Victor Marchetti on "CIA to 'Admit' Hunt Involvement in Kennedy Slaying"

[Douglas Caddy]

Edited October 5, 2023 by Douglas Caddy

[Douglas Caddy]

[Douglas Caddy]

[Paul Brancato]

They haven’t so far admitted that. What’s your take on the article? 

[Gerry Down]

Let’s consider a timeline of Hunt being tied to the JFK assassination:

• 1966: Alleged date the internal CIA memo is published which states essentially that "Some day we will have to explain Hunt's presence in Dallas on November 22, 1963".
• 1975: The book “Coup d'Etat in America” is first published. It names Hunt as one of the three tramps.
• 1978?: CIA hand over to the HSCA the internal memo regarding Hunt which was allegedly written in 1966.

Is it possible the CIA piggy-backed off the 1975 book which alleged Hunt was in Dealey Plaza on Nov 22^nd 1963 as one of the three tramps, and the CIA then proceeded to fake this internal CIA memo in 1978 (which alleged to have been written in 1966) as revenge against Hunt and also to waste the HSCAs time in its investigation of the JFK assassination?

When was Hunt first tied to the JFK assassination? Was it in the 1975 book, or was he linked to the assassination before this date?

[Jonathan Cohen]

Sadly, "Coup d'Etat in America" is worthless as serious scholarship of the case.

[Douglas Caddy]

David Talbot, as is usual with his writing, is right on target.

 

Inside the plot to kill JFK: The secret story of the CIA and what really happened in Dallas | Salon.com

Edited October 6, 2023 by Douglas Caddy

[Robert Reeves]

10 hours ago, Jonathan Cohen said:

Sadly, "Coup d'Etat in America" is worthless as serious scholarship of the case.

It's interesting how often you become triggered into evaluating information regarding the Three Tramps. A.J. Weberman may be a pot smoking Bob Dylan admitted stalker, but he was, along with Garrison, seemingly, doing more work to track down who the three tramps were than the FBI, CIA, Dallas Police, SS or anyone else.

In Fact, A.J. Weberman offered, and paid, quite considerable amounts to a couple of the police officers photographed with the tramps for interviews. At least someone bothered!

 

[Benjamin Cole]

10 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

David Talbot, as is usual with his writing, is right on target.

 

Inside the plot to kill JFK: The secret story of the CIA and what really happened in Dallas | Salon.com

Great article. I do not know if it is true or not. 

[Jonathan Cohen]

8 hours ago, Robert Reeves said:

A.J. Weberman may be a pot smoking Bob Dylan admitted stalker, but he was, along with Garrison, seemingly, doing more work to track down who the three tramps were than the FBI, CIA, Dallas Police, SS or anyone else.

In Fact, A.J. Weberman offered, and paid, quite considerable amounts to a couple of the police officers photographed with the tramps for interviews. At least someone bothered!

And your point is .... ? Just because he did "more work" than others doesn't mean his work has any validity to it whatsoever. Of course it is clear now that the three tramps do not include Charles Harrelson and Howard Hunt -- they're the three ordinary men whose DPD arrest records were found by the LaFontaines in the early 1990s.

[Norman T. Field]

Chauncey Holt's book makes it quite clear that there were two different sets of 3 tramps arrested. Harrelson was in Holt's group and Hunt was with the other trio. 

[James DiEugenio]

This really has little to do with Weberman or Holt.

As we all know, the first time around Spotlight lost the case to Hunt.

On appeal, Mark Lane came in.  

I cannot begin to summarize Plausible Denial, but it was a very interesting period of discovery and a trial.

It turned out that there really was a memo by Angleton saying that they needed to devise an alibi for Hunt being in Dallas on the day of the assassination.  The memo did not say he was dressed as a tramp. Angleton had shown it to Joe Trento.

With that piece of evidence, Lane went to work on tearing apart the alibi that Hunt had for being on the East Coast.

The jury agreed with Lane.  Hunt lost the case on appeal.

 

[Pat Speer]

3 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

This really has little to do with Weberman or Holt.

As we all know, the first time around Spotlight lost the case to Hunt.

On appeal, Mark Lane came in.  

I cannot begin to summarize Plausible Denial, but it was a very interesting period of discovery and a trial.

It turned out that there really was a memo by Angleton saying that they needed to devise an alibi for Hunt being in Dallas on the day of the assassination.  The memo did not say he was dressed as a tramp. Angleton had shown it to Joe Trento.

With that piece of evidence, Lane went to work on tearing apart the alibi that Hunt had for being on the East Coast.

The jury agreed with Lane.  Hunt lost the case on appeal.

 

I think you were here, Jim, when Trento joined the forum and confirmed he'd been shown the memo. As I recall, he said he couldn't authenticate it, or say for sure why Angleton showed it to him, but he wanted it made clear he was in fact shown a memo saying what he said it did. 

[James DiEugenio]

Actually I was not here, would have loved to have been in on the discussion.

[Jean Ceulemans]

On 10/6/2023 at 7:14 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Actually I was not here, would have loved to have been in on the discussion.

 

Edited October 8, 2023 by Jean Ceulemans