Matt Allison Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) Well, that's quite an apocalyptic take there, Joe. Biden addressed NATO yesterday; it seems it went very well. Maybe watch that? Edited July 10 by Matt Allison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Fite Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: If Biden somehow wins the election, I predict he won't make it through 2025. And God help Kamala Harris. Joe - you've put your finger on another issue. How many people voting for / against Biden consider it as a vote on the next 2 presidents? The VP nomination at the convention may be contested even if Biden goes through as the nominee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 (edited) Note to anyone who cares: I never was a Trump supporter. See my post of the New Republic cover. There is a difference between supporting Trump (which I do not) and thinking Russiagate was vapors, and the Jan 6. episode not fully explained, or only explained as a party narrative. (Remember, we only have government investigations of those events. The WC was also a government investigation. No defense counsel to raise new evidence, challenge evidence or present other narratives). I also think the Deep State torpedoed Nixon. Believe me, I think Nixon should have been impeached, maybe jailed for what he did in Laos alone. That is separate from whether Watergate was a Nixon trap. Couldn't of happened to a nicer guy. And Carter was run off through Op Mocks-Irangate (to put Bush Sr. in the de facto White House), and most obviously, JFK and RFK1 were deposed. And maybe lately RFK2, through Op Mocks. I can't seen care much about the pending election. I had hopes for RFK2...but he is fading badly. I don't know why the Donks don't draft RFK2. I think he would win. Edited July 10 by Benjamin Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 10 Author Share Posted July 10 Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard Tulsi Gabbard speaks: "People have a clear choice: A vote for Biden/Harris is a vote to allow the unelected power hungry puppet masters in the administrative state and war machine to continue to run our country and take us further into the world of tyranny, war, and closer to the brink of nuclear armageddon than ever before. Or vote for Trump who can turn things around and wrestle control from the war machine and deep state, so we can make progress toward a country that’s actually free, prosperous and at peace." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 imo, Tulsi Gabbard's loyalties are not with the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Well, Nancy Pelosi just drove the bus over Biden on Morning Joe, and I've been around long enough to know she is the most effective politician in DC. The anti-Biden folks better hope this works, because there will be a lot of angry people, and no party in the modern era has ever changed Presidential candidates 4 months before an election and won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 (edited) I am not a Biden hater. I am not a Harris hater. I voted for them in 2020. But I trust my own lifetime experience developed common sense. For the last year I have been observing Biden whenever he appeared on television. His physical and mental decline is now astoundingly pronounced and to a seriously disabled degree imo. If Biden was a beloved relative or friend and didn't have a massive support staff at his beck and call 24/7 I would understand his loving wife hiring in-home nursing aides to help her take care and watch over him, especially when he is walking. And perhaps moving them both into an assisted living situation if they could afford this. In 2020 I felt Biden was much less physically vigorous and mentally quick and sharp versus almost every other primary candidate to the point of feeling concern about him taking on such an epically demanding job as President for four years. I did not vote for Biden in our primary. I did vote for Biden in the final election. As much to keep his only 3 years younger psychopathic opponent from regaining the office of the Presidency as to getting our country back to a more working-class considering policy agenda versus one blatantly favoring the top 1%. However, in my view Biden has declined in every way in the last 4 years. ( especially this last year ) to a point of disbelief that anyone could not see how feeble and fragile he has actually become. I didn't need to see Biden's unprecedented physically and cognitively diminished performance in the debacle debate to determine this reality. I had already concluded such just by watching him on TV the last year. I challenge anyone who watched Biden in the Decline-Gate debate to tell me "with all honesty" they think Biden wasn't that bad and that he won't get worse as nature takes it's natural aging degenerative course. As it has in the last 4 years. Biden's not going to miraculously get any stronger physically and mentally. He just isn't. Only worse. Yes, under the right preparatory conditions and in brief spurts he can be presented in a slightly sharper light. But this is not the true reality of his full major decline overall. And every rational, honest and responsibly concerned person knows this. I watched Biden give a brief, scripted and teleprompter guided speech at a rally in North Carolina a day or two after his debate debacle. Okay, he sounded better than he did in the debate, but imo not THAT much. He was in his rested day time state. Which his family and staff stated was between 10:am and 4:pm. Another time frame I read for his daytime alertness was 11:am to 5:pm. Biden took no questions. He rushed off asap afterwards. I also watched Biden being interviewed by George Stephanopoulos on ABC TV. I saw the same decline issues I saw in the Great Debate! Except Biden's face had color due to a very good makeup makeover. Now we have him speaking at the Nato conference. I watched this. Again, I didn't see some "hugely" improved and stronger performance. Better than debate? Yes - of course. Some media spokespersons have stated that the real test of Biden's cognitive sharpness will be when he gives an audience an hour and 1/2 of unscripted, non-teleprompter assisted answers to their questions. And maybe having him do this outside of his only 6 hour window of rested alertness? The downplaying of Biden's true level of decline is being pushed and promoted so aggressively it disturbs my sense of honest reality. The defeat of Trump this election is the most important American political issue in my lifetime. The consequences of the psychopathic, sociopathic Trump being elected into the office of the Presidency would be catastrophic. Truly, I am "praying" whoever runs on the Democratic ticket ( even if it is Biden ) wins this election. And looking at the polls it seems praying is all most of have left to cling to in this truly scary time. Edited July 11 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said: Tulsi Gabbard @TulsiGabbard Tulsi Gabbard speaks: "People have a clear choice: A vote for Biden/Harris is a vote to allow the unelected power hungry puppet masters in the administrative state and war machine to continue to run our country and take us further into the world of tyranny, war, and closer to the brink of nuclear armageddon than ever before. Or vote for Trump who can turn things around and wrestle control from the war machine and deep state, so we can make progress toward a country that’s actually free, prosperous and at peace." Ben, the forum's foremost hawk now posting Tulsi Gabbard? Why should anyone take you seriously? And Gabbard and Laura Ingraham are supposed to give us some real insight into Kamala Harris here? That was your aim? I actually on this thread, addressed this whole issue of the members of the forum endorsing candidates purely on a myopic JFKA centric basis with an example that happened before you got here which I thought might ring a bell to you as you are the foremost proponent of political endorsement currently on the forum with RK. The example involves Tulsi Gabbard who became the forum political darling for simply having a copy of Douglas's "JFK and the unspeakable" in her arms and saying she plans to read it sometime. Gabbard now promises that RK will drop out and help Trump defeat Biden. I then showed a clip of her recent appearance with Bill Maher. Where it's obvious she's completely fos. Unfortunately youtube took off the presentation. So I've substituted here a shortened clip of it with a commentary in a podcast. I'd sooner not have that, but this guy's a smart guy. Get some balance Ben. We have a much more comprehensive idea of where RK stands than you do! My original post can be seen here as the next to last post on the page. https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30589-the-jfk-assassination-records-act-discussion/page/18/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Michael Moore about the debate. (excerpt) I include some of his praise of Biden as well.. Was it really a debate if one of the debaters is so mentally and physically incapacitated that he cannot complete a sentence, randomly flips between discussing abortion, the three trimesters of a pregnancy and how great his golf game is, then looking around, unable to find one of the four cameras pointing at him, he suddenly turns his head all the way to the left as if he were looking for Rhode Island, and then out of nowhere raises his voice and shouts, “WE FINALLY BEAT MEDICARE!” Not Ohio State, but Medicare. We saw and we heard all of that, no matter what the Party hacks keep telling us. It was heartbreaking. It was truly, without equivocation, unlike anything any of us had ever seen. No matter where you stood on the Joe Biden scale, from Joe the Working Class Hero to Joe the Banker of Palestinian Ethnic Cleansing, one thing was certain: This was not a cold. This was a human being in utter collapse. Not just political collapse, or performance collapse, but rather a full frontal lobe meltdown where at any moment you had to wonder… was it possible that the sweet and fragile existence we call “life” was about to short-circuit, or worse, lose power (to Trump)? And that no amount of shouting “STAT!” or cutting quickly to a commercial break was going to restore the President-cum-Patient to full capacity in order to save this even more fragile Democracy. Do not mistake my criticisms of Biden spending 9 months in the loving embrace of Bibi Netanyahu as meaning that I do not deeply appreciate his 3 years of being the most progressive President of my lifetime. That’s right, my friends, there has been more action taken, through executive orders and legislation, to protect the environment, more government officials appointed who are, in their heart of hearts, Democratic Socialists, more serious funding to lift millions out of poverty, more support for labor unions, libraries, single mothers and college students deep in debt. And he has had this fervent, almost religious zeal to fight greed and obscene profits due to a true compassion he has for those dealt a bad hand in life — and he has had more of all of that than all the good presidents like Kennedy, Obama, and Carter were able to muster. He will have another mini stroke in the next few months (he’s probably had one or two already) and then, sadly, the decline will not be reversed. Best to make a plan now and not wait until October. This is not about whether he’s fit to serve another four years — this is about whether he should serve another four days in the toughest job in the world. That’s the question we should be asking. If he offered to drive you from Flint to Detroit tonight, would you get in the car? https://www.michaelmoore.com/p/we-are-asking-the-wrong-question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted July 10 Share Posted July 10 Switching out Biden for Harris is a giant gamble. While it will energize the youth vote, it will upset black voters and older folks. Youth vote turnout is notoriously unreliable; quite the opposite for older voters. I think Biden's popularity amongst average folks is really being underestimated. There is a lot of peril in doing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 (edited) 8 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Ben, the forum's foremost hawk now posting Tulsi Gabbard? Why should anyone take you seriously? And Gabbard and Laura Ingraham are supposed to give us some real insight into Kamala Harris here? That was your aim? I actually on this thread, addressed this whole issue of the members of the forum endorsing candidates purely on a myopic JFKA centric basis with an example that happened before you got here which I thought might ring a bell to you as you are the foremost proponent of political endorsement currently on the forum with RK. The example involves Tulsi Gabbard who became the forum political darling for simply having a copy of Douglas's "JFK and the unspeakable" in her arms and saying she plans to read it sometime. Gabbard now promises that RK will drop out and help Trump defeat Biden. I then showed a clip of her recent appearance with Bill Maher. Where it's obvious she's completely fos. Unfortunately youtube took off the presentation. So I've substituted here a shortened clip of it with a commentary in a podcast. I'd sooner not have that, but this guy's a smart guy. Get some balance Ben. We have a much more comprehensive idea of where RK stands than you do! My original post can be seen here as the next to last post on the page. https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/30589-the-jfk-assassination-records-act-discussion/page/18/ KG- I just post items I find interesting. If you do not take me seriously...well, neither do I. Tulsi Gabbard is interesting, and I enjoyed her phrase "puppet masters" to describe the people manipulating Biden. Given what Garland/Biden did to the JFK Records Act...can we totally dismiss her perspective? This thread is supposed to be about the JFK Records Act, not that it matters. But maybe for fleeting moment, if we stay on topic--- We know the Biden Administration in fact perped a snuff job on the JFK Records Act---do you have an explanation as to why? Edited July 11 by Benjamin Cole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 Interesting stories here, one from the righties at the Post and another one (posted first) from the lefties at Politico. I live in Thailand now, and the Jewish population here is nil, so I am no expert on Jews leaving the D-Party. What I see on X-twitter, which may not representative, is a great deal of anger at Biden and the D-Party, for a perceived alliance with anti-Semitic regimes at Ivy League campuses, using DEI as a baseball bat against Jews, and above all, for a perceived chumminess with the "Ku Keffiyeh Klan." The Jewish vote is rather small, much less than the Black or Hispanic vote, and the Jewish vote is concentrated in states Biden can take for granted, like NY and CA. Still, certain battleground states are close. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 The NY Post. Snuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 On 7/9/2024 at 2:59 PM, Cliff Varnell said: Or not. Bernie and AOC back Biden. Joe ain't leaving. We all best get used to it! Or not. I can't think of any prior ambivalence I've had to compare with this. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/10/dems-fear-biden-fundraising-cratering-00167496 Dems fear Biden’s fundraising is ‘cratering’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) Ben, where do you get the idea Politico is "lefty" iike a Murdoch publication is "righty"? I don't think you realize the "liberal media" is a myth. Edited July 11 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts