David Josephs Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 kinda looks like the same bulbous nose to me... and I think you'd be surprise Bart... Shelley knew much more than he let on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 The ridge on his nose is a give away. And I would want to see more proof before Shelley gets his agency credentials. Up till now it is merely conjecture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Cross Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 FWIW I'm with David on this. Lighting changes features. But there are too many similarities. Would be interesting to try facial recognition software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Josephs Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) I'd imagine like many of the CIA's informant assets, we're not going to find much at this point... but I'll keep looking... Does his saying he is not in the Altgens photo yet standing next to Loveladay make him PrayerMan? I had assumed that tie man was Shelley since he was wearing a suit and tie and said he was standing next to Lovelady... PM could not possibly be Shelley since he walks off... I don't have that image handy... where does Shelley appear first as they go toward the RR yard? By way of example.. Clay Shaw was thought to be a CIA asset at a much higher level of involvement than Shelley... This comes from a Survey of CIA records from HSCA... I just found it interesting that the only other name named than DAP and MLK, is Clay Shaw whose ITM these people (including Shelley IMHO) are standing by... Edited October 19, 2018 by David Josephs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Thanks to Malcolm Blunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jolliffe Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Bart and David, Apparently William Hoyt Shelley really was in uniform during WWII, albeit in the ROTC. It is not inconceivable that he was some sort of informant while working at a defense plant. In any event, the picture tells us he viewed himself as a soldier/patriot from a young age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 56 minutes ago, Paul Jolliffe said: Bart and David, Apparently William Hoyt Shelley really was in uniform during WWII, albeit in the ROTC. It is not inconceivable that he was some sort of informant while working at a defense plant. In any event, the picture tells us he viewed himself as a soldier/patriot from a young age. Paul, Would you happen to know if Shelley was still in the Reserves as late as 1963? Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 (edited) This is getting kind of interesting . Malcolm actually found the letter. Is there any way to track down this Glaze guy now? BTW, what about Blakey just sending the guy a form letter on something as intriguing as this? Edited March 8, 2019 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jolliffe Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Aw, come on Jim. You know perfectly well that anything that might have been a real lead tracking back to any place other than the mafia was the last thing at which Blakey wanted to look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Well you have a point there. But the responsible thing to have done was to assign it to someone and say, give me a report in two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Jolliffe Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 There is a Dean E. Glaze at 11322 Alhambra in Austin, aged 62, who is related (son?) to an Ellie Dean Glaze, according to the site “Been Verified”. Could anyone make a call to Mr. Glaze and see? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 How about does anyone live in or near Austin? Drop in on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kozlowski Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Paul Jolliffe said: There is a Dean E. Glaze at 11322 Alhambra in Austin, aged 62, who is related (son?) to an Ellie Dean Glaze, according to the site “Been Verified”. Could anyone make a call to Mr. Glaze and see? There also was a Elzie Glaze in Deninson,TX who passed away at 67. Looks like he has 2 daughters. Edited March 11, 2019 by John Kozlowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kozlowski Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 5 hours ago, Paul Jolliffe said: There is a Dean E. Glaze at 11322 Alhambra in Austin, aged 62, who is related (son?) to an Ellie Dean Glaze, according to the site “Been Verified” Could anyone make a call to Mr. Glaze and see? The women I found also connect back to that same address you found. I also came across this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie Goldberg Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I'm not sure I am looking at the correct individual, but it appears that an Elzie Dean Glaze married a Sylvia Sattawhite in Texas. If that is the correct Glaze, then Elzie Dean Glaze's father-in-law was a pilot who worked for General Dynamics in Fort Worth, per Mr. Sattawhite's obituary in 2014. The Glaze couple was listed as still married in 2014 and again in a 2015 obit when Mrs. Sattawhite passed away. And if that's the correct person, Mr. Glaze may prefer to go by Dean rather than Elzie, again per the listing in the obit. Might help for searching, again assuming that's the right person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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