Benjamin Cole Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, Lori Spencer said: Trump and Massie have had some legendary fights over the years. 😂 If Massie chairs this committee there’s no way he will allow it to get bogged down in 2020 election stuff. There are more important fish to fry, and he knows it. Also, I know he’s interested in the JFKA. Might be our best hope for this… or rather, our only hope. Let's keep our fingers crossed for Massie. And someone should warn Massie what happened to Henry Gonzalez and Richard Sprague, lo those many years ago.... There will be more booby-traps than lobbyists....which, in DC, is saying something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Larry, It can't be said any more precisely and clearly than I said it (above.) Republicans aren't heroic adversaries of the Deep State. They only "discovered" Peter Dale Scott's "Deep State" in 2017, after Trump and his propagandists in the media began trying to blame Trump's Russiagate scandal on the Deep State (the FBI, in particular.) So, they cooked up an endless series of nothing burgers-- Obamagate, Spygate, Nunes Memo, misrepresentation of the Mueller Report, Durham Report, etc. Similarly, Trump and his media propagandists have been trying to blame Trump's January 6th coup attempt on the Deep State-- e.g., the "patriot purge" narrative. It's a ruse. IMO, Kevin McCarthy and his Sedition Caucus-- Jim Jordan, Scott Perry, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, et.al.-- are mainly interested in undermining the DOJ investigation of Trump's multi-faceted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. They aren't heroic truth seekers-- just the opposite. That's why they refused to comply with their Congressional subpoenas last year. If you and Tucker Carlson can inspire the 118th Congress to push for the release of the JFK records, that would be great. But, IMO, the Republicans' main agenda in "investigating" the Deep State is to obstruct the investigation and prosecution of their J6 crimes. And where were these heroic Republican truth seekers (including Tucker Carlson) when Trump blocked the release of the JFK records in 2017 and 2018? No wonder you don't like Greenwald he calls you out on your Kookery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Well, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that Mathew Koch still hasn't read the Mueller Report or the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian interference in our 2016 U.S. election. Apparently, Mathew also never studied Reality Winner's NSA document that was leaked to the Intercept after Putin and Trump denied the U.S. intelligence claims about Russian interference in our election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, I'm shocked, shocked to hear that Mathew Koch still hasn't read the Mueller Report or the Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian interference in our 2016 U.S. election. Apparently, Mathew also never studied Reality Winner's NSA document that was leaked to the Intercept after Putin and Trump denied the U.S. intelligence claims about Russian interference in our election. Just keep piling the untrue BS up William, Reality Winner??? Your calling Jim Jordan Gym Jordan goes to show how unserious a person you are.. Edited January 9, 2023 by Matthew Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Mathew, Jim Jordan is a sociopath. Study his history at Ohio State and in Congress. His agenda in 2023 is to undermine the investigation of Trump's criminal efforts to overturn the 2020 election-- with the complicity of Jordan and other Republican members of Congress. As for Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and the editors of the Intercept cut ties with Greenwald after he sold his soul to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Propaganda Corporation. Edited January 9, 2023 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Mathew, Jim Jordan is a sociopath. Study his history at Ohio State and in Congress. His agenda in 2023 is to undermine the investigation of Trump's criminal efforts to overturn the 2020 election-- with the complicity of Jordan and other Republican members of Congress. As for Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and the editors of the Intercept cut ties with Greenwald after he sold his soul to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Propaganda Corporation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Thinking cannot be objective if it is so intertwined with powerful emotions like hate and fear. Judgment is impaired. Is one side a warped mirror image of the other? Both sides have and will continue to be mechanism for one class. Is it possible that they can swap roles when the other has lost public trust to a certain degree? Cui bono .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Schnapf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 The text of the resolution creating this new sub-committee would give it the power to receive classified information that is usually only made available to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. this along with subponea power could be powerful tool for any investigation into the JFK Records Act. The subcommittee will have at least 5 democrats. Meanwhile, I have been told by the Oversight Committee staff that Jamie Raskin will be the ranking member. He has signed all the letters that Representative Steve Cohen (D-TN) sent to President Biden asking for full release of the JFK Records. So it appears we may have an ally on the democratic side of the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cummings Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lawrence Schnapf said: The text of the resolution creating this new sub-committee would give it the power to receive classified information that is usually only made available to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. this along with subponea power could be powerful tool for any investigation into the JFK Records Act. The subcommittee will have at least 5 democrats. Meanwhile, I have been told by the Oversight Committee staff that Jamie Raskin will be the ranking member. He has signed all the letters that Representative Steve Cohen (D-TN) sent to President Biden asking for full release of the JFK Records. So it appears we may have an ally on the democratic side of the committee. Looking at backup plan considering Rankins recent health issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Schnapf Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 he said his treatment wont impact his duties but I'll be checking with the staff periodically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Raskin was head of the 1/6 committee That is a victory toward bi partisanship and should be celebrated! We'll see what turns out. Larry, as I've mentioned to you. Thankfully, You're going to continue doing what you're doing , no matter what partisan squabbles we have here . So why involve yourself?. Particularly with Ben's "Spe ctacular Greenwald" thread which is just Ben's impatience to spread his partisan politics everywhere. You should probably just establish a thread, and update us on the latest news. I'd appreciate that. Hate to clu' ya, but Massie is not going to chair the committee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Mathew, This could be another teachable moment for you, (although I'm not holding my breath.) Are you old enough to remember watching that Carter-Reagan debate in 1980, where Reagan famously quipped, "There you go again?" Do you remember the context of Reagan's deflective remark? I remember watching that debate with a few of my classmates in medical school. President Carter was raising the subject of Ronald Reagan's famous opposition in the 1960s to Ted Kennedy and the landmark Medicare legislation that has raised millions of American seniors out of poverty. Reagan's response? "There you go again." And, coincidentally, one of Jim Jordan and the GOP House agendas in 2023 is to use the debt ceiling negotiations to force cuts in Medicare and Social Security. MAGA!! 🤥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 14 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Mathew, Jim Jordan is a sociopath. Study his history at Ohio State and in Congress. His agenda in 2023 is to undermine the investigation of Trump's criminal efforts to overturn the 2020 election-- with the complicity of Jordan and other Republican members of Congress. As for Glenn Greenwald, Jeremy Scahill and the editors of the Intercept cut ties with Greenwald after he sold his soul to Rupert Murdoch and the Fox Propaganda Corporation. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 9:28 PM, W. Niederhut said: Larry, It can't be said any more precisely and clearly than I said it (above.) Republicans aren't heroic adversaries of the Deep State. They only "discovered" Peter Dale Scott's "Deep State" in 2017, after Trump and his propagandists in the media began trying to blame Trump's Russiagate scandal on the Deep State (the FBI, in particular.) So, they cooked up an endless series of nothing burgers-- Obamagate, Spygate, Nunes Memo, misrepresentation of the Mueller Report, Durham Report, etc. Similarly, Trump and his media propagandists have been trying to blame Trump's January 6th coup attempt on the Deep State-- e.g., the "patriot purge" narrative. It's a ruse. IMO, Kevin McCarthy and his Sedition Caucus-- Jim Jordan, Scott Perry, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, et.al.-- are mainly interested in undermining the DOJ investigation of Trump's multi-faceted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. They aren't heroic truth seekers-- just the opposite. That's why they refused to comply with their Congressional subpoenas last year. If you and Tucker Carlson can inspire the 118th Congress to push for the release of the JFK records, that would be great. But, IMO, the Republicans' main agenda in "investigating" the Deep State is to obstruct the investigation and prosecution of their J6 crimes. And where were these heroic Republican truth seekers (including Tucker Carlson) when Trump blocked the release of the JFK records in 2017 and 2018? Here Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 9:28 PM, W. Niederhut said: Larry, It can't be said any more precisely and clearly than I said it (above.) Republicans aren't heroic adversaries of the Deep State. They only "discovered" Peter Dale Scott's "Deep State" in 2017, after Trump and his propagandists in the media began trying to blame Trump's Russiagate scandal on the Deep State (the FBI, in particular.) So, they cooked up an endless series of nothing burgers-- Obamagate, Spygate, Nunes Memo, misrepresentation of the Mueller Report, Durham Report, etc. Similarly, Trump and his media propagandists have been trying to blame Trump's January 6th coup attempt on the Deep State-- e.g., the "patriot purge" narrative. It's a ruse. IMO, Kevin McCarthy and his Sedition Caucus-- Jim Jordan, Scott Perry, Andy Biggs, Paul Gosar, et.al.-- are mainly interested in undermining the DOJ investigation of Trump's multi-faceted efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. They aren't heroic truth seekers-- just the opposite. That's why they refused to comply with their Congressional subpoenas last year. If you and Tucker Carlson can inspire the 118th Congress to push for the release of the JFK records, that would be great. But, IMO, the Republicans' main agenda in "investigating" the Deep State is to obstruct the investigation and prosecution of their J6 crimes. And where were these heroic Republican truth seekers (including Tucker Carlson) when Trump blocked the release of the JFK records in 2017 and 2018? Here Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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