Ruth Paine

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 202 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James next takes aim at the cameras that the DPD found in Ruth Paine's garage. James wishes to accuse Ruth Paine of forging not only the "Walker Note" but also the Backyard Photograph (BYP) and the photographs of Walker's house. James writes:

The official story maintains that both photos were taken with an Imperial Reflex camera. Now, during its two searches, the police confiscated three cameras...One was an American made Stereo Realist. One was a 35 mm Russian camera called a Cuera. The third was...the miniature Minox spy camera which, as we shall see, the FBI desperately wanted to go away...All three cameras produced pictures equivalent to 35 mm photos. Yet the photos in evidence were developed on 620 roll film.

The issue with the development of the film contrasted with the camera, is merely that LHO's Imperial Reflex 620 camera was simply overlooked by the DPD in their "thorough" search of Ruth Paine's home. The DPD made sure they confiscated Ruth Paine's Folk Dance LP's, of course, and her term papers from college. But they missed a few things. James refuses to believe this.

The most urgent aspect about the BYP photographs is that several experts have concluded they were retouched, that is, LHO's face was superimposed on the body of somebody else. Photoanalyst Jack White, for example, deduced that the chin, neck, shoulders, right wrist and stance of the body in the BYP were a perfect match for Roscoe White -- one of LHO's former Marine buddies.

But we don't hear about Roscoe White from James DiEugenio, who only wants to accuse Ruth Paine of a CIA plot.

The one and only one BYP photograph that Marina took was then transformed into four different Fakes, in four different poses. Three of the Fakes were found by the Warren Commission, and one was presented years later to the HSCA by the family of Roscoe White. The Warren Commission browbeat Marina Oswald until she began to doubt her own memory that she had taken one and only one BYP with LHO's Imperial Reflex camera.

Yet the existence of multiple BYP's, which were clearly Fakes according to many experts, should really focus our attention on the sophisticated photographic resources of Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, the company where LHO was working immediately before the Walker shooting. The fact that Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall fired LHO during the same month in which LHO produced the BYP and the Walker photographs (and they later told another company that they thought LHO was a Communist) should help to explain why LHO was fired. Most likely LHO was caught using company equipment for personal use -- and somebody at J-C-S saw the BYP.

But none of this is of any interest to James DiEugenio, who is intent on proving that Ruth Paine was a CIA Agent. Moving on to page 203 of James' book, we find James continuing to raise his lynch-mob as he writes:

On December 8, two weeks after the Paine household search was concluded, with three cameras already in evidence, Robert Oswald picked up a box of Oswald’s articles at Ruth Paine’s house. Inside this box was the Imperial Reflex camera, which did use 620 roll film.

Here is further evidence of the less-than-thorough job of search-and-seizure done by the DPD at the Paine household; Robert Oswald, LHO's own brother, retrieved further items, including LHO's Imperial Reflex camera. James continues:

When the policemen who searched the house were asked about this camera, four of five said they did not see it during their search. And they did recall going through many boxes. Robert kept the camera for over two months. On February 24 he turned it over to the FBI. On February 1st, Marina said the Cuera and the Stereo Realist appeared to be Oswald’s two cameras. On February 19, Marina now said she could not recognize the Stereo Realist. Then on February 25, when shown the newly retrieved Imperial Reflex, she now said it was Oswald’s.

James wants to create doubt as to LHO's ownership of the Imperial Reflex camera which was the source of the Walker house photographs and the original BYP. He wants us to think that Robert Oswald was in on Ruth Paine's plot. He wants us to think that Marina Oswald was lying about the cameras, simply because she could not remember which was which. In this way, James insinuates that both Robert and Marina Oswald were part of the CIA plot that Ruth Paine was allegedly running.

It never occurs to James that the DPD were simply inept in their search-and-seizure.

Nor does it occur to James that Marina Oswald was simply unfamiliar with cameras; she wasn't interested. Marina had babies, and her job was to care for her babies despite the harsh poverty that LHO had given her. When LHO came out of his house dressed all in black, and demanded that Marina take one (and only one) photograph of him with his weapons, he had to tell Marina how to operate this simple Imperial Reflex camera, and which button to push.

None of these facts impress James DiEugenio, who is busy accusing Ruth Paine of being a CIA Agent who framed LHO for the JFK murder, and somehow manipulated Marina and Robert Oswald, and even George and Jeanne DeM in the plot. James continues:

On August 12th, the Stereo Realist camera was finally given to Ruth Paine, who said it was hers. Apparently, she never looked for it in that entire six month time span.

Here James wishes to suggest that Ruth Paine was lying -- somehow, for some reason -- though James is completely vague about what. His insinuation will be that the Minox spy camera *must have* belonged to Ruth Paine, whom he claims was a CIA agent, and never to LHO.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited October 31, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 203 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James continues to blame Ruth Paine for the "Walker Note." It makes no difference to James that handwriting experts confirmed that LHO was the author of that note. James is ready to ignore all evidence except anything that convicts Ruth Paine of being a CIA Agent who is trying to frame LHO of the JFK murder. The "Walker Note," according to James, was only one of the tools that Ruth used to do this. James writes:

On December 4, five days after she delivered Oswald’s “Walker Note” in Marina’s book, Ruth Paine was visited by two Secret Service agents. They were returning the “Walker Note” since they thought it was from her. (Recall Marina’s grand jury testimony about the Secret Service suspecting Ruth was associated with the CIA.) Ruth said she had not seen it before.

This snippet is a factual account, but it remains incomplete. As for Marina's "grand jury testimony," that was in the Jim Garrison case, where she said the Secret Service demanded that Marina disconnect from Ruth Paine because, "she was writing letters over there." This was the Secret Service reference to the "Walker Note."

The theory of Ruth Paine forging the "Walker Note" doesn't originate with James, but with the Secret Service accusation against Ruth Paine. Yet what James neglects is the fact that the Secret Service retracted that accusation when WC handwriting experts verified that the "Walker Note" was indeed written by LHO, and was indeed stored in Marina's book by Marina herself in April 1963. But James DiEugenio refuses to retract -- and now James will add even more accusations. LHO's Mexico City trip, according to James DiEugenio, was invented by Ruth Paine. James continues:

But she now used this opportunity to give the agents even more exhibits. As in the Walker instance, these would help the FBI and Warren Commission bolster another dubious part of their case: namely that Oswald had been to Mexico City prior to returning to Dallas in early October.

Here James proposes that Ruth Paine collected a box of items -- as part of a CIA plot -- to frame LHO as having been in Mexico City and brought back by LHO during the period when Ruth and Marina had not heard from LHO for 15 days. James presents the item list:

Ruth said the following items were found in her home, more specifically in the chest of drawers used by Marina. One was a “Rules for Betting” card used at a thoroughbred racetrack. A second item was a Spanish-English dictionary with a handwritten notation “watch Jai-lai game...” “Phone embassy,” “Get bus tickets,” “Buy Silver Bracelet,” and “Buy Record.” Ruth also turned over a Merriam-Webster English dictionary and six picture postcards with no writing or stamps, but depicting Mexican tableaux.’

Turning now to page 204, we find that James denies that these items really belonged to LHO, or really came from Mexico, because his protégé, Steven Jones, found the following fact:

But further as Steve Jones noted in a talk at the COPA Conference in Washington in 1995, when Ruth picked up Marina in September of 1963, she said Lee did not say anything about going to Mexico. Once Oswald was apprehended, he never admitted to being in Mexico.

Actually, everybody already knew that LHO denied being in Mexico City. Yet James also omits the fact that LHO lied to Ruth Paine, telling Ruth on 23 September 1963 that he was going to Houston to look for work. Marina later admitted to the Warren Commission that she did know that LHO was going to Mexico City, but LHO had ordered her strictly to withhold that fact from Ruth Paine, and so Marina did. In fact, Marina lied about it to everybody.

Marina Oswald is well-known for reversing the story that she told the FBI and Secret Service when she was under house-arrest (and frightened). To the WC, when Marina was more comfortable -- and under oath -- she told the truth. When Marina was under house-arrest by the FBI and Secret Service, she simply denied everything. This ordinary fact is missed by James DiEugenio, who wants to make a case against Ruth Paine. James writes:

While sequestered at the Inn of the Six Flags in Arlington, Marina was asked about her husband’s activities after she left New Orleans. She first replied that she thought he stayed in New Orleans and looked for work. She told the FBI the same thing on November 29th. Oswald was going to stay in New Orleans to see if he could find work. If not, he would then return to Dallas. She then said she had no knowledge of any trip to Mexico by Lee in September, and she added that, to her knowledge, Oswald had never been to Mexico.’ ...Marina was repeatedly asked about this topic on six more occasions. But she continued to deny that Oswald had ever said anything about being in Mexico City.

That is also correct -- Marina continually lied not only to Ruth Paine, but also to the FBI and the Secret Service -- after all, Marina was not under oath during those times. Further, in all those occasions when Marina lied, she was protecting LHO. She just denied everything, and this is perhaps the most common reaction of any wife in such a circumstance. This fact is missed by James DiEugenio who wishes to believe that the Mexico City trip by LHO was a CIA invention fostered by Ruth Paine. James continues:

In February, before the Warren Commission, she now reversed her story: Oswald had told her he was going to Mexico. And she now backed up what the CIA was saying: Oswald went to Mexico City to get a visa to Cuba.

James omits something very important in his 2012 book, since the Lopez Report (a formerly classified CIA report) became a FOIA release in 2003. The Lopez Report confirmed scientifically that LHO had indeed visited Mexico City (as a passenger in a car, not a bus) and had indeed attempted to obtain instant passage to Havana (with a set of phony Communist and FPCC credentials) and had even made a fool of himself at the USSR Embassy in Mexico City, by taking a loaded pistol there, and breaking down and crying. It's all there. But James will not relent on his attacks on Ruth Paine and on his obsession that she *must have been* a CIA Agent. James also doubts another part of Marina's story to the Warren Commission, writing:

Marina would eventually go overboard on this point when she said Oswald told her he was going to hijack a plane and make the pilot take him to Cuba.

Yet Marina is confirmed in his point by CT writer, Ron Lewis, who was one of Oliver Stone's advisors in the filming of the 1991 movie, JFK. Ron Lewis, in his book, FLASHBACK: The Untold Story of Lee Harvey Oswald (1992), claims that Ron befriended LHO in New Orleans in the summer of 1963, and LHO tried to convince Ron to help him hijack a commercial airplane to Cuba. Ron told LHO the idea was stupid, but LHO persisted, so Ron told LHO that since Havana is only 90 miles off the coast of Florida, it would be far easier to steal a single-passenger airplane from a private airport. So, Ron independently confirmed Marina's WC account.

In any case, James DiEugenio sticks to his guns, and he concludes:

Again, the Commission now had some corroboration for a trip to Mexico that no one recalled Oswald mentioning, and he himself denied. And it began with Ruth Paine.

The fact that James DiEugenio would ignore the clear facts of the Lopez Report, simply in order to continue to accuse Ruth Paine of being a CIA agent, using flimsy so-called evidence, should cause us to doubt the judgment of James in these important matters.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited October 31, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 204 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James now begins his extended harangue about the Undelivered, Undeliverable package that was officially reported in the Irving Post Office nine days after the JFK assassination.

Sylvia Meagher first wrote about this in 1967 in her landmark book, Accessories After the Fact, criticizing the Warren Report. This package had the name of Lee Oswald on it, but with an address that did not exist in Dallas, no return address, and no postage. No researchers have been able to find a firm conclusion about it, but James DiEugenio will attempt to link Ruth Paine, whom he insists was a CIA Agent, with this package. James writes:

Let us conclude this section on the Paines with what is perhaps the most ignored piece of key evidence in all of the literature on the JFK assassination. On November 23, 1963 mailman H.W. Reed was at Powell’s Waffle Shop in Irving, Texas...sitting with...C.E. Vaughn and Ray Roddy...talking about the assassination... As Roddy got up to pay the cashier, Reed overheard her say something to him about a package being held for Oswald. This turned out to be true.

Though this mailman Reed learned of this on Saturday 11/23/1963, it wasn't until Monday 12/2/1963 that Reed took the information to the FBI. Yet there will be even further delays.

Moving on to page 205, James DiEugenio will begin his logic that this Undeliverable package *must have been* originally addressed to Ruth Paine. James writes:

At the bottom of the address, written directly on the parcel, are the words Irving, Texas. Yet, right above this –- obliterating the rest of the Irving address -- is a mail address sticker. The sticker reads as follows: Lee Oswald, 601 West Nassaus St., Dallas, Texas...And here begins the mystery. For that particular address does not exist in Dallas. Now...it would only appear logical that underneath the sticker...a legitimate address in Irving does exist...We do not know when the new address sticker was attached.

For James, because the address under the sticky label was, "Irving, Texas," and Marina Oswald lived with Ruth Paine in Irving Texas, he is *sure* it *must have been* originally sent to Ruth Paine's address. But then, somebody, sometime *must have* covered her address with a sticky label with another address. James continues to argue:

As noted, it was nine days between when Reed first heard about this package and when he signed a legal affidavit concerning it...On the twenty-third, at least four people had already heard about the package. And very likely more, since the cashier at the restaurant knew about it and was spreading the word about it that morning.

Again, mailman Reed first verified the existence of an Undeliverable package to Lee Harvey Oswald at the Irving Post Office on 11/23/1963 from a cashier, which means some people already knew about it. Reed then told the FBI nine days later on 12/2/1963, and then on 12/12/1963 the Post Office handed the package over to the FBI. That's three weeks and lots of buzz inside and outside the Post Office. James continues:

When the FBI did get hold of the parcel, it was through Post Office Inspector Harry Holmes, who picked it up from the postmaster in Irving. As many authors have noted, Holmes was a prized FBI informant inside the post office who cooperated mightily with the Bureau in more than one way to help make the case against Oswald.

James' explanation for the long delay is that the FBI is dragging their feet in order to frame LHO for the JFK murder. Exactly how or why, James doesn't know. But there *must be* some real clue in the Undelivered, Undeliverable package, and they can't let this come to light. It never comes to the attention of the Warren Commission. Ever.

Postmaster Twilley at the Irving Post office told Post Office Inspector Harry Holmes that he first saw this mysterious package on December 4th. But mailman Reed had claimed that the locals knew about it since November 23rd. This *must have been* the time, firmly believes James, that *somebody* applied that sticker with the false address over Ruth Paine's Irving street address. Just *must have been*; James writes:

This is at the same time that Oswald’s name was being broadcast on TV and radio throughout each and every day in that two week interval. But the fact that it was not in custody for twenty days, and it was given to Holmes at that time, allows us to question when the sticker was applied.

None of this makes any sense. James is imagining that Ruth Paine's address is underneath the sticker with the false address, but he has no proof. Then he imagines that the Post Office in Irving, knowing it's Ruth Paine's address, doesn't try to get the postage due from her after 11/22/1963, but instead, for some unexplained reason, chooses to cover her address using a sticker with a fake address, making the package Undeliverable.

Moving on to page 206, James continues:

In an FBI Airtel of December 13th, the Bureau says there is no indication the parcel was ever mailed. This is not really accurate. There is a postmark on the package, in which the date is not quite decipherable. There is no postage visible on the one side of the package we can see in photos. In the Airtel, the Bureau says...that Twilley questioned numerous persons at the Irving Post Office and could not find out any information about the parcel.

James refuses to believe that nobody recalled receiving or handling the package, even after the assassination. James is outraged that the FBI itself didn't question the workers. Holmes said that when he got the package it had already been partly opened. James is outraged again -- how could somebody forget that they partly opened a parcel with Lee Oswald's name on it, so soon after the JFK assassination?

There are so many questions involved with the Undelivered, Undeliverable package at the Irving Post Office, revealed soon after the JFK assassination -- and James has no real answers for us, but he is still certain that Ruth Paine must be involved, someway, somehow, because, after all, she's a CIA agent, claims James.

But what is even more perplexing than the address mistakes on the Undelivered, Undeliverable package, is the bizarre nature of its contents. James Di Eugenio is coming to that.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited October 31, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 206 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James now turns his attention to the bizarre contents of the Undelivered, Undeliverable package that was officially reported in the Irving Post Office nine days after the JFK assassination. The contents were: a brown paper bag, 18" long, open on both ends. James writes:

Inside the parcel was found a sheet of brown wrapping paper. Although the FBI called it a bag, it was described as being open at each end; which would more closely resemble wrapping paper...The Bureau tells us that the wrap is eighteen inches long. It generally recalls the brown paper discovered in the Texas School Book depository that the police accused Oswald of using to form a sack to bring his Mannlicher Carcano rifle to the Depository on November 22, 1963...Not any part of it, the parcel itself, the paper inside, nor the corrugation, none of it bore any latent fingerprints.

Ever since Sylvia Meagher raised this issue in 1967, people have claimed -- and James DiEugenio insists -- that the fact that there was brown wrapping paper in the Undelivered, Undeliverable Package, *must have been* a plot to link the brown paper bag with the brown wrapping paper found in the TSBD near LHO's rifle.

REALLY?! How exactly does that work? How in the world does a brown paper bag in an Undelivered, Undeliverable package at an Irving Post Office, addressed to Lee Oswald using a fake address, bear *any* relation to a brown paper bag found at the TSBD?

Without fingerprints, our first question, of course, was whether the *brand* of the wrapping paper was identical. Then we want to know whether the *thickness* of the wrapping paper was the same. But nobody reports that. Nobody even asks about it.

Rather, ever since the days of Sylvia Meagher, the naked *assumption* is that there *must have been* some connection. There are too many other possible explanations, for example: (1) LHO could have sent it to himself, unrelated to the JFK murder; (2) someone sent LHO wrapping paper as a secret message; (3) Richard Case Nagell sent a secret code to LHO inside the fake address itself; (4) there were microdots in the fake address sticker; (5) it was a secret message from Guy Banister and David Ferrie; (6) it was a secret message from Gerry Patrick Hemming and Loran Hall of Interpen; (7) it was a secret message from the Minutemen.

And so on and on.

It is actually reaching to presume, as so many CIA-did-it CTers have presumed, that there was a direct connection between the wrapping paper inside the Undelivered, Undeliverable package and the wrapping paper allegedly covering LHO's rifle at the TSBD -- until and unless we can see a scientific analysis of both paper bags.

Otherwise, it's simply a moot point, and not even worth discussing. But James DiEugenio is convinced that Ruth Paine must be to blame for this wrapping paper inside the Undelivered, Undeliverable package. James now spins a fairy tale, completely out of his own imagination, and he tells us who is lying and who isn't, and what facts are acceptable and which aren't. Here is where James really loses it, IMHO. James writes:

How does this all relate to Ruth Paine? On November 20, a package was sent from the Irving Post Office to Lee Oswald at 2515 W Fifth Street, Irving, Texas. This is the address of Ruth and Michael Paine. It was not delivered at that time since there was postage due on it. On November 23, the Dallas Police searched Ruth’s house for a second time and found the postage due notice with instructions to pick up and sign for the parcel. A deputy was dispatched to the Irving post office. According to Officer Gus Rose’s HSCA deposition, the deputy was told the parcel had been picked up. As we have seen from the H.W. Reed affidavit, this was false. And it began the cover up about this potentially crucial piece of evidence. In February of 1964, in an interview with postal inspector Roy Armstrong, Ruth Paine tried to imply that this notice was for magazines. Which it was not.

James is now calling everybody L-I-A-R who said anything about a completely *separate* postage due notice. "This was false," James claims, but offers no supporting facts. "Which it was not," James claims, without any proof. The FBI already investigated the Postage Due notice, and concluded it was fulfilled with a magazine delivery. Yet here James simply refuses to accept this. Oh, he has his own theory, of course, which depends on the FBI story being a Big Lie.

In the imagination of James DiEugenio -- who cannot rest until he shows that Ruth Paine was a CIA Agent who framed LHO for the JFK assassination -- there *must have been* some connection between an November 20th postage due ticket and the Undelivered, Undelivarable package.

James repeats this accusation again and again, just in case we missed it the first time. There's still more to come.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited November 3, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 206 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James fights stubbornly to link a Postage Due notice for a magazine (fully investigated by the FBI) with the Undelivered, Undeliverable package (contrary to the FBI finding). James writes:

On November 26, something startling happened. On the Property Clerk’s Invoice for the search of Ruth Paine’s home on the twenty-third, the following item appears, “Postal Form, label bearing name George A. Bouhe, 4740 Homer St., Dallas, Tex., Postal Form bearing name Lee Oswald dated 11/20/63.”

James says this is "startling." The Property Clerk is unclear -- two Postal Forms were included in one line item. Is this a mistake, or are we supposed to imagine that the two Postal Forms were stuck together? Also, were these Postage Due notices or something else? James does not bother with those details. James writes:

This perhaps means that the form for Oswald was then attached to one for Bouhe.

Perhaps, but perhaps not. It would be important to know, but James doesn't care. What's "startling" to James DiEugenio is that the name of George Bouhe is on this Postal Form found at Ruth Paine's house. It's startling because Ruth Paine had testified under oath that she never met George Bouhe in her life, or ever even heard his name before 11/22/1963.

James DiEugenio has already claimed that Ruth Paine *must have been* a part of the Radical Right Russian Emigre community in Dallas, where George Bouhe was the de facto leader. Ruth flatly denied it 51 years ago, just as she denies it today. What, then, would any Postal Form addressed to George Bouhe be doing at Ruth Paine's address? OK, it's a valid question.

Yet the answer is actually simple. George Bouhe was a good friend of Marina Oswald. George had provided Marina with lots of material support in 1962, because as a Russian he cared about poverty-stricken Russians who emigrated from Russia, like Marina. LHO was violently jealous of George Bouhe, but that was in 1962.

Further, we have also seen in WC testimony that seven different magazines, four from Russia and three from New York, were mailed to Lee Harvey Oswald at Ruth Paine's address starting in October 1963, and continuing through November of 1963. So, connecting a Postal Form for LHO with a Postal Form for George Bouhe makes sense as business for LHO. To drag Ruth Paine into it, and to call her a L-I-A-R, is simple bias.

No connection at all was shown between George Bouhe and Ruth Paine in James DiEugenio's accusations. More importantly, no connection at all was shown in Postage Due notices at Ruth Paine's house and the Undelivered, Undeliverable package. James DiEugenio has come up with nothing solid against Ruth Paine. But that doesn't even slow him down. There's still more to come.

As we move on to page 207, let's try to follow James DiEugenio's tortured quasi-logic in trying to blame Ruth Paine for the Undelivered, Undeliverable package. James writes, entirely out of his own imagination:

It is important to recall that the first attempt to mail the parcel was on Wednesday the twentieth. It failed for postage due. But Oswald was at the Paine home on Thursday, the twenty-first, the night before the assassination. If the mailing had been successful, Oswald likely would have opened the package and then handled the paper. He probably would have discarded it. If he had, one of two things would likely have followed: (1) the police would have found the discarded wrapping paper; or (2) Ruth Paine would have found it. Either way, the police now would have fresh fingerprints on wrapping paper resembling the sack allegedly used by Oswald to carry a rifle into the Texas School Book Depository. This is crucial because the official story states that Oswald stored the Mannlicher-Carcano murder rifle in the Paine garage. To have Oswald’s prints, and only his prints, on a sheet of discarded wrapping paper would have been strong evidence that the alleged assassin had wrapped the murder weapon the night before.

Here are the many presumptions in James' theory:

(i) The first Postage Due parcel on Wednesday 11/20/1963, pretends James *must have been* for the Undelivered, Undeliverable package; although it was fully accounted for by the FBI;

(ii) LHO made a surprise visit to Ruth Paine's home on 11/21/1963, so that if (and only if) LHO would have received the Undelivered, Undeliverable package, he would have handled the brown paper wrapper inside of it, and "probably" would have put it in the trash -- with his fingerprints on it;

(iii) With LHO's fingerprints on that paper bag, then (1) the police would have found it; or (2) Ruth Paine and the CIA would have found it, says James;

(iv) To have LHO's fingerprints on that brown paper bag, would have been, James claims, "strong evidence" that LHO had wrapped his rifle at Ruth Paine's the night before.

Well, actually, it would have been proof of nothing at all -- unless the paper wrapping was exactly the same *brand* and *thickness* in both cases -- which was never even discussed by James!

Well, there it is, folks. That's all there is to it. That's James DiEugenio's full theory for blaming Ruth Paine for the Undelivered, Undeliverable package found in the Irving Post Office, addressed to "Lee Oswald" at a phony address, without postage, and containing only a brown paper bag.

But wait, James still has even more accusations against Ruth Paine that we still have to consider.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited October 31, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Still on page 207 of the second edition of Destiny Betrayed (2012) by James DiEugenio, James is now basically done with his formal accusations, such as they are, and is now ready to list a few miscellaneous accusations. Here's how James introduces this final series of attacks:

The incredible thing about the above case against the Paines is this: this does not even come close to exhausting it.

That's a typical statement made by somebody whose case has been profoundly weak up to the present point. That certainly fits the case of James DiEugenio at this point. James continues:

For example, to mention just two further instances, one could detail their role in attempting to make Oswald’s Minox camera disappear – a project in which they cooperated again with the FBI – and in which, for all intents and purposes, they appear to be working as accessories after the fact in order to conceal who Oswald actually was.

OK, what about it? James doesn't bother sharing those details, because it would be a simple case of his word against the FBI. Anyway, James would rather increase the mystique of his accusations. So, instead, James changes the topic:

One could discuss the truly bewildering markings on Ruth’s pocket calendar – and her even more bewildering explanation for them – concerning when Oswald allegedly ordered the rifle in evidence.

We already covered this last week -- Ruth says she made a mark on her calendar after the JFK murder, when the television news about LHO ordering his rifle was being repeated all day long. James calls this "bewildering," evidently because common sense eludes him. James continues:

One could mention more startling statements.

Yes, we keep hoping for these, but all we get is naked speculation and shameless innuendo. James continues:

Ruth’s excuse for latching onto Marina Oswald was that she wanted to attain more fluency in the Russian language. Yet she had studied Russian since 1957, there were many Russian speakers in the White Russian community she frequented, and third, she had a Russian tutor in Dallas named Dorothy Gravitis, who had been born in the Soviet province of Lacvia. Finally, Ruth Paine taught Russian at St. Mark’s School for Boys! So why on earth would she need Marina to teach her Russian?

I don't know how many foreign languages that James DiEugenio knows, but as certified ESL instructor, I can confirm that learning a foreign language is one of the most difficult tasks any adult can attempt. Most people can study, say, Spanish for two years in high school, and then go to Mexico on vacation, and barely be able to speak with a waiter or taxi driver there. Most students just forget all of it in a few years, except, "Hola, buenas dias," and "Adios."

Also teaching young boys beginning Russian Grammar in a classroom is far different from conversational facility. Ruth needed *conversational experience*. In ESL we call this, "immersion." There is no better way to learn. This is what Ruth hoped to get from Marina.

But again -- Ruth told this to Marina so that Marina would feel more comfortable accepting free Charity from a stranger -- because Marina often expressed her discomfort at her plight in Irving. Marina was very polite in Irving -- and worked very hard to pull her own weight -- and often apologized for LHO freeloading there.

But James DiEugenio, without any evident expertise in second languages, is quick to accuse Ruth Paine of being a CIA Agent and of murder -- based on his "expert" opinion on the Russian language. Well, IMHO, his opinion clearly has no merit on this topic. James continues:

Another instance, when Oswald requested Ruth to contact an attorney for him, she said she was stunned and appalled because he thought he was innocent and could ask anything of her.

I find nothing surprising in this. As Robert Oswald himself testified about his own brother, LHO was arrogant during his arrest at the DPD. Ruth Paine expected to see some normal reaction from LHO during his arrest at the DPD, when he was clearly in deep trouble. But LHO acted casual and "cool" while in prison, and he simply called up Ruth Paine, as if she was his personal secretary, and arrogantly instructed her to keep calling attorney Abt until she got him.

Ruth Paine was surprised by the gall of the man. Although Ruth Paine had freely volunteered to take care of Marina Oswald while she was 8 months pregnant and Lee Oswald had no job -- during the previous eight weeks, when Ruth was caring for Marina and June, providing free room and board, LHO was also coming over on weekends, and eating for free for the entire weekend -- and never offering to pay for any groceries, even for himself.

Ruth didn't press the issue -- even though it was arrogant and rude -- because Ruth optimistically presumed that Lee was being very frugal in order to quickly rent an apartment so that he could quickly move Marina out of Ruth Paine's house ASAP. So, on that basis, Ruth didn't complain that LHO himself was freeloading off Ruth.

But LHO's prison attitude was too much even for Ruth Paine. LHO treated Ruth Paine like a servant -- a flunkie -- a personal secretary who was well paid. The arrogance would have offended any normal person. I myself would have told LHO to go screw himself. Ruth Paine had far more patience than I do.

Moving on to page 208 (the final page in James' attacks on Ruth) James DiEugenio continues:

Or Michael Paine’s inexplicable mentioning to the Houston Post on November 23 that Oswald may have been involved in the Walker shooting.

Actually, this is interesting -- but not for the reasons that James believes.

In 1993 Michael Paine admitted to Dan Rather that he actually did see the BYP on April 2nd, when he first met LHO in the Oswald apartment. This was a reversal of what he told the WC under oath. But the WC never pressed any issue that contradicted the "Lone Nut" scenario, which they promoted with full force. The WC insisted on ZERO ACCOMPLICES of LHO at any point. So, they encouraged Michael Paine in his poor memory.

Furthermore, Michael Paine's knowledge of the BYP on April 2nd 1963 (before the Walker shooting) completely explains Michael Paine's suspicions about the Walker shooting on 11/23/1963. I would have thought the same under those circumstances.

I suspect that Michael Paine knows something more about the Walker shooting even today than he ever told anybody. That's just a hunch -- and I'm not making accusations -- but Michael's confession to Dan Rather in 1993 remains one of the outstanding open items of the US history of the Walker shooting, IMHO.

But James DiEugenio doesn't share my viewpoint on the Walker shooting -- quite the opposite. James believes that LHO was completely innocent of the Walker shooting, and that Ruth Paine and the CIA merely *framed* LHO for the shooting -- despite the ridiculous lengths they must travel to maintain that theory. James continues:

What is stunning about the literature on the Kennedy case, nearly half a century of it...is that until the work of Hewett, Jones, and LaMonica appeared in the nineties, no writer had ever done a sustained inquiry into the Paines, their relationship with DeMohrenschildt, and their ties to the White Russian community in Dallas.

Actually, with James' work in the second edition of Destiny Betrayed, we can see the weak result of the work of Hewett, Jones, and LaMonica. If there was anything stronger in their 1990's work, we can be certain that James would have included it in this chapter. Not a single stitch of evidence proves that Ruth Paine had any link at all to George De Mohrenschildt or to the White Russian Community in Dallas. The result of their so-called work is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SOLID.

As the reader can see, there is a veritable cornucopia of associations, statements, and circumstances that arouse suspicion about the couple...In light of the above, they are truly a charmed couple. Until now.

Actually, as the reader can see, James & Co. offer nothing but innuendo and naked guesswork in their infinite suspicion of Michael and Ruth Paine. Their work is shameless, IMHO.

IMHO, the lives of the Paines were severely damaged due to Ruth's Quaker Charity for Marina Oswald. Far from "charmed," the Paines were rather "cursed" by the Oswalds. Marina apologized profusely to Ruth Paine on 11/23/1963 because of all her withholding from Ruth. Ruth told Mallon that she thought Marina overdid it, but I don't.

James concludes:

Suffice it to say, if there is ever a reopening of the JFK case, the Paines should be on the short list to be sworn before a grand jury.

Actually, as James himself well knows, nobody testified more than Ruth Paine in the entire literature of the Warren Commission (if we exclude the life history affidavit of Marina Oswald).

Ruth Paine has remained open to interviewers for the past 51 years since the Warren Commission -- and she never changed her story one iota in all that time.

The only reason that Hewett, Jones, LaMonica and DiEugenio think that Ruth Paine should face a Grand Jury, is mere, irrational bias. They gave us ABSOLUTELY NOTHING SOLID to go on, and I think I've shown that fairly well.

Regards,
--Paul Trejo

Edited November 3, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Gene Kelly]

Paul:

Your posts are suffocating, and center upon attacking others' opinions and work, rather than building a case. I side with the reason and logic of Chris and James (and others). I don't believe that Ruth is an innocent bystander, and her behavior, associations, proximity to key events/people, and her conflicting testimony are all very suspicious. Perhaps (as Paul and Jon state) she was being used. But she and Michael are strange bed-fellows that bear further scrutiny. That you persistently deflect and steer opinions away from the Paines does nothing to further progress in understanding the strange case of JFK's murder. Ironically, your tone and approach do more to convince me that the truth resides in places other than your defense of the Paines as a gentle innocent Quaker couple.

While I don't agree with your conclusions about Edwin (Ted) Walker, I do appreciate your work on him, as it has helped me to understand the currents and feelings of many extremists during that era. As with the Paines, I sense that there's something fundamentally "phony" about Walker's actions and statements, including the alleged assassination attempt on April 10th. If your intent is the kill this thread, you may have succeeded, as the more balanced and informed posters have left the the discussion.

Gene

[Paul Trejo]

Paul:

Your posts are suffocating, and center upon attacking others' opinions and work, rather than building a case. I side with the reason and logic of Chris and James (and others). I don't believe that Ruth is an innocent bystander, and her behavior, associations, proximity to key events/people, and her conflicting testimony are all very suspicious. Perhaps (as Paul and Jon state) she was being used. But she and Michael are strange bed-fellows that bear further scrutiny. That you persistently deflect and steer opinions away from the Paines does nothing to further progress in understanding the strange case of JFK's murder. Ironically, your tone and approach do more to convince me that the truth resides in places other than your defense of the Paines as a gentle innocent Quaker couple.

While I don't agree with your conclusions about Edwin (Ted) Walker, I do appreciate your work on him, as it has helped me to understand the currents and feelings of many extremists during that era. As with the Paines, I sense that there's something fundamentally "phony" about Walker's actions and statements, including the alleged assassination attempt on April 10th. If your intent is the kill this thread, you may have succeeded, as the more balanced and informed posters have left the the discussion.

Gene

Thanks, Gene, for your candid feedback.

Of course, I wasn't making my own case in all these posts criticizing pages 194-208 in the second edition of James DiEugenio's book, Destiny Betrayed (2012), but I was revealing the weaknesses in James' case.

I agree it was a lot of writing in the past two days -- however, I was really only responding, point by point, to James' own attacks on Ruth Paine.

People are free to suspect Ruth Paine or anybody they like -- but if they don't provide specific details, it's just random thinking. Once they make a specific attack, then, I will respond to see whether they are thinking clearly or attacking blindly.

In the case of James DiEugenio, I believe I showed that he attacked blindly, relentlessly, building "what if" upon "what if" in order to insinuate that Ruth Paine is a CIA Agent, and helped to murder JFK and frame LHO for the crime.

The weakness of his arguments has now been laid out with clarity, I believe. If somebody wishes to respond to specific points that I made, I'm now open to rebuttal and critique.

It's the specific points that are crucial -- not the free-floating, random suspicions.

As for my Walker-did-it theory -- I'm presenting a cogent explanation for the Walker shooting, and not the mish-mash that the CIA-did-it CTers offer. I repeat: the key to solving the JFK murder is to recognize that: (1) LHO didn't shoot at JFK; and (2) LHO did shoot at Walker. This approach reveals: (i) who really killed JFK; and (ii) the very reason that LHO was selected as the Patsy.

Finally: Hoover's demand that LHO be portrayed without accomplices, for National Security during the Cold War, completely explains why all the FBI and Bethesda autopsy data was tampered with to produce the illusion of a "Lone Nut." Neither the CIA nor the FBI killed JFK, but they were committed to a "Lone Nut" theory to prevent riots.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited October 31, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Jon G. Tidd]

Paul Trejo,

In your opinion, were Marina's husband and Ruth Paine on good terms? Did they get along? Did they have conversations? Did they respect one another?

Shifting gears, I assume you believe Marina's husband bought a rifle from Klein's. If you do, do you dismiss all the facts that suggest he did not?

In your opinion, was the shot fired at Walker intended to kill him? If so, how seriously, do you think, did the shooter want to kill Walker?

If Marina's husband buried his rifle in the ground after shooting at Walker, where do you think he buried it? In addition, where, when, and how did Marina's husband clean the rifle (assuming he did clean the rifle) after the Walker shooting?

[Paul Brancato]

Gene - I think 'suffocating' is a good descriptor for what Trejo calls 'revealing the weaknesses in James' case'. DiEugenio has wisely bowed out of this exchange.

[Paul Trejo]

Paul Trejo,

In your opinion, were Marina's husband and Ruth Paine on good terms? Did they get along? Did they have conversations? Did they respect one another?

<snip>

Thanks, Jon, for the relevant questions.

In my careful reading of all of Ruth Paine's WC testimony, I believe that Ruth Paine barely tolerated Lee Harvey Oswald. She went through three stages with him.

(1) The first stage was in March, 1963, when Ruth Paine and Marina Oswald were beginning their personal relationship. Marina confided to Ruth that she was pregnant, and also that Lee was threatening to send her back to the USSR without him. This really angered Ruth Paine.

Ruth's heart went out to Marina at the very start. Ruth testified that she immediately thought that if Lee sends Marina back, and Marina doesn't want to go, then Ruth would instantly invite Marina and her baby to live with her, until Marina can stand on her own two feet as a single parent in the USA. Ruth had already decided this in March, 1963.

On April 23rd, when Ruth went to visit Marina as usual, she was surprised to find Lee fully packed and ready to move to New Orleans *without Marina*. He was going to leave Marina and June in their apartment alone -- with little or no money -- and then write her a letter when he was "ready" for them to come. And pregnant Marina, who spoke no English, was supposed to pack up her baby things and get on a bus to New Orleans with baby June.

This really angered Ruth, so Ruth immediately offered to take Marina into her own home -- for as long as it took for Lee to get a job -- and take care of Marina and June, so that Marina would also have a telephone for Lee to call when he found a job, and also a ride to New Orleans by a friend -- instead of a bus company.

Of course, Lee jumped at that chance, and also asked Ruth for a ride to take his luggage to the bus station. Of course she gave him that ride -- but even at that time she distrusted this freeloader who couldn't hold down a steady job, even with a family to feed.

Anyway, Ruth really enjoyed the two weeks that Marina lived with her from the last week April through the first week of May, 1963. She had intelligent company (as Marina was also college educated) and Marina was very polite with a strong sense of pulling her own weight in chores, and a gentle sense of propriety.

After about two weeks, Lee did call Marina with news that he had a job, and Ruth Paine packed up Marina's things and drove Marina and all the kids to New Orleans. During Ruth's overnight stay with them in their roach-infested apartment, Lee and Marina bickered, and Ruth was glad to drive away early. Ruth barely tolerated Lee.

(2) The second stage was in September, 1963, when Ruth Paine ended her two-month summer vacation with her wealthy relatives back East, and went to visit Marina Oswald at the end of her trip. Marina had been writing to Ruth all summer, complaining that Lee kept threatening to send her back to the USSR without him, and this angered Ruth, and she told all her friends and relatives back East for her entire summer vacation.

Ruth was surprised to learn that Lee had lost his job again, and when she arrived in New Orleans at the end of her summer vacation, Lee was packing up to move to another town -- this time Houston -- and Marina was eight months pregnant -- really big. Again, Ruth Paine offered to take Marina and June to come live with her, so that Marina could have the pre-natal and post-natal care of Parkland Hospital.

Lee again jumped at the offer. This time, however, Lee was very grateful, and he didn't bicker with Marina, and he went out and bought groceries every day, and prepared food, and really took care of Marina and Ruth. Ruth and her two babies stayed a few extra days as a result.

Ruth even asked local Quakers if they knew any Russian speakers who could come and visit with Ruth to make her feel more normal. No local Quakers spoke Russian, but there was a Unitarian lady, Ruth Kloepfer, with two college age daughters nearby, and one of the daughters was learning Russian, and had been to Russia with her college, and had a recent photo album. So, to be friendly, these three ladies dropped by for a visit, and Lee hosted them very graciously, like a gentleman, offering them snacks and drinks, and looking at every picture in their photo album, making polite remarks.

At this point Ruth began to change her mind about Lee Harvey Oswald. He was cooperative and helpful. Ruth liked that. When Marina and Ruth and their babies went out for a stroll late in the afternoon, they returned to find that Lee had washed the dishes. Ruth also liked that. Then Lee started packing Marina's things energetically, and he did almost all of the packing, and all of the lifting of cargo onto Ruth's station wagon, and ensured everything was tied on very tight.

Again, Ruth really appreciated that, and her opinion of Lee changed with that visit, she testified to the WC. Finally, when it was time to leave, Lee cried when he said goodbye to Marina, and this touched Ruth, she testified. Then, when she realized she needed a new tire for the journey -- even though Lee couldn't afford to chip in for it, she did remark that he knew it was expensive and he appreciated it -- and Ruth testified that she thought that was very polite. So, as Ruth testified to the WC, she changed her mind about Lee -- she really thought he had turned over a new leaf.

(3) The third stage was back in Dallas (that is, the suburb of Dallas, Irving, Texas). For another two weeks (the last week in September and the first week in October, approximately), Marina and June lived with Ruth Paine, and their kids got along well, and Marina worked hard and pulled her weight, and helped Ruth with her conversational Russian.

After about two weeks Lee came back from "Houston" empty-handed as he had told Ruth, and decided to find a job in Dallas. Lee remained on good behavior, i.e. he would never visit without first calling and asking permission to visit. Ruth liked that. It showed a sense of propriety -- because after all, Ruth had invited Marina and June to live with her -- and not Lee.

However, once there, Lee would stay on the weekends -- and he never contributed any money for food -- even for himself. Ruth sort of understood this -- but it would have been better if he at least mentioned it, to be polite, to explain, perhaps, that he was saving his money to get a place for Marina as soon as possible. But he didn't.

So, Ruth again started to doubt if Lee had really turned over a new leaf.

Then, Ruth noticed that Lee's magazines began appearing at her address. He never asked her if he could do this, he just started doing it out the clear blue sky. There were four magazines from Moscow, and three from New York City. They just kept coming. He should have asked. Besides -- Russian magazines were expensive!

But, Ruth was happy with taking care of Marina Oswald, so she didn't complain about this. Marina apologized, and that was enough for Ruth. At least Lee called before he came over.

As for Michael Paine, he had long separated from Ruth -- but after all, his two children were there, so he would drop by every Friday night, and sometimes on a Sunday afternoon, and sometimes on a Tuesday or Wednesday night, to see his children and to pick up his mail.

On the weekends, of course, Lee Oswald would be there -- almost always watching TV. (As Michael testified to the WC, he thought to himself, "some activist.") Michael says that he found little in common with Lee Oswald (as Michael was an engineer, and Lee was a Marine) and yet they had four extended conversations during that eight week period from early October to late November 1963. Almost always about politics -- and often about General Walker.

Ruth Paine says that she and Marina Oswald paid little attention to that -- they were busy taking care of chores, dinner, cleaning up, and babies, laundry and the necessities of life.

At this point, as Ruth Paine testified to the WC, she just thought of Lee Oswald as an ordinary dude -- not a good person, but not a bad person -- and Ruth certainly never thought that Lee Oswald was violent in any way, she testified. Ruth told the WC that she never saw Lee behave violently, ever. Ruth never saw Lee hit Marina, for instance (as George and Jeane DeM had seen and testified. Remember that Ruth didn't know the DeM's.)

Ruth and Michael Paine both testified that they didn't believe that Lee Oswald would ever kill JFK. Lee had told Michael that JFK was his "favorite President." When Ruth and Michael talked about it over the phone in that famous tapped phone call, and said, "We both know who really did it," Ruth Paine says that they were talking about the people who published the handbill, WANTED FOR TREASON: JFK, and also the black-bordered DMN advertisement, "WELCOME MR. KENNEDY TO DALLAS: WHY ARE YOU A COMMUNIST?"

Didn't everybody think that at the time? (In my theory, the Paines were absolutely right.)

So, Ruth didn't despise LHO (though she did early on) but she didn't really like him either. She said that her life would have been better if LHO had never come over on weekends, which really disrupted the routine and schedule. LHO began to take Ruth for granted, and this was irksome.

But Marina never took Ruth for granted. As Ruth testified, even after the JFK murder Ruth always thought highly of Marina -- and actually expected Marina to come back to live with her. (The Oswald family squashed that idea quick.) As she testified, Ruth believed that all Marina's faults could be traced to LHO, and with him out of the picture, Marina would be a whole new person. Ruth was sad that Marina chose to break off their friendship after the JFK murder.

(As for your other questions, Jon, I'll respond to them ASAP.)

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

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Edited November 3, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Paul Trejo]

Paul Trejo,

...Shifting gears, I assume you believe Marina's husband bought a rifle from Klein's. If you do, do you dismiss all the facts that suggest he did not?

In your opinion, was the shot fired at Walker intended to kill him? If so, how seriously, do you think, did the shooter want to kill Walker?

If Marina's husband buried his rifle in the ground after shooting at Walker, where do you think he buried it? In addition, where, when, and how did Marina's husband clean the rifle (assuming he did clean the rifle) after the Walker shooting?

Thanks again, Jon, for these relevant and interesting questions about the topic at hand.

You're right -- I do believe that Lee Harvey Oswald bought a rifle from Klein's. I wonder what you mean by *facts* that suggest he did not. I've read a lot of *guesswork* that he did not, but I know of no solid facts.

LHO used his alias of Alek J. Hidell to buy the rifle from Klein's -- and LHO also created a Fake ID of Alek J. Hidell, with his own photograph, using the sophisticated equipment at his place of employment, Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. In New Orleans, the one and only member of LHO's Fake FPCC chapter there, was Alek J. Hidell. I don't see any holes in this evidence at all.

However -- the reason that LHO bought the rifle just might have some minor connection to Michael Paine (but not Ruth Paine).

I believe that we know the reason that LHO bought the rifle -- and that cinches it for me. Here's the story which did not come out in the Warren Commission, but did come out in the HSCA and in later interviews of Volkmar Schmidt, e.g. with our own Bill Kelly.

(1) Here's the story from the manuscript, I'm a Patsy! I'm a Patsy! (1978) by George DeMohrenschildt (DeM). It involves Volkmar Schmidt. Here's a link: http://22november1963.org.uk/george-de-mohrenschildt-i-am-a-patsy-chapter01

(1.1.) George DeM was spying on LHO for the CIA, to ensure that LHO was not a double-agent. George did this by making a pal of LHO. In the course of their "friendship," LHO continually complained to George, and to Volkmar, and to everybody, that the JFK mess in the Bay of Pigs (1961) was the worst disaster of their time.

(1.2) George DeM, Volkmar Schmidt and various Dallas yuppie liberals disagreed -- rather -- the worst disaster of their time was the Ole Miss racial riot (1962) led by General Walker. George DeM, for example, continually called General Walker, "General Fokker."

(1.3) As it turns out, Volkmar Schmidt's parents were both Professors of psychology, so Volkmar grew up learning lots of tricks of psychology, including a psychological procedure named, "Transference."

(1.4) Volkmar boasted to George DeM and to all their yuppie liberal pals that he could "process" LHO with this "Transference" procedure, and transfer his hostility over the Bay of Pigs to hostility over General Walker.

(1.5) The game was on. Everett Glover decided to hold another party at his place, and invite all his engineer pals, and Volkmar Schmidt would put on a public display of his psychological talents for the party. If LHO would agree to do this.

(1.6) According to multiple accounts, LHO agreed to do this (since he loved to be the center of attention) and so Volkmar Schmidt worked on LHO for hours. In short, Volkmar worked to convince LHO that General Walker was like Adolf Hitler, and if somebody had killed Adolf Hitler early in his career, that the whole world would have been spared World War Two.

(1.7) According to those present, the "process" was a big success. At the end, LHO agreed that Ole Miss was worse than the Bay of Pigs. It was a fun evening.

(1.8) To read Bill Kelly's interview of Volkmar Schmidt about this party, click on this link:

http://jfkcountercoup.blogspot.com/2008/01/volkmar-schmidt-interview.html

(1.9) To hear Volkmar Schmidt *personally* talk about this party, click on this link and skip to 36:54: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5eGdgVkHeE

(1.10) It was immediately after this party that LHO ordered his rifle from Klein's.

(1.11) The only connection I can possibly imagine with the Paines, is the possibility that Michael Paine was at that party.

(2.0) Do I think that LHO intended to kill General Walker?

(2.1) Yes, I really think he did -- although the fact that LHO missed might suggest that Unconsciously he had doubts.

(2.2) Yet I also believe that LHO lied and lied to Marina Oswald, and so what she told the WC was only the Truth-as-she-knew-it, but what she knew were only the lies that LHO wanted her to know.

(2.3) Therefore, regarding LHO "burying" his rifle -- I believe that was a lie that LHO told Marina. Again, when Marina repeated that to the WC, she was only telling the Truth-as-she-knew-it. But LHO had lied to her.

(2.4) I also believe that LHO lied to Marina when he told her that he was alone. I truly believe there were ACCOMPLICES with LHO that night. (Eye-witnesses, for example, saw TWO men running away.)

(2.5) I also believe that LHO lied to Marina when he told her that he traveled by foot and bus that night. I truly believe that LHO rode as a passenger in a CAR for the Walker shooting.

Yet the Warren Commission was very keen to eliminate any possibility of any hint that LHO ever had any ACCOMPLICES at any time in his life. This is absurd, because LHO had dozens of political connections at all times in his life.

Yet the lucky event for the WC was that LHO lied to Marina continually -- telling her that he was always alone in everything he did. LHO also gave Ruth Paine the exact same impression. That's one big reason that the WC relied so much on these two women to make their case that LHO was a "Lone Nut" -- because these two women knew almost NOTHING about LHO's political life.

Therefore, IMHO, the plot to assassinate General Walker was really a conspiracy, a plot that involved George De Mohrenschildt, Volkmar Schmidt, and various yuppie engineers at that Dallas party. Now, they would all insist that they never really wanted LHO to actually murder Walker -- but the psychological process made them all ACCOMPLICES, IMHO.

Not one of them -- not even George DeM himself -- reported that party to the police as was their duty. It wasn't just LHO who tried to kill Walker -- but the conspirators all ran away like scared rabbits.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited November 2, 2015 by Paul Trejo

[Mark Groubert]

Ruth Paine was in a lesbian relationship with Marina Oswald, IMHO. If you read the "love" letters it's fairly easy to see that if you read between the lines. In addition, she never remarried and as we know, the Dallas police carted off her lesbian film collection and a projector that she argued about them taking.

The third "love" letter that she never sent to Marina, she tried very hard and succeeded to get back from the Warren Commission as I recall.

Now, spies do sexual things all the time and Marina, was certainly highly sexualized from what I understand. The lesbian relationship could have been a relationship of convenience for one or both. It could have been real or part of one of their or both person's job. Nevertheless, there is so much more to Ruth Paine than has been disclosed. "Forgetting" the higher paying baggage handling job offer for Oswald and tossing away the info has always been suspicious just on its own IMHO.

[Thomas Graves]

Ruth Paine was in a lesbian relationship with Marina Oswald, IMHO. If you read the "love" letters it's fairly easy to see that if you read between the lines. In addition, she never remarried and as we know, the Dallas police carted off her lesbian film collection and a projector that she argued about them taking.

The third "love" letter that she never sent to Marina, she tried very hard and succeeded to get back from the Warren Commission as I recall.

Now, spies do sexual things all the time and Marina, was certainly highly sexualized from what I understand. The lesbian relationship could have been a relationship of convenience for one or both. It could have been real or part of one of their or both person's job. Nevertheless, there is so much more to Ruth Paine than has been disclosed. "Forgetting" the higher paying baggage handling job offer for Oswald and tossing away the info has always been suspicious just on its own IMHO.

Mark,

I think you're probably right.

Never heard about the lesbian film collection, though.

Can you please post some frames from it?

Thanks,

--Tommy

[Paul Trejo]

Ruth Paine was in a lesbian relationship with Marina Oswald, IMHO. If you read the "love" letters it's fairly easy to see that if you read between the lines. In addition, she never remarried and as we know, the Dallas police carted off her lesbian film collection and a projector that she argued about them taking.

The third "love" letter that she never sent to Marina, she tried very hard and succeeded to get back from the Warren Commission as I recall.

Now, spies do sexual things all the time and Marina, was certainly highly sexualized from what I understand. The lesbian relationship could have been a relationship of convenience for one or both. It could have been real or part of one of their or both person's job. Nevertheless, there is so much more to Ruth Paine than has been disclosed. "Forgetting" the higher paying baggage handling job offer for Oswald and tossing away the info has always been suspicious just on its own IMHO.

Mark,

I think you're probably right.

Never heard about the lesbian film collection, though.

Can you please post some frames from it?

Thanks,

--Tommy

No, that's incorrect, actually.

The so-called "Love Letters" are really only about Christian love. Ruth Paine was and remains a Quaker Charity Lady.

HOWEVER -- the famous William Manchester, in his re-write of the Warren Commission that he created for the Kennedy family in his famous book, Death of a President (1967) did insinuate that Ruth Paine's interest in Marina Oswald was lesbian.

Manchester didn't openly accuse Ruth of being a lesbian -- he only insinuated it. These insinuations were based on closing statements in two of Ruth Paine's letters to Marina, i.e. she closed with "an embrace" and with "a kiss."

Anybody who knows the New Testament (admittedly a rare knowledge today) knows that the Apostle Paul would sometimes end his letters with "an embrace" and a "holy kiss".

Also, in one of Marina's letters to Ruth, she did use the phrase, "I love you," however, this was in the context of Marina Oswald very worried that Lee Harvey Oswald was threatening to send her back to the USSR with her children -- and without him. Marina didn't want to go back to the USSR. She would rather stay in the USA as a single-parent, and she was very worried during this period from March 1963 through August 1963.

There was nothing erotic in any of this.

Ruth Paine tried to think of ways to defend Marina Oswald -- for example, she researched the large Russian Community in New York City, in which Russians could find good jobs there without knowing any English at all. Ruth wanted to pursue this for Marina, even though Marina would live in New York while Ruth Paine would live in Texas.

There was nothing erotic in the letters. There was only a Christian concern regarding a human rights need. There was also a cultural mismatch between the Russian Marina Oswald and the American Ruth Paine, and their attempt to find common ground.

Christianity was the only common ground they could find.

The language about "love" was Christian, not eroticism.

The dirty minds of William Manchester and his readers are the only so-called "evidence" that anybody has regarding claims of a lesbian relationship between Marina Oswald and Ruth Paine. In the insinuations of William Manchester, Lee Harvey Oswald was driven insanely jealous by this alleged lesbian relationship between Ruth Paine and his wife -- and that's why he killed JFK.

I don't think I've ever read a more fictional account of the JFK murder than that, and I've read plenty.

Regards,

--Paul Trejo

Edited November 2, 2015 by Paul Trejo