Tony Krome

It was Specter that drew the TSBD building on that rough map. Note that he has drawn the building as an obvious rectangle, not a square. The lower part of the building running down the Elm Street extension ends right behind the pergola as seen on the map below.

Yep, right where Bowers saw a flash of light and smoke;

Great witnesses, interviewed within 30 minutes. Bill Newman has all sounds heard coming from directly behind his position. He says all sounds came from "behind us" "top of the hill" the "mall" the "mound" the "garden". Yet, what does he and his wife do? They protect their infant children by facing them in the direction of where they thought the sounds came from. This could possibly be explained in that they saw blood and mayhem in front, so they spun away from scene.

The earliest witness statements, I've found, are usually more accurate. A later "embellishment" example would be Frazier where we have him seeing a man placing a rifle into the trunk of car parked on the Elm St extension minutes after the shootings. As far as the "missed shot" is concerned, Jean Hill certainly has corroboration with many others witnessing a pavement strike. One early criticism of Jean Hill, was the "white dog" she thought she saw between the Kennedys lying on the seat. It turned out to be white flowers, but in some photos I've seen at Love field, the flower arrangement does resemble a stuffed toy. Yet, she did see something white, and that tells us just how close she was. She was able to see right down into the middle of the back seat. Jean Hill made the "white dog" statement that afternoon, before she could have known there was anything white there in existence. The above critic example, is what can be used to totally discredit an otherwise valuable witness. Researchers read the critic, then switch off the witness entirely. Not wise.

So now we bring in Toni Foster. She's walking up behind Jean Hill. The first thing she heard was "click click, they were just that fast". Yes, I have the "missed shot" along a strip of pavement by the curb between Jean Hill and the driver's side of the limo. I believe it may have been Sorrels via Decker that told Jean Hill. Sorrels escorted witnesses over to the Sheriff's office.

I believe what you see with the cut off windshield, is actually Kinney's right side of his black jacket.. The white directly next to it (left as we view) would be the middle top of the front seat. The white all along the top would be the chrome strip and raised sun-visors. For about 3 frames, it does look like a white car turning.

Jean Hill reported that a secret service agent told her that a bullet kicked up dust right by her feet; Mrs. HILL - Then, he asked me I was asked did I know that a bullet struck at my feet and I said, "No; I didn't." And he said, "What do you think that dust was?" And I said, "I didn't see any dust." Jean Hill's feet bullet is almost certainly the Ellis missile; On August 5, 1978, the committee received information from former Dallas policeman Starvis Ellis that Ellis had also seen a missile hit the ground in the area of the motorcade at the time of the assassination. Ellis said he rode on a motorcycle alongside the first car in the motorcade, approximately 100 to 125 feet in front of the car carrying President Kennedy.(351) Ellis said that just as he started down the hill of Elm Street, he looked back toward President Kennedy's car and saw debris come up from the ground at a nearby curb. The Jean Hill feet bullet and the Ellis missile is almost certainly the Rackley bullet; In an FBI interview on November 24, 1963, Mrs. Virgie Baker (nee Rackley) reported that at the time she heard the first shot, she looked in the direction of the triple underpass and saw what she presumed to be a bullet bouncing off the pavement. The Jean Hill, Ellis and Rackley bullet is almost certainly the Chism bullet; The Sixth Floor Museum interview with Ricky Chism recounting what his mother told him; Ricky Chism: The first shot hit the ground and ricocheted off the ground Fagin: She actually saw sparks on the ground? Ricky Chism: Yes, she seen the spark hit the ground What we can now determine, is that at the moment of the first audible shot, a bullet hit the pavement right by Jean Hill's feet.

Original topic changed. Same subject.

1. During his employment at the TSBD 2. Prior to his employment at the TSBD but after he arrived in Dallas 3. While he was in New Orleans

Brehm: "the car then took off in a zig-zag motion" Mr. GREER. I was following the contour of the road, the center of the contour of the road as it goes. Mr. SPECTER. When you accelerated your automobile, did you at any time come alongside of or pass the police car in front of you? Mr. GREER. No, sir; I never passed it. Which person above was not telling the truth?

Brehm's 2nd shot "absolutely destroyed the President's head". Anything after that may well relate to extra shots heard by Jean Hill. and may not concern the sequence of shots related to JFK. If Brehm said the shots were evenly spaced, it follows he heard the flurry as one shot, and then you would have to add many seconds to any 3rd shot. Brehm's 2nd shot is the same as Landis' 2nd shot; Landis: "It was at this moment that I heard a second report and it appeared that the President's head split open with a muffled exploding sound." They both heard the flurry as one shot

Hickey: The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed because the hair on the right side of his head flew forward and there didn't seem to be any impact against his head Brehm: [Regarding the final shot he heard]There was the hair, seemed to go flying [When Brehm states this, he waves his right hand forward from behind the right rear of his own head] Brehm only heard 2 shots, which probably means, he, like others, heard the flurry as one shot. My take on this, is that Hickey and Brehm saw the very same thing, and that the first flurry shot moved through the right side of JFK's hair. An instant later, the second flurry shot impacted his head. Interestingly, both Brehm and Hickey have the hair flying forward, which is a quandary, for none of the SS agents reported the supersonic crack that a bullet makes before the shot sound.

O'Neill: .... people keep forgetting Mr. Connally, Governor Connally, denied the single-bullet theory one hundred percent. He's an eyewitness. He's right there! People overlook his testimony on that, then say, "Well, the movie shows something else." I don't give a damn about the movie! This is the man who was there. He was the one who was hit. He should know what happened. When questioned about the single-bullet theory and Arlen Specter, Sibert responded: "What a xxxx. I feel he got his orders from above—how far above I don't know." [Law - In the Eye of History] I'm with O'Neill, I don't give a damn about the movie either

Sibert and O'Neill were anti SBT, so I suppose without the SBT there's a few problems

There's a cross on Elm St. Appears to be in front of the TSBD. Maybe thats what they meant; https://www.google.com.au/maps/@32.7792381,-96.8084955,3a,75y,7.32h,87.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sng3J4iVoTPsA6IBDehU6eA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?hl=en

Another photo to compare is the Croft photo. I believe he was using a 35mm, unsure of shutter speed. What I did was convert the Croft photo to black & white and compared the blurred people in the background to the people in Moorman. If you find time to do likewise, let me know what you think.

The two closest witnesses, Kellerman and Greer, in testimony, state they had no idea the windshield was damaged that day. Kellerman I believe, Greer not so much. At the time of this shot, a loud firecracker noise was heard and as you know, everyone was looking in different directions. I would suspect there would have been tiny glass particles that flew with the slug, possibly striking the face of the target.

I was actually looking for proof that a regular 22 would not have enough power, and whether or not the video is fake, the bullet was not up to the task.

Years ago we heard that Jackie shot from a gun hidden in her purse. Then we heard that Greer turned around and shot him. Then we had the spinning umbrella gun and swamp people shooting from the drain hole. I can't understand why Nellie escaped scrutiny

A regular 22 bullet almost replicates the above scenario in this video. Watch till the end and you will see it penetrate the windshield, penetrate a headrest and smash into the rear window.

The more I watch this gif, the more the limo rides like a flying carpet.

In answer for the 2nd question, we bring in the full Altgens 6 photo, see how it misses the SS agents; I would think after exiting the bubble top, the power of the bullet would be greatly reduced. The first question regarding the power and type of bullet used is a good one. I'm sure there are others here that could offer more expertise. Ron's thinking is along the lines of a 22, and there are many specialty types of rounds in that calibre. A larger calibre round also makes sense in that it should match the penetrating holes left by the first shooter. I have the original shells found by the Sniper's Nest window as 7.65, to be later substituted by 6.5. I have a theory on why the substitutions occurred, but thats for another day.

I read somewhere it was in reach of the rear passengers.

The line of trajectory, if the first intended head shot through the windshield was successful, would be straight through the top of JFK's forehead and out through the rear of the bubble top. We have seen how easily the WC converted a frontal shot into a shot from the rear. So reverse the line of fire so that the bubble top is the first point of penetration, then JFK, then into the windshield. The beauty of it is, is that the vertical firing angle does not need to exact, they would bring deflection into the mix. Substitute the dark guy below with Kennedy;

My take is that Kellerman would have been the agent that would have adjusted anything at the centre console whilst in a parade. The driver then has the responsibility of concentrating on driving. The Lincoln is a large vehicle and my guess is that it would involve a purposeful reach to adjust the controls in the middle of the dash. I just don't see Greer reaching. I see his hand on the transmission selector. As you said, Greer did everything wrong, but as far as the snipers were concerned, he did everything right.