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And traveled thru 90 yards of swirling wind with little drop in elevation? ”No way.”

I haven’t seen anything to indicate this was possible. https://www.cryptogon.com/?p=67681 <quote on> Former Secret Service agent, Paul Landis, found the Magic Bullet on the top of the back seat of the limo? Undercharged round??? Mmm hmm. Nealy 60 years after the JFK assassination, we now have Magic Bullet 2.0. Can anyone explain to me how the possibly “undercharged” Magic Bullet 2.0 managed to hit the target at all if the person firing the rifle dialed in DOPE [Data Observed from Previous Engagements?] for a standard velocity round? Not only did the “undercharged” Magic Bullet 2.0 have enough velocity to hit the target using DOPE for a standard round, but it then, “Dislodged from a shallow wound in the president’s back, falling back onto the limousine seat.” If you’re not familiar with shooting high powered rifles, run this scenario past someone who is has and note the response. It will go something like, “No way.” Personal experience: I’ve probably shot something like 15,000 centerfire rifle cartridges in my life, mostly 5.56, 7.62×51 and 7.62×39. Also, some larger stuff, .300 Winmag, .338, etc. How many of those do you think were “Undercharged”? None. Zero. Zilch. I had a few bad primers (under a handful) fail to fire in all of that time. I mostly fired old, cheap military surplus ammo and most of that was not made in the U.S. I don’t think I ever had a U.S. manufactured centerfire rifle round (Winchester, Federal, Remington, etc.) fail to fire. How many “undercharged” centerfire rifle cartridges have you encountered in your decades of shooting? Imagine the odds, on the big day almost 60 years ago… A defective cartridge? Tell me another one. Someone, somewhere might try to sell you on squib loads to explain this. I’m just here to tell you, in over forty years of shooting, it hasn’t happened to me, or any of my friends. (Somewhere on this site you can read about my wife’s cousin trying to kill a pig with a wet .22. That doesn’t count, because first, that’s rimfire, which is less reliable than centerfire and, second, it was wet.) </q>

SSA Glen Bennett described the back shot occurring right before the head shot(s). So an undercharged round had to travel 90 yards thru swirling wind losing little elevation. I’ve yet to see any proof that was possible.

Do 30.06 rounds leave shallow wounds in soft tissue?

I opened a special savings account.

Eclectic band.

Cairns: <quote on> This exploration does not intend to pinpoint the true perpetrators of President Kennedy's assassination, uncover the exact hideouts of the killers, unmask the orchestrators, or reveal those who facilitated the crime. As the late Mark Lane once succinctly put it, "That really calls for some speculation on my part, I think that area has been pre-empted by the Warren Commission, I prefer to stay in the area of fact." Honouring his words, this work strives not to speculate, but to illuminate the facts. </q> Fact: JFK suffered an entrance wound in soft tissue at T3, no exit. Fact: He had an entrance wound in the soft tissue of his throat, no exit. Fact: No bullets were found in those wounds. Fact: With the body in front of them, the autopsists formed a “general feeling” JFK was hit with a high tech round which dissolved. They asked the FBI men to investigate. Special Agent James Sibert called the FBI Lab to inquire. This was the First Investigation. It was short lived. Sibert was informed the single bullet was on the way to DC. Subject dropped. Fact: The CIA employed blood soluble flechettes in the MKNAOMI program at Fort Detrick, Maryland. Fact: Civilians employed at Fort Detrick briefed the FBI to look out for such technology in the hands of hostile foreign actors. This is a hard lead drawing attention to potential perps in the JFKA, entirely based on facts. The only hard lead in the case.

The clothing makes a first appearance in #12: The Testimony Which Negates the Single Bullet Theory. A better title: The Physical Evidence Which Negates the Single Bullet Theory.

Good enough! The clothing evidence proves that JFK wasn’t shot in the back with a 6.5mm FMJ round, which counterfeits the official scenario. All right, Cory, we’re on!

IF one of the sixty reasons is the fact that the bullet holes in JFK’s clothes are too low to associate with his throat wound — I’m buying Cory Santos a beer and a brat at a Vegas A’s game.

They routinely ignore the extant physical evidence — bullet defects in the clothes. Can’t take such incompetence seriously. I give Larry a pass. Getting a lecture on outlandish claims from Ben Cole! Imagine that. Can you imagine a shooter intentionally loading an under-charged round, hitting JFK in the back around Z190 with shallow penetration, to which JFK responded by balling his fists in front of his throat, and remaining mute and still for six seconds. Did any witnesses report the early back shot? No. Did JFK arch his back in pain? No. Warn the others of the attack? No. Duck out of the way? No. Have all the pet theories you want, Ben, but spare us the lectures on “serious” research.

Not at all. The Melvins belong on that KNAC poster. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melvins I saw them in 1990 in a bar on skid row in San Francisco. Tight band. Shirley Temple’s kid Lori Black on bass. A couple dozen people there. My kind of show!

My list of the most over-rated bands finds GNR and Pearl Jam at the top, with U2, REM, and the Police in another category of bad (I can’t stand whiny vocals unless they’re in the Beastie Boys).

Body Count, the Melvins and Neurosis. Just say’n...

Pete, on further review I have to challenge your “probably.” The head shot(s) was/were too high to account for the damage at T1, the back wound too low. That leaves the throat shot.

I really wish these computer animations would use the T3 back wound as the point of entry. But I get it — T3 is obviously too low for the SBT, rendering the entire exercise moot, meaningless. Can’t have that now, can we?

That was always a punk rock thing — no barriers between band and audience. We were all part of the show. Only omissions I can see are Venom, Nine Inch Nails and D.R.I.

They were already gung-ho in Laos. My bet is that Castro took the hint from the JFKA and started moving his Red Chinese donated heroin thru Geo. Bush’s Zapata Off-Shore.

Can’t forget the greatest band of all! Motörhead.

Me and my crew loved Metallica in 1985. Slayer, Megadeth, Exodus. The hardcore scene tired out for a lot of us that year, so we started listening to metal and rap, RunDMC, Grandmaster Flash, LL Cool J, Schoolly D. Was there ever as great a music decade as the 80’s?

Haven’t noticed. No Ben, you reliably repeat Trump talking points. I see you never criticize Trump for the fortunes he and his daughter made off the Chinese, the Saudis, and others — of which there is ample evidence — but you’ll repeat without proof every accusation against Biden. Hard partisan. Not at all. I equate your baseless smears on Biden with being pro-Trump. That’s your front, we get it.

I regard you the same way. You are innocent until a jury convicts you of crimes. Of course, it’s a smear to continue to insinuate that you’re a criminal. Right? Trump appointed Special Counsel David Weiss has investigated the Bidens for five years and came up with nothing on Joe. Not good enough for you to drop your smears, I guess. You never met a Trump talking point you couldn’t repeat...endlessly.

“The Post did not find evidence that Joe Biden personally benefited from or knew details about the transactions with CEFC, which took place after he had left the vice presidency and before he announced his intentions to run for the White House in 2020.” Is that question intellectually honest? A court of law for what? Asinine baseless partisan accusations, at which you excel? Trump paid more tax money to the Chinese in 2017 than to the US gov’t.

Unless you worked for the CIA or US Army Special Forces why would you ever see a blood soluble round? It’s not like such technology didn’t exist. http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/church/reports/vol1/pdf/ChurchV1_6_Senseney.pdf