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17 minutes ago, Mark Knight said:
...it's all relative...
Okay.
I'll call it quits and cry uncle.
Steve Thomas
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11 hours ago, David Andrews said:
Look into all the Memphis and Tennessee connections to setting up and covering up the MLK assassination. That'll make for one scary weekend.
David,
James Woodard, gun-running pal of Jack Ruby was from Knoxville.
The entire state got together in a secret conclave and planned JFK.
In order to throw everyone off the scent the secret meeting was held in Bowling Geen, KY - you know, where that massacre took place. Bet you didn't hear about that one either, did you?
Those Volunteers, they're a closed-mouthed group.
Steve Thomas
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All those CTers are wrong.
It wasn't the mob
or the CIA
or the cuban exiles
or the military-indusrial complex or Dallas oil men
Tennessee did it.
I offer the following proof:
Robert Currwood (or Curtwood) Harrison was involved in a 4-car auto accident in Wyandotte, MI on June 20, 1952. The 1948 Mercury he was driving was owned by Thomas Eli Davis of Bristol, TN.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=69860#relPageId=2&tab=pageThe indices of the Identification Bureau of the Dallas County Sheriff's Office revealed that the Subject (Karen “Little Lynn” Bennett (Carlin)) was born 20 July, 1944 in Chattanooga, Tennessee.
DPD Archives Box 4, Folder# 1, Item# 15, page 1.John Elrod, a 31-year-old cook was living in Memphis in 1964. Ray and Mary say Elrod was arrested November 22, 1963 at 2:45 p.m. by the Dallas Police and as such became the fourth tramp. He was placed in a cell with two other men. Within a few paragraphs we discover the men are Lee Harvey Oswald and a nineteen year old car thief from Memphis, Daniel Douglas.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/elrod.htmIn its files, however, the FBI found that in June, 1942, John Howard Bowen, (aka Albert Osborne) operator of a boys' camp at Henderson Springs near Knoxville, Tennessee, had been accused by one of the boys of tearing down an American flag and stomping it in the ground. The 1942 flag desecration case led the FBI in its Oswald investigation to look for Bowen in Tennessee. It found that over the years the Knoxville Journal had published a few pieces on Bowen, being a former local resident, based on mail received about his missionary work in Mexico.
http://www.ronaldecker.com/osborne.htmlA copy of a 1963 visitors registration at the old American Museum of Atomic Energy appears to show Lee Harvey Oswald visited the Oak Ridge (Tennessee) museum four months before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
http://knoxblogs.com/atomiccity/2013/11/22/lee-harvey-oswald-oak-ridge/So there.
Steve Thomas
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On 1/23/2013 at 8:16 PM, Thomas Graves said:
Incorrect Information, Steve.
I have it from an authoritative source that Robert D. Steel (no third "e") of San Diego, California (for whom we were looking) was not the brother of Margaret Hoover, and that a certain "Robert M. Steele" of Altoona, Pennsylvania was.
http://www.pa-roots....6573#msg-436573
--Tommy
Thomas,
I apologize for my sloppy research.
I have no excuses.
Steve Thomas
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The four teenagers and their history project.
(Or at least three of the four are named)
There's nothing earth shattering here, but it's kind of interesting to read their accounts and put it into context. They were working on a history project dealing with "subversive groups".
CHARLES HODGES
A 17-year-old high school student in Dallas, Hodges took photos at Dallas Love Field, on Stemmons Freeway immediately following the assassination, and at Parkland Memorial Hospital. That afternoon he sold his film to an Associated Press reporter. Recorded June 29, 1989, and June 13, 2011.
http://www.jfk.org/oral_histories/charles-hodges/JFK anniversary: Austinites remember when an assassination...
“We found ourselves standing in the ambulance bay at Parkland Hospital,” O'Hara says. “We saw ... “Two of us went in, me and Charles Hodges. We listened to…
Concord's David Wallace was eyewitness to history Nov. 22, 1963 ...
Nov 20, 2013 -... limousine parked in front of the Parkland Hospital in Dallas Texas. ... “My two friends, Will O'Hara and Charles Hodges, were able to go into...I sure wish the Sixth Floor hadn't pulled their oral histories from the web.
Steve Thomas
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1 hour ago, Thomas Graves said:
greasers
Thomas,
Thank you.
Ray Hawkins meets James Dean.
Steve Thomas
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9 hours ago, Michael Clark said:
I have not gone in depth on this yet. I did read his testimony and followed along on a map as best I could. I would have to start by making a coherent geo-timeline, starting with a timeline from his testimony. After a few readings it doesn't seem coherent, but I have to write it down to say for sure.
Baffling to say the least.
http://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2011/01/barbecue-with-a-side-of-heart/
Originally named the Bull Pen, the restaurant at 2321 W. Illinois opened in 1949.
In 1957, when Oak Cliff voted itself “dry,” co-owner Bert Bowman sold out his half interest to his business partner, Austin Cook, who changed the menu, the restaurant’s name and the hours of operation.
I'm hitting this mental block right now. What did they call the "rebel" teenagers in the 1950's? The ones who rolled up their t-shirts up over their biceps and stuck a pack of cigarettes up there, and smeared brylcream in their hair, wore white socks and rolled up the cuffs on their jeans?
I read the other day that Oak Cliff was booming in the 1950's, and I'm picturing Tippit squaring off against groups of these kids in his part time security capacity. I've read that Tippit was not well liked among the kids and was regarded as a hard ass. We have this picture of Tippit based on the stock photos we've all seen, but I was kind of surprised to realize the other day that he was about 40 when he died.
(That's all apropos of nothing, but I'm trying to put things in "context".)
Here's a picture of Ray Hawkins - the guy who cuffed Lee Harvey Oswald in the Theater. Since when did ivory handled revolvers become stock issue for police officers?
You're looking at a clash of cultures here.
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Michael Clark said:
I'll have a look..
Michael,
Sit down with a map in one hand and Croy's testimony beginning on page 200 here: (and compare what he says on pp 200-201, with he says on pp 205+)
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/croy.htm
and see if what he says makes any sense. On one hand, he says that he was going home (on Illinois presumablt) to change clothes, but then says that his clothes were at his parents house which was located 3 - 4 miles north.
It's baffling to say the least.
Steve Thomas
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3 hours ago, Michael Clark said:
It's amazing. People come out of the woodwork to testify regarding LHO; Yet Tippit hardly seems to have existed.
This makes Kenneth Croy's WC testimony and his decision to eat lunch at Austin's BBQ all the more suspicious.
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6 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
There was a story at one time that J.D. Tippit and Jack Ruby had been seen together in the Carousel. I don't remember the details right now.
From Bernard Weissman's WC testimony:
Mr. JENNER. Did you at anytime while you were in Dallas ever have a meeting with or sit in the Carousel Club with Officer Tippit?
Mr. WEISSMAN. No.
Mr. JENNER. Do you know or do you have any information as to whether any of the associates you have mentioned ever had a meeting with Officer Tippit in the Carousel Club?
Mr. WEISSMAN. None whatsoever.
Mr. JENNER. Or whether or not, irrespective of whether it was a formal meeting or even an informal one, that they were with Officer Tippit at anytime in the Carousel Club.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Absolutely not.
Mr. JENNER. And you were never in the Carousel Club at all; and you never were with Officer Tippit.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Right.
Mr. JENNER. Any place.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Any place.
Mr. JENNER. Mr. Weissman, it has been asserted that a meeting took place on November 14, 1963, in the Carousel Club between Officer Tippit and yourself--and I take it from your testimony that you vigorously deny that that ever took place.
Mr. WEISSMAN. Very definitely. May I say something in relation to this?
Mr. JENNER. Is it pertinent to this?
Mr. WEISSMAN. I believe so. I believe that this is a statement made by Mark Lane, who claimed to be attorney for the deceased Oswald. It was originally made at the Town Hall in New York, and later that same evening, I do not recall the date exactly, on a radio program Contact WINS New York, at about midnight of that same day.And in any case, I telephoned him several days after our radio and telephone conversation--I telephoned him at his office in Manhattan and got him on the line again. And I said. "Well, what has happened?" I was very curious as to what he had done about this.
Mr. JENNER. Where did you reach him?
Mr. WEISSMAN. At his office in Manhattan. I do not know the address. I had first contacted a law firm he was associated with previously, and they gave me his office number in lower Manhattan. And I telephoned him at his office. The secretary answered, then he got on the line. And he said this time--I don't recall exactly what was said before or after this particular part of the conversation. But I said that I want to meet this guy in Dallas, the one who told him this story and call him a xxxx to his face, and that I wanted it to be a public meeting, and Mark Lane said he would arrange for a public meeting, he would pay my transportation to Dallas to see this guy as soon as he could arrange a meeting. And I have not heard from him since.Steve Thomas
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5 hours ago, Michael Clark said:
Mr. RANKIN. The man that was murdered. There was a story that you were seen sitting in your Carousel Club with Mr. Weissman, Officer Tippit, and another who has been called a rich oil man, at one time shortly before the assassination. Can you tell us anything about that?There was a story at one time that J.D. Tippit and Jack Ruby had been seen together in the Carousel. I don't remember the details right now.
There was a G.M. Tippit in the Special Service Bureau. His first name was Gayle. He told me once that he liked and was a friend of Jack Ruby's. He was sort of embarrased about his first name and went by the name, "Tip".
Thanks for the research help on whether Ruby was ever asked if he knew J.D. Tippit.
Steve Thomas
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Is this an area of research worth looking into?
I vaguely remember in my past reading someone, (maybe Larry Hancock?) talking about the Cuban exiles connections, and also drug connections to Austin's BBQ.
From:
“A look back at Austin’s Barbecue”
The Advocate. January 27, 2011
http://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2011/01/barbecue-with-a-side-of-heart/
"Originally named the Bull Pen, the restaurant at 2321 W. Illinois opened in 1949. (It sat on the northeast corner of Hampton and Illinois,"
"In 1957, when Oak Cliff voted itself “dry,” co-owner Bert Bowman sold out his half interest to his business partner, Austin Cook, who changed the menu, the restaurant’s name and the hours of operation."
"Dallas Police Officer J.D. Tippit moonlighted at Austin’s, working security on weekends. The Staff Report of the Select Committee on Assassinations reads “that he [Cook] had employed Tippit at the time of the assassination ‘as a deterrent’ to any teenage trouble from youths who frequented the establishment.”"
"Due to a web of coincidental liaisons between Bowman and assassin Lee Harvey Oswald, the FBI interviewed Cook and many of the Cook and Bowman family members, with Cook telling the investigators that he never heard Tippit mention Oswald or Jack Ruby."
"A man named Ralph Paul had purchased the restaurant Bowman opened after selling his share of the Bull Pen to Cook. Bowman’s wife stated she had known Paul since his 1951 move to Dallas and that at the time of the assassination, Paul was living in the lower level of the Bowman home. She reported that Paul was a close friend of Ruby’s and had expressed great concern for his friend after Oswald’s shooting. She also stated that Paul had brought Ruby by her home approximately four and a half years earlier, but that Ruby remained for only a short time."
"Nothing came of the investigation."
After Bert Bowman sold his half interest in the Bull Pen to Austin Cook, he opened another restaurant.
He sold this restaurant to Ralph Paul.
What was the name of the restaurant Ralph Paul purchased from Bert Bowman?
Oswald allegedly shoots Tippit.
Ruby shoots Oswald.
Bert Bowman sells his half interest in the Bull Pen to Austin Cook who re-names it Austin's BBQ.
After selling the Bull Pen, Bowman opens another restaurant.
Ralph Paul buys this restaurant and lives in the Bowman home.
Ralph Paul is Jack Ruby's best friend and business partner for years
Tippit works part time at Austin's BBQ
After Jfk's assassination, Tippit makes an unrecorded landline phone call from the Top Ten Record store.
Tippit is killed
Ray Hawkins makes an unrecorded landline phone call from a Mobil Gas Station at 10th and Beckley
Hawkins arrests Lee Oswald. The handcuffs he uses to cuff Oswald are his own personal possessions and are later auctioned off for $250,000.
Ray Hawkins has a permanent pass to the Carousel Club and visits several times.
Austin Cook was asked by the FBI if Tippit knew Oswald or Ruby. Cook says no.
Was Ruby ever asked if he knew Tippit?
What do you think of the possibility that Tippit and Hawkins were calling the same person - --- Ruby --- to tell him that Oswald wasn't here, and they couldn't find him? What should they do?
I think that the police officers' behavior in the Texas Theater was very suspicious. Three people; McDonald, Hawkins, and Brewer, said that Oswald was sitting by himself, and that Oswald was pointed out to them before they ever started down the theater aisles. Why did McDonald stop and frisk two other people before getting to Oswald? I think they were hoping Oswald would make a break for it and could be "shot while trying to escape."
Steve Thomas
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4 hours ago, Chris Newton said:
Wasn't Tippet moonlighting at the BBQ? Maybe I'm mixed up with something else.
Chris,
You might be thinking of Austin's BBQ.
There is a slight connection between Ruby and Austin's though. Take a look at this site:
http://oakcliff.advocatemag.com/2011/01/barbecue-with-a-side-of-heart/
"Originally named the Bull Pen, the restaurant at 2321 W. Illinois opened in 1949. (It sat on the northeast corner of Hampton and Illinois,..."
"In 1957, when Oak Cliff voted itself “dry,” co-owner Bert Bowman sold out his half interest to his business partner, Austin Cook,..."
"A man named Ralph Paul had purchased the restaurant Bowman opened after selling his share of the Bull Pen to Cook. Bowman’s wife stated she had known Paul since his 1951 move to Dallas and that at the time of the assassination, Paul was living in the lower level of the Bowman home. She reported that Paul was a close friend of Ruby’s and had expressed great concern for his friend after Oswald’s shooting. She also stated that Paul had brought Ruby by her home approximately four and a half years earlier, but that Ruby remained for only a short time.
Nothing came of the investigation."
Steve Thomas
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23 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
Michael,
I think the 1/2 part of 1312 1/2 Commerce meant that it was upstairs. The WC is full of stories about Ruby throwing people down the stairs.
You might be interested in these photos:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/408701734911782916/
https://www.pinterest.com/perry_vermeulen/carousel-club/
It looks like the downstairs, or ground floor was a barbeque joint; the Real Pit Bar-B-Q
Steve Thomas
It's interesting. I don't find anything in the literature about this Bar-B-Q place. Who owned it. Did they ever give an interview about what they saw... the comings and goings...?
It's interesting.
Steve Thomas
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Just as a little side note (and not related to the topic of your thread - please feel free to ignore)
CE 1673 in volume 23 of the WC Hearings page 144.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1139#relPageId=176&tab=page
shows the building at 1312 Commerce was owned by H.H. Nichols and Clarice Nichols.
I wonder if Jack Ruby's girlfriend, Alice Nichols was related.
Steve Thomas
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On 4/30/2017 at 8:39 PM, Michael Clark said:
Telecommunications were necessarily a part of the Dallas coup de ta.
Jack Ruby's Carousell Lounge occupied the lot that is now the HQ of the major carrier of that region.
i am looking to research the history of that "lot", here, in this thread.
Michael,
I think the 1/2 part of 1312 1/2 Commerce meant that it was upstairs. The WC is full of stories about Ruby throwing people down the stairs.
You might be interested in these photos:
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/408701734911782916/
https://www.pinterest.com/perry_vermeulen/carousel-club/
It looks like the downstairs, or ground floor was a barbeque joint; the Real Pit Bar-B-Q
Steve Thomas
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On 2/17/2017 at 1:00 AM, Sandy Larsen said:
These are designated C-133a, C-133b, and C-133c respectively.
I don't know much about photography, but I've always been struck by the fact that in the picture on the bottom left, the slats of the fence and the vertical post to Oswald's left are straight up and down. In the pictures on the top and the bottowm right, the slats in the fence and the vertical post to Oswald's left are slanting to our right.
To me, it looks like "somebody's" picture has been pasted on a picture that was slightly cockeyed.
Forget about Oswald falling over, that whole fencing and shed should have fallen over. :-)
Steve Thomas
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2 hours ago, Andrej Stancak said:
Steve:
Those who lost their enterprises or properties, those who ended up in jail after the coup, and those who suffocated under the new regime, wanted to flee the country desperately. This was still possible during the first months of 1948. These people usually ended up in the US bases in Germany. It took months, maybe a year or two, to sort out the asylum visa to the US. After coming to US, the exiles may have first arrived to New York, and only after few months they would find the right place for themselves. Thus, 1950 is the year where logically a surge of immigrants from central and Eastern Europe could be expected in Dallas.
Andrej,
Thank you.
Steve Thomas
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An Inventory of Texas State Guard/Texas Defense Guard/Texas State Guard Reserve Corps Records at the Texas State Archives, 1938-1983, undated (bulk 1941-1945)
These records are housed at the Texas State Library in Austin.
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/taro/tslac/30026/tsl-30026.htmlIn January 1958, the TSGRC was reorganized as follows: an Active Reserve, a Ready Reserve, an Inactive Reserve, an Enlisted Reserve, an Honorary Reserve, a Provost Marshal Section, and an ROTC-NDCC [Reserve Officer Training Corps-National Defense Cadet Corps] Group. As the most important component, the Active Reserve was composed of a Corps Headquarters, one Corps Radio Unit, six Defense Group Headquarters, six Defense Group Radio Units, 30 Internal Security Battalions (about half of them strictly cadre units with officer personnel only), and 12 Radio and Rescue Detachments, with a total authorized strength of 10,000 officers and enlisted men.
Members of the Guard would neither be liable for, nor exempt from, federal military service as a result of their membership in the Guard. Eventually 51 battalions were formed, each battalion containing a headquarters and a headquarters detachment, a service detachment, and a medical detachment, in addition to between four and eight companies. Up to fifteen air force squadrons, two battalions of field artillery, and several bands, were also authorized. In 1943 the 48th Legislature, by House Bill 585, changed the name of the organization to the Texas State Guard, and made a distinction between the active and the reserve militia.
Battalion records, 1941-1947,
They comprise the records of the 51 battalions of the Texas Defense Guard/Texas State Guard, plus records of the bands, unassigned companies, and air squadrons, 1941-1947. These records are both at the battalion/squadron level and at the company/detachment/flight level. The four Battalions in the Dallas area were the 19th, the 29th, the 35th and the 51st.
The 29th Battalion was commanded by Major E.M. Dealey.
E.M. Dealey would go on to become the publisher of the Dallas Morning News
Battalion records, 1948-1971, undated,
In addition to the quarterly strength reports, there are organizational files that include correspondence and memoranda, military orders (general, special, and field orders), reports of annual inspections, daily staff journals, battalion rosters, requests for reassignments, handbooks, etc.
Much more voluminous, however, are the strength reports and organization files of the Internal Security Battalions and Security Units of the six Defense Groups of the Texas State Guard, mainly 1961-1971.
The 1st Defense Group covered northeast Texas. As part of the 1st Defense Group, the 102nd Battalion comprised Dallas, Irving, Terrell, Kaufman
(For records on the 488th, or documents mentioning any of the people mentioned in this thread, I think I'd look at the records of this 102nd Battalion).
Administrative records, 1940-1983, undated (bulk 1948-1983),
Types of records in these files include correspondence and memoranda; bulletins and circulars; articles; legislation and regulations; tables of organization; general orders and special orders; handbooks/manuals; station lists; assignment rosters
Chronological files, 1941-1969
These records consist of chronological files dating 1941-1969. They include general and special orders from the Adjutant General's Department and the Texas Defense Guard/Texas State Guard/Texas State Guard Reserve Corps; memoranda, circulars, and bulletins; chief of staff assignments and assistant chief of staff assignments (i.e., personnel assignments authorized by Col. Donald W. Peacock and Col. Weldon M. Swenson, respectively); station lists; and miscellaneous other records, for 1941-1969.
Conferences
Dallas Area Conference, [1963]
Texas State Guard Association officers rosters, minutes, and programs; anti-communist publications; logs; (It makes sense to me that some, or all, of these people would have joined the Association).
Steve Thomas
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On 10/17/2016 at 1:51 PM, Andrej Stancak said:
The Russian language started to be taught as a compulsory subject in Czech schools only after 1948 when the communists took over Czechoslovakia. There was another wave of exiles in 1948, and Mr. Zboril could have been maybe less than 10 years old should he come to the US during this wave of immigration. He would not speak Russian, and he would be strongly anti-communist.
Andrej, (or anyone else for that matter)
In his WC testimony, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bouhe.htm
George Bouhe said,
"... when I came in 1939, there were absolutely only three Russian-speaking people in Dallas and they were all married people, married to Americans, and so on. So I did not, so-to-speak, associate with any Russians that might have come or gone through Dallas from 1939 to about 1950.
In 1950, approximately, a great avalanche of displaced persons came to Dallas from Europe. Among these were probably 30, 40, 50 people, native of what I would say of various parts of the former Russian Empire. By that I mean to say that they were not all Russian. They might have been Estonians, Lithuanians, Poles, Caucasians, Georgians, Armenians, and such, but we did have one thing in common and not much more, and that was the language. (Russian I would guess)
It was a sort of constant amazement to me that these people, prayed God, for years before coming here while still sitting in various camps in Germany--they wanted to get to America, and if 1 out of 50 made a 10-cent effort to learn the English language, I did not find him."Does anyone know why there would be a sudden influx of immigrants from Eastern Europe into the United States in 1950?
Steve Thomas
PS: A regiment would have between 1,000 to 2,000 men. Without being in the same platoon, I'd be surprised if the SS Agent and Oswald knew each other.
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On 2/12/2017 at 1:16 PM, Steve Thomas said:
Over the years, a number of groups, or at least rogue elements of those groups have been floated as suspects in the assassination of JFK. These have included the CIA, the mob, the right wing, etc. However, I believe that there was another group of people who seem to appear in key circumstances associated with this event; and these are colonels in the U.S. Army Reserves, and more specifically the intelligence services of that military mileau.
These Reservists include among others:
Jack A. Crichton,
George L. Whitmeyer,
George Lumpkin
,Lester Logue.
L. Robert Castorr, and I'll float another name;
Colonel Frank M. (Maryan) "Brandy" Brandstetter
I guess I'd add another name:
Colonel Lawrence Orlov.
Accompanied George DeMohrenschildt to meet the Oswalds for the first time in the Fall of 1962.
A Record from Mary's Database:
Record: ORLOV, LAWRENCE COL.
https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=7127
Dallas oil man. Friend of George deMohrenschildt. Orlov and deMohrenschildt went to Ft. Worth in 1962 to call on the Oswalds.
It's funny how a lot of these Colonels seem to be in the oil industry: Crichton, Logue, Castorr, Orlov.
Steve Thomas
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On 7/15/2010 at 5:59 AM, Greg Parker said:
Thanks Robert.
A member of the Unitarian Church? Then there is a reasonable chance he knew Michael Paine.
I think there is a very good possibility that Orlov knew the Paines.
From the WC testimony of George DeMohrenschildt:
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/demohr_g.htm
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. No, no; still active. I think it was in 1952--because I was not married---we still had the partnership. I was visiting Ed Hooker in New York at that particular time, and through him I met my next wife, my last wife.
Mr. JENNER. All right. Now, who was she?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Wynne Sharples.Mr. JENNER. Tell me about the Sharples family.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. The Sharples family is from Philadelphia, Philadelphia Quakers. He is in the centrifugal processing business and also in the oil business.Mr. JENNER. Was the Sharples family wealthy?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Very wealthy.
Mr. JENNER. Socially prominent?
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. Socially prominent. But not too interested in society, because they are Quakers, you know. But my wife is interested.
Mr. De MOHRENSCHILDT. We got married, I think, after her graduation immediately in the Unitarian Church in Chestnut Hills.Steve Thomas
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3 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
Next Trivia Question
Who are these two people?
Steve Thomas
Tracy,
You're half right.
The figure on the left is Jean-Rene Souetre.
Nicknamed Robin des Bois (Robin of the Wood), he named his first born son "Little John".
Steve Thomas
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This is not apropos to anything, but I happened to stumble on it while looking for something else.
Just for curiosity's sake:
http://www.patriotfiles.com/index.php?name=Sections&req=viewarticle&artid=1235&page=1
Steve Thomas
Thomas Eli Davis III
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted
Mathias,
I thought your question deserved some kind of response. It's not much, but I'll give you what I've got: (I'm sorry, you'll probably have to cut and paste the url references. My word processor doesn't seem to want to talk to this Forum software when it comes to copying and pasting hyperlinks).
From:
The Jack Ruby Connection
by Robert Riversong:
https://riversong.wordpress.com/the-jack-ruby-connection/
“For robbing a bank in June 1958, Thomas Eli Davis III had received a sentence of five years of probation, during which time he went to work for the CIA, helping train anti-Castro units in Florida and at another site in South America. When JFK was assassinated, Davis was in jail in Algiers, charged with running guns to the secret army terrorist movement then attempting to assassinate French Premier Charles de Gaulle. Davis was released from jail through the intervention of the CIA’s foreign agent code-named “QJ/WIN” who was identified by the top-secret CIA Inspector General’s Report as the “principle asset” in the Agency’s assassination program known as ZR/RIFLE.”
This seems to track back to an allegation by Seth Kantor in his book, Who Was Jack Ruby”
see footnote# 36 on page 540 of the book The Man Who Knew Too Much by Dick Russell.
https://books.google.com/books?id=XJQX-4khd2QC&pg=PA540&lpg=PA540&dq=Davis+"Jack+Ruby"&source=bl&ots=qp7EPDOFWs&sig=Je3cGYqeiK5TMq4fXbyGBVNlewE&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrwc7HrI7UAhVn04MKHZTPD_8Q6AEIDQ#v=onepage&q=Davis "Jack Ruby"&f=false
In one sentence, Russell says Davis was bailed out of jail in Algiers where he was being held by the Moroccan authorities. I don't know if the error is Kantor's or Russell's.
I don't know where the Algiers comes from. Algiers is in Algeria. Tangier is in Morocco.
See volume IX of the HSCA Final Report pp 183+
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=955&relPageId=191&search=Thomas_Eli Davis
This also tracks back to Kantor's book. Accoring to the HSCA, Kantor says that Davis was in jail in Algiers at the time of Kennedy's assassination, but Davis's wife told the consul general (probably in Morocco) that they were traveling between November 2 and November 28. Davis was arrested in Tangier on December 8, 1963.
Contrast this with the account in the book, Oswald Talked by Ray and Mary LaFontaine concerning an aborted coup in Haiti.
See pp. 198 – 202.
https://books.google.com/books?id=ymfQdYoqKyEC&pg=PA201&lpg=PA201&dq=Davis+"Jack+Ruby"&source=bl&ots=8rJfqPxCFs&sig=xS_ERZl3WlL5vCZEVAkW_XisS-0&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjrwc7HrI7UAhVn04MKHZTPD_8Q6AEIGA#v=onepage&q=Davis "Jack Ruby"&f=false
I don't know about the 30th of November group. The LaFontaine's say it was Alpha 66.
I had a discussion with someone recently on another Forum about a Davis that Ruby was supposed to have known in New Orleans. Something about shipping. For the life of me, I can't put my finger on it right now, but if I can dredge it up, I'll pass it along.
Steve Thomas
PS: From what I have learned, if Thomas Davis had been arrested by the French authorities in 1963 because he was suspected of being involved in an assassination plot against Charles DeGaulle, I highly doubt he would have been released prior to the general amnesty in 1968, regardless of the efforts of a QJWIN or otherwise.