Bill Brown

Probably much less than a full minute.

There was definitely an encounter between Baker and Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom. I'm saying that Baker never said Oswald had a Coke in his hands during this encounter. Oswald, now realizing he was seen in the lunchroom, decided to give himself a reason for being there (an excuse, in case it came up later?) so he bought a Coke once Baker left him. Knowing that Oswald was seen by Mrs. Reid with a Coke as he made his way out of the building, Agent Burnett included the Coke in the statement that he wrote for Baker to sign. Baker, knowing Oswald had nothing in his hands when he encountered Oswald in the lunchroom, crossed out mention of the Coke and then signed the statement. Point being, David Josephs makes a big deal out of the penmanship of the two "Marrion L. Baker" writings. Sadly for Josephs, there is nothing to see here. The first "Marrion L. Baker" was written by Burnett, who wrote the entire statement. The second "Marrion L. Baker" (the one at the bottom of the document) is Baker's signature. Since one was written by Burnett and the other was written by Baker, they are obviously going to be recognizably different. David Von Pein has a very good article on his blog explaining all of this in detail. http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/oswald-baker-truly-and-coca-cola.html

No one is claiming that the two "Marrion L. Baker" were both written by Baker. In fact, the document on the bottom left was written by Burnett (who also wrote Truly's statement). You're late to the party with this stuff. Baker simply signed at the bottom.

In 1967 the autopsy pathologists (Humes, Boswell, and Finck), the acting chief of radiology (Ebersole) and one of the autopsy photographers (Stringer) viewed the autopsy photographs and/or X-rays and confirmed the photos and X-rays were accurate in the portrayal of the wounds of the President. The Clark Panel studied the autopsy X-rays and photos and concluded that the head was struck only once and from above and behind. The Rockefeller Commission studied the autopsy X-rays and photos and concluded that the head was struck only once and from behind. The HSCA forensic panel studied the autopsy X-rays and photos (and interviewed the Kennedy autopsy personnel in order to verify the validity of the photos and X-rays) and concluded that the head was struck once and only from behind.

No. Oswald didn't purchase the Coke until after the encounter with Baker and Baker had left him.

James Turner (WBAP-TV Fort Worth) stated that he saw Jack Ruby walking down the Main Street ramp about ten feet from the bottom, less than a minute before Ruby shot Oswald.

Oswald jumps the shrubbery and begins to head south on Patton (on the east side of Patton). After going down Patton a bit (Scoggins' 60 feet?), Oswald notices Sam Guinyard on the sidewalk near the alley looking up at him. A little further down, Oswald also sees that Ted Callaway is out on the sidewalk, also looking up at him. Both Guinyard and Callaway are on the sidewalk on the east side of Patton. Is it really that far-fetched that Oswald went down Patton on the east side for a ways and then, before he got to the halfway point (where Guinyard was watching him), Oswald, not wanting to walk/trot right past these two men, decides to cross Patton and continues down Patton now on the west side of the street? This is exactly what happened.

Bob Jackson, Howard Brennan and Amos Euins were making up the story of seeing the weapon in the window? At that very early point in time, i.e. pretty much right away? Or... A rifle was indeed stuck out that window but was never fired but instead was meant to only simulate shots?

"If there was someone else on that 6th floor besides Oswald, of course they would plan on getting out asap via the back loading dock. They certainly wouldn't go down to the lunch room, buy a soda pop, and then continue down to the first floor and simply walk out the front door." Consider that Oswald was beginning to make his way down the stairs from the second floor to the first floor and then he heard someone coming up from the first floor. This causes Oswald to reverse direction (having not traversed very far into the stairwell between those two floors) and, with little time to do anything else, simply made a bee line to the lunchroom. In other words, I believe you're working on a false premise, i.e. Oswald was not "going down to the lunchroom". Once the encounter with Baker occurred, Oswald buys the soda (he may have to explain later why he was seen in the lunch room) and decides to leave the building via the front entrance on the first floor.

In my opinion, Oswald tightens and purses his lips upon hearing Chief Curry say "Okay men. Okay." To me, this is obvious. Curry was calling for an end to the press conference and Oswald was not ready for it to be over just yet. Oswald was not reacting to being informed that he had indeed been charged, but was reacting to Curry ending the press conference though Oswald was enjoying the attention. At the 1:58 mark, you can hear Chief Curry say "Okay men. Okay.", then a split second later, Oswald shows his disappointment. (Thanks to David Von Pein's site for the footage)

Well said and very obviously true.

You're hinting at cross-contamination. Just an FYI, the photo you posted was taken AFTER the items were examined.

I haven't read your book. In it, is Oswald placed in lineups alongside men in suits?

"They're taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy." "They" obviously refers to the Dallas Police Department.

OSWALD'S MOTIVE Oswald's motive for shooting at General Walker was the same as he had for assassinating the President. Marxism and Cuba. Oswald wanted the United States Government to keep it's hands off of Cuba. Oswald told Capt. Will Fritz that he was a Marxist, that he belonged to the Fair Play For Cuba organization and that he was in favor of Fidel Castro's revolution. Before the revolution, Castro, with his Marxist beliefs, condemned social and economic inequality in Cuba. He adopted the Marxist view that meaningful political change could only be brought about by proletariat revolution. While Castro was imprisoned for the failed attack on the Moncada Barracks in Cuba, his wife took employment with the Ministry of the Interior. Castro was enraged and insulted. His Marxist beliefs were so strong that filed for divorce. Mirta (Castro's wife) took custody of their son Fidelito. The thought of his son growing up in a bourgeois environment further enraged Castro. Oswald agreed strongly with the Marxist beliefs of Castro. During the revolution, the U.S. Government feared that Castro was a socialist. In early January of 1959, Batista was overthrown by the rebels and he fled. The revolution was a crucial turning point in relations between the U.S. and Cuba. Originally, the U.S. government was willing to recognize Castro's new government. However, the U.S. government would eventually fear that Communist insurgencies would spread through Latin America, as they had in Southeast Asia. On March 5, 1963, Major General Edwin Walker gave a speech where he called on the White House to "liquidate the (communist) scourge that has descended upon the island of Cuba." Walker was obviously referring to Fidel Castro. Oswald ordered his rifle seven days later. ============ Captain Fritz told the Warren Commission: "I got the impression that he was doing it because of his feeling about the Castro revolution, and I think that he felt, he had a lot of feeling about that revolution. I think that was the reason. I noticed another thing. I noticed a little before when Walker was shot, he had come out with some statements about Castro and about Cuba and a lot of things and if you will remember the President had some stories a few weeks before his death about Cuba and about Castro and some things, and I wondered if that didn't have some bearing. I have no way of knowing that other than just watching him and talking to him. I think it was his feeling about his belief in being a Marxist, he told me he had debated in New Orleans, and that he tried to get converts to this Fair Play for Cuba organization, so I think that was his motive. I think he was doing it because of that." ============ The image below is from the Wichita Falls Record News March 7, 1963 (Image courtesy of Dale Myers)

That's not smoke seen in the black and white film frame. The area circled is about forty feet from the fence atop the knoll. It's foolish to believe that a ball of smoke wouldn't have dissipated by this point. Also, there are color photos taken during the aftermath in Dealey Plaza which show a discoloration in the leaves in that spot on the tree (either from sunlight hitting only a portion of the tree or the leaves were a different color in that part of the tree than were other leaves).

Me personally, I've never relied on Brennan for anything other than being one of the few who saw the rifle barrel in the SE 6th floor window. As for your point above, re: the shirt, you can have it both ways here. I believe Oswald was in the T-shirt, not wearing the brown arrest shirt, during the shooting, used the brown arrest shirt (CE-150) to wipe down the rifle as he made his way across the sixth floor. This wiping down of the rifle caused a tuft of microscopic fibers to lodge in the crevice between the metal butt plate and the wooden stock. The fibers removed from this crevice were a match with test fibers removed from the shirt.

Look at Oswald's statement in it's totality. "They're taking me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy." Oswald was clearly saying, in my opinion, that the Dallas Police Department was picking on him because he once lived in Russia.

Lame. Ruby couldn't proclaim his innocence since he had just gunned down the alleged assassin in front of an entire police basement full of people (not to mention national television). So your point is pointless.

No. In saying that Curry was responsible for protecting Oswald, the Spartacus article is saying that the responsibility of protecting the accused assassin fell on the shoulders of Dallas Police Department and since Curry was the Police Chief, it was ultimately his responsibility. You're making it sound like Curry was supposed to be leading the charge of personnel involved in getting Oswald safely to the vehicle in the basement; and that is just not true.

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"The most critical point is I wonder if Bill Brown you have been getting Acquilla saying the other man (than the gunman) of her description "ran east". That unedited transcript reads: "they weren't together, they went this way from each other: the one done the shooting went this way; other went straight down past street that way." "Past" not east. I don't see Acquilla using cardinal directions elsewhere in the transcript, "past" might be more naturally expected here than "east"." Greg, in my opinion, Clemons says this: "They weren't together, they went this way from each other: the one done the shooting went this way; other went straight down Tenth street that way." If I'm right, it certainly suggests that the exchange (if you will) between the killer and the other man did NOT occur three-fourths of the way down Patton.

"Well Tatum is not a l--r for one. Surprised Myers even suggested such a thing on his recent interview." Referring to Tatum, Myers clearly said: "I'm certain he believes what he's describing is what happened."

Again, what are the "a lot of things" Myers got wrong?

Myers believes Tatum was on Tenth Street and therefore does not "suggest" Tatum was not a real witness.