Bill Brown

Some (John Armstrong) claim that Oswald, when arrested, had two torn halves of dollar bills on him. They claim this was so that he could identify himself to his handler at the theater, Oswald has one half of a torn dollar bill and the handler has the other half (why was Oswald waiting for a northbound bus if the prearranged meeting with the handler was inside the theater directly south, anyway?). Oswald did not have torn pieces of dollar bills on him. Oswald had eight $1 bills in his wallet when he was arrested. None of the eight were torn in half. These eight bills were inventoried (according to serial number, see CE-1149). Armstrong has even backed off from that claim and now believes that the two halves were found at the rooming house on Saturday the 23rd. If there were two halves of torn dollar bills among Oswald's possessions at the rooming house, below is a reasonable explanation (at least, it should be considered): J. Edgar Hoover, Masters of Deceit,1958: "To join the Communist Party does not automatically mean life tenure. Memberships must be renewed every year or, in communist language, members are "reregistered. This represents another means of control. If a member is delinquent in dues or donations, he'll have to pay a penalty, perhaps contribute ten dollars, or be disciplined. These annual registration drives are important events in Party life. Each member is personally contacted. Clubs and sections compete for speed and percentage of successful registration. The drives usually start in October and often extend well past the December 31 deadline. A member moves. His district organization will send details concerning him to his new area: name, Party history, whether dues are paid, along with any other remarks. A member may be given half of a dollar bill and the other half forwarded to the new district. When the member arrives, the halves are matched. Identity is thus established."

"Now that we're certain Oswald's role in Otto Skorzeny's strategy to assassinate Kennedy in Dallas was that of the designated patsy just as he insisted..." "I'M JUST A PATSY" You have to look at the patsy statement in it's entirety. "They have taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy." -- Lee Oswald Oswald is clearly claiming that the Dallas Police Department is picking on him because he once tried to defect to Russia. He is not saying anything about mythical conspirators who are attempting to frame him for the assassination.

Q: Mr. Frazier, have you been in the Armed Services of the United States? A: Yes, sir, I have. Q: What branch of the Service? A: Army. Q: Were you in the Infantry? A: Yes, sir, I have had Infantry training. Q: Did you have any rifle training? A: Yes, sir, I did. Q: During the course of that training did you ever have occasion to break a rifle down? A: Yes, sir, quite frequently. Q: What kind of rifle did you use in the Service? A: An M14. Q: Approximately how long was the M14 that you used? A: I believe the correct length is 30 some odd inches long. Q: 30 something inches long? A: Yes. Q: Did you ever break that rifle down? A: Yes, sir, I broke it down many times. Buell Frazier's M14 was just over 44 inches long.

I can address every point you raise in your above post just as soon as you tell me whether or not you believe Oswald carried his lunch into the building tucked up underneath his armpit. Gil Jesus foolishly said: "I don't have a problem with Oswald using a 27 inch paper bag for his lunch if that was the only size bag available from the Paine home."

"If the brown paper bag was used to carry the Carcano, it is odd that no traces of oil were found on it, since the rifle was well oiled when it was discovered. In fact, when the Carcano was examined by the FBI the day after the shooting, oil was found on surface of the rifle. Yet, not only did the bag contain no oil traces, but it showed no creases that matched the outline of the alleged murder weapon (68:66)." Oil was not found on the surface of the rifle. Your source is faulty. Typical.

"Marinas fairy-tale about Ossi with the rifle on the porch in front of his apartment in NOLA..." You guys crack me up. You criticize while being unaware of even the smallest details. For example, the porch was not a "front porch". The apartment's porch was on the side of the building and toward the back. It is entirely possible that Oswald could have practiced dry-firing that rifle without being seen by others. Learn the evidence; it's a credibility thing.

Michael Griffith said: " If the brown paper bag was used to carry the Carcano, it is odd that no traces of oil were found on it, since the rifle was well oiled when it was discovered." See? Told ya. Predictable. Why would oil be expected to be on the bag just because the inner workings of the rifle were well-oiled?

Now cue the tired argument that the testimonial record states that the inner workings of the rifle was well-oiled and this somehow means that oil should have been all over the bag.

"You don't know that Oswald carried the bag tucked under his armpit. You are taking Frazier's word for this and are rejecting Dougherty's clear, adamant recollection that Oswald had nothing in his hands when he entered the TSBD." Dougherty has absolutely nothing to do with how Oswald may have been carrying the package from Frazier's car to the back entrance on the loading dock. "And if the paper bag in evidence is the one Oswald carried, and if Oswald carried the disassembled Carcano in that bag, why was there not one speck of oil in/on the bag?" Nonsense. Why would oil be expected to be in or on the bag just because a rifle was carried inside it?

This needs to be addressed.

-- The jacket/coat that Oswald is wearing in the black and white Minsk photo has a hole in the elbow of the right sleeve and must be gray (as opposed to blue or any other color). It very likely is Oswald's gray jacket because it agrees so well in description with Buell Wesley Frazier's description of Oswald's gray jacket. And, because Oswald had a gray jacket in Minsk according to Marina, and the jacket in the Minsk photo is not the blue CE 163, and the only jackets Marina said Oswald had in Minsk were the gray and the blue. Only two jackets? You do realize that Oswald is seen in another USSR photo wearing a long coat. Right?

To buy into the premise of Greg Doudna's 117 page "paper", as well as the arguments he has made in this thread, one must accept ALL of the following.... -- Linnie Mae Randle was wrong when she identified CE-163 as the jacket/coat that Oswald was wearing when she saw him that morning. -- Oswald wears a coat from the Depository to Beckley, discarding the coat after exiting Whaley's cab. -- Mrs. Reid was wrong when she stated that she saw Oswald on the 2nd floor (basically on his way out of the building) with no jacket. -- Mary Bledsoe was wrong (or lying) when she stated that Oswald was not wearing a jacket when she saw him on the McWatters bus. Bledsoe said Oswald's shirt was tucked in. One does not tuck in his jacket. -- William Whaley, on 11/23/63, was able to describe, in detail, the shirt Oswald was wearing and made no mention of any jacket even though Oswald was wearing a jacket in the cab. -- For some unknown reason, Oswald discards the jacket he is wearing after exiting Whaley's cab and before entering the rooming house on Beckley. -- Johnny Brewer was wrong when he states that the man he saw step into the foyer/entrance of Hardy's Shoes was Lee Oswald. -- Oswald wore his coat, CE-163, into the Texas Theater and, in an attempt to help frame the patsy, it was later planted inside the Domino Room at the Depository, to be found three weeks after the assassination. -- The manner decided upon in which Oswald was to meet his handler (a person apparently unknown to Oswald) at the theater was to sit beside each random theater patron until he (Oswald) eventually sat beside the handler. How these two identified each other is unknown. -- The jacket/coat that Oswald is wearing in the black and white Minsk photo has a hole in the elbow of the right sleeve and must be gray (as opposed to blue or any other color).

Great article by Steve Roe. The erroneous claim by Cole that a Dallas Police report stated that the bullet was a 30.06 has not been corrected in the original article. As pointed out by Roe, the slug isn't called a 30.06 in any police report so why not correct the error in Cole's original article?

How about Oswald tucking his lunch up underneath his armpit as he walked toward work that morning? That's perfectly normal to you?

"I don't have a problem with Oswald using a 27 inch paper bag for his lunch if that was the only size bag available from the Paine home." But... do you have a problem with Oswald carrying his lunch in that 27 inch bag tucked up underneath his armpit?

Linnie Mae Randle has Oswald wearing 163, the jacket/coat found in the Depository a couple weeks later. Now, she can be wrong; but so can Frazier.

There is no real reason to believe that Oswald would ditch a jacket between exiting Whaley's cab and entering the rooming house. Greg Doudna wants to believe Oswald was wearing a jacket on the McWatters bus and the Whaley cab but he knows Oswald entered the rooming house with no jacket. This is a problem for Greg and his entire 117 page scenario, so what does he do? Simple conclusion. Just have Oswald throwing his jacket away after getting out of the cab and before waking in the house. This is a perfect example of one having a pet theory all set up and then dismissing the inconvenient evidence which would destroy the pet theory. Dismiss the known evidence by having the patsy dismiss the jacket on Beckley.

"The gray jacket of Oswald itself was old and had at least one hole in the right elbow, likely in worse shape than when it was photographed in Minsk from use since then. Therefore it was no great loss that Oswald would toss it, dispose of it, as the evidence indicates Oswald did at some point after leaving Whaley’s cab on N. Beckley but before he entered the rooming house several blocks north on Beckley." Again, there is nothing which should lead anyone to conclude that Oswald was wearing his gray jacket on the bus (when seen by Bledsoe) and the cab driven by Whaley. Whaley, on the 23rd, described Oswald's shirt and made no mention of any jacket.

"The 'shirt' description attributed to Whaley in the FBI interview is hardly different from the 'shirt' Mary Bledsoe saw, in both cases actually Oswald’s gray jacket." Pure nonsense.

Except you cannot possibly say with any certainty what color that Minsk jacket is. It could be dark blue.

I get your point. However... Marina's identification isn't questionable. She was directly asked if 162 belonged to Lee and she said that it did. But, even if she was wrong and 162 wasn't Lee's, it resembled a jacket closely enough that Marina was able to mistake it for one of Lee's. Therefore, Lee, whether it was 162 or not, owned a lightweight jacket. Putting that aside, do you seriously believe that Lee would own just two jackets/coats and neither of them would be a lightweight jacket? I mean, you're trying to tell me that Lee owned just two and both were of the more medium-duty to heavy-duty type? Come on, Greg. Oswald owned a lightweight jacket. I want to add (again)... William Whaley, on the day after the assassination, described Oswald's shirt in detail and made no mention of any jacket/coat worn by Oswald in the cab ride over to Beckley. Earlene Roberts, who you rely on heavily to support your idea that Oswald left the rooming house in a coat instead of a jacket, has Oswald arriving at the house in only his shirt. She specifically stated that he wasn't wearing a coat/jacket when he arrived, that he was in his "shirt sleeves" (meaning shirt only, no jacket/coat).

My point is... You are trying to pass off the jacket/coat that Oswald is wearing in the Minsk photo as one that could possibly be mistaken for (or is similar to) the jacket that Tippit's killer was wearing. What Oswald is wearing in the Minsk photo is clearly a more heavy-duty type of jacket/coat than one along the lines of CE-162 as well as Oswald's more lightweight jacket. You have to have Oswald (in the Minsk photo) wearing his more lightweight jacket (of the two he owned) for your entire theory to fit. This is because you have Oswald on the bus in the more lightweight jacket (of the two he owned) supposedly with a hole in the elbow. The Minsk jacket/coat is NOT a lightweight jacket which could be mistaken for 162. The Minsk jacket/coat is not a lightweight jacket similar to the one worn by Tippit's killer. Your point (that Bledsoe saw Oswald on the bus in the lightweight jacket and it had a hole in the elbow) is simply invalid. Your point that Oswald left the Depository building in the lightweight jacket is invalid. Not to mention, Earlene Roberts has Oswald entering the rooming house with no jacket/coat at all. William Whaley, on the 23rd, described what Oswald was wearing in his cab and made no mention of any jacket/coat; even going as far as describing the shirt Oswald was wearing.

Okay. Progress. And you also have Oswald in the Minsk photo in this more lightweight jacket of the two owned by Oswald. Right? The one which you claim has a hole in the elbow. Right?

I'm getting there. Now, you have Mary Bledsoe seeing Oswald on the bus in the more lightweight jacket of the two owned by Oswald. Right?

So then, of Oswald's two jackets, you have him leaving the Depository in the one which is more lightweight. Right?