David Josephs

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25539-lee-harvey-oswalds-social-security-no/ Bart says this comes from Malcolm yet I remember seeing the green page version from Steven Gaal many, many years ago... This is what I have for 1955 for Harvey (black) and Lee (Blue)... Marge's info is usually in red... as are the odd years in my spreadsheet. The address for Harvey and "mom" is based on telephone book records and existing historical documents... FWIW 1955 1 24 Dolly Shoe - MO there Truant Dolly NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS 1955 2 5 MO worked next at Tradewinds Bar for Cash Truant Dolly NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS 1955 3 10 Work Permit issued to HARVEY while living on Exchange Truant Dolly NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS 1955 3 12 Working at Dolly with MO Truant Dolly NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS 1955 4 15 Letter - you owe utilities on 126 Exchange. DOLLY SHOE FINISHED - both HARVEY and MO let go 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS Mrs Sawyer rememebrs MO and son - quiet, got home before MO, not loud in ANY way. VOEBEL visits LEE 1955 5 1 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS 1955 5 15 Name Listed at 120 N Telemachus in reverse directory is "Margt Oswald" while Margueritte is at 126 Exchange NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS LEE AND VOEBEL look into Civil Air Patrol 1955 6 5 126 Exchange NOLA 9th BJHS LEE completes a New Orleans school Bio 1955 7 15 NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA summer Tujagues Lee is already working at Tujague's when ROBERT comes to visit 1955 7 27 NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA summer Tujagues JOINS Civil Air Patrol and meets FERRIE (see bbq photo) Stops attending meetings very soon after this date 1955 8 1 HARVEY letter states he's been studying MARXISM for 15 months until request for Socialist Party info dated Oct 9 1956 SUMMER Summer NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA summer Tujagues School year 55-56 1955 9 8 Warren Easton NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues 1955 9 28 Warren Easton NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues 1955 10 2 MO writes that they will be moving to SD this month 1955 10 10 HARVEY wants to join the marines and have MO fake his Birth Cert Warren Easton NOLA 120 N. Telemachus 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues Decides to leave W.E. and work 1955 10 20? They move to San Diego San Diego ?? 1955 11 10 San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues 1956 1 11 Moves to CA with MO and works as a messenger for ETI Realty San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues 1956 1 20 San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th JR MICHELS Paycheck from J R MICHELS JR 1956 3 1 San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues NOLA work permit given to LEE OSWALD while on Exchange 1956 4 15? ETI Realty Co - Laurell Kitrell San Diego ?? 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues MO Tells Mrs Sawyer - neighbor - that they are moving to Ft Worth 1956 7 1 Application for Reg at Ft Worth Schools MO address - Lois & James Taylor, manager at Collinwood, remembers MO from 7/1/56 - 7/1/57 with ROBERT AND HARVEY/LEE Summer Ft Worth 4936 Collinwood 126 Exchange NOLA 10th Tujagues Tujagues (import export)

I assume you refer to "brother-in-law" and your conclusion that MUST refer to Blair... As I understand it, Grace is in Hungary in 1963 when the call is made, right? It only makes sense to connect Gardos and Blair via that comment... if and only if it is Grace - or someone in the know... As for her treatment... please elaborate. She was an American living in a communist country, living as a communist... it would be strange to have a double agent like Childs report on another agent, Grace... if she was acting in that capacity. But it would solidify her cover.... So it was not Grace as she was not here... agreed? Grace and Amy Blair are about the same age... sisters... one wonders to which sibling Grace was closest. The name BLAIR would raise some communist eyebrows if it was learned it was a Blair making that call... yes? The connections would be obvious if one knew anything about the CP in Wisconsin. Did any other Blair family members have children in the late 30's early 40's? Did any other Blair family members move to NY? With Gardos and Weinstock on that list for Visas... I wonder who was known as the CP power in Yorkville... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/20/opinion/new-york-american-communism.html this article places the CP power in south Manhattan... where the CP HQ was located... What became the Communist Party U.S.A. (its name varied in the early years) was founded in Chicago in 1919 and, following a period of underground organization, opened its national headquarters in that city in 1921. But the bulk of the movement’s members were in New York, and in 1927 Communist headquarters were shifted to a party-owned building in Manhattan, at 35 East 12th Street, two blocks south of Union Square. (The building still stands, although under new ownership, and in what has evolved into a considerably less proletarian neighborhood than in the old days.) New York would remain the capital city of American Communism from then on. Leading communists, including such figures as William Z. Foster and Earl Browder, had their offices on the top floor of the 12th Street building; accordingly, within the movement, it became the custom to refer to party leadership as the “ninth floor.” (And, for some reason, even in non- and anti-Communist left-wing circles, “the party” was always understood to refer to the Communists, rather than any rival organizations.) ----- In 1956, with a hard core of 20,000 or so surviving members, the party was dealt a fatal blow when the Soviet leader, Nikita Khrushchev, delivered a “secret speech” to the 20th party congress in Moscow, denouncing his predecessor, Stalin, as a bloody mass murderer. The speech leaked. So did the disillusioned membership of the Communist Party U.S.A., reduced to a few thousand members by 1958, and never recovering much beyond that in decades to come. It did, however, survive the collapse of its political inspiration, the Soviet experiment. The 50's showed what power the US democratic/capitalistic society could wield. It was a direct blow to the CP who had been preaching about the depression and how it was inevitable as opposed to the Russian way of life which would care for everyone.. or so it was said. That the caller names GARDOS and NYC... and WEINSTOCK suggests to me the caller MUST have had ties to Wisconsin... or simply had heard the names, was deathly afraid of communists and then called the Tippits? If it was the CP she was worried about, she should have called the FBI... or police. Did the CHILDS' have wives? That is where my thinking is going as well John. Yet, Childs working from 1952 to 1982 matches the time frame for the useful tenure of one Marge C. Oswald who dies in 1981. In the summer of '53 Harvey and Marge go to Stanley ND. One can pass thru Milwaukee on this trip. Childs is in Milwaukee. More on ND shortly.... In the summer/fall of 1953, Lee's mother works in NYC with PIC visiting her from time to time. Something is going on it appears... whether related or not... well, that's what we're doing here, right?

John.. Archive.org has a large amount of data on the 2 Child’s and Operation Solo... saw a 3500 page scanned doc with nothing but info from, on both Child’s.... nice find. Ken, there would be little reason for those who do not know about all the conflicts to even bother. While H&L works for most people who take the time to consider the totality of the evidence, it is not a widely held theory despite it fitting the evidence so well. while a DNA test today seems no big deal... there are legal considerations that preclude these tests from just happening... I mean Robert’s kids and Lee’s should have DNA showing they are related to Marge. What are the chances of being allowed to do that you think. If we’re right, it looks like an ONI/CIA project.... getting Americans into Russia for intel. When in fact the KGB turned tables by finding wives for these Americans with which to return to the US and gather their own intel. Marina’s backstory is just as amazing and interesting.. did you know she had her birth certificate reissued in 1961, and the number of inconsistencies along her life are also noteworthy... her name and occupation changes often depending on where u look. Bottom line, with Lee, Robert, John and mom at 1505 8th thru the summer of 47, a short, fat woman and child are seen living at 101 San Saba... personally I fail to see how this can be Harvey and Marge2...but that’s the idea.... what seems to happen after this is that Harvey follows Lee and vice versa, schools, Marine training, etc.... How Harvey and M2 get to NY then is a mystery.... Btw, Pic only starts using notes in his testimony starting with August 1952.... the Moment they come to NY.... fwiw

HERE'S THE POST I REFER TO:

OK - Facts and Speculation.... Emil could have simply been the man paying the FATHER and UNCLE... It seems to me quite possible the big deal reason for hiding this away had more to do with the US CITIZEN GRACE BLAIR GARDOS than with Emil (see below)* Using these FACTS... what can be concluded about this woman and her call in regards to: Oswald, the Father/Uncle, a "brother-in-law", Wisconsin and Yorkville? FACTS · Jack D Tippit is a married cartoonist in Westport CT · Call was about 11:30 am on “INSTANT DATE” – what does that mean? · Caller was a woman with an accent · Asked if Tippit related to Dallas Tippit · Mrs. T says “distantly related” to officer and asked her name · Could not give name – afraid of being killed · Caller was from NY · Caller had come “here” to avoid being traced (knows enough about long distance and local calls) · Caller requests nothing be said TO THE PRESS about a “woman calling” – they would know and kill her (This not saying anything about the call to the PRESS thing… with the info offered what would the caller be assuming? – they would just sit on the info or call the FBI instead?) · Knows Oswald’s Father and Uncle WERE Hungarian Communists · Caller says Father and Uncle lived at 77th and 2nd in Yorkville. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkville,_Manhattan#/map/0 Yorkville slightly north S: East 79th / E: FDR Drive / N: 96th / W: 3rd Ave · Both unemployed – paid by the Communists to do Communist activities (Helping to form Unions was primary activity) · Caller offers the name EMILE KARDOS (sic) Emil & Grace Gardos · Caller focuses on the term “Brother-in-law” repeating it but not defining it · Mrs. Tippit tries to find out who the brother-in-law is but woman just repeats the phrase · Caller says GARDOS head of the Communists · Caller says this NY Group has “charts and maps” · Caller mentions WEINSTOCK, editor of Worker’s World · Caller says group in NY plans to take over Government · Caller says “they” will deny it · Caller hangs up · FBI New Haven has no knowledge re: Father/Uncle residence or associates SPECULATION · Call sounded local · Austrian/Germen and/or Spanish · Woman sounded mature · Mrs. Tippit mentions Norwalk Hour article about Tippit relatives https://archive.org/stream/FBI-Operation-Solo/100-HQ-428091-Serial5842-5915_djvu.txt *TO : DIRECTOR, FBI (100-428091) FROM: SAC, CHICAGO (134-46 Sub Enclosed herewith for the Bureau are the original and three copies and f b$ New York one copy of a letterhead memorandum entitled, t !2BCF» W I ¥^r UNITED STATES CITIZEN RESIDING IN BUDAPEST, ^m M ^ ^ L^. The information appearing in the enclosed letter-head memorandum was orally furnished on 10/15 and 18/66 by CG 5824rS* to SAs WALTER A. BQYLE. and RICHARD W, HANSEN The enclosed letterhead memorandum is classified ? since unauthorized disclosure of the information set forth therein could reasonably Result in the identification of this source who is furnishing - information on the highest levels concerning the international communist movement, and thus adversely affecting the national, security In order to further protect the identity of this source, the enclosed Letterhead memorandum has been shown as being prepared at Washington, D.C. (|?Bureau (Eqc>- 4) (RM) 1-New York <7100^134637) (Enc.^ 1) (Info) (RH) RWH-MD17 ================ In connection with the information set forth in the enclosed letterhead memorandum, CG 5824-S* advised that in regard to the negotiations concerning GRACE GARDOS* release, he had on HALUs instructions submitted a letter to the Central Committee of the Hungarian Socialist Workers Party (HS1VP) which was delivered to Z0LTA1T KOMOCSIN. In this letter it was noted that the CP, USA Was aware of problems in Hungary regarding hard currency and for this reason, i,£ necessary, was willing to lay out the money itself to cover GARDOS ' return to the U.S. Within an hour of the time this letter had been delivered, a response. " had come Tsack from the Central Committee of the HSWP authorizing GARDOS 1 release. The HSWP was, according to CG 582.4rS*, a little disturbed at HALL ' s intimation that "cheapness" and lack of funds on the part of the Hungarians had been, the cause for the long delay in handling this matter. In Reply, Please Refer to File No. _______ UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Washington, D. C. October 24, 1966 GRACE GARDOS, UNITED STATES CITIZEN RESIDING IN BUDAPEST, HUNGARY. . . A source, who has furnished reliable information in the past, during October, 1966, advised as follows; In September, 1966, the Communist Party, USA (CP, USA) , through the cooperation of Zoltan Komocsin, a member of the Political Bureau, Central Committee, Hungarian Socialist Workers Party (HSWP) , made arrangements for Grace Gardos to be given permission. to return to the United States in order that she might work for the CP, USA in New York City » New York. Grace Gardos is a United States citizen who had gone to Hungary a number of years ago when her husband voluntarily accepted deportation from the United States. Up to the present time, Grace Gardos has been acting as correspondent for "The Worker, " United States East Coast communist newspaper in Budapest . Her husband Emil is living in Budapest in a retired jstatus and on pension, / /frWs/^/ Gardos was scheduled to leave Budapest, Hungary, for the United States on approximately October 15, 1966, and was expected to arrive in the United States sometime around October 18, 1966. In regard to Grace Gardos, it has been learned that she had not been particularly happy with her status in Hungary and there may be intent on her part at this time never to return to that country. This possible intent on the part of Gardos was not revealed by the CP, USA to the HSWP during negotiations with them. There was also some indication that Gardos, once she has returned to the United States, may make efforts for her son, who also resides in Budapest, to come to the United, States for possible permanent residence.

Paul... Take a moment and reread the FBI report... there are 2 distinct parts being referenced here... 1. The man Ruby killed had a father and an uncle who were Hungarian Communists & THESE MEN lived at 77th and 2nd (I think the FBI changed this too... Yorkville is much more a real community at 87th and 2nd rather than 77th.. 2. The call BEGINS TO SPEAK DIFFERENTLY... and mentions Emil, something about a brother-in-law, and WEINSTOCK. THE WOMAN SAID SHE KNEW OSWALD’S FATHER AND UNCLE WHO WERE HUNGARIANS AND COMMUNISTS. THE WOMAN CONTINUED THAT OSWALD’S FATHER AND UNCLE HAD LIVED AT SEVENTY SEVENTH AND SECOND (87th?) AVENUE, YORKVILLE, NYC, THAT WHILE LIVING THERE BOTH WERE UNEMPLOYED, GOT THEIR MONEY FROM COMMUNISTS AND SPENT ALL THERE TIME IN COMMUNIST ACTIVITIES. THE WOMAN THEN BEGAN SPEAKING INDISTINCTLY, DISJOINTEDLY, AND NERVOUSLY. SHE STATED SHE HAD TWO NAMES TO GIVE AND MENTIONED THE NAME EMILE KARDOS (GARDOS) AND SAID SOMETHING ABOUT A BROTHER IN LAW. THE WOMAN KEPT REPEATING THE WORD BROTHER IN LAW Where in this report do you see that EMILE KARDOS = OSWALD'S FATHER? or UNCLE? ... or that "FATHER" and "UNCLE" are related (many ways to have a father and uncle from different families) ... or that "UNCLE" is connected to "brother-in-law"... WE are making these connections, not the report. There were MANY crackpot calls/reports written up by the FBI in the WCR and not hidden for 30 years, so unless this is one great subterfuge creating an amazingly strong red herring there ought to be some significance to this call beyond a crazy person calling.... Point being though, there are no specific connections being made in this report Mrs. Tippit is the source for the idea the caller sees the JFK/Oswald report in the Norwalk Hour... but I don't see how that's possible from NYC... So how else could the caller have found the Norwalk Tippits? Simply because SHE WAS AFRAID they may know her by name or know it was her if a "woman called the Tippits" again does not mean WE would know her name. I mean what if this involved the KEATINGS who have generations of women named Margaret Keating... and we can't overlook PIC's wife/mother's family are from Hungary living in Yorkville, or Robert's wife from simply being around and in the know.... We don't know about ANY connection other than Emil and Fred being Communists and related as brothers-in-law. What do you suppose makes OSWALD stand out so much in this woman's mind that she would recognize a man as the boy she knew - or does she already know since NYC would have been filled with news about JFK and Oswald... and Oswald is a name that frightens her... (or at least the father and uncle's names do) The "Group in NY plans to take over the government" reminds me of the FDR coup with the bankers and wall street captains... but that's in the 30's. I doubt this "group" disappears.... and this is the same group which helped finance the Bolshevik Revolution (None Dare Call It Conspiracy) so supporting communism at home to sow seeds of chaos in order to maintain control is really not so far fetched.... Fresh sheet of BLANK paper ------ list the FACTS found in that report versus the speculation... we can go from there DJ (edit: the caller does not include little Oswald in her mention of where Father and Uncle lived... in Yorkville. In fact, the report makes it sound as if Little Oswald was not there at all)

Be even more intriguing if they were mother and son.... I don’t see that here... But yes indeed John, that woman is key, yet the records of her time is virtually impossible to Authenticate. We do know her testimony about her own life events is full of conflict. That she was not the wife of Ekdahl or any Oswald. You think She did her patriotic duty and got screwed like Harvey?

Seems you’re jumping to conclusions John.... One pulled thread does not lead to Hungary... does not change where Pic lived, where the child and mom stayed, and the Hungarian connections. I suggest we spend a little time on WHEN Harvey comes into existence and WHERE. The boy in the San Saba car, dog, Marge photos is Lee. Pic took them, so for him to deny knowledge of San Saba is strange. I see Lee and mom going to NY and Harvey and Caretaker leaving after the bizarre situation with housekeeper Louise Robertson. The idea of the NY Gardos’ caring for foster children brought over from Hungary is interesting and would be a great cover for CIA related activity in that vein. Maybe Ekdahl is the dividing line... idk. Maybe the trip to Boston... Just seems the WC completely screwed up 1945, 46, 47 on purpose with regards to John Edward and Robert and where the Oswald’s/Ekdahl’s were and who bought which house.... 2220 Thomas plays into this as well. Harvey spoke Russian AND English meaning he was raised on one or the other and learned one of them... many see Harvey’s writing and the way he speaks only to conclude English was a 2nd language. If he was raised speaking Russian and then stopped for a while, picking it up at classes in the Marines would be like riding a bicycle..... Anyway, I don’t get the impression John knew the caretaker or Harvey in NY, that he visited his real mom. The “break” between Lee and John seems abrupt and out of place... John Edward’s contribution?

I believe Audacity - a great free sound editor may be of some help.... If someone got me the digital files I can take a crack at it... DJ

Mr. JENNER - Did he then move into the 4801 Victor Place?Mr. PIC - Yes, sir; she took a short honeymoon for a day or two and came back and moved in.Mr. JENNER - In the summer of 1945 did you and Robert continue on at--through that summer in Dallas?Mr. PIC - Yes, sir.Mr. JENNER - That following September, however, you transferred to some other school; did you not?Mr. PIC - Yes, sir; and we were aware of this school before the school session ended in 1945. I knew before we left Davy Crockett we were going.Mr. JENNER - What was the name of that?Mr. PIC - In September 1945, sir, Robert and I entered Chamberlain-Hunt Academy, military school for boys, Port Gibson, Miss. John wrote that the Victor house is sold June 29, 1945.... If they stayed in Dallas thru September and then late registered Lee... Where did they stay in Dallas? H&L doesn't say... furthermore it is MARGUERITE EKDAHL listed in February 1946 for the mastoidectomy yet it is MARGARET OSWALD with a Mr. "ALLEN" who is involved in July 1948... Lee also being from BENBROOK. (The Bell FBI report on the right is in direct contradiction to what BELL says she said. She knew it was 1947 as the had just finished building their house when a woman and her son moved into 101 San Saba, across the street) in 1948 they moved from 8th street to Willing st and finally to 7408 Ewing... I think it's possible that EKDAHL OWNED 7408 EWING all along.... but I need to look further DJ "Allen 5" is dated Oct 1945 from the WORTH HOTEL telling Chamberlain-Hunt their new address on GRANDBURY (sic) Rd Route 5... I checked and the writing appears the same as other, earlier docs with her signature... Does this letter/note look like it had been folded and mailed? Not to me it doesn't.... The TARRANT COUNTY books on students for Ft Worth does not show any OSWALDS for either the 44-45 year or 45-46.... in 1947-48 we get that Nancy Lee and HARVEY with Mrs. Ekdahl...

If they did find a Mauser it couldn’t have a scope as the mounts cover the Mauser stamp and 7.65. The graphic should say the Stripper clip doesn’t go into the Carcano... when it was realized the Carcano needed a clip, a clip was produced.... I’ve also felt, “why designate the caliber and model in an affidavit that day or the next when, ‘we found a rifle’ would have been fine”? There was no need for them, AFTER Day claims he says it’s stamped 6.5 (not to much actually) Made in Italy... It actually says Made Italy... and the Cal stamp looks more like a 3 than a 5... the rifle Day carries out of the TSBD doesn’t appear to have a Cal stamp, at all...

Thx Jim... in the records she is 1 year younger than “Harvey” Oswald. I wish I knew what the lines thru children’s names meant.... btw... the glasses, no glasses ... Caretaker vs Lee’s mom pretty well settles it.... did a comparison of their teeth to... no match there either... Also, PIC has the years messed up... in summer ‘45 he claims they are in Dallas... except Lee, Marge and Edwin drive to Boston early, like July... while Pic claims they dropped them off on their way in September... 46 is no better.... and 47-49 is just a hot mess.... In 49... FWIW, in 45 when applying to the school, in July, she signs her name Oswald, 2 months after getting married... in October on Worth Hotel stationary she talks of their new address on GRANDBURY (sic) Rd and signs it Ekdahl....

yeah, and Jarman says he sees Wesley THE NEXT DAY AT WORK after the assassination Norman isn't sure how often... Shields is completely unreliable And Roy Lewis talks 50 years after the fact.... === Just saying you might want to rethink that conclusion Rob... he simply did not take Oswald to and from each day... In fact, it's not until Thursday that Oswald even asks him to take him home THAT NIGHT to Irving... if he was driving with him every day, he could have asked that morning on the ride in (not) or that evening since as you claim, Wesley would have taken him home... I don't get that impression from this exchange... do you? Mr. FRAZIER - Well, I say, we were standing like I said at the four-headed table about half as large as this, not, quite half as large, but anyway I was standing there getting the orders in and he said, "Could I ride home with you this afternoon?"And I said, "Sure. You know, like I told you, you can go home with me any time you want to, like I say anytime you want to go see your wife that is all right with me." Mr. BALL - About what time in the morning?Mr. FRAZIER - I would say sometime between eight and ten, because I go to work at eight and I would break at ten.

I think you're reaching here Rob.... He only works for the TSBD 5-6 weeks... Wesley drives him to and from Irving on Mondays and Fridays.. He takes the Beckley Bus to a stop literally outside his rooming house.... (which is why his getting on the Marsalis bus makes no sense at all) === With regards to Wesley, I get the feeling you are correct about his knowing much more than he lets on... btw - SHIELDS says a number of things about that morning which turn out to be false.... He claims he was told by Givens that Wesley drops Oswald off at the building, yet Givens does not corroborate this at all... Nor is there any testimony which claims that Wesley picks Oswald up daily... unless you can point me to some.... DJ Mr. BALL - At any time coming back after a weekend did you ever stop at a restaurant for breakfast?Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; we never did.Mr. BALL - Did you ever stop on the way home on Friday night and buy anything?Mr. FRAZIER - No, sir; stopped one time and bought some gas, I remember. Mr. BALL - Your memory is that he went,, he rode home with you every Friday and came back the following Monday?Mr. FRAZIER - Yes.Mr. BALL - Except this one weekend?Mr. FRAZIER - Right, that is what I say. If he went home with me on Friday afternoon he always rode back with me on Monday morning. It wasn't no added job when he would come with me on the weekend. He would ride home with me on Friday and he would come back with me on Monday.

Couple of things.... #1 - Marguerite Francis Claverie Oswald Ekdahl NEVER WORE GLASSES.... #2 J.E. PIC describes the house on San Saba while denying any knowledge of San Saba and giving us the year they moved in yet those who lived around 101 San Saba do not remember anyone other than short fat Marge and a single boy... (Where Nancy Lee went after she was 7 and at school with Harvey is a mystery as is Nancy herself) Why do you suppose Edward denies San Saba as being this house he describes? As the records show it was bought on 7-7-47... Robert and John Edward stay at Chamberlain that summer (at least according to PIC's testimony) and then Georgia Bell tells John A that they leave by then end of November... with the 2 other boys still at Chamberlain WE THINK Marge and the boy move to 2220 Thomas with the boy going to South Hi Mount elementary.... but that's not supported by facts, yet. ...I was told by her that she was contesting the divorce so that he would still support her. She lost, he won. The divorce was granted. I was also told that there was a settlement of about $1,200 and she stated that just about all of this went to the lawyer. Right after this is when she purchased the house in Ben-brook, Tex., the little house.Mr. JENNER - Describe that house.Mr. PIC - It was an L--shaped house, sir, being the top of the L was her bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, and living room with a screened-in porch. She and Lee slept together. My brother and I slept in the living room in the screened-in porch on studio couches. When we moved into this house and after the divorce and everything became final, I was--Mr. JENNER - Excuse me, was that 101 San Saba?Mr. PIC - No, sir; I don't know nothing about 101 San Saba.Mr. JENNER - Do you recall the street you were on in Benbrook; this first house?Mr. PIC - There were no streets. We used a post office box number up at the post office there. Because I was sending away for stamps at the time from different companies, and I was collecting stamps and I would go pick up the mail at the post office.Mr. JENNER - The first house in Benbrook was on Granbury Road, that is your recollection? That is the one you have already mentioned heretofore?Mr. PIC - Granbury Road is familiar, sir, if that is the one that is way far south of town on Granbury Road, then that is it.

Not New York, NEW HAVEN.... and why would NEW HAVEN have any info on NYC communists who lived in Wisconsin, Michigan as well? This - to me - was another way the FBI hid what they knew.... Don't ya think we'd be more interested in what the New York Field Office had on EMIL and FRED?

The FBI was focused on keeping San Saba in the summer of 1948 for some reason - (Georgia Bell report) I don't think Marguerite or Edwin lived at the San Saba House... in fact only Lee may have ever been to that house.... ======== While Georgia Bell describes the short, fat Marge... the timing is in direct conflict with records: from H&L... Lee Oswald completed the 1st grade at Lily B. Clayton Elementary on May 30, 1947. His grades were listed as two "A's" and the rest "B's." At the end of the spring semester at Chamberlain Hunt, John and Robert returned to Fort Worth and moved into the apartment at 1505 8th Avenue with their mother In the summer of 1947 John Pic worked at Walgreen's for a few weeks and then began work at the Tex Gold Ice Cream parlor. The store was located at 1920 8th Avenue, four blocks south of the apartment at 1505 8th Avenue. By the end of the summer 15-year-old Pic was promoted to assistant manager (go to Baylor and find the "San Saba" notebook" page 26 is the TARRANT CTY record of sale on 7-7-47 to Marguerite EKDAHL of 101 San Saba Mr. PIC - It was an L--shaped house, sir, being the top of the L was her bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, and living room with a screened-in porch. She and Lee slept together. My brother and I slept in the living room in the screened-in porch on studio couches. When we moved into this house and after the divorce and everything became final, I was--Mr. JENNER - Excuse me, was that 101 San Saba?Mr. PIC - No, sir; I don't know nothing about 101 San Saba. https://taxdeed.tarrantcounty.com/ViewDocument.aspx?DocID=9664352 is the tax deed for 101 San Saba, a tiny L-shaped house.... see page 2 Much of Pic's testimony if incorrect when it comes to this time period and where they were.... I can't find where the "other" house on Granbury would have been....

Wilcott is the lynchpin to the Oswald Project.... yet as I say... The evidence is virtually all about what Wilcott heard after the fact... He was not in Japan when Lee Harvey was there.... 9-16-78 Station Finance Tokyo Bill Schaap - Committee did stress analysis on Jim Wilcott. Cuban stress analysis verified Wilcott validity. Approximately April-June 1963, Cryptonym for Oswald Project approx. RX-ZIM. Standard two consonants followed by 2,3,4 letter pronounceable word. Two case officer money dispersal methods: . USSR SR Branch - believed responsible for Oswald Project. Korea: Korea Branch All stations operate the same, especially Class A Station. Special Base deep cover CIA base - Atsugi. True name file destroyed in seconds - told to Committee. Principle agents - subsidiary agents. Wilcott- includes Diet members. Code ex. AN AIM 1, AN AIM 2, AN AIM 3, etc. AN AXCL (approx.) project code name. Moral Rearmament - CIA project funding (talking to ministers, etc..) One goal: placing CIA agents in strategic locations. . Washington, D.C. Sept. 64 - May 65: disbursed and audited funds to National Student Association, AFL-CIO, universities (Columbia V.I. Oswald Project Summary: submit project outline to Chief of Japan Branch; submit outline to desk of Japan Branch HDGT. Project returned to Japan Station. Nothing sent by mail. Use diplomatic courier. Allotment determined. Quarterly allocations from approved disbursement. Two withdrawal methods. Advance request signed: a. agent, b. branch officer C. finance d. station auditor checks project code number under cryptonym. TSD - logistics, etc. all under number code. Funds withdrawn accounted by agent monthly: a. difficult to account for all agents expenditures; b. if balance existed, refunded. C. If deficit, advance to cover deficit. d. some advance requests. Some revolving funds. Some agents used own funds. .

Spent a wonderful few hours with Neale.... An extremely interesting, curious, joyful, intelligent person I hope we get the opportunity to hang out again together and just talk and explore the possibilities... DJ

Y’know John, I’ve been thru the Walcott stuff. I didn’t see it going so far back in time... April to June 63.... Reilly Coffee... 544 Camp.... but there is a comment about how Fred Korth had a special relationship to Lee... with no further comment... here, I found it.... xplanation

you got them right... the Bronx Zoo kid is HARVEY.... PIC would recognize the boy inset as his brother from that time period... 6 inches taller, 15-20lbs heavier... The inset is October 1951 (school photo time), the zoo is August 1953 When he enters school in NYC he is recorded as 5'4" and 115lbs....

How about the fact in the 1940 Census at 2109 Alvar... in addition to Marge, John Edward, Robert and Lee there is a border: ANN G BURROUGHER age 22... I've spoke to John about this... he also has no idea who Nancy Lee or who this ANN person is/was.... Also strange is that in 47-48 she is listed as Marguerite Oswald yet in 49-50 it's back to Marguerte Ekdahl despite having gotten a divorce already and having used "OSWALD" while she was married to Ekdahl. ?!??!??! Lee's behavior at the Pic apartment had me thinking that maybe the switch was already made but I was wrong... the controlling Lee was just that, a fatherless, large boy becoming a man in NYC and not caring a lick about what mom has to say.... in fact anytime mom is in the room Lee is most troublesome. This is a BIG BOY, who knows how to fight and win... not the quiet little boy who reads and keeps to himself... I think it very possible that the Marge imposter at San Saba, stayed in the south when Marguerite and Lee go to NY, or goes to NY subsequently... and it is HARVEY who returns from NY... probably with the Marge imposter.... they go to Robert's place to stay.... if Robert did actually take the Bronx zoo photo, then he knows full well HARVEY is not Lee. Harvey Lee would be Robert's wife's Brother-in-law... right?

I was born in NYC-Queens... I live in Northern Cal.... if I am asked where I'm from, "I'm from NY"... Original location of birth/childhood doesn't change unless consciously.... She may have been "from NY" but that doesn't actually mean she was living in NY at the time... It was Mrs. Tippit who suggested the newspaper article connection, not the caller.... Option 1: This is a set-up; the woman is given the number to call and a script to follow to create an even greater connection between Oswald and Communists Option 2: This is a complete crank (if so the FBI would have included it with the other batch of crank letters they published in the WCR) Option 3: It's legit and somehow this woman learns not only of JACK TIPPIT of CT but gets the phone number and comes "here" to make a local call. I'd imagine getting a phone number wasn't too hard if you knew where someone lived.... FWIW John K: CRIME STOPPERS HUNTS KILLER OF STEPHEN TIPPIT FOR NEWS RELEASE: TUESDAY, APRIL 20, 1982 This week, Crime Stoppers is offering a $1,000.00 reward for information leading to the arrest and Grand Jury Indictment of the person or persons responsible for the execution style killing of Stephen Allan Tippit. Steve Tippit was murdered in the winter of 1980 and Police still do not have any solid leads in the case. On December 5, 1980, Stephen Tippit left his motorcycle shop located at 3600 South Lamar at approximately 11:00 AM. Tippit had in his possession the daily deposit from the business and had stated to employees that he was going to make the deposit at the bank, but that he was going by a friend's house first. The friend was going to show him the proper way to carry and use a . 45 caliber automatic pistol. Tippit drove to the home of Henry Johnson at 602 B Kinney Ave. where he remained for a short period of time before leaving to conduct his business. At approximately 3:00 PM employees of Tippit's motorcycle shop saw Tippit driving southbound on South Lamar in front of the shop in his yellow 1972 Volkswagen 2 door, accompanied by a white male passenger. The vehicle was headed in the direction of Oak Hill. This was the last time Stephen Allan Tippit was seen alive. On the afternoon of December 6, 1980 Steve Tippit's vehicle was found abandoned in the Westgate Mall parking lot in front of Woolco Department Store. Inside the vehicle was Tippit's wallet, bank deposit and his .45 automatic pistol. Later that same afternoon two men driving down Cooke Road in Southwest Travis County near Oak Hill found the body of Steve Tippit off to the side of the road. There appeared to be no sign of a struggle and robbery did not appear to be a motive as Tippit still had $400.00 cash on his person. Tippit seems to have been forced to get down on his knees and shot in the back of the head twice in an execution style killing. If you have any information as to who killed Stephen Tippit or can help bring some light to this case, give Crime Stoppers a call at 472-TIPS. You could earn a $1,000.00 reward if the information leads to an arrest and Grand Jury Indictment. Callers do not have to reveal their names and all calls will be kept confidenta1. Crime Stoppers will also pay rewards on other felony crimes https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/Photocopy/94236NCJRS.pdf The NORWALK HOUR ran a story on page one Nov 25, 1963 about their local Jack D Tippit The newspaper was founded in 1871.[1][2] It was published under the title The Evening Hour from 1895 into the 1900s, at which point it was renamed The Norwalk Hour. Some time after 1971, it became simply The Hour.[3][4] The newspaper covers local news, business, sports, and entertainment,[2] and as of April 2003, had a circulation of 16,070 That small a paper I also find it amazing that anyone outside of Norfolk would be aware of that article.... and unless it was picked up by AP or UPI there'd be no reason to have it published in NY or anywhere else for that matter.... Major newspapers are not going to list all the Jack Tippit's in the US - and even if they did... why this Jack D TIPPIT in CT? So we're back to what leads this woman to NORWALK CT's TIPPIT. As you both say, the caller never tries to say "Oswald" is anyone different than OSWALD, only that she knew his father and uncle as NYC communists.... the caller also never says that Marge is not his mother.... only the repeating of BROTHER-IN-LAW All I'm saying is to start with a fresh, blank page. That although Emil is Fred's brother-in-law we have a Marge Oswald and son at 101 San Saba in July 1947... and we KNOW this is not Lee's mother. We KNOW there are two boys/men with records claiming they are each Lee Harvey Oswald in identical locations yet at different times and with different people. We KNOW the communists were pretty powerful and free to ply their trade in the US.. Mostly creating Unions and trying to protect the workers while denigrating the owner/bosses. If we believe this woman, we KNOW Robert E Lee Oswald was not Harvey's father... but does the caller know there is a Lee and Harvey Oswald? I don't think so. To her, there was one LEE OSWALD whose father and uncle...blah, blah, blah... :-) We also know that Lee's mother had more important things than her kids on her mind... I wonder if Lee's mother didn't actually hire a woman to care for her little son while she was off doing whatever... Lee was only 5. When Lee and Mom show up at the Pic's in Sept 1952.. it IS Lee's mom and appears to have been Lee with her given what Pic says about the first few weeks... It seems it is my wife's impression that whenever there was an argument that my mother antagonized Lee towards hostility against my wife.My wife liked Lee. My wife and I had talked several times that it would be nice if Lee would stay with us alone, and we wouldn't mind having him But we never bothered mentioning this because we knew it was an impossibility. Mr. PIC - Well, prior to this particular incident, I would consider us the best of friends as far as older brother- younger brother relationship. My wife always says that he idolized me and thought quite a bit of me.Mr. JENNER - Up to this time, the relationship between you and your brother Lee, and your brother Robert, all three of you, had been a cordial normal friendly relationship that you expect to exist among brothers?Mr. PIC - That is correct, sir. And then they move to Sheridan and it goes off the rails Mr. JENNER - Then right below that is a picture of a young man standing in front of an iron fence, which appears to be probably at a zoo. Do you recognize that?Mr. PIC - Sir, from that picture, I could not recognize that that is Lee Harvey Oswald.Mr. JENNER - That young fellow is shown there, he doesn't look like you recall Lee looked in 1952 and 1953 when you saw him in New York City?Mr. PIC - No, sir.Mr. JENNER - Commission Exhibit No. 284 do you recognize anybody in that picture that appears to be Lee Oswald?Mr. PIC - No, sir.

Paul - how do you know it was FBI and not John A who I believe made the copy at NARA? ===== Now for some research results: The mention of TIPPIT is connected by Mrs Tippit to an article on Nov 25th in the Norfolk Hour Newspaper.... History[edit] The newspaper was founded in 1871.[1][2] It was published under the title The Evening Hour from 1895 into the 1900s, at which point it was renamed The Norwalk Hour. Some time after 1971, it became simply The Hour.[3][4] The newspaper covers local news, business, sports, and entertainment,[2] and as of April 2003, had a circulation of 16,070 I have a tough time seeing how a woman in NYC would be aware of a tiny local paper's report... and I doubt the NYTimes would mention every TIPPIT in the NE due to an occurrence in TX. https://06880danwoog.com/2013/11/24/j-d-tippit-and-jack/ is a link to an article mentioning and showing the CT Jack Tippit (sadly it's a Dale Nyers article where he attributes things to JA which he never did) Her being "from" NYC doesn't mean she was "in" NYC at the time she came "here"... to Westport, Ct where the Tippit's lived. How else would this woman know about the CT Jack Tippit unless she was in the Norwalk/Westport area to read this paper? ======= I was able to find the listings for ALL THE SCHOOL CHILDREN IN TARRANT COUNTY in the 40's and 50's.... (but since so many of my attachments are in locked threads I cannot delete them to make more space... is there a way to post the URL of the image itself from Google drive?) Anyway... you will see that in 1947-48 Marguerite OSWALD has both HARVEY OSWALD age 8 and NANCY LEE OSWALD age 7 living at 1505 8th (going to Lily B Clayton) in 1948-49 we now have MARGUERTE EKDAHL as parent/guardian, HARVEY OSWALD with his July 9th birthday supposedly to allow him to enter school early since Sept 1 was the cutoff... and a line thru NANCY LEE OSWALD with MARGUERTE EKDAHL and a 10/19/39 birthdate... https://drive.google.com/open?id=17K-_v16OhQklf6exfqbq0qBwK5jQ1ajb https://drive.google.com/open?id=1JUZ7ogZc6ipPe73N6dCjvZlTLPBZJ4lh is for the 49-50 school year.... ROBERT OSWALD is both parent/guardian and student (10th grade) 4/7/34 bday HARVEY OSWALD with MARGUERTE EKDAHL and 10-19-39 bday The next line: TED L OSWALT with a 4/6/34 bday seems out of place.... what happens to NANCY LEE? I also checked to see if OSWALD was listed at Stripling in 54, 55, 56 with negative results... Something worth noting... on the TARRANT COUNTY LAND Docs for Section 5 Lot 1 (101 San Saba) shows it was bought by Marguerite C EKDAHL on 7-7-47 http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/38349 Edward and Robert were at the Chamberlain Academy so they would not have been seen at San Saba (yet still does not explain Pic's response re: San Saba) Ekdahl spent most of his time in Ft. Worth... it seems that Mrs Ekdahl buys the home yet never actually lives there.... the Marge imposter does... btw - the FBI report on Georgia Bell is complete BS... when John showed her the report she was livid about not having said those things.... After She and Harvey leave San Saba around Thanksgiving 1947 I THINK they go to 2220 Thomas where Harvey attends South Hi Mount elementary... not too long before they leave San Saba Marge has a neighbor, Lucille Hubbard drive her to 2220 THOMAS to pick up some furniture... While Mrs Ekdahl is living at 1505 8th.... Marge and Harvey are at San Saba and Thomas Place.... at least that's how it appears... So, who is NANCY LEE OSWALD ???