Bill Brown

No Sir. If Ruby really did call the police station, then Grammer would be called in to testify about what he knows personally, that Jack Ruby called him at the police station the night before Oswald was killed.

"He [Johnny Brewer] couldn't see the ticket booth." More nonsense (sorry, I call it how I see it). Brewer didn't say that he could see the ticket booth. He said that the ticket booth was flush with the other store fronts which lined the sidewalk and this location would allow him to see anyone who was at the front of the booth purchasing the ticket. Seriously Ron, go research before you post. This is getting old.

2003 called and it wants it's JFK assassination research back. Even John Armstrong (the source of the original erroneous torn dollar bill claim) doesn't believe that anymore; i.e. he has backed off of his mistaken claim. You should, too.

You don't really believe any of that, do you? I'm familiar with the Grammer claim and none of that answered my question. Grammer and his supervisor prepared a sworn affidavit in which Grammer identified Ruby as the caller that very night? I call bullsh*t on that one. During Ruby's trial, Bill Alexander (and in effect, Henry Wade) were trying to prove that Ruby murdered Oswald with malice and forethought. They wanted the death penalty. If Ruby really did make that phone call and Grammer really did recognize that it was Ruby, then Grammer would have been their star witness during Ruby's trial since he (Grammer) would have been the perfect witness to prove malice and forethought on Ruby's part. Despite this, we do not hear from Grammer until 1988 in The Men Who Killed Kennedy.

This is the first portion of a debate I did with Matt Douthit a couple years ago. More to come. https://www.spreaker.com/user/4798726/mysteries-in-the-music-case-closed

"You ignore the fact that the officer on dispatch duty the night before, Billy Grammer, said that a man who sounded like Ruby called the DPD, that the man knew about the actual time that Oswald would be transferred, and that the man warned that the police needed to change the transfer plan or else Oswald would be killed." And when exactly is it that you believe we first hear of this story from Grammer?

Sadly, you don't know what you are talking about. You are saying that Bowley was driving west on 10th, drove past the patrol car, drove past the body lying in the street, and then continued on through the intersection of 10th and Patton and parked on the 300 block of East 10th which would be one block west of the shooting scene. That is pure nonsense. This is not "hijacking". It applies to this thread. It shows that you make up scenarios without knowing the evidence; exactly as you've done with Callaway. The reality is that Bowley stopped his car BEFORE ever getting all the way to the patrol car and the body lying in the street. The "100 yards" is debatable but regardless of that, it's referring to 100 yards east of the patrol car.

Yes, you. On page 3 of the thread POLICE CAR IN THE ALLEY? NOPE, describing Bowley's actions, you said: "There were exactly two houses between Tippit's body & the corner. The 100 yard distance described in Moriarty's HSCA report put Bowley in the 300 block of E. 10th. Nothing prevented him from proceeding through the intersection, consistent with his desire to protect his daughter from an ugly sight."

"What this means is many saw him on the west side of Patton north of the alley, but no one claimed to see him on the west side of Patton between the alley & Jefferson with the exception of Callaway." So now what?

Also, aren't you the same guy who mistakenly believed that T.F. Bowley drove past Tippit's body before getting out and going to the scene? You don't know the case and here you are trying to create these B.S. scenarios. Go back and learn the evidence first.

What are you going on about? Callaway said the gunman crossed from the east side over to the west side of Patton south of Scoggins' cab.

To me, this is pretty simple. Connally heard the first shot and assumed it hit the President, a reasonable assumption, though incorrect. He knew he himself was not hit by this shot. Therefore he believed, at least for a time, that they were hit by two different bullets.

The bottom line is you said that no one corroborated Ted Calloway's version that the gunman fled the full length of Patton all the way down to Jefferson. You were wrong about this. Know the evidence before you attempt to criticize.

Mr. Bulman, do you finally accept the reality that, on the day of the assassination, the Texas Theater ticket booth was separated from the building and therefore you were wrong to claim that Johnny Brewer was not being honest?

No. You have to take Oswald's statement in its totality. "They're taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy." He was blaming the Dallas Police Department of picking on him because he once went to Russia. He's not talking about dark, mysterious conspirators setting him up.

No. The ticket booth has not been there since 1931. As a matter of fact, if you would actually go visit Dallas instead of just being an internet jockey, you would see markings in front of the Texas theater out by the sidewalk where the ticket booth once stood. Putting it clearly, you have no clue what you're talking about.

Warren Reynolds, Pat Patterson, Harold Russell and LJ Lewis all saw the fleeing gunman come all the way down Patton and head West on Jefferson. Jimmy Burt and Bill Smith saw the killer in the alley behind the Texaco station, almost all the way to Crawford, one block west of Patton. Jimmy Burt and Bill Smith were friends with James Markham, Helen Markham's son. No doubt Jimmy Burt and Bill Smith believed the killer fled west through the alley once he got halfway down Patton; a logical assumption, though incorrect. No doubt Burt and Smith told their story of the events that day to friends in the following weeks and months. In my opinion, James Markham heard their version of the story and therefore he believed the killer fled through the alley. No doubt, he tells his mother this and Helen Markham repeats it as fact. This is all logical if you have the ability to think critically. Sadly, Michael Kalin is using witness statements to create a scenario even though he is not aware of the full list of witnesses (Reynolds, Patterson, Russell, Lewis).

In 1963, the ticket booth was separated from the building and was out toward the sidewalk. I'm not sure how many times I'm going to have to spell this out to you. You can lead a horse to water...

"If Oswald really was guilty of shooting the President then why 60 years later are the Government's agencies still refusing to release documents and failing to comply with the law?" Do you know what's in the unreleased documents? If you answer No, then how can you know the reason why these particular documents have not been released?

And you really believe that is where the ticket booth was located on the day of the assassination?

Instead of copying and pasting.... how about you just spell it out right here, in your own words, what it is that you're trying to say?

Scoggins saw the killer flee down Patton first on the east side (naturally) and then the killer crossed to the west side of the street. So what?

"YET ANOTHER Swing-and-a-miss from my favorite Lone Nut Supporter on ignore... you can go back to napping old man... don't hurt yourself" I see you still haven't grown up.