact, mentioned in the datebook: 

COL. Samuel Goodhue Kail, who was literally the CIA task-force commander, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station, overseeing the spotting, recruiting, training, interrogation, integration, and resettlement of thousands of displaced Cuban expats—along with his immediate counterparts at CAC:

George E. Aurell (CIA Defector Coordinator, Interagency Defector Committee/ commander, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station)

Dorothe Kerans Matlack (CIA Interagency Defector Committee/ commander, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station)

David Sánchez Morales (Chief of Foreign Intelligence, CIA Counterintelligence Staff, Western Hemisphere Division, Cuban Operations/ CIA liaison, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station)

Not to mention that COL. Kail was the United States Army liaison to the entire CIA Cuban Operations Task Force, operating under 4th US Army Operations Group—US Army Assistant Chief of Staff, Intelligence, Pentagon, which just so happened to include:

George Efythron Joannides, JMWAVE Chief of Psychological Warfare and JMWAVE Deputy Director of Covert Operations.

Just because that mass-murdering, narco-terrorist, fascist, psychopath Lafitte, didn't mention it in his datebook, doesn't mean it isn't crucial or not intrinsic, to the factual historical narrative of what happened on 22 November 1963!

On 7/11/2023 at 4:34 PM, Leslie Sharp said:

Next stop: Zagnew Station, Eugene Dinkin. pigpen cypher, Proctor in the desert with WerBell, Eritrea, Tom Davis, Philippe de Vosjoli and Sam Kail.

And I cannot believe you mentioned the pigpen cypher I identified.

We literally talked about that yesterday evening, and you agreed it would never be mentioned until WE, as a TEAM, could verify bonafides on what it represents.

I think I'm done here.

Adiós Ed Forum, like Pontius Pilatus, I wash my hands.

46 minutes ago, Mark Knight said:

As far as Oswald's rights, Miranda v. Arizona wasn't decided until 1966. 

That meant that, prior to 1966, many defendants had their rights violated during police questioning because those rights weren't specifically enumerated until Miranda.

Interrogations in 1963 were quite different. Remember, DPD tried to get Buell Wesley Frazier to sign a confession against his will, and when he refused, there was nearly a fistfight.

I see.

Yeah, I just got done watching Errol Morris' "The Thin Blue Line" recently and was thinking the whole time, man, if Dallas police were this cold-hearted talking about a seemingly innocent man in 1988, just how bloodthirsty were they in 1963? 

24 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

We're on the same page @Robert Montenegro: you've not listed a single Cuban-born participant that I can see.

I see.

34 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

If so, did those same agency misleaders also concoct the Lafitte datebook and leave the Cubans out of it in some bizarrely complicated scheme to deflect?  And then sit and wait for Hank to find his way to Lafitte's doorstep in the late '90s where he was handed the misleading datebook?

At the expense of sounding like a horse's ass, Leslie, but the Lafitte datebook mentions several commanders of the anti-Castro operations, by name, as criminal co-conspirators, no?

William King Harvey (Chief of Task Force W & CIA liaison to Operation MONGOOSE)

COL. Samuel Goodhue Kail (commander, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station & commander, CIA Cuban Operations, Joint Support Group, US Army Element—Region II, 4th US Army Operations Group—US Army Assistant Chief of Staff, Intelligence, Pentagon)

William Wayne Dalzell (founder, Radio Cuba Libre, Pan-American Radio Inc. & co-founder of Friends of Democratic Cuba)

John Wilson-Hudson (co-founder, Friends of Democratic Cuba & commander of "Amerikadeutscher Bund," South American branch)

COL. Joseph Young "Cactus Jack" Canon (US military intelligence infiltrator of Movimiento 26 de julio)

Gen. George Henry Decker (deputy commander of Phase II, Operation MONGOOSE & commander of Special Action Force, Latin America - 8th Special Forces Group in the Canal Zone)

“Jerry Droller” AKA “Frank Bender” AKA “Gerald Drecher" AKA "Wallace A. Parlett" AKA "Mr. B" AKA "Don Federico"  (CIA Cuban Political Action Chief, Western Hemisphere Division & founder of Frente Revolucionario Democrático)

Maj. Gen. Mitchell Livingston WerBell III “AMBOAR” (CIA Technical Services Division contractor/ anti-Castro Cuban commando trainer)

Robert Emmett Johnson (security advisor, Servicio de Inteligencia Militar, Dominican Republic/ special agent, International Services of Information Foundation, Inc./ commander, Intercontinental Penetration Force)

Uhm, correct me if I missed anybody.

Certainly I don't want to sound obtuse, but, you pretty much have all of the important anti-Castro covert action officers all mentioned in the Lafitte datebook.

I don't understand your argument.

You're saying all of the important anti-Castro commanders were involved in murdering President Kennedy, but they didn't trust their own subordinates?

31 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

a local sleazy strip joint owner who easily defeated the DPD security to do what he did?

The most negligent action failure in American police force history.

And ignoring warnings by even members of the DPD to move Oswald at night without broadcasting a daylight transfer just adds to the monstruous failure.

Technically, legally, Oswald's wife and children should have been compensated for the DPD's absolute worst case negligence in American history which caused the death of an untried suspect in their custody.

Jack Ruby didn't just bypass and defeat the Dallas Police Department, Mr. Bauer, but a phalanx of Dallas Police, State Police, Texas Rangers, Reserve United States Army Intelligence officers, FBI Special Agents, Federal Bureau of Narcotics assets, US Secret Service Agents, ATF Agents and liaison plain-clothes Dallas Courthouse officers.

Hell, Mr. Oswald had ten times more officers of the law physically surrounding him in the minutes leading up to his public execution than President Kennedy had in the damned motorcade!

I have actually asked this of Mr. Simpich, why don't you point the power of the Mary Ferrell Foundation, all of it's resources and documents, and defend the Oswald family against the Dallas Police Department?

Without getting into too much detail of a private conversation, Bill pretty much told me it would be a solid case against DPD if it were wrongful death, or mishandling of evidence or violations of Mr. Oswald's civil rights.

But I believe, if I remember correctly, that Bill Simpich said that the Oswald family would have to initiate the proceedings, and they have given strong indications that they are afraid for their lives, even to this day.

Of course, I will stress, that the Warren Commission had no legal precedent, and therefore, no conclusion it drew about Mr. Oswald could be used in a court proceeding, so that's disturbing.  

3 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Is it possible THE Cubans and Castro were patsies? is it possible THE C.I.A. writ large was the patsy?

On a cultural-psychological level, yes, the anti-Castro Cubans and CIA as a structural organization are patsies.

However, a certain, small group of agency officials used the byzantine mechanisms of CIA to murder President Kennedy—just as certain leaders of the anti-Castro element weaponized the dizzying phalanx of competing anti-Castro organizations to maneuver mechanics in and out of the kill zone that was Dealey Plaza, using the same gunrunning and narcoterrorist ratlines that were utilized for targeting Cuba.

11 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Joe,

Please lay off of Robert.

It's not a big deal if some other researcher first discovered what Robert did. What's important is that we have people like him looking. And it's important the we have a messenger for things that are found. My hats off to him as it is to every serious researcher.

Robert, keep up the good work. My congratulations on another good find!

 

9 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Thanks for the biography on WIROGUE-1. 

And for your fascinating version of the JFKA. 

I look forward to further posts from you. 

Stay cool. I think the kinks are being worked out of the EF-JFKA. 

7 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

On a personal note I want to say that I appreciate your own document contributions to the Forum. There are many others too who contribute in that way, and I admit I am not among that august group of intrepid document researchers. It’s difficult time consuming work. The best possible outcome is for researchers to seek to complement the work of others, to refine the careful reading of documents, no easy task. 

7 hours ago, David McLean said:

In support of RM’s revelatory research, and his rage at the implications,we as a community are entering into the grief process again and it hurts. JFK is dead we know that, but how, why and by whom? If Albarelli and Co are on the right track, many myself included are in a state almost of denial, RM is justifiably enraged, as was John Loftus, Peter Levenda, before him and Mae Brussell early on. And Phillip K Dick too.
But Kennedy? 
What sort of world do we live in, have we been dreaming, that the good guys won way back then?

 

3 hours ago, Mark Knight said:

My PERSONAL take on RM's post here is simple. The information, as released, is like a 2,000-page bill before Congress. RM is reporting what's actually IN the bill.

And I consider that a HIGHLY valuable service.

Thank you gentlemen, for your kind words of encouragement.

Now, I'd like to present follow-up documents, especially now the the ban on the word Nazi has been nullified.  

3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

I happily stand advised and enlightened by your posts RM, all of which continue to impress---no, amaze---me. 

I am standing here, hats off. 

I certainly do not rule out a Teutonic connection to the JFKA. 

Your report on Klaus Barbie to too depressing to even contemplate. I never knew that The Butcher of Lyon was on US payrolls. 

I will admit to a pet theory, and please treat me gently on this:

Eladio Del Valle and Hermininio Diaz traveled to Dallas, and were introduced to LHO, likely by a higher-up (or given a code word or half of dollar bill). The pair piggy-backed on an existing false flag op, planned as a missed assassination attempt on JFK, but to be blamed on Castro. They shot for real. 

Thus, the Walker shooting was prequel planned miss, to test LHO's resolve in shooting at but missing a well-known public figure. LHO passed the test. 

I tend to favor JFKA conspiracies with very few witting participants, as in three or less. Complicity was rife afterwards. 

My pet theory does not rule out that the higher-up, who linked LHO to the pair of Cubans, was someone with Teutonic connections inside the CIA or other intel agency. 

Well, that is my pet theory.

You can (put on your kid gloves and) reply.

 

Once again, I would stress, this is post about a WIROGUE-1 bio, that has been sidelined by the titans of the research community.

But since you asked, a few personal, highly-simplified thoughts:

Mr. Oswald was acting in the capacity of a COINTELPRO informant, infiltrating both left and right-wing organizations that were considered counter to the United States government.

The right-wing organizations were involved in violations of the Neutrality Acts of the 1930s (primarily right-wing organizations that were involved in gunrunning, narcoterrorism, and illegal hit-and-run raids against Cuba), which explains Mr. Oswald's reporting to James Patrick Hosty Jr., who was literally tasked by FBI HQ to run long-range, studies and observations against right-wing organizations.

Some of these right-wing organizations that Mr. Oswald infiltrated and reported on were being sponsored by Mafia and CIA elements at JMWAVE (like Legión Extranjera Anticomunista del Caribe, Cuban Revolutionary Council, Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front, Friends of Democratic Cuba, Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil, etc.).  

Somewhere along the line, in his capacity infiltrating leftist organizations (like Congress of Racial Equality, Fair Play for Cuba Committee, New Orleans Committee for Peaceful Alternative, Dallas G.I. Forum, etc.), fascist paramilitary types (my money goes with a clique that included Sergio Arcacha-Smith, John Wilson-Hudson, COL. Samuel Goodhue Kail, LCDR Harold 'Hal' Feeney, COL. Orlando Eleno Piedra Negueruela, David “El Indio” Sánchez Morales, COL. Charles A. Waters Jr., William Wayne Dalzell, & William Guy Banister), piggy-backed Mr. Oswald's legitimate function as an informant to an element the intelligence community—to being a patsy for the shooter teams in Dallas—by utilizing Mr. Oswald's infiltration of left-wing organizations for a completely different, uninitiated element of the intelligence community, as a counter-narrative stratagem (in all likelihood, that element of the intelligence community that was receiving Mr. Oswald's agent provocateur reports, was a domestic military intelligence command structure called "4th US Army Operations Group, Region II Command," and the unit that housed those documents was the "112th Military Intelligence Group").

In that shanghaiing of a real Cold War domestic provocateur, which is what Mr. Oswald was from his days in the United States Marine Corps, I have to stress that I believe the Maj. Gen. Edwin Anderson Walker shooting physically had nothing to do with Mr. Oswald.   

Remember, the story that Mr. Oswald fired upon Gen. Walker, was fed to him from feelers working for a neo-fascist newspaper called "Deutsche National-Zeitung und Soldaten-Zeitung."

In short, the shooting of Maj. Gen. Walker—never actually happened.

It was a false-flag narrative.

And you gotta love that narrative, Mr. Oswald misses a stationary Maj. Gen. Walker from less than thirty feet, but scores fatal wounds on President Kennedy (from the high-rear, low-front, and parallel-oblique, no less), who was moving upwards of five to ten miles an hour, from two-hundred fifty feet away?!

Pure phantasy. 

As for Eladio Ceferino del Valle Gutierrez “Yito” and Sandalio Herminio Díaz García, well, in the spirit of all of this speculation on my part, I think they were members of a fireteam that was acting in support of four other two man shooter teams—that is to say, five, two man shooter teams, one primary shooter and a back-up, firing from overlapping fields of fire. 

My own personal, unverified theory goes something like this:

• Robert Emmett Johnson (security advisor, Servicio de Inteligencia Militar, Dominican Republic/ special agent, International Services of Information Foundation, Inc./ Intercontinental Penetration Force) --- Hollowed-out trunk of station wagon (across the street from the grassy knoll; parked backwards on the left side of road) --- (“Remington XP-100” rifle w/ “.221 Remington Fireball” ammo).

• COL. Charles “Boots” Askins Jr. [US Military Attaché, Madrid, Spain/ Special Agent, US Border Patrol/ CIA Counter Intelligence Staff, Police Group (CI/PG)—International Cooperation Administration—Office of Public Safety, Saigon] --- Manhole/ Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (modified “ArmaLite AR-10 Project SALVO Special Purpose Individual Weapon” carbine-electromagnetic dart launcher w/ “poison-filled epoxy-tipped ice flechette” ammo).

• Frank Angelo Fiorini AKA Frank Anthony Sturgis (Operación 40 assassin/ Chicago Junta) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “Fallschirmjägergewehr 42 Type G” automatic rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

• Capt. Jean-René Marie Souètre (Organisation de l'Armée Secrète commander) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter --- (“De Lisle Commando” carbine paratrooper stock w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

• Sandalio Herminio Díaz García (Operación 40 assassin/ bodyguard for Santo Trafficante Jr.) --- School Book Depository Shooter --- (modified “M1” carbine rechambered to “9mm” ammo).

• COL. Joseph Young "Cactus Jack" Canon (Katō Kikan commander/ Canon Kikan AKA "Z-Unit"/ commander, Field Operations Intelligence/ commander, "Kontrgerilla" Turkish stay-behind units) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“FAL 50.63 PARA 2” battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

• Loran Eugene Hall Sr. (International Anti-Communist Brigade/ American Committee To Free Cuba/ Minutemen) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“ArmaLite AR-15 Model 01” assault rifle w/ .223 ammo).

• Nestor Antonio “Tony” Izquierdo (Office of Naval Intelligence asset/ Operation PATTY commando) --- Dal-Tex Shooter --- (“HK G3A3” 1963 bipod version battle rifle w/ “.22 caliber” sabot ammo).

• Maj. Lauri Allan Törni (Finnisches Freiwilligen-Bataillon der Waffen-SS/ commander, Detachment Törni/ Military Assistance Advisory Group, Iran/ US Army, 6th Special Forces Group, CONUS) --- Storm Drain Shooter --- (suppressed, OSS-model “M3 Greaser” submachine gun w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

• Maj. Gen. Mitchell Livingston WerBell III “AMBOAR” (Office of Strategic Services, Detachment 101/ founder, Studies In the Operational Negation of Insurgents and Counter-Subversion/ contractor, CIA Technical Services Division) --- Grassy Knoll Shooter (adjacent & above storm drain) --- (suppressed, first-generation experimental “Military Armament Corporation Model 10” machine pistol w/ subsonic “.45 ACP” ammo).

I will stress once again, the above information is a personal musing, and has nothing to do with the purpose of this post, which was examining the CIA biography of WIROGUE-1. 

2 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

So not foreign operatives in the US but covers for US operations overseas ie Domestic Operations.  In Shadow warfare I write about Barnes and Bissell being involved in that sort of thing during the fifties.

Utterly fascinating insight, Mr. Hancock, that makes sense.

On a personal note, "Shadow Warfare: The History of America's Undeclared Wars" is must read and a constant reference point for me.

Deputy Director for Plans Richard M. Bissell Jr. and the Fortune 500 companies of the 1950's were intrinsic to each other...

20 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

For Pete's sake, Mr. Knight, you literally gave me advisement that I could rejoin this forum as long as I recognized the rules and remained civil.

How can I do that, when I have someone like Joe Backes jumping down my throat.

If the factual information I am posting is inconvenient to a certain narrative, please, just be straight with me. 

If not, then please, get the guy off my back.

This is really embarrassing.

11 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Robert seems to think everyone needs to kiss his butt for some reason and or was part of sending him off this forum.  No, and no.

I've heard of Gehlen before.  I've heard of the National Socialist connection before.  

When you say you're posting something brand new that has never been posted before, and that's easily shown to not be true does he think no one is going to notice?

And when he tries to tell me how Archives II works? That's adorable. 

Do you have anything to say about the material content of the damn document?

If not, shove off.

Once again, I don't need affirmation or a pair lips pressed against my ass.

Now please, move on.

2 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

 I’d rather discuss how much of a revelation docs like the WIROGUE ones might be, or what the significance or relation to other ops or operatives, than whether Robert deserves more or less credit for posting it.

Can I get an Amen?!

37 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

We should not rule out the possibility that the JFKA was perped by CIA-asset Cuban exiles and related mercs, perhaps operating independently or under advice of a lone higher-up.

Mr. Cole, I would stress that David “El Indio” Sánchez Morales AKA Stanley R. Zamka had the following responsibilities at JMWAVE in 1963:

• Chief of Foreign Intelligence, CIA Counterintelligence Staff, Western Hemisphere Division
• Cuban Operations/ CIA liaison, Caribbean Admissions Center, Opa-Locka Air Station
• Commander, JMDUSK (security branch, JMWAVE)
• Commander AMOT (anti-Castro Cuban intelligence branch)
• Commander Operation 40 (anti-Castro Cuban intelligence branch)
• JMWAVE Chief of Covert Action
• JMWAVE Chief of Counterintelligence
• Commander AMFAST (anti-Castro Cuban counterintelligence branch)

But David Sánchez Morales was also a Gehlen Organization operative when he was sheep-dipped from US Army Counterintelligence Corps to CIA in 1949.

David Sánchez Morales was also in-charge of anti-Castro Cuban operatives that were fighting in the Congo against Comandante Ernesto "Che " Guevara.

David Sánchez Morales would later hunt, capture, torture and murder "Che" Guevara in Bolivia—where Morales, and one of his AMFAST officers, Félix Ismael “El Gato” Rodríguez Mendigutia (cryptonym "AMJOKE-1"), activated one of his old buddies from his US Army Counterintelligence Corps/Gehlen Org days:

SS-Hauptsturmführer Nikolaus "Klaus" Barbie (Gehlen Org cryptonym "ADLER"), the mass-murdering commander of the Gestapo in Lyon, France.

Before Barbie was CIA, he was US Army Counterintelligence Corps, just like Morales.

You see, I find it hard to separate the phenomenon of  intelligence in CIA and anti-Castro Cubans at JMWAVE from the murder of JFK, when the overlap so seamlessly with someone like David Sánchez Morales.   

4 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Wow, you got quite the chip on your shoulder. 

Yes, I do have a chip on my shoulder, and I named it "...Joe..."

I've also got a monkey on my back, it's called "...two combat tours to Afghanistan..."

ARE WE HAVING FUN YET?!

FYI: I don't need any applause or validation, I was simply stating facts. 

5 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Anyone doing research in primary docs, and bringing those docs to light, deserves a hat tip from the rest of us. 

I am fascinated by RM's work. 

If there are differing interpretations of those docs, done in a civil and couth manner, I am sure RM is willing to discuss nuances. 

 

 

 

Thank you Mr. Cole, and yes, I am more than willing to go toe-to-toe in a civil debate with a real researcher, and not someone trying to get my goat.

12 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Great stuff Robert. 

WIROGUE is important, and his true name is news to me. It looks like his official bio was whitewashed to make him look like an enemy of the German State, hardly surprising given the origin of the documents.

Thank you Paul, for your kind words.

And yes, a complete whitewash of WIROGUE-1's bio has taken place, though, for the life of me, I cannot explain why.

I even brought this information to the attention of Jefferson Morley, and he just smiled the biggest grin at me and didn't have anything to say.

I should note, I removed the Frank Bender information, because the syntax made no sense, not being able to use the word  in it's proper historical context.

I should also note, that this document (that Mr. Backes so astutely pointed out is on Mary Ferrell 👏), was utilized in the 2021 book, "White Malice: The CIA and the Covert Recolonization of Africa," by Susan Williams:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/White_Malice/7zUNEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=104-10182-10052

Yet, in an over 600 page book, she too, like the administrators at Mary Ferrell, makes no mention of WIROGUE-1's  past, or WIROGUE-1's relationship with the Gehlen Organization.

Strange, no?

It's almost like the very mention of a certain historical fascist political organization is being suppressed.

FYI: Don't blame me, I'm just the whippin' boy...

40 minutes ago, Joseph Backes said:

Well, yes and no.

More like no, Joe.

Do you see any of this information posted on Mary Ferrell.

You don't.

In the intelligence world, that is called "...narrative control..." or in a murder case, "...suppression of evidence..." 

And for your own edification, I brought this information to Mr. Simpich over two years ago and he totally ghosted me—giving me his assurance he would post it, but all he did was post the document, without explaining what was in it (I should note, I have nothing but respect for Bill Simpich and I think he is a true American patriot).

Perhaps you should get the full story before putting dedicated fact-finders like me on blast...

...or maybe just say thank you for the free information, AND MOVE ON!