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  1. If there was a conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy, I have been mulling over the question lately as to who paid for it. There would have been a lot of things to finance: the weapons, the assassins, food, lodging, transportation, fake id's, fake passports, etc. It seems like it is not enough to just say that JFK's assassination was a classic military-style ambush with triangulation of fire. The assassination attempt against Charles DeGaulle at Petit-Clamart in 1962 involved military people too, and look at how amateurish that was with people blasting away with tommy submachine guns to no avail.


    JFK researchers spend a lot of time talking about the trajectory of shots, and film alteration, and who had the most compelling motive, but I don't see much of how the hit was paid for. There's the old adage of “follow the money”, but in this case I don't think you are going to find a lot of cancelled checks lying around. You have to kind of reverse engineer the whole question, and ask, who had that kind of money to spend.


    For what it's woth, I'll toss this out:

    My money (if you'll excuse the pun) is on those people interested in exploiting the natural resources (particularly oil and natural gas) of the Central Asian land mass that forms the bridge between the Middle East and China; more colloquially known as Eurasia. I have read three things lately that are shaping my thinking right now:


    1)

    Peter Dale Scott COPA Conference 11/24/2010

    http://archive.politicalassassinations.net/2010/11/peter-dale-scott-the-jfk-assassination-as-an-engineered-provocation-deception-plot/

     

    (Jack) Crichton, an oil engineer and corporation executive, also doubled as a member of the Dallas overworld. Although his 488th intelligence unit consisted almost 50 percent of Dallas policemen, Crichton also used it as a venue in the late 1950s to conduct “a study of Soviet oil fields;” and in the 1990s Crichton would himself explore the oil and gas reserves in the former Soviet Union. Also interested in Soviet oil reserves at this time were Ilya Mamantov’s employers and personal friends, the wealthy Pew family in Dallas who were owners of Sunoco. By 2009 the second largest source of crude for Sunoco (after Western Africa) was Central Asia, supplying 86,000 barrels of crude a day.”


    2)

    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    

    https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-298-gladio-b-and-the-battle-for-eurasia/

     

    “But more important even than its location and strategic value are the region’s vast, largely untapped resources. The oil and gas fields of the Caspian Sea region are particularly sought after, containing the third-largest reserves of any fields on the planet. Azerbaijan in the Caucasus and Kazakhstan in Central Asia both have direct access to Caspian Sea oil, with Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan providing ample gas reserves. The dream of a Trans-Caspian pipeline has been in the works for years now to transport Central Asian reserves across to the Southern Caucasus and the so-called “BTC” pipeline funneling the energy through Azerbaijan and Georgia to Turkey has been equally prized as a way for Europe to find an alternative to Russia’s increasingly-threatening stranglehold over energy known as Gazprom. The region also contains strategically important deposits of uranium as well as industrially useful minerals including copper, manganese, turngsten and zinc.

     

    As one example of this interest, I present to you the U.S.-Azerbaijan Chamber of Commerce, an organization that sounds about as important to global geopolitics as the Groningen Chamber of Commerce. But look at its list of current and former advisors, chairmen and directors: former Vice President Dick Cheney, Bush family advisor James Baker III and his son James Baker IV, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, Richard Armitage and, of course, former National Security Advisor and perennial Washington insider Zbigniew Brzezinski. This Chamber of Commerce boasts some of the most influential figures in US foreign policy in the past half century amongst its ranks. What is it they see that the general public doesn’t?

     

    In 1904 the Geographical Journal published an article that articulated the reason that these great powers were engaged in the struggle for this piece of the globe.

    The article was called “The Geographical Pivot of History” and was written by Sir Halford John Mackinder PC, the Director of the London School of Economics...

    The Geographical Pivot of History” is the document that is often said to be the founding document of geopolitics and constitutes the first formulation of what would come to be called the “Heartland Theory.”

    “Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;

    Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;

    Who rules the World-Island commands the World.”

    Looking at the map of what Mackinder had in mind for the Heartland it’s apparent that the “heart” of this Heartland is indeed the Central Asia-Caucasus region.”


    3)

    https://theintercept.com/2017/07/22/donald-trump-and-the-coming-fall-of-american-empire/

    In the Shadows of the American Century: The Rise and Decline of US Global Power PaperbackSeptember 15, 2017

    by Alfred W. MCCoy (Author)

     

    “One of the key things that I think very few people understand, after World War II, the United States became the first world power, the first empire in a 1000 years to control both ends of the vast Eurasian continent. Now Eurasia, that enormous landmass, is the epicenter of world power. It’s got the resources, the people, the civilizations that—you’ve got to control that to control the world. And the United States, through the NATO alliance in Western Europe and a string of alliances along the Pacific littoral with Japan, South Korea, the Philippines and Australia, controlled the axial ends of the Eurasian landmass.”

    By the end of the Cold War we have about 800 overseas military bases.

    Most of those were arrayed around the Eurasian landmass.”


    I would encourage everyone to read numbers 2 and 3. They were a real eye opener for me anyway.


    I think JFK was killed because he believed in self determination, and allowing smaller nation states to have control over their own natural resources. The powers that be couldn't allow that.


    Steve Thomas

  2. On 6/29/2017 at 1:43 AM, Steve Thomas said:

    Lately, I've also been mulling over the idea of "resentment as motive", and tying that to individuals who were demoted and shipped off to Europe to get them out of the way.

    Wasn't Bill Harvey demoted and sent off to be Station Chief in Rome?  

    Although Dulles wasn't transferred when he was fired, his connections to the OSS in Bern during WWII would qualify him to be included in this mix I think.

    NATO’s Secret Armies. Operation GLADIO and the Strategy of Tension

    "JC:  Returning to Lemnitzer, he’s in charge of the group that suggests this, (Operation Northwoods) and then he becomes Head of NATO around the same time when these stay-behind armies start to morph into something much more hideous.

     

    DG:  Yes, that’s right, and we must thank JFK that when he learned of Operation Northwoods, he rejected it. However, he then had the problem of what to do with this top general Lemnitzer, who was clearly nuts (in the sense that he planned terrorism in the US). Kennedy now suspected that the military-industrial-complex was more dangerous than he had realised, so he judged that he needed to move Lemnitzer sideways to another high position (maybe slightly lower) so that it wouldn’t look like a demotion. He came up with the idea of NATO Commander in Europe. A year later, in 1963, Kennedy was assassinated. Although it’s still unclear who killed him, we do know that he tried to confront what Eisenhower, in his farewell address, called the military-industrial-complex. (It’s no hoax, as some people think; the military-industrial-complex exists, and the documents of Operation Northwoods prove that it plans fabricated terrorist attacks.)"

     

    So, in this sense, was the JFK assassination a foreign-born conspiracy?

     

    Steve Thomas

     

  3. 54 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:

    Steve, I've been studying this area a good deal recently for a sequal for Shadow Warfare - Its always been a game of playing foreign powers against each other, and they are extremely good at it (given that they had empires whichlasted for centuries before any of today's super powers that might not be unexpected).

    One of the things that comes out of all of this is how astute and sanguine JFK was in regard to international affairs, to anti-colonialism, to nationalism...his strategic understanding is virtually unique (not even going to how badly we are just about to jump off the deep end now).

     

    Larry,

     

    I had a conversation with Jim DiEugenio recently about the idea that JFK was killed because of his belief in self-determination and allowing smaller States to control their own natural resources. I think I know where JFK would have stood with respect to Iran and its own oil. I had a conversation with Paul Brancato I think it was, about the role that Russian oil in the Central Asian "Stan" states played when looking at people like Jack Crichton and  Everett Lee DeGoyler. Like you said, the Caucasus is with us, even today.

     

    Steve Thomas

  4. 1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

    Interestingly while the CIA made a lot of preparations and took a lot of credit for the coup, several Iranian historical studies give a much more nuanced view, bringing both the Soviet and British activities into the mix as well as the complex Iranian internal politics of the time.  Several good books on this, one being "Nationalism in Iran" by Richard Cottam.  As with the CIA in Guatemala, other factors (including the harsh American naval blockade and a Navy task group with Marine landing craft poised offshore) came into play in these CIA "successes".  Not to mention Rip Robertson's unsanctioned sinking of a freighter during that blockade.

    The Iranian coup is certainly more complex than it appeared to me when I first started studying it strictly from the CIA involvement.

    Larry,

     

    I only skimmed through these papers briefly, but you're right about the situation being "nuanced". I read with some amusement about the concern of Iran falling into Russia's sphere of influence. We can see that playing out even today. There was concern about Iran becoming a Russian puppet state. Gee, I wonder how the Iranians felt about that idea?  :-)

     

    I also read with a certain curiosity that not everyone was thrilled with propping up the British. Not everyone was an Anglophile. Now, the loss of Iranian oil - that everyone could agree on. It was interesting to see the worry about the "communist takeover domino affect" playing out in peoples' minds with respect to the Middle East as well as Southeast Asia should Iran fall. They just couldn't get the Shah to get off the pot could they?

     

    Steve Thomas

  5. US quietly publishes once-expunged papers on 1953 Iran coup

    By JON GAMBRELL

    Today

    https://apnews.com/5111167bcaf84892b01eea93eea4bc01/US-quietly-publishes-once-expunged-papers-on-1953-Iran-coup

     

    The 1,007-page report ,  https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1951-54Iran comprised of letters and diplomatic cables, shows U.S. officials discussing a coup up to a year before it took place. While America worried about Soviet influence in Iran, the British remained focused on resolving a dispute over the nationalization of the country’s oil refinery at Abadan, at the time one of the world’s largest. Many also feared further instability following the 1951 assassination of Premier Ali Razmara.

    “Nationalization of the oil industry possibly combined with further assassinations of top Iran officials, including even the shah, could easily lead to a complete breakdown of the Iran government and social order, from which a pro-Soviet regime might well emerge leaving Iran as a satellite state,” one undated CIA analysis from the report warned.

    Out of that fear grew TPAJAX, the CIA codename for the coup plot. Papers show the CIA at one point “stockpiled enough arms and demolition material to support a 10,000-man guerrilla organization for six months,” and paid out $5.3 million for bribes and other costs, which would be equivalent to $48 million today. One CIA document casually refers to the fact that “several leading members of these (Iranian) security services are paid agents of this organization.”

     

    Steve Thomas

  6. 4 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

    If Army is interpreted as Military overall and you step up a level from Lansdale to someone who Might be entrusted with knowledge to ensure that aspect was controlled for say a Harriman or David Rockefeller you might consider General Curtis Le May. 

    Ron,

     

    You might also consider Lyman Lemnitzer. 

    http://www.progressivepress.com/blog-entry/50-years-after-jfk-murder-finger-finally-points-pentagon-chief-lemnitzer

     

    Steve Thomas

  7. 4 hours ago, George Sawtelle said:

    Talbot names Dulles, Harvey and Angleton as key members of the plot to kill Kennedy. I believe he leaves out one important member who assured Dulles of the army's support for the coup. Who was the mystery man?

    George,

     

    I don't know if you have a specific person in mind with your post, but if there was a military presence in a coup or a plot, it would have to be someone who could assure the others that the army would have command and control of the civilian population in the event of a domestic upheaval. A while back I was reading about the Cloverleaf Exercises that were conducted in the 1950's and 60's. Control of the civilian population in the event of a large scale emergency like a nuclear attack was a component of those military exercises.

    If there was a conspiracy to assassinate JFK, and that conspiracy was domestic in nature, should that ever get out, you can rest assured that the civilian population would be pretty upset.

    Intertwined with this would be the Continuity of Government (COG) studies done by Peter Dale Scott, et.al.

    This is an interesting article:    http://www.globalresearch.ca/state-of-emergency-and-continuity-of-government-what-is-the-real-reason-the-government-is-spying-on-americans/5338508

     

    My two cents.

     

    Steve Thomas

  8. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

     

    I thought they were going to gun us down’: White nationalists disrupt Florida racial justice seminar


    A goup of white supremacists barged into a racial justice training course in south Florida on Saturday, frightening organizers and attendees — who believed they were about to get shot in a Dylann Roof-style assault.

     

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    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/i-thought-they-were-going-to-gun-us-down-white-nationalists-disrupt-florida-racial-justice-seminar/

     

    I don't regret anything is, of course, is the song made famous by Edith Piaf. Not only is it hauntingly beautiful, but it makes a good marching song. Is that a two-four beat? I don't know. Maybe a music major can say.

    ""Non, je ne regrette rien" meaning "No, I regret nothing") is a French song composed byCharles Dumont, with lyrics by Michel Vaucaire. It was written in 1956, and is best known through Édith Piaf's 1959 recording, which spent seven weeks atop the French Singles & Airplay Reviews chart

    Piaf dedicated her recording of the song to the French Foreign Legion. At the time of the recording, France was engaged in a military conflict, the Algerian War (1954–1962), and the 1st REP (1st Foreign Parachute Regiment) — which backed the failed 1961 putsch against president Charles de Gaulle and the civilian leadership of Algeria – adopted the song when their resistance was broken. The leadership of the Regiment was arrested and tried but the non-commissioned officers, corporals and Legionnaires were assigned to other Foreign Legion formations. They left the barracks singing the song, which has now become part of the French Foreign Legion heritage and is sung when they are on parade."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non,_je_ne_regrette_rien

     

    As part of their surrender agreement following the April, 1961 putsch, the Legionnaires were allowed to march out of their barracks under arms, or allowed to keep their weapons, although I imagine that when they were shipped back France they had to surrender their guns.

     

    Edith Piaf Non, Je ne regrette rien

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFtGfyruroU

     

    Some of the Legionnaires of the 1st Parachute Regiment went on to join the OAS, which became an ultra-rightest organization. Many of those OAS members, in turn, joined the ranks of the ultra-rightest National Front political party. Tough he was not a Foreign Legionnaire, one such person who went from the OAS to the National Front party was Jean-Rene Souetre.

     

    The founder of the National Front Party, Jean-Marie Le Pen, was sent to Algeria in 1956, where he served in the French Foreign Legion as an intelligence officer. His daughter, Marine Le Pen, just ran for the Presidency of France under the banner of the National Front Party.

     

    I don't know if the “Identity Europa” group cited above is an effort to establish some kind of trans-national white supremacist movement linking white supremacist groups “across the pond” as it were. Maybe it's already here and I've just been too dense to know about it.

     

    The more things change...

     

    Steve Thomas

  9. 4 hours ago, Michael Walton said:

     

    Finally, from a plausible point of view, I cannot imagine the planners would put shooters or whoever that obvious and out in the open.  If the plan was to frame LHO by making up the 6th floor nest with throw down spent shells, then they'd have to have been the dumbest plotters in the world by putting some shooters or whoever that obvious down there.

    Michael,

     

    I see this Mystery Man as more as an observer than a shooter - making sure everything went as planned.

     

    Steve Thomas

  10. I am calling this guy, "Mystery Man". He's been given the name "Black Dog Man" and "Shadow Man" in the past. You can see him moving from the wall where Zapruder was to the end of the Elm St. Extension. In all of the pictures, he has been blacked out through some kind of photographic technique I think. At least I have never read an account of someone encountering someone dressed all in black after the assassination. His head covering, or hat, has been blacked out in the same way. Who is this guy?

     

     

    Steve Thomas

     

  11. Lykes Bros. Steamship Company

     

    Orest Pena WC testimony:

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/pena_o.htm

     

    Mr. LIEBELER - When did you leave Cuba?
    Mr. PENA - I left Cuba in September 1946.
    Mr. LIEBELER - Have you been back to Cuba since that time?
    Mr. PENA - Yes.
    Mr. LIEBELER - Would you tell us when?
    Mr. PENA - Oh, many times I went to Cuba. My last time I went to Cuba was about 8 months, I believe, after Castro took over, but before, I used to go very often because all my family is in Cuba, my mother, my father-- before my father died, I used to go to Cuba many times. I was a seaman, too. I used to ship out with the United Fruit Co. and the Lykes Brothers Co. That's before Castro took over.

    Mr. LIEBELER - You stopped working as a seaman in 1957?
    Mr. PENA – Yes.

     

    "They (The FBI) asked me if I saw Oswald; so I said I saw him once. He went to my place of business with one or two friends. I don't know exactly. My bar is a very long bar, so to me it looked like he was with two friends. My bartender, Evaristo Rodriguez, said he was with only one man, so I don't know exactly."

     

    OBITUARY of Frances Whitmeyer:

    Whitmeyer, Frances Raby was born February 21, 1922 and passed away April 4, 2009. Frances was born in Athens, Alabama to S.W. and Donna Raby. She graduated from Alabama Women's College in Athens. She moved to New Orleans and worked for the Lykes Steamship Co. and also for the City of New Orleans helping to translate French law into English. She later married George Whitmeyer and they moved to Germany where he was stationed after the war.They moved to Fort Worth in 1961 and then to Dallas in 1963.

     

    The Monroe News-Star from Monroe, Louisiana · Page 13

    March 15, 1954

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/90445615/

     

    "George L. Whitmeyer, whose wife, Frances Whitmeyer, resides here at 217 Pargoud Drive, has recently completed a 17-week Associate Infantry Office Advanced Course in Fort Benning, Ga.,"

     

    The Monroe News-Star from Monroe, Louisiana · Page 3

    October 23, 1956

    https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/84343273/


     

    "William F. Pipes, Jr. right, was promoted from first lieutenant to captain in the U. S. Army Reserves at ceremonies Monday night at the USAR training center, Selman Field. Looking on as Capt. Pipes reads his new commission is Major George L. Whitmeyer, unit advisor."

     

    So, it looks like Frances Whitmeyer was working for the Lykes Steamship Company at the same time that Orest Pena was working for them as a seaman.

    Oswald would use a ship from Lykes to get to Russia in what, 1959?

     

    Very interesting.

     

    Steve Thomas

     

     

  12. One of the fascinating things about studying the JFK assassination case and exploring leads, is learning about the various subcultures that run through it.

    The subcultures hav their own circle of friends, their own vernacular, etc.

     

    One of the leads that I tried exploring many years ago was the idea that if Jack Ruby was involved in running prostitutes across the south in a prostitution ring (Dallas, New Orleans, Miami, etc.), and if he was running his mouth, the prostitutes he was spending his time with would be the people who would probably be in the know. 

     

    There's Rose Cheramie and a story involving Pixie Lynn (Helen Kay Smith). Both prostitutes, both intimating that Oswald and Ruby knew each other in a homosexual relationship. (I still think Little Lynn knew more that she let on too).

     

    I explored the Pixie Lynn story for a while, but it didn't go anywhere that I could find. It ended in a dead end.

     

    For some examples see:

     

    https://books.google.com/books?id=YA4CBAAAQBAJ&pg=PT383&lpg=PT383&dq="Pixie+Lynn"+Ruby&source=bl&ots=A6N7cg4iU9&sig=jBpyJjZoRzexYZ-sPJQUbQ0DW8w&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjx1uyqkLTUAhXB1CYKHRO2ARYQ6AEISDAH#v=onepage&q="Pixie Lynn" Ruby&f=false

    CE 2794
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142&relPageId=219

    CE 2795
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=220&tab=page

    CD 372 p. 37
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10774#relPageId=37&tab=page

    26H pp. 184-185

     

    Steve Thomas

  13. On 5/5/2017 at 3:08 PM, Michael Clark said:

    David, I see that you are on-line so I though I would ask... I have searched for the thread that you mentioned with no luck. Do you have any more info or clues to go on, so I might locate it.

    Cheers,

    Michael

     

    Michael,

     

    You may be straying into the world of Benny Binion, Herbert Noble and R.D. Matthews.

    Here's one link you can look at:

    Steve Thomas

  14. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_L._Hamon,_Jr.
    Jake L. (Louis) Hamon was a personal friend of former US President George H.W. Bush.[4] Hamon and his wife visited the Bushes in China when Bush served as Envoy to China in March 1975.[4] 
    Bush, George W. (2014). 41: A Portrait of My Father. London: Ebury Publishing. p. 114. ISBN 9780553447781. OCLC 883645289 

    Hamon died in 1985 while he was on vacation in Amsterdam 

     

    Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities Book 22 p. 10333.
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=145153&relPageId=145&search=Hamon
    Jake Hamon of 4738 Shadywood Lane, Dallas, TX appears in Rosemary Woods list of Nixon's 1972 contributors for $25,000.

     

    (Howard Hughes appears on the same page for $16,666.66

    I wonder who was supposed to be the devil *smile*)

     

    Steve Thomas

  15. Ah yes. Feel the love.

    It gives you warm fuzzies all over.

     

    WC testimony of Paul  Raigorodsky 
    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/raigorod.htm

    Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Jake (Hamon) said he would not give him (George DeMohnreschildt)  a recommendation unless he consults me. That surprised me that he wouldn't ask me right off the bat, but he went around about way. What could I do? Of course I said, technically on the job he (DeMohrenschildt) is perfectly all right, I mean, he is a good engineer--good petroleum engineer.

    Mr. RAIGORODSKY. No--he was my friend, I was his friend--he was Jake Hamon's friend and Jake Hamon was his friend.

     

    March 5, 1964 FBI Interview of Jake Hamon, 500 Vaughn Building. Interview conducted by SA Richard L. Wiehl  CD 555. p. 43.
    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10954&relPageId=44&search=Hamon

    First met George DeMohrenschildt in 1947 in Rangely, CO.
    Said DeMohrenschildt was an inferior geologist.
    Said Demohrenschildt's closest associate was Paul Raigorodsky.
    Hamon said that DeMohrenschildt was a “good looking nothing”, and that if he could take him or leave him, he would leave him”.

    Between Two Worlds, by Peter Applebome.
    https://books.google.com/books?id=SCsEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA107&lpg=PA107&dq="Jake+Hamon"&source=bl&ots=92o5DJpss6&sig=CaLj2-EcG8m_-3jlFldJrvMm3FQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5uaPxrprUAhWZ2YMKHQzSCOkQ6AEIWzAN#v=onepage&q="Jake Hamon"&f=false
    pp. 106+

    p. 107. Jake L. (Louis) Hamon, multi-millionaire. Worth 200 million. Gin rummy partner of H.L. Hunt. A director of American Petroleum Institute. Youngest man ever to have served as its Chairman. (p. 107).

    If you'd like an interesting read, read up on Jake's father. Also named Jake. At the center of the Teapot Dome scandal. Liberally bought delegates for Warren G. Harding. Reports claim Hamon spent more than $1 million to buy delegates. http://newsok.com/article/3910896

    Shot and killed by his mistress when he wouldn't take her along to Washington.

     

    Steve Thomas
     

  16. 10 minutes ago, Ty Carpenter said:

    Joe,

     

    This thread puts a thought in my mind about Aubrey Rike.  He has had at least 4 unusual interactions with the assassination. 

     

    2. He was the driver who picked up Belknap immediately before the leader of the free world was to make an appearance in that very spot.

    Can anyone point me in the direction of Rikes biography? Specifically, I am wondering what his profession was after he quit the ambulance job. 

    Was Aubrey Rike the driver of 606?

     

    http://www.billdrenas.com/articles/dpd01-00.pdf


    12:18  289 (D.V. Harkness) radios in, “Give us an ambulance, 100 block North Houston Street. Epileptic seizure. ...make it a Code 3”.  
    12:19 Central dispatches 606 to that location. 606 was from the O'neal Funeral Home.
    “What's your location?”
    606 responds, “We're at about Harwood and Cedar Springs.”
    12:20    “10-4 Code 3 on Signal 28 (a sick person). 100 North Houston
        Dispatch tells 289 that 606 is at Harwood and Cedar Springs
    12:23    606 reports that he is “Out”
    12:24    Dispatch responds “10-4”
    12:25 606 reports in that he is enroute to Parkland with a Signal 16 (an injured person)
        Dispatch asks if he needs a squad to meet him there. 606 says yes.
    12:26    Dispatch instructs 23 (Patrolman B.E. Barnes) to meet 606 at Parkland on a Signal 16.
        23 responds, “10-4”.
    Barnes apparently did not file an after-action report (at lease one does not appear in the DPD Archives JFK Collection).

    I wondered if the same ambulance was at the scene of the Tippit shooting, but it looks like he arrived after Tippit had already been taken away by then.

    1:33 reports in, “606 , Code 6”  (Arrived) 

    602 and 603 were dispatched to 10th and Patton, and it appears from the Dispatch tapes that the ambulance from the Dudley Hughes Funeral Home took Tippit to the Hospital. I didn't realize that Dudley Hughes was located so close to the Tippit scene, but at 1:26 #279 (Patrolman J.T. Griffin) reported in that they had found a white jacket, believed to belong to the suspect, in a parking lot behind the service station in the 400 block of East Jefferson “across from Dudley Hughes.”

    It also appears that at that time, and at least in Dallas anyway, ambulances were attached to the funeral homes and not the hospitals. That's a curious thing.
     

    Steve Thomas

  17. 1 hour ago, Mathias Baumann said:

    Thank you for that link. Wow, that's an awful lot of documents, that'll keep me busy for a while...

    One more thought: I remember reading that George de Mohrenschildt was also cozy with one of the bosses at Schlumberger. Is that true?

    Mathias,

     

    This is from the WC testimony of Paul M. Raigorodsky in vol IX of the WC Hearings:

    http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/raigorod.htm

     

    Mr. JENNER. Who is Mr. John De Menil? 
    Mr. RAIGORODSKY. Mr. John De Menil is a very close friend of mine. He is the financial head of Schlumberger Co. and when I wouldn't go with George in the deal, he asked me to give him any suggestion as to who may be interested, so I suggested John De Menil because the Schlumberger Co. is a worldwide organization and they deal with every country in the world--you know what I am trying to say? 
    Mr. DAVIS. Yes; I do. I am familiar with the name Schlumberger. 
    Mr. RAIGORODSKY. And that he might be interested in going in business in Haiti, and at my suggestion he called him and went to see him and nothing came out of it because John De Menil finally turned him down after the investigation. 
    Now, I am very sorry that in the past years I have had some correspondence with George but I didn't keep it, but then when things began to pop up and his name appeared in so many different things, I thought I better keep a file on him. 

     

    Steve Thomas

     

  18. 58 minutes ago, Mathias Baumann said:

    Thank you for that link. Wow, that's an awful lot of documents, that'll keep me busy for a while...

    One more thought: I remember reading that George de Mohrenschildt was also cozy with one of the bosses at Schlumberger. Is that true?

    Mathias,

     

    This is from Tom Scully in another thread on another Forum:

    (Thomas Eli) "Davis's wife was Caroline (first name per Bruce's obit) Hawley.
    Her brother Bruce Hawley was married to Josephine Schlumberger who had come from France to live with
    her uncle and aunt Eric Boissonnas (aka Boissonais) and Sylvie Schlumberger Boissonnas  in New Canaan, CT. Her 2009 and his 2010 obit are retrievable easily via google. In Bruce's obit Davis's
    son Thomas S. is described as a nephew.

    Josephine's father, Dr. Marc Schlumberger was Dominique De Menil's and Sylvie Boissonnas's brother!

    I did a thread in 2012 on the Ed Forum about Davis's attorney, per FBI document related to Algiers arrest, Thomas Grattan Proctor. His son (Phil Proctor) was a Firesign Theater player,
    remember their album's? The thread is titled, Peter Bergman has Died A Founder of Firesign Theater"
     
    Steve Thomas
  19. 15 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

     

    “For robbing a bank in June 1958, Thomas Eli Davis III had received a sentence of five years of probation, during which time he went to work for the CIA, helping train anti-Castro units in Florida and at another site in South America. When JFK was assassinated, Davis was in jail in Algiers, charged with running guns to the secret army terrorist movement then attempting to assassinate French Premier Charles de Gaulle. Davis was released from jail through the intervention of the CIA’s foreign agent code-named “QJ/WIN” who was identified by the top-secret CIA Inspector General’s Report as the “principle asset” in the Agency’s assassination program known as ZR/RIFLE.” 

    PS: From what I have learned, if Thomas Davis had been arrested by the French authorities in 1963 because he was suspected of being involved in an assassination plot against Charles DeGaulle, I highly doubt he would have been released prior to the general amnesty in 1968, regardless of the efforts of a QJWIN or otherwise.

    Mathias,

     

    see page 6 of this FBI document for a picture of Thomas Eli Davis. 

    https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=129677#relPageId=6&tab=page

     

    I had always been under the impression that Davis was a big bad scary dude. Now, I don't think so.

    Read through the HSCA Subject Files under Thomas Eli Davis

    https://www.maryferrell.org/php/showlist.php?docset=1246

     

    I mean, who places an ad for mercenaries to engage in a "military operation" in Haiti in the Los Angeles Times?

    12 guys show up for a meeting at a motel. They're told if the overthrow of Duvalier is successful, they'll get to split somewhere between $200,00 and $2,000,000.

    If the overthrow fails, they'll get $50 and a map to the Dominican Republic.

    This is just too funny.

     

    Steve Thomas

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