Matthew Koch Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 15 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: As Jim Di would say when his assertions are being questioned and he's circling the wagons. Nice one, Cliff! heh heh heh It's absolutely no surprise to me nobody here who thinks Hunter Biden's laptop is a huge story was ever going to respond to this article from Cliff as they simply wouldn't have the patience to go into the detail and read this through. I would expect about the same level of response I just got from Ben about the value to us of his posting of a TV Guide like fluff review of Twitter's new up coming season in"Twitter comes of age!" heh heh But this by far the most comprehensive no BS distillation I've read here. Up to now, it's been nothing but a lot of youtube and twitter snippets and huge font headlines. I will say this about Taibbi, of all the 3 pro Putin writers Greenwald, Taibbi and Mate that Ben emulates. Taibbi was the only one to admit he made a mistake scoffing at the idea that Putin would invade Ukraine. Taibbi was at first talking about all the conditions that he had to agree to take on this job from Musk.Yet even though this is supposed to be about First Amendment freedom ( and I'll take others word that it's not legally about revenge porn!) Taibbi doesn't tell us what those conditions he had to agree to are and how much he's getting compensated for it. I personally don't see the need for Taibbi. They could just release the files to everyone but I'm smart enough to know I don't really know if that's smart. Both the Trump government and Biden campaign weighed in at the time. He won't say what Trump urged, though we can probably surmise that Biden or the DNC doesn't want October Surprise "genitalia pix"* of his son, but as any private citizen's have the right to flag twitter material. Both political parties are aware that public confidence in government depends on some sort of tit for tat accommodation that the last few weeks of a campaign don't degenerate into a big scandalous food fight! The bottom line:The Democrats didn't demand that twitter censor the NY Post! Taibbi: there's no evidence that I've seen of any government involvement in the laptop story. One thing that's dealt with is the Joe Rogan interview with Zuckerberg. It is worth posting here, but it's totally misinterpreted. Zuckerberg was never informed of any specific threat involving Biden or his son. Of course,up to right now the most suspicious allegation is the fact that Twitter's Deputy General Counsel Jim Baker originally worked in the FBI, and of course that doesn't look great. But somehow even though it's been a matter of public record, Musk apparently didn't know this until Sunday?, and he's one of the last employees to be fired. Baker was a witness at the Michael Sussman trial which was connected to the Alfa Bank case, but contrary to Jonathan Turley's allegation that he was protecting an old friend in Sussman, Baker's testimony was against Sussman, and asserted he lied and that supported John Durham case that ended up in Sussman's conviction! How could Turley get it so wrong!! Curiously after Turley tarnishes Baker in his article , he does backpedal and say there might be nothing to his charges on Baker!??? Just to give you some idea how the corporate world works. There are people coming from government to private businesses all the time, (like politicians turned lobbyists for example, or maybe more appropriately in this case, like public Prosecutors to private Defenders ). Given Baker's experience, you could argue that he is uniquely qualified to navigate around uncertainties and allegations of obstruction.Though I know right now, some people will never get over Jim Baker's connections, even if it doesn't go anywhere, but that allegation of obstruction has to be proven first! But I'd think no one who thinks this is a huge story will have the patience to read what I've written. Anyway, on with the show. * It took me awhile to get clarity, but slang "D"word "C word" and clinical "P" word is out, but "G" word is in! That is not a very accurate article..did you catch Bari Weiss last night showing conservatives being shadow banned and having internal searches squelched. In addition to Jim Baker we now know of a new spook connected person involved in this, Jeff Carlton who worked for both FBI and CIA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Benjamin Cole Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 The twitter issue is fascinating. I don't think Bari Weiss, Taibbi, Greenwald, Mate and many others can all be wrong. Twitter had true believers inside running the show, and they self-righteously tilted far left-liberal. On the other hand, twitter is a private company. Unlike, say, the phone company, twitter is not obligated to give service to everyone, or allow all communications on their system. They do not have to be "fair." If they prevented even direct messages (DMs) regarding the Hunter Biden laptop story, that is their prerogative, just as the NYT is not obligated to print about the laptop. There is a question: Have social media platforms become so large they are essentially the new "town squares"? Everyone has the right to speak in the town square, within reason. It may be that algorithms and the like should be shifted to apolitical technocratic bodies. Good luck defining apolitical. My guess is people in the US are so hyper-politicized they cannot stand allowing rival thoughts to exist or co-exist. So, everyone will eventually migrate to confirmation-bias affirming platforms. You won't use twitter, you will use the rival tweeter, and so on. The important thing is that you feel superior contempt for people not like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Bravo, Kyrsten Sinema. You Represent Millions of Americans Who Hate Both Parties | Opinion BRAD POLUMBO , CO-FOUNDER OF BASEDPOLITICSON 12/9/22 AT 9:31 AM EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 U.S. launches spraying of Agent Orange, Jan. 18, 1962 - POLITICO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: Bravo, Kyrsten Sinema. You Represent Millions of Americans Who Hate Both Parties | Opinion BRAD POLUMBO , CO-FOUNDER OF BASEDPOLITICS ON 12/9/22 AT 9:31 AM EST What utter bunk, Ben. Thanks for slinging more MAGA merde on the wall. But this won't stick, like most of your...uh...theses... If Sinema hates both parties, why did she run as a Democrat and get elected by Democrats-- before betraying her constituents and serving as a corporate lobbyist? She's, basically, an unprincipled traitor, working for the plutocrats and their pachyderms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 25 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: What utter bunk, Ben. Thanks for slinging more MAGA merde on the wall. But this won't stick, like most of your...uh...theses... If Sinema hates both parties, why did she run as a Democrat and get elected by Democrats-- before betraying her constituents and serving as a corporate lobbyist? She's, basically, an unprincipled traitor, working for the plutocrats and their pachyderms. Protesting her in the bathroom looks to have been a mistake.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 12 hours ago, John Cotter said: I doubt that they are as butthurt as the civilians being killed and injured by the ongoing shelling of the city of Donetsk by the Ukrainian army. And what civilians would those be? See, all the civilians in Donetsk either fled or will killed when Russia first invaded. Ukraine is bombing the occupying Russian army. But you know that already, just like everyone does. You just happen to enjoy defending a mass murdering war criminal that worships Stalin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Matthew Koch said: Protesting her in the bathroom looks to have been a mistake.. The actual following her into the bathroom is less than tacky. SNL is still funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Sinema is a joke; she is purchased, and has no core beliefs. She knew she would be primaried in her next election, so she switched to claiming she's an Independent in order to be on the ballot in 2024. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Yes, huge story on Fox News! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Horseshoe leftists love to try to complicate the simple, but the reality is this: They simply prefer authoritarianism to democracy, and are ashamed to admit it. A nice guide to modern bootlickers: https://medium.com/@areidross/from-exile-to-dirtbag-edgelord-geopolitics-and-the-rise-of-national-bolshevism-in-the-u-s-84822021b0e8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Elon Musk still way out there in crazy world; I'm guessing his advertisers and bank lenders are not amused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cotter Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Matt Allison said: And what civilians would those be? See, all the civilians in Donetsk either fled or will killed when Russia first invaded. Ukraine is bombing the occupying Russian army. But you know that already, just like everyone does. You just happen to enjoy defending a mass murdering war criminal that worships Stalin. Are you just making things up, Matt? According to this Reuters report, which hasn’t been denied by the Ukrainians, at least six civilians were killed by Ukrainian shelling in Donetsk in just one incident in September. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-installed-separatists-say-least-six-killed-shelling-donetsk-market-2022-09-22/ Edited December 10, 2022 by John Cotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 John- Your simping for Putin is tiresome. Putin is the one that invaded. Everyone knows that, including you. https://news.yahoo.com/occupiers-kill-nine-civilians-donetsk-064222977.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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