On 8/15/2007 at 2:50 PM, Ron Ecker said:

Lawrence said that the car he borrowed for his date was a demonstrator. ...

He was afraid that the car would be towed, so a retired Air Force colonel who worked at the dealership and whose name he can’t remember drove him to where he left the car.

Ah yes. One of those blankety-blank Colonels again.

Steve Thomas

29 minutes ago, David Josephs said:

I believe TL Baker was responsible for the typed version of these notes....

Mr. BALL. Did somebody assist you in the preparation of that notebook? 
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir. 
Mr. BALL. Who was that? 
Mr. FRITZ. I had several officers assist me with this, and some secretaries, of course, that helped us with it. I had my lieutenant, T. L. Baker, help me to put this book together, this larger book, I think you have a copy of it there, and to make some additional books like this.
Of course, we worked the whole office ever since it happened so it is hard to say just who helped. 

David,

In January, 1964, Texas Attorney General Waggoner Carr turned over a copy of the DPD case file to the Warren Commission that had been given to him by the Dallas Police..

It consisted of three bound folders labeled a, b, and c. This comprises Commission Document 81 (CD81) and consists of 840 pages.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10483

Volume b was the Investigation of the Assassination of the President and starts on page 311 of this larger 3-volume case file.

I think that is the "larger book" that Fritz is referring to.

I have no idea what "additional books"  Fritz is referring to in addition to his "little notebook like this".

Steve Thomas

34 minutes ago, Jim Hargrove said:

 

Fritz clearly admits that “this report was made from rough notes and memory”  but it strikes me as utterly remarkable that it is undated and unsigned.  Do you have any clues about when it might have been composed and/or typed?

Jim,

No, I don't. I would be willing to guess that it was typed up by a stenographer, but I don't know who that was either.

I think it was done some time after Thomas Kelly submitted his interrogation report and the cat was out of the bag about the 12:35 Interview.

Steve Thomas

16 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

Steve,

Thanks for the handy links.  Do you think it was Fritz who had the following notes typed out?

3. Interrogation, by an unknown author. Draft of interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald, (Original), date unknown. 00001376 13 pages 05 03 003 1376-001.gif  1376-002.gif  1376-003.gif  1376-004.gif  1376-005.gif  1376-006.gif 1376-007.gif 1376-008.gif  1376-009.gif  1376-010.gif  1376-011.gif  1376-012.gif  1376-013.gif

Jim,

The citations you noted are in Box 5, Folder# 3, Item# 3 of the DPD Archives. This document mirrors CE 2003.

CE 2003 is the Dallas Police case file that the DPD turned over to Texas State Attorney General, Waggoner Carr, and forms the basis of Warren Commission Documents, 81 and 81b.

You see the number 138-A at the bottom of page 9 in the documents you cited? That is the DPD case file number.

Now compare that to page 268 of CE 2003. 

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140#relPageId=286&tab=page

The letter "I" has been added to the Warren Commission version. That is the "I" index for the DPD case file. (I think it was filed under "I" for Interrogations)

Whoever made the editorial changes that you see for example on page 9 of the DPD Archives document that are in Box 5, made those changes after the Warren Report came out.

Whoever made those changes had to have had access to the DPD archives.

I believe that this was a clumsy attempt to hide the fact that LHO was interrogated between 12:35 and 1:10 PM on Saturday afternoon the 23rd, where he was asked about the rifle pictures, some four hours before they were officially found.

There are two versions of Fritz's interview with Oswald in the DPD Archives. One is in Box 1 and another is in Box 15.

1) Interrogation, by an unknown author. Typed rough draft with handwritten corrections pertaining to the interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald, (Original), date unknown. DPD Archives Box 1, Folder# 15, Item# 1. Consists of 12 pages. This is the version of the Interrogation that has stenographer's notes.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box1.htm

On page 8 of that Report, it says that Oswald was brought down for an Interrogation at 12:35 PM on Saturday, November 23^rd. In this version, Fritz says that Oswald was brought to the office for another interview with Inspector Kelly (the name Kelly is corrected to Kelley), and “some of the other officers and myself”.

2) Interrogation, by J. W. Fritz. Draft of the interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald, (Photocopy) Poor Quality), date unknown DPD Archives, Box 15, Folder# 1, Item# 111. This consists of 13 pages. By starting new paragraphs as called for in the draft in Box 1, this draft has been extended to 13 pages. You can also see the differences between page 5 in Box1 and page 6 in Box 15 where Fritz wanted language added about the bus transfer in Oswald's pocket. This tells me that the draft in Box 1 came first.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box15.htm

On page 9 of this Box 15 version, the 12:35 time has been crossed out, and 6:00 PM has been written in.

There is an additional note written in that I can't make out. (Brd Int?/Bnd Intv?) Is Intv an abbreviation for Interview? (David Butler in the Education Forum suggested that this is “3^rd Interview). (Alistair Briggs of the Education Forum also pointed out that the note on page 10 of this version also shows an attempt to change the numbering of the Interrogations). If that's the case, in my mind, by changing the time from 12:35 to 6:00 PM, and by re-numbering the interviews, that's another indication of Fritz trying to hide the 12:35 interview. (In this version, Fritz says that those present were “Inspector Kelley and some of the other officers and myself”. There are other handwritten additions to this Report, indicating that at some point, someone went back in and tried to alter this version, since it so closely mirrors the copy found in Appendix XI of the Warren Report. I believe that the version on Box 15 was altered after the release of Appendix XI of the WR, CE 2003 and CD 81 were released.

Steve Thomas

6 hours ago, Tommy Tomlinson said:

 

Basically, any info on the interrogation and its subsequent dissemination would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Tommy,

I'm assuming you've read Fritz's interrogation notes you can find here:

http://www.jfklancer.com/Fritzdocs.html

You can find a bunch of citations in the DPD Archives, in the Index under Interrogations here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/image_index1.pdf

You can also find a draft in Box Box 5, Folder# 3, Item# 3 here:

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box5.htm

Steve Thomas

2 hours ago, Tony Krome said:

Can you clear this up for me? I've probably missed something, but how did the police dispatcher know to state the following;

"Suspect running west on Jefferson from the location"

Specifically, the suspect is "running" and heading "west"

It's at the 1:19 section;

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

Thanks

Tony,

For myself, I've always been interested in this passage:

1:44 PM

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

Steve Thomas

1 minute ago, Steve Thomas said:

Project Idealist:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80T01137A000500020001-3.pdf

Steve Thomas

Project Idealist:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp63-00313a000500140033-6

"14 OCT 1963
MEMORANDUM FOR THE RECORD
SUBJECT: Project IDEALIST - Status
1. Project IDEALIST is the employment of the U-2 over
denied areas to obtain high resolution photographic data of
technical intelligence quality. Of increasing importance in
recent years has been its secondary capability of SIGINT
collection.
2. The Project has in its inventory nine U-2 aircraft,
seven of which are J-75 configured with the two additional...

Steve Thomas

On 4/19/2019 at 12:51 PM, Steve Thomas said:

Michael,

Only the declassified activities of the CIA participation in U-2 Project Aquatone and Air Force Project Idealist are posted herein. 6 131,815 35 149. This page was ...

Steve Thomas
 

Project Idealist:

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP80T01137A000500020001-3.pdf

I didn't know that U-2's could land aboard ships, and I didn't know that there were U-3's.

Steve Thomas

Just speculating...

But, if McCord had something to do with the U-2 program,

and Oswald had anything to do with Francis Gary Powers getting shot down,

is it possible McCord was aware of Oswald beyond what he might have read in the newspapers?

Steve Thomas

On 4/10/2019 at 4:33 PM, Michael Clark said:

@Paul Jolliffe

here is that Oxcart/U2 connection.

1. As a result of the recent assignment of
on indefinite TDY to NSA, this Office has decided on a realignment of
responsibilities relative to OSI participation in Projects AQUATONE

 

Michael,

PROJECT AQUATONE - OPERATIONAL CONCEPT

https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp62b00844r000200080051-9

Document Type: 

CREST

Collection: 

General CIA Records

Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): 

CIA-RDP62B00844R000200080051-9

Publication Date: 

February 5, 1958

Content Type: 

SUMMARY

File: 

Body: 

PROJECT AQUATONE - OPERATIONAL CONCEPT
1. Objectives:
a. Primary objective of the proposed operations is to obtain coverage
of 23 extremely high priority targets in the USSR. For operational planning
purposes these targets have been grouped into some 13 areas each having
homogeneous weather. Three areas have been determined to have higher
priority than the other ten.

Document Type: 

CREST

Collection: 

General CIA Records

Document Number (FOIA) /ESDN (CREST): 

CIA-RDP62B00844R000200260063-6

Publication Date: 

January 26, 1956

Body: 

ApproO F It @VY63/01/24: CIA-RDP62B00844ROO4200260063-6
26 January 1956
MEMORANDUM FOR: Director of Central Intelligence
SUBJECT Project AQUATONE
1. Project AQUA TONE in its procurement phase consists of
the production and delivery of planes and equipment designed particularly
for intelligence purposes. Since, therefore, it is of joint interest to the
Air Force and the Central Intelligence Agency, the procurement has been
joint, with the Central Intelligence Agency entering into all major contracts

http://area51specialprojects.com/sp_u2.html

Declassified Legacy of the Secret Heroes of the CIA and Air Force U-2 ...

area51specialprojects.com/sp_u2.html

Only the declassified activities of the CIA participation in U-2 Project Aquatone and Air Force Project Idealist are posted herein. 6 131,815 35 149. This page was ...

Steve Thomas

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4 hours ago, Stephanie Goldberg said:

It's a tantalizing what if at best, but it started me thinking.  So many things seemed to have been unresolved from the early research of many people who were on the scene.  Could be dead ends.  Maybe not.  -shrugs-  

Stephanie,

Ah yes. The wonderful world of JFK assassination research.

Steve Thomas

Linda Minor also wrote a piece in 2011 on the Dal-Tex Building and it's role in the Dallas textile and fashion industry.

http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/dal-tex-building-at-501-elm-in-dallas.html

Steve Thomas

On 4/11/2019 at 12:42 AM, Stephanie Goldberg said:

 

A note from Seth Kantor's notebook in the Warren Commission exhibits says in part - 

"Ask Fritz --

1 - Who N.C. preacher who tipped them about the mail-order purchase?

2 - 501 Elm is place that processed photo.  What are details of photo (showing gun & Daily Worker head: "Be Militant")"

501 Elm is the Dal-Tex building, isn't it?  Did they have a photo processing facility in March of 1963 among their offices?  I couldn't find that information.  And where did Mr. Kantor obtain this information about where the photo was allegedly processed?  

 

 

Stephanie,

Here's a pretty good shot of the two buildings, I think; with the Dal-Tex on the right, and the TSBD on the left.

The rifle photos were supposedly taken in March. Oswald didn't go to work at the TSBD until October.

If John is right, those publishing companies would still have been located in the Dal-Tex building at the time the photos were taken. I wonder why they moved en masse.

I still don't see any photo developing companies located at 501 Elm - at least in the 1961 City Directory.

Steve Thomas

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Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Stephanie Goldberg said:

Steve,

Thanks so much for your help, with the phone directory listings and the above listings!  It's greatly appreciated.  🙂

Stephanie,

In reading up about the building at 501 Elm, I ran across several references that said the building was more or less devoted to textiles.

( Aside from the Mort Freedman, Dallas Uranium and Oil Company, and Marilyn Belts - who all shared the same telephone number).

There's a woman named Linda Minor, who writes a blog called, Quixotic Joust. She explored the topic of uranium exploration among rich Dallasites here:

http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/other-uranium-explorers-in-texas-in.html

“Other Uranium Explorers in Texas in the 1950's “

She talks about the shadowy Dallas Uranium and Oil Company in the Dal-Tex building, and more.

How close was D.H. Byrd - owner of the TSBD and President of Byrd Uranium Co. and Byrd Oil Co. to the Dallas Uranium and Oil Co. at 501 Elm? I don't know. It's an interesting question.

To go back to your original question; didn't the type of camera used to take the Oswald rifle pictures develop the photos inside the camera itself?

Perhaps David Joseph could answer that question. I know old Polaroid cameras used to develop pictures that way.

Among Oswald's possessions seized by the police after JFK's assassination were a number of rolls of 35mm film - both exposed and unexposed. I had the same question you did. Where did Oswald get those rolls of film developed?

Steve Thomas

2 hours ago, David Boylan said:

Casasin mentions the "Harvey" story.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=189698&relPageId=8&search=AEOCEAN

The AEOCEAN crypt - https://www.maryferrell.org/php/cryptdb.php?id=AEOCEAN-3&search=AEOCEAN

 

David,

Thanks for this.

It strengthens my personal belief that the "Harvey Lee Oswald" dossier tracks back to Oswald's "defection" to the USSR.

Steve Thomas

7 hours ago, Tony Krome said:

 

Who was with De MOHRENSCHILDT when he first met the Oswalds?

Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Lawrence Orlov--he is an American, but he has a Russian name for some reason--maybe his great- grandfather came from Russia.

Tony,

This is what I have gathered on Orlov so far:

Lawrence Orlov:

From Robert Howard in the Education Forum Posted August 27, 2006

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/7738-colonel-lawrence-orlov/

As a reference point, Colonel Orlov was with George DeMohrenschildt when George paid his first visit to Lee and Marina Oswald, a visit which George DeMohrenschildt maintained in his unpublished manuscript found Orlov captivated by Marina, so to speak.

From Robert Howard in the Education Forum 1/27/2007

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/7738-colonel-lawrence-orlov/

Well, Orlov apparently has been been at least interviewed, in [Anthony Summers] Not in Your Lifetime it states:

"When Oswald and his Soviet wife came to the United States, in 1962, Russian émigré de Mohrenschildt was in the area and available, an excellent candidate if someone was needed to pump Oswald on his Russian adventure. He and his wife always claimed they encountered Oswald by chance, in Autumn that year, following a casual introduction by friends in the Russian community. Over the years, however, the participants have differed as to precisely how it came about. One early version was that they were taken to see Oswald by a Dallas businessman of Russian descent, Col Lawrence Orlov. Orlov, though, told an interviewer that when that meeting took place it was obvious the Oswald's and the de Mohrenschildt's had met before. De Mohrenschildt told the FBI after the assassination that they had been introduced by the doyen of the affluent Russian colony in Dallas, George Bouhe. Bouhe said it did not happen that way."

A Record from Mary's Database:

Record: ORLOV, LAWRENCE COL.

https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=7127

Dallas oil man. Friend of George deMohrenschildt. Orlov and deMohrenschildt went to Ft. Worth in 1962 to call on the Oswalds.

From James Richards in the Education Forum 1/28/2007:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/7738-colonel-lawrence-orlov/

Robert,

Just to add some color, Lawrence Orlov was a competition volleyball player and his team trained and played at the YMCA (this would have been from the mid 1950's through to the early 1960's).

One of Orlov's team mates was a guy by the name of Jim Iles who had connections to the oil industry and was also allegedly associated with Jack Ruby, both men working out there.

From Robert Howard in the Education Forum 4/10/2007:

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/7738-colonel-lawrence-orlov/&page=2

The FBI interviewed Col Lawrence Orlov; on 3-4-1964 FBI SA Raymond Yelchak filed a record of his interview with the Colonel.

Col Lawrence Orlov, 511 N. Akard Building, furnished the following information:

About a year ago in October, 1962 a friend of his, GEORGE DEMOHRENSCHILDT, asked him if he would like to meet a young Russian girl at Fort Worth, Texas. They both proceeded to Fort Worth on business and later that same day GEORGE took him to meet MARINA OSWALD. They spent a few minutes in conversation with MARINA and were interrupted by LEE HARVEY OSWALD's return from work. OSWALD seemed to be a genial sort of person. The conversation was held in the Russian language however ORLOV however ORLOV does not believe the conversation was of any consequence. He stated GEORGE informed him that MARINA was in great fear of her husband and he [GEORGE] was attempting to help them get settled. ORLOV indicated that a few months later GEORGE casually mentioned that he and some others [he did not mention any names] were talking about arranging to get a divorce for MARINA OSWALD in view of the mistreatment she was receiving from her husband. GEORGE gave no indication that the OSWALDS were aware of this. ORLOV stated he had no other information in regards to the OSWALDS.

From Robert Howard in the Education Forum 7/15/2007:

Paper: Patriot-News, The (Harrisburg, PA)

Deceased: Lawrence Orlov

Date: September 22, 1989

CARLISLE - Lawrence Orlov, 90, formerly of Dallas, died yesterday in Forest Park Nursing Center.

He was a member of the Unitarian Church, a retired oil and gas operator, a veteran of World Wars I and II and a Mason.

WC testimony of George DeMohrenschildt:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/demohr_g.htm

Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. My best recollection--I even cannot recall who gave me their address in Fort Worth. I don't recall that. Either George Bouhe or the Clarks, because the Clarks knew them already, Max and Gali Clark, because they were from Fort Worth, you see.
And I think a few days later somebody told me that they live in dire poverty. Somewhere in the slums of Fort Worth.
I had to go on business to Fort Worth with my very close friend, Colonel Orlov.
Mr. JENNER. What is his first name?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Lawrence Orlov--he is an American, but he has a Russian name for some reason--maybe his great- grandfather came from Russia.
And to my best recollection, Lawrence and I were on some business in Fort Worth, and I told him let's go and meet those people, and the two of us drove to this slum area in Fort Worth and knocked at the door, and here was Marina and the baby. Oswald was not there.

Mr. JENNER. She answered the door.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.
Mr. JENNER. You identified yourself?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I said a few words in Russian, I said we are friends of George Bouhe. I think he was already helping them a little bit, giving them something for the baby or Something. I think he had already been in--he helps everybody. He has been helping her especially.

Steve Thomas

Stephanie,

John Butler is absolutely right. The pages i posted were from a 1961 City Directory and are not helpful in your search for 1963 occupants of the Dal-Tex Bldg.

I should have done a better job in my research.

I did run across one item that might help.

I cannot speak for the accuracy or authority of this web post.

Posting by Chris Scally in the JFK Assassination Forum 1/24/18

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=108.0

Robert:

Don't know if the following is of any help, but the following is what I have regarding the occupants of the Dal-Tex Building in 1963:

First Floor – Vacant

Second Floor –
•   McKell’s Sportswear Inc. – women’s clothing manufacturer (Hank Stanton, who is seen in the famous Altgens photo sitting on the window ledge on the second floor, worked for – and/or was - the son of the owner of a women’s clothes manufacturing business on second floor. But was it McKell’s?)
•   Stan Lea of Dallas (blouse manufacturer)

Third Floor –
•   Miller-Cupaioli (Clothing). The company changed its name to Miller-Randazzo in 1964. Assassination eye-witnesses Carolyn Walther and Pearl Springer worked for this company.
•   Some sources have indicated that Dallas Uranium & Oil had offices on this floor

Fourth Floor –
Jennifer Juniors Inc. (Zapruder’s company. His office was on this floor). Among the employees were Marilyn Sitzman (receptionist), Lillian Rogers (Zapruder's secretary and PA), Beatrice Hester (Payroll / Shipping Clerk), and Erwin Schwartz, Zapruder's business partner. I have a photo somewhere in my files of Zapruder and some of his staff in January 1957, and there were about 24-30 people in the photo.

Fifth Floor –
•   Edwill's Fashions, Inc.
•   Ralph Leeds Inc.
•   Cupaioldi & Leeds
•   Jennifer Juniors

Sixth Floor –
•   Marilyn Belt Manufacturing Co. (began operations in 1944) - Andy Armstrong worked here for two months in January 1962, before going to work for Jack Ruby in the Carousel Club. Morty (or Marty) Freedman was said to own Marilyn Belt, and the manager was E.L. Nelson. The plant Supervisor was a woman named Virgle Batson
•   Morty Freeman Inc.
•   Dallas Uranium & Oil. (All three companies above were said to have the same shared telephone number)

Seventh Floor –
Mr. Eddie Inc.
MGB Manufacturing
Adaptables Inc.


Hope this helps, but if anyone has any further detail, I, too, would be interesting in hearing about them.

Chris

 I apologize for the formatting. I can't figure out how to get rid of it.

Steve Thomas

On 4/11/2019 at 12:42 AM, Stephanie Goldberg said:

Since I'm pretty new here, I realize this may have already been covered.  I did try to search the forum, but I couldn't find anything exactly like this.

If Marina took the gun photos of Oswald on March 31, 1963, where did they have the film developed?   And when?  

If Oswald was still working at Jaggers-Chiles-Stovall then, he could have potentially developed them himself, except I think he lost his job right around then, didn't he? 

A note from Seth Kantor's notebook in the Warren Commission exhibits says in part - 

"Ask Fritz --

1 - Who N.C. preacher who tipped them about the mail-order purchase?

2 - 501 Elm is place that processed photo.  What are details of photo (showing gun & Daily Worker head: "Be Militant")"

501 Elm is the Dal-Tex building, isn't it?  Did they have a photo processing facility in March of 1963 among their offices?  I couldn't find that information.  And where did Mr. Kantor obtain this information about where the photo was allegedly processed?  

 

 

Stephanie,

According to the 1961 Dallas Yellow Pages, there were a number of publishers that had their offices at 501 Elm. Here's a couple of copies:

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth806907/m1/303/zoom/?q=501%20Elm&resolution=1&lat=2495.0833288165322&lon=445.6666576330641

I didn't see anything under Photographic Developing (pages 276 and 277).

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth806907/m1/297/?q=page%20270

Steve Thomas

On 12/10/2017 at 12:03 PM, Bart Kamp said:

Joe Molina passed away July 8th 2017.

Thanks to Vinny for forwarding me the news.

Bart,

CE 2003 is a list of TSBD employees that Westphal and Parks gave to Pat Gannaway thru Jack Revill.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140#relPageId=277&tab=page

Assuming that the 2nd column headed "INT", stands for those people in the DPD's Intelligence files, there are only two names that have a reference number: Joe Molina's and a Mrs. J.E. Dean.

Would you know anything about Mrs. Dean?

Steve Thomas

10 hours ago, Jim Hargrove said:

I still can’t imagine why LHO would have moved from Dallas to New Orleans in 1963 unless someone was paying him to do so, 

Jim,

About the only thing we have to go on are the words of Marina, and to me, these are confusing.

"Mrs. OSWALD. Soon after that, Lee lost his job---I don't know for what reason. He was upset by it. And he looked for work for several days. And then I insisted that it would be better for him to go to New Orleans where he had relatives. I insisted on that because I wanted to get him further removed from Dallas and from Walker, because even though he gave me his word, I wanted to have him further away, because a rifle for him was not a very good toy---a toy that was too enticing.
Mr. RANKIN. Did you say that you wanted him to go to New Orleans because of the Walker incident?
Mrs. OSWALD. No. I simply told him that I wanted to see his home town. He had been born there.

Did she insist because of the Walker thing, or just because she wanted to see his home town?  It's confusing.

I don't remember if he told Lillian Murret why he was in NO. She just said he was there to look for a job.

Steve Thomas

On 4/8/2019 at 10:04 AM, Jim Hargrove said:

I can't name another person who was employed by both the FBI and the CIA, but I'd be surprised if that would be public knowledge. 

Jim,

One possible source of info might lie in the ranks of the Wackenhut Corporation.

One of their main recruiting tools was that the company had a lot of ex-FBI agents as employees.

From what I've read, Hoover despised the man and made it known that no one in the FBI should have anything to do with him.

WACKENHUT CORPORATION INFORMATION ABOUT THE START OF THE CORPORATION

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=26816&relPageId=3&search=Wackenhut

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, David Josephs said:

 

From what I can tell... he was in reality an aircraft mechanic, not a radar operator...  gives Harvey and Lee another notch in the "Pro" column

DJ

David,

Just for some background perspective only:

History Of Keesler Air Force Base

https://www.keesler.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/360538/history-of-keesler-air-force-base/

In early 1949, Air Training Command decided that Keesler should focus its efforts on teaching radar, radio, and electronics maintenance and repair. To make room, the airplane and engine mechanics courses had to be moved elsewhere. Especially since the Air Force also planned to transfer the Radio Operations School to Keesler from Scott AFB, Illinois. In addition to training radio operators, Keesler was to begin teaching air traffic service technicians; aircraft approach controllers, ground radar mechanics, and radar repairman/ground controlled approach specialists. The last mechanics training courses had moved to Sheppard AFB, Texas, by November, and it was at this point in the base's history that Keesler became known as the "Electronics Training Center of the Air Force." 

The Korean War and the Fifties: 1950 - 1959 

In August 1950, Keesler embarked on a major rebuilding program to upgrade its facilities across the board. The first phase of this project called for the construction of a new electronics laboratory, barracks, and a dining hall for a total cost of $14 million. In 1951, Congress appropriated an additional $44 million to complete Keesler's reconstruction. Plans included four two-story academic buildings (later named Allee, Dolan, Thomson, and Wolfe Halls), a 352-bed hospital, modern family housing units, and a three-story dormitory complex dubbed "the triangle" because of its distinctive layout. 

The 1950s also meant organizational change for Keesler. Since August 1948, the 3380th Technical Training Wing had controlled all base activities. Under it were four subordinate units: the 3380th Technical Training Group, which operated the school; the 3380th Maintenance and Supply Group; the 3380th Air Base Group; and the 3380th Medical Group. In 1955, a fifth group was added: the 3380th Installations Group. That arrangement continued until 1 January 1959, when Air Training Command redesignated the wing as Headquarters, Keesler Technical Training Center (KTTC). At the same time, the training group was redesignated as the 3380th Technical School, USAF, and all of its subordinate student squadrons were renamed school squadrons. 

Technical Training 

Keesler's modernization required more than expanded facilities. For example, Keesler began using television instruction methods as early as June 1953. In 1950, Keesler offered only 14 generalized courses, but by December 1959 that number had grown to 116, including vital USAF programs such as the aircraft warning and control system. 

In early 1956, Keesler entered the missile age by opening a ground support training program for the SM-65 Atlas intercontinental ballistic missile. In addition, school personnel were developing training methods for the newly adopted semi-automatic ground environment (SAGE) system, an integrated defense net intended to protect the United States from Soviet air attack. The base gained even more responsibility in 1958, when the Air Force announced that Scott AFB would relinquish its training mission. As a result, all control tower operator, radio maintenance, a n d general radio operator courses came to be under Keesler's already broad technical training roof. 

Steve Thomas

Memorandum

Quigley waited until February of 1964 to ask Martello why he thought Oswald wanted to talk to an FBI agent?

Steve Thomas