David Josephs

Don't change the subject to Stripling Jim.... We both agree there is more than ample H&L evidence that we don't need to reach.... The evidence offered to put Oswald at BJHS simply doesn't do it.... it much more strongly supports a child entering in January 1954.... So the Grade cards that don't match this final and permanent record isn't good enough for ya? The dates which FBI Malone attempts to convince us of.... WRONG, doesn't work and as I wrote, no real school administrator would write 109 attended school days in less than 3 months of a semester - let alone another 15 absences and 11 half days.... doesn't add up Jim. So yes, I agree he was at Stripling.... I believe I read that Robert Oswald wrote that his brother was in Manhattan for the Fall 1953 semester... at yet a different PS44 - there were three of them in fact.... Take care DJ

Is this document authentic or an FBI creation to represent Oswald entering BJHS on 1-12-54, attending the end of 2 of 5 or 6 classes and then starting the Spring 53-54 semester in 8th grade. 171 + 18 = 189 + 11 = 200 days of school TOTAL from 3/23/53 until 1/12/54.... Really? There are 90 days in a semester - approximately - 180 in a school year March to January includes 90 days of SUMMER... NO SCHOOL If it's 180 school days from Sept "year 1" to Sept "year 2" (or any month from one year to the next) how can it be 200 days for LESS THAN A FULL YEAR (March to Jan) and including summer (90 days fewer of school)? At most you have 1.5 semesters or about 130 days of school, TOTAL.... (edit: actually less with Youth House - more like 110 but the FBI did not account for that in these docs offered as evidence) The 109 3/2 and 15 3/2 in NYC school records for 7-8 grade tries to account for all these days with no regard for ACTUAL SCHOOL DAYS.... Let's please remember these documents are FBI PROPS... The Evidence IS the Conspiracy... Peace DJ

Jim, If Oswald attended BJHS in the Fall of 1953 for the 1953-54 school year, how does he get off only taking 2 classes? Cause he gets there with only 2-3 weeks left in the semester. Can we please remember that this too is an FBI bait-n-switch? So while I disagree with the conclusion that is NOT TO SAY there isn't something very wrong with these documents... just not what you and John are concluding... A... Biggest problem is there are not 125 1/2 days in the semester in NYC when he starts on March 23, 1953. With 20-21 days of school per month... April, May June is 60-70 days of school at the most.... then summer, then he starts on Sept 14, 1954.... again, he did not go to summer school and they completely forget about the days in April/May 1954 spent at Youth House... no School administrator in their right mind would have put 109 3/2 days attendance from March 23 till the end of June. B...If you have access to the BJHS grade cards you'll see that ninth grade has a few problems... grades don't match and it only shows 5 total absences (8 on one card)... also notice they do not all have a homeroom number... With regards to Myra, the only thing I can figure is that she is talking about the Spring semester and her homeroom, not fall.... as I read the different passages on Myra I see she NEVER SAYS SEPTEMBER... The part time student in the FALL semester did not get a homeroom... but in the Spring he was now full-time... obviously LEE attended BJHS as well.... this would be Lee's grade card if it is authentic, which based on the grade and attendance discrepancies, is not likely. One interesting question then, is where was Harvey after North Dakota.... 2220 Thomas?

Ok Tracy - why would the US Marines offer the image on the right... when in the real world the man we know as Oswald is on the left? Unless the man on the right is a distance from the size chart (again - only reason to do that would be to distort the man's size) or the image was pasted onto a size chart the size of the man on the right is not accurate - not "true life size" but much larger than life. If in reality, 5'9" on the left is 5'11", the distortion on the right is even worse.... The man on the right, entering the marines is Lee... Harvey there on the left from New Orleans.... The scale of inches is the same across both images...

I'm obviously not the first to suggest this was not Bethesda's Autopsy Room - especially since these photos were so terribly lit and from terrible angles. etc.... And I know thing... "surely" would not be a word I'd use in this case about almost anything other than it was a conspiracy... at least not related to anything posed as "the truth" DJ http://www.manuscriptservice.com/AutopsyRoom/ A meeting in Dallas organized by Mr. Livingstone in 1991 was attended by autopsy technicians Paul O'Connor and James Jenkins and photographer Floyd Riebe. Part of the discussion is described in High Treason 2 as follows [1]: "There was a moment of quiet as the men studied the autopsy photographs. Then the bomb exploded: 'This doesn't even look like the morgue!' Paul said. 'What?' I exclaimed. 'That's true,' Jenkins said. 'It doesn't look like the morgue [at Bethesda].' Floyd Riebe said, 'No, I just noticed the floor.' 'What did the floor look like?' 'Well it was similar in design, but it was white!'The floor at Bethesda was stone tile. It was put in there so it would last for years.' 'What color was it?' 'It was white and black.' 'This area does not exist in that morgue,' Jenkins said. 'Does not!' Paul said. 'We have no wooden structures in the morgue.' 'The Bethesda floor had the small dots,' Floyd said. We saw them in the picture. 'We didn't have anything wooden in there,' Paul said. 'It does not look like the morgue,' Jenkins said."

Adding a little color to the hand.....

My photobucket account got locked... but you can still see that it is actually JFK's hand, not a foot.... There is literally no position JFK or Hill could be in that would allow that to be a foot.... start with that... in what position could JFK possibly be if that was his foot?

So.... where is the Casket, Gallery and what is that on wheels... where there is a door that opens into the room... The illustration comes from O'connor's DPUK article Fox 4 from the left side does appear to show that hallway, no mention of the phone tho...

It's copy pasted from 133-C so Ozzie fits into the ghost.... Here's the rotation I was talking about Given this, the ghost background is from a different time (no leaves on the trees) so the cutout/ghost could have been from 133-C (even though they were not supposed to know about 133-C for many years) and just placed over the blank background photo... but then when we put him back, it's all skewed.... Doesn't that conclusively prove that at least 133-C was created? If that doesn't prove it... this does... no?

As much as I respect JA and JH and the H&L conclusion, I'm with Bart on this one. Bledsoe is given the ARREST shirt description to use in her testimony... we all know now that the shirt and pants he wore to work were in his room... A button-down Briarloom... not missing 3 buttons or with a torn elbow as he hadn't gotten ganged up upon at the theater yet... Yep, Bledsoe here is real believable, especially since McWatters recants.... and Milton's statement is below that... the entire bus charade was created - I think - to avoid dealing with those who saw Oswald leave in a station wagon... and for what Fritz tried so hard to distance himself.... Craig: And the suspect interrupted him and said, "That station wagon belongs to Mrs. Paine"---I believe is what he said. "Don't try to tie her into this. She had nothing to do with it." Fritz: Mr. BALL - Now, what color shirt did he have on?Mrs. BLEDSOE - He had a brown shirt.Mr. BALL - And unraveled?Mrs. BLEDSOE - Hole in his sleeve right here [indicating].Mr. BALL - Which is the elbow of the sleeve? That is, you pointed to the elbow?Mrs. BLEDSOE - Well, it is.Mr. BALL - And that would be which elbow, right or left elbow?Mrs. BLEDSOE - Right.Mr. BALL - Did he have anything on. Was the shirt open or was it buttoned?Mrs. BLEDSOE - Yes; all the buttons torn off.Mr. BALL - What did he have on underneath that?Mrs. BLEDSOE - I don't know.Mr. BALL - Do you know the color of any undershirt he had on?Mrs. BLEDSOE - No. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1141#relPageId=930&tab=page

And yet we have pages of his ZRRIFLE notes detailing how to build an assassination unit.. the real CIA manual https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=56542#relPageId=2&tab=page

I’m sure I got something mixed up Chris... The image with the parallel white lines on either side of Oswald’s ghost image on the left. The center horizontal fence post is truly horizontal or the 2 to 4 degrees you mention. But In the actual image pasted into the ghost photo on the left, The center horizontal fence post support seems to need much more that 4 degrees of left rotation to make it true horizontal or at least much closer to the ghost images. Oswald is directly within the ghost cutout.... see the feet. My gif shows it even better.... I think this image shows what the fence SHOULD look like with Oswald standing in that position... but of course it doesn’t.... so, from which image is the ghost image on the left created, that pasting him back in does such strange things to the background? And doesn’t it make some sense that those white lines are guides so the composited Oswald matches the background more closely than what that top image suggests? I think i’m Saying the top image proves the byp images were created, composited.... as we felt or knew all along cause the 2 identical but not, images, are mutually exclusive. The ghost image on the left could not come from 133-C as is obvious from the above image.... edit... I see now that ghost image is not cut from 133-c, yet the argument remains valid... why would the background be so rotated n the 2 images?

Chris... it appears to me with the image of Oswald in the ghost background, that that's much more than a few degrees.... Take my image and rotate it left until the fence is horizontal using a photoshop line guide or whatever you like... I have little room to post images left, but that looks like a rotation of 20-30 degrees... his nose is to the left (facing the image) of his right knee

I was thinking more along the lines of the height as I thought you were of the opinion a 3rd story origin was way too high... Yet you do mention the idea of multiple Dal Tex shooters.... The top of the van is 10-12 feet it appears.... and from that angle - looking at Elm - I'd have to think the shot originated much higher up. 2nd AND 3rd floors?

Yet we need to orient the picture to a straight horizon.... to get the person into the image they had to rotate the background to the left if we put Oswald back, the change just jumps off the page.... rotate the image to the left to get the real extent of this lean.... One ghost has the two white parallel lines, the other on the left, not....

Chris.... Top of the VAN on Elm east of Houston?

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ok... so then Pat, what does this have to do with Lee Oswald being in the 2nd floor lunchroom between 12 and 12:30 and being seen by Mrs Reid, and then seen again around 12:33 coming from the same place she had seen him before only this time with a coke wearing a t-shirt? Those 2 events needn't be mutually exclusive... it would also give some credibility to the notion he had his lunch in a paper sack which he usually brings.... "cheese sandwiches + apple" ==== you recent post with Piper.... Oswald says he's going "up or out" Does this sound like he's staying in the Domino Room to eat? Whether this is or is not a 2nd Oswald in that building at the time, very little other than Fritz claiming Oswald said..... puts him down there eating lunch on the 1st floor. Mrs. REID now sees the T-shirted Oswald walk to the front of the 2nd floor; he then goes down and ultimately out. CRAIG sees Harvey as the overshirt he was wearing would look quite a lot lighter in the direct sun of Dealey... the image of CE150 is also very dark.... The man REID saw simple vanishes into the crowds. Mr. BELIN - I hand you Exhibit No. 150. Have you ever seen a shirt like this before? Does this look familiar to the shirt that the suspect might have been wearing when you saw him, or this man running toward the station wagon?Mr. CRAIG - It's the same type of shirt.Mr. BELIN - I believe you used the phrase, "light shirt". Would Exhibit 150 be darker than the shirt he was wearing?Mr. CRAIG - Uh--it looks darker in here--yes, uh-huh.

Hey Steve... Dr. Mantik wants to send you a survey at my recommendation but needs your email.... you can send it to davidjoseph2619@gmail.com and I will forward it to him... DJ

Y'all seem to forget that the FBI - SA DOLAN in fact - both took the microfilm and left it with Waldman There is absolutely no way to authenticate that what we see on the microfilm from "HIDELL" was ever on a Klein's order or ever on that microfilm... In this version (p188 WCD7) - with 3 FBI AGENTS - Waldman keeps the microfilm after they "find the records" and is reported as the GO TO MAN in the event the reel of film was necessary as evidence. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10408#relPageId=195&tab=page Problem being page 189 - the very next page in WCD7 states that we no longer have 3 FBI AGENTS but only one, SA DOLAN who provides a receipt for said microfilm and TAKES IT... we learn from the image below this that he has the film reproduced with a copy returned to WALDMAN... Since the original film is no longer in its box, sure would like a look at the COPY film... 3 FBI Agents sign a report saying the film was left with WALDMAN SA DOLAN writes his own, virtually identical report, but takes the film and has it reproduced.... We have no idea what images were on what films... And it is easily proven that payment fro said rifle is FUBAR.... DJ

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I've always thought the shooter was in the 3rd floor window, not second. Chris - can you prove the shot originated higher than lower? 30 feet over, how high up on DalTex? (sorry if I missed you posting that already)

Isn't this thread about Hoover and Tolson?

FWIW - what "Oswald said" as opposed to what the FBI/DPD/SS/USPS said he said is two different universes. DJ