Brad Milch

Hi again, Chris: I have been thinking about an opportunity that exists from the recent filming of the JFK ambush conducted in Dealey Plaza for the Stephen King mini-series '11.22.63' for several skilled JFK researchers to work together or separately on providing global answers to many of the riddles the JFK assassination presents. The King film crews involved shot a lot of film of the replica JFK parade car & the SS Queen Mary with actor stand-ins representing the JFK entourage & the SS agents plus two JFK assistants in the Queen Mary that was not used in any of the 8 Episodes shown on Hula. The actor stand-ins is what's been missing from previous ambush re-enactments in addition to having both the JFK parade car & The SS 'Queen Mary' both present on site. The King filming involved the JFK limo & Queen Mary clones' travel towards the TSBD from Houston Street, the Elm St. intersection left turn and the brief trip down Elm going into & out of the 'tunnel' created by the triple overpass. Filming was conducted from many vantage points in Dealey Plaza, including the 7th floor S/E corner window (one floor above the alleged 'sniper's nest': the same spot Oliver Stone used for his film 'JFK'). My question to you is this: If Mr. King (or Oliver Stone) were to make available to you & others (by posting it on the Internet) the film footage they shot from the 7th floor of the TSBD of the agents in the Queen Mary (that was tailgating JFK's parade car), could you (or others) determine mathematically where the alleged shooter would have to be aiming his rifle to achieve the hits that he made (taking into consideration how the FBI determined the alleged murder weapon was firing 'high & to the right')? Could you (or others) determine with math if the agents or their transport car presented an obstacle to a clear line of sight from shooter to the impact point on JFK's head (with special focus on the Queen Mary's windshield height, length & width plus the two SS agents standing on the right running board & Clint Hill attempting to board the rear bumper of the JFK parade car)? Could a computer animator (such as Dale Meyers) use that footage & your math (or others) to include the SS agents & their vehicle in his well known JFK ambush simulation that was first broadcast to the public on ABC's Peter Jennings narrated TV documentary 'Beyond Conspiracy' that doesn't feature them? IOW, could Mr. Meyers fix his animation's faults with yours & Mr. King's help (or others)? If it can be mathematically proven that no blockage existed from shooter's weapon to JFK's head at z-313, I'm wondering if your math (based on Stephen King's film footage) could tell us with accuracy just how much clearance the bullet that killed President Kennedy had when traveling over the Queen Mary's front seat passengers, running board riders, windshield, long, fat hood & front fenders? By having film footage shot from the upper floors of the TSBD of the JFK parade car & SS Queen Mary clones correctly positioned on Elm St. (starting with the z-313 location) with actor stand-ins included, could you (or others) fix the errors & deceptions Hoover's FBI & Rowley's SS made by using the wrong car to represent JFK & his real vehicle & excluding the SS car & agents from being factored into their re-enactments published in the WC & seen on the 1964 SS reenactment film? Do today's JFK researchers have all the visual tools they need to completely start from scratch the original & subsequent Government ambush re-enactments? What more would be needed? Sincerely, BM PS: I'm thinking of Robert Prudhomme's research efforts & yours also in past collaborations concerning the marksmanship facts & puzzles of the JFK ambush as I'm writing this. I am visualizing a scared person quickly pointing a rifle out of a window & firing it in the general direction of body mass, without the use of a scope or fixed sights, as well as using those tools & aiming low & left to achieve the impact points that were achieved in the shooting allegedly from the TSBD 'sniper's nest" half-opened window. I am visualizing a shooter from the TSBD 6th floor S/E 'sniper's nest' half-opened window having his rifle barrel pointed at a point somewhere around Clint Hill dashing towards the rear bumper of JFK's parade car (as JFK is falling forward & to his left), squeezing the trigger, with the bullet traveling high & to the right & colliding with JFK's head & killing him instantly as I write this....I believe your math (and others) can tell us if this occurred or not. Chris, you already know what a dummy I am when it comes to math (I failed Calculus 3 times in college). I bring this to your attention because I have complete faith in your math & reasoning gifts; if you were to tell me that I owed you money for a 5 dollar burger & I had given you a ten, I would not argue about it (lol).

Tom, Now that Episode 8 has been viewed on computer screens globally & I won't be ruining the ending for anyone, I wanted to quickly say that Stephen King has joined the long list of visual propagandists that had an opportunity to show the public if a shot from the alleged TSBD 'sniper's nest" was even possible at Z-313 with historically accurate clones of the JFK parade car & SS Queen Mary (along with actor stand-ins correctly positioned on Elm Street) as viewed from a rifle targeting the back of JFK's head & misused that opportunity to sell visual snake oil. Beginning with the FBI & SS re-enactments late Nov-early Dec 1963, the SS follow-up car & actor stand-ins vanished from the photographic re-enactments as if they were not present during the actual ambush; the public now knows better. King repeats this despicable omission in Episode 8, the SS agents & their follow-up vehicle tailgating JFK's parade car down Elm Street to the Z-313 (kill shot) are not shown. The SS agents & their car tailgating JFK's limo down Elm Street are missing from the infamous Dale Meyers JFK ambush re-enactment cartoon that so impressed Peter Jennings over a decade ago, just as they are absent from the rigged CBS TV specials James DiEugenio is discussing in another thread. In fact, they are missing from all the CBS TV specials covering the JFK assassination, just as they are missing from all other re-enactments (including Oliver Stone's movie 'JFK'). I can confidently state that the global public has never seen an accurate depiction visually of what an alleged gunman saw from the TSBD 'sniper's nest' half-opened window with all historical factors in place, just as they were 53 years ago, had such a gunman been peering down the barrel of a rifle and squeezing the trigger at Z-313 (or a couple frames prior). What's been left out is what the public today needs to zero in on. If we are going to be continuously told a man with a rifle shot another man in a car from a specific window in a specific building, we, as a public, have a right to see visual proof that such an event was possible in the first place, with particular focus being on the shot that changed JFK from being a live human into a dead one & earned the shooter murderer status. Until that is accomplished, we, as a global public, are still stuck back at 12:30 PM CST 22 Nov 1963. We still don't know what happened, who was responsible for it & why. A TV mini-series like '11.22.63' doesn't bring us closer to the truth, it acts more like its own depiction of 'the past fighting back'. Maybe Mr. King will use that as his crutch? A lot of JFK LN propaganda agents have tried to focus the public attention away from those agents & their car beginning with the very 1st Government re-enactments. All those sordid efforts have failed; the global public knows the SS agents & their car were present during the actual ambush like a caboose is connected to a train locomotive. To a TSBD 'sniper's nest shooter, they represent a line of sight blockage from said 'sniper's nest' shooter to JFK's head at the z-313 explosion. The simplest solution to eliminate the blockage has historically been to remove it visually but we as a global public continuously bring them back into focus. As with the others before him, I don't buy it. I never have & never will. I've been to the crime scene many times. Simply standing at the Z-313 'street X' on Elm Street (re-enacting JFK) with a taller friend standing in the way of the 'sniper's nest' view will demonstrate to the global public what Stephen King & the others before him didn't show them; the taller friend blocks the view of the lower portion of the 'sniper's nest' window to the person standing on the Z-313 Elm St. 'street X'. This is why I believe the 'sniper's nest' window is not available for the public to look at Elm Street from at the 6th Floor Museum: if the public sees that a shot to JFK's head at Z-313 with a taller car full of men directly behind JFK's car was blocked by the taller car's windshield & long hood (or the men standing on the running board on Emory Robert's side of the Queen Mary), it means the explosion to JFK's head at Z-313 evidenced in the Zapruder film did not originate from the TSBD sniper's nest window. The other two shots may have come from that window, but not the shot that killed JFK. Simply stated, the case against LHO vanishes if he (or anyone else) could not get a bullet from a 'sniper's nest' rifle to impact JFK's head at Z-313 because there was no clear line of sight available to the shooter on 22 Nov 1963 without hitting the obstacle 1st. I challenge Stephen King to make available to the public the film footage his crew took of the ambush as seen from the 7th floor of TSBD's depiction of a rifleman sighted in on JFK's head at Z-313, as well of the line of sight view to the window from the Z-313 spot with both the JFK parade car & SS Queen Mary with actor stand-in placed where they were on Elm Street during the actual ambush. Give the public the visual tools the Government denied it when the WC was released as the official explanation of the crime & bogus, rigged TV specials began supporting it. Being filmed from the 7th floor of the TSBD, the line of sight will be off the difference in height from the two floors, but it will be better than the inaccurate BS the public was initially fed. I extend this challenge to all filming that has ever taken place by other TV & movie producers (including Oliver Stone) that had the two motorcade cars in correct positions on Elm St. (with actor stand ins) & filmed looking down at JFK's stand-in's head at Z-313. Show us that footage too. Had LHO lived to stand trial, I believe his lawyer(s) would have started either where John Armstrong/Jim Hargrove's research is at this point on the alleged money order purchase of the MC rifle or where what Mr. King omitted from Episode 8: that neither LHO (or anyone else) could get a shot from the TSBD's half-opened 'sniper's nest' window to the back of JFK's head because of a line of sight blockage from the rifle to JFK's head. The blockage was the windshield, hood and/or SS agents standing on the Queen Mary's right side running board. Until a LN book can demonstrate to me that no line of sight blockage existed at 12:30 PM Nov 22, 1963, the author can forget about me ever buying or reading their book. Step 1 of this crime has always been the simplest one: demonstrate with visual evidence that a 6th floor shooter could hit JFK in his head at Z-313 & kill him at Z-313. Do that, & then start the trial (or write that LN book in its place). The rest of it is just a waste of time if one can't prove a TSBD 'sniper's nest' shooter had a clear line of sight to the back of JFK's head at Z-313. Z-313 is the shot that killed President Kennedy; the most important of the 3 bullets allegedly fired 53 years ago. It's the shot that changed a shooter into a murderer. The Government & all its MSM groupies have failed to prove that one basic, simple allegation: the shooter was in the TSBD 6th floor 'sniper's nest' half-opened window & used a rifle to make the shot that killed JFK without striking any obstructions in the road immediately behind him. Until that is visually proven, there is no case against LHO. I liked the movie 'Carrie'. Joseph Goebbels might have appreciated the slickness of '11.22.63', but I don't. It may come as a surprise & shock to Mr. King that his audience knows more about the subject he writes about than he does & does not appreciate being played as dumb chumps. He owes a lot of people a lot time they could have spent better doing other things than wasting it watching King's TV historically inaccurate garbage, IMHO. I expect James DiEugenio & other noted, respected JFK researchers/authors/webmasters will smell the snake oil in this mini-series & squeeze every last drop of it out for the global public to see & avoid. As for me, for playing me as a dumb chump on this topic, I, in turn, shall punish Mr. King by keeping my hard earned money in my pocket whenever I see his name on products for sale to the public. BM

Thank you, James DiEugenio. This is a must read that is sure to shock & disgust a global audience. Some of the people (and their clones) James writes about in this analysis are responsible for ruining the MSM in the past, present & eventually the future (or their clones will be). A few personal comments from the peanut gallery (me): Several of my Professors in college 'back in the day' consistently told me & my classmates that almost everything we see broadcast on TV is a lie. That includes cooking shows & home lawn care shows; the cooking shows don't show you the burnt food, the cut fingers, the damage to your body certain foods cause just as lawn care shows leave out cancer & other diseases that some lawn care chemicals expose happy homeowners with pretty yards to (not to mention the wildlife & their environment struggling to survive constant & consistant mini-nukings from lawn enthusiasts). It's all a farce, the learned ones told us back in class. Spreading the influential farce pays well; it can make superstars out of some MSM folks. Google the net worth of Dan Rather, Anderson Cooper, Bill O'Reilly & many other famous & easily recognized TV news journalists to get an idea of just how well deceiving the global public pays off. I am of the opinion that after many generations of being lied to on radio, TV & at the movie theatre, if our Creator were to someday speak to the human race on TV or radio, the general global public would doubt it's really our Creator speaking to them. There was a time before I came along on this Earth when scoundrels were not rewarded by being made multi-millionaires or kept in power slots; it was more along the lines of the formula: rope + tree + scoundrel = justice I anticipate part 2. Great job done, Mr. DiEugenio! fwiw BM

Hi there, Kathleen Questions 4 & 7, I pulled from the research of Larry Rivera from a video I believe he put together for YouTube entitled 'The JFK Horsemen': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlMwxZPNpTM The video presentation is based on the book, 'Murder From Within' & the research efforts of Larry Rivera & others identified in the video as based on interviews with Dallas police motorcycle motorcade officers that give a far different account of what occurred during and after the ambush of JFK & his entourage. It and segments based on it started appearing on the Internet in the last two years & there is much discord among some JFK researchers about it. You may have heard the portion concerning DPD motorcycle officer Chaney supposedly stating that after the last shot, Chaney drove ahead of JFK's stricken parade car on Elm Street & notified Jesse Curry that JFK had been fatally shot. The video claims that really happened at the alleged stop West of the triple underpass. The exact spot is featured in several YouTube & Internet website presentations; I'll see if I can run more of them down for you if you have trouble locating them. Googling Larry Rivera, JFK Horsemen or 'Murder From Within' should lead you to the updated, expanded presentations posted on the Web after the release of 'The JFK Horsemen'. Since that research based on 'Murder From Within' appeared on the Internet, an associate of Larry Rivera has apparently fallen from favor in the general JFK research community. I encourage you to watch the video regardless of the turmoil; JFK researchers, regardless if they are on the LN or CT side of the fence are often known for ganging up on some select researchers at one time or another for some type of JFK community offense. To illustrate, fairly recently, Dale Meyers, a well established & likeable LN'er tore into another LN'er's research & subsequent Nat Geo TV documentary based on it ('JFK-The Lost Bullet' & Max Holland) over the alleged 1st shot striking the Elm Street traffic light or its mast. Dale expands his position in detail on his blog & Max Holland has offered a rebuttal to the criticism. I read everything, regardless if researchers praise other researchers or not. It all matters to me. All the questions I posted are from different aspects of the JFK case that some researchers have spent a lifetime working on (such as David Lifton) that have yet to get a comment on from Mr. Hill. His comments matter; he was there & most of us were not. Although Mr. Hill clearly is evident as a key player, participant or observer in much of the JFK assassination story, I wasn't able to come up with questions to cover the work of all researchers, such as Jim Hargrove or John Armstrong, both of whom I follow their research efforts very closely. If I can find something that directly involves Mr. Hill from their collective works, I will add those additional questions to the list I started in this thread. Question 7 also incorporates the research of the late Jack White. Jack was involved in a healthy difference of opinion right here at Ed Forum with several researchers that specialized (or claimed they did) in the JFK visual evidence. The Miller (aka 'Corham) photo has been interpreted several different ways, including that the photo shows JFK's limp wrist & arm as well as what was originally labeled as JFK's shoe is indeed his shoe (or a shoe that belongs to a phantom SS agent that allegedly boarded the JFK parade car at the location West of the triple underpass discussed in 'The JFK Horsemen'). Besides the officers involved, a DPD officer stationed on the 1st bridge past the triple underpass allegedly witnessed the stop & DPD motorcycles rallying up around Jesse Curry before all got on Stemmons freeway & headed for Parkland. The officer is named in the video & he allegedly reported that he smelled gunsmoke as all involved departed the area. Some of the questions originate from the research, books & Internet presentations of David Lifton, Doug Horne, Vince Palamara, the late Howard Donahue & Bonar Menninger ('Mortal Error' 1992). I've been skimming through the massive research made available to the global public from famous authors James DiEugenio & Pat Speer, if I can find a question in their monumental work that I can address to Mr. Hill to comment on, I will add such questions to the list as well. If you visit enough websites & blogs, you may be surprised in the comments how many globally suspect one or more of the JFK SS agents in his parade car or the follow-up car behind it, murdered the late President (Mr. Palamara has written many times on the Internet that he suspects Emory Roberts shot JFK on Elm Street & former SS agent Paul Landis can be seen & heard complaining of such public suspicions in the TV documentary, 'The Kennedy Detail'). In my list, I tried to assemble as many questions that persons interested in the case discuss in various online blogs, books & YouTube presentations & often complain that government officials & MSM folks will not discuss under any circumstances or conduct interviews & let the authors discuss the research on TV or radio. None of the questions represent a slant or agenda on my part. As those who know me as a non-researcher, but very much interested in the case lifelong student, my viewpoint is very simple; I was playing marbles in 5th grade at recess at a Middle School on the East coast when theJFK assassination occurred. I wasn't there & I am included in the quagmire of people that don't know what happened to JFK, who was responsible & why. If I had to narrow it down to one or 2 authors that's taken the public the closest to the truth, I'd immediately pick David Lifton, Howard Donahue & Doug Horne. Feel free to add as many questions to the list that you would like Mr. Hill to respond to. There's a lot of shadows hanging in the air on a lot of material & I couldn't think of just everything people seem to be puzzled about globally. Mr. Hill, like his 1963 JFK administration SS peers, is a controversial man, regardless if he informs the public of what he knows first hand or not. If any of these questions (and more) strike a deep nerve in Mr. Hill, I believe the public & JFK authors should focus on them every opportunity they can while Mr. Hill lives & can come clean of information that would help bring closure to JFK's murder, autopsy & burial. Best wishes, Brad Milch

Mr. Caddy: I'd like to compile a list of questions for Mr. Clint Hill here on your thread that he has not discussed publicly in interviews posted on the Internet, in MSM TV presentations or in books authored by Mr. Hill in the 53 years since the death of President Kennedy. Perhaps Mr. Hill will see the questions here at Ed Forum & realize people interested in the case would like to hear what his comments are on those topics. He might include comments on these topics at his latest advertised speaking engagement. I'll start it off (feel free to add to this list): 1. Mr. Hill, did you observe a bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's parade car on the way to Parkland or when the car arrived back in Washington, D.C.? 2. What are your comments concerning David Lifton & Doug Horne both alleging that JFK's body was removed from the casket aboard AF-1 & placed in the aircraft's cargo bay at Love Field by SS men? 3. Was JFK's body sent ahead to Bethesda via helicopter or black hearse prior to the grey Navy ambulance that the public was told contained JFK's casket that TV viewers witnessed Jackie Kennedy boarding on network TV? Was the coffin really empty? If so, why was a pre-autopsy of JFK done? 4. Did the JFK parade car make a stop just West of the Triple underpass immediately after the ambush, prior to entering the Stemmons Freeway? What occurred? Did an additional SS agent board the Presidential parade car? 5. Several witnesses are on record stating their either saw or smelled gun smoke in Dealey Plaza during or after the ambush. Did you see or smell gun smoke in Dealey plaza during & after the ambush? 6. Some early radio & TV news bulletins from Dealey Plaza as well as some witnesses (Bill Newman is one such witness) described men quickly dismounting the SS followup car ('Queen Mary') with rifles or machine guns & running up the grassy knoll in pursuit of someone. Did you see any of this reported activity? 7. A famous photograph depicting JFK's limo & occupants (with you on the car's trunk) traveling to Parkland hospital following the ambush is believed to show either JFK's foot (or someone else's foot) or hand & elbow hanging out of the back seat of the car (I believe it's called the 'Miller' or the 'Corham photo'). Can you tell us what the photo actually depicts? 8. What are your comments on the TV documentary called 'JFK - The Smoking Gun' that was shown globally in the last few years that puts forth the theory that an SS agent in the followup car behind JFK on Elm Street accidentally shot the late President while attempting to return fire to the alleged TSBD 6th floor sniper or the theories that JFK's driver (agent Bill Greer) murdered the President? Did you see or hear anyone in JFK's parade car or the SS followup car directly behind it fire any type of weapon(s) in Dealey Plaza? 9. In your memory, did any of the witness amateur films & photos of the assassination that you viewed in a Government employee capacity differ from what was released to the public in any way, shape or form? 10. If you could go back in time & experience the assassination again, what would you do differently this time? *- -BM

@Tom: While killing time waiting for Episode 7 to air March 28, 2016, I googled the net worth of some of King's actors we see in the TV mini-series '11.22.63'. Most of them are multi-millionaires; not hungry, desperate for work actors by any stretch of the imagination: - James Franco (California actor that plays Jake, the time traveler) = 20+ million - Brooklyn Sudano (daughter of the late disco singer Donna Summers who plays Jake's ex-wife) = 75 million - Lucy Fry (Australian actress that plays Marina Oswald) = 7 million - George MacKay (English actor that plays Jake's assistant, Bill) = 3 million+ - Sarah Gadon (Canadian actress who plays Sadie, Jake's love interest) = 1 million - Daniel Webber (Australian actor that plays LHO) = 3 million+ One of the poorest actors is North Carolina actor Nick Searcy (Nick plays principal Deke Simmons). According to Google, Nick's bank chump change is 500 thousand. Nick, IMHO, is the most believable actor in the entire series I've seen thus far. Initially, King's mini-series attracted my interest because of the vintage cars, the portrayal of the time period & the great acting. King's ship started to take on water with me during the historically inaccurate, downright lies BS he started slipping into the script & screenplay midways into the series. Up to this point, it's been bad, even worse than Bill O'Reilly's & Martin Dugard's 'Killing Kennedy' & Tom Hanks' 2008 based Vincent Bugliosi book 'Parkland' (both from 2013) IMHO. If I could, I'd send the entire Stephen King mess to the bottom of the ocean to roommate along with the aforementioned & Titanic after the last two episodes are broadcast and King doesn't stop playing with the truth (as we know it or think we know it). Like its' predecessors, King's mini-series is destined to confuse younger people that don't know the subject very well, particularly if they haven't kept up with the latest research that's missing from the visual TV presentations. As I was taught when I was younger, the older folks should use their wisdom to set the record straight so that uninformed young minds don't get taken advantage of; not be perpetrators of taking advantage of young, impressionable minds. Someone may someday tabulate how much money was invested in the JFK assassination government investigations & reenactments, original TV news coverage & later years special reports, newsprint, books, magazines, TV movies, theatre movies, lectures, speeches, Internet websites, computer games, etc. & from what entities provided the funds in a combined effort to sell the 'LHO did it alone' story to the global public since Day 1, 53 years ago & give us an astronomical figure to marvel at that unquestionably could have been put to a better, more humane use. For those following the 'CIA/NSA controls the USA MSM' evidentiary releases, that enormous figure, whatever it urns out to be, equates to American tax dollars that hard working, honest Americans paid in to the IRS, only to be mentally poisoned by elements of its own Government receiving or distributing the money. This may appear to some that it would have been cheaper in the long run for JFK's enemies to have killed JFK's Presidency through scandals & impeachment, rather than bullets fired from guns, deceptive, one sided TV miniseries & salaried & agenda driven Internet webmasters & staff authors. The global public by & large has not bought the story. I doubt it ever will. I'll search for Stephen King's net worth after the series concludes in two weeks. I'm sure Mr. King's net worth will grow as a result of '11.22.62'. If those that buy his DVD when it goes on sale feel something strike them hard in the rear end as they depart the place of purchase, I suspect that's Mr. King slinging back their change at them (lol). Brad PS: Post episode 7 comments for Tom & all others following this thread: Episode 7 was a real slap in the face for all global persons interested in the continuing JFK murder mystery, Tom. Stephen King's premise in the marketing bombardment that preceded the 1st episode is that time traveler Jake is supposed to be going back in time to stop the JFK assassination in a 'historically accurate' TV mini-series. Mr. King or his script writers have changed so much historical facts as we know them before Jake even gets to the assassination itself that he won't need to change anything...Mr. King already did it for him (lol). What strikes me as sad is what Pat Speer was basically saying many posts back; that JFK researchers & their respective self-motivated missions to find the truth in the quagmire of JFK ambush & associated murders theories & scenarios have been pushed into a corner & partially silenced via MSM blacklisting while folks like Mr. King fatten their wallets with historical BS that MSM gobbles up like addictive candy. To me, it appears a lot like a 'us vs. them' situation where 'them' has all the guns & ammo while the 'us' side is throwing rocks at tanks. Who has the upper hand? The MSM & the entities that control it does. They collectively fight progress in the case by blocking (as best they can) good researchers' educational efforts for the global public by not informing the public what latest developments in the case have been furthered by blocking MSM media exposure of them. Between us, I'll be glad when the series concludes April 4, 2016 & I can file it with the same folder 'Parkland' & 'Killing Kennedy' lives in (the one I barely ever look at), along with the other garbage I scooped up floating on the ocean of mystery known as 'The JFK Assassination'. PS: I wonder how Marina felt watching a portrayal of Lee walking past her bed at Ruth Paine's home carrying a jumbo sized rifle wrapped in brown paper in his hand on assassination morning or Buell Frazier learning that he supposedly drove over to the Paine house to pick Lee up for work (after honking) instead of LHO walking over to Frazier's sister in law's house with a small package roughly 2 feet long that same assassination morning. The tools & blood, sweat & tears the good JFK researchers give the world to educate itself have an even more difficult struggle to fight in the days ahead as more & more people distort what we know about JFK assassination into such a tangled up mess no one will be able to determine up from down, in from out, truth from lies. In my humble opinion, that's what Mr. King has accomplished so far in 11.22.63 Brad

Here's a couple more LHO 'factoids' Stephen King has slipped into his supposedly 'historically accurate' mini-series, Tom: King's got George de Mohrenschildt attending LHO's 24th birthday party & being choked to near death by main character, Jake, near the front entrance of the TSBD in mid October, 1963 at a time when the real G. de M. had moved to Haiti, last seeing the Oswalds in late April, 1963 (when the Oswalds moved to New Orleans). George de M. relocated to Haiti in June, 1963. FBI agent Jim Hosty introduces himself to LHO outside the TSBD front entrance the day LHO lands his job there. The real James Hosty had no idea where LHO worked in Dallas. LHO, fueled by alcohol, slow dances with his mother at his 24th birthday party as pregnant Marina suffers pre-birth pains in a corner of the apartment the Oswalds lived at. This scene was too weird for me to try & guess where King was going with it & what exactly King was insinuating about LHO. The party takes place at the apartment the LHO 'backyard photos' were taken when the real LHO & Marina were living apart; Marina with Ruth Paine, LHO at his rented room in Irving. Jake's assistant friend, Bill, tells Jake that he loves Marina & she says she loves him. (this had to be a surprise to Marina, who is very much alive & knows better). As before, LHO has the MC in his possession & he shows it to Bill on front porch of the Oswald's Neely St. apartment. Jake walks up & sees Bill dry firing the empty weapons & mutters, "second shooter". This is just after LHO's birthday party, one month shy of the assassination of JFK. As before, LHO is cruel to his wife when he discovers one of the eavesdropping 'bugs' Jake & Bill placed in a table lamp. King lays the 'LHO was cruel to his wife' propaganda on heavy & thick in this episode & also #5, with Bill supposedly hearing day after day, night after night arguments & beatings of Marina from the hands of LHO in the apartment below the Oswalds where Bill & Jake are electronically spying on & recording the couple & their visitors. There's more in there....I'll update this list after I watch the last two episodes again this weekend. When the mini-series concludes, I expect Jim DiEugenio, Pat Speer and perhaps a couple other noted JFK researchers to delve into King's snake oil drenched mini-series in depth. I believe it's always good to keep an eye on what flavor 'LHO did it' kool aid the global public is being waterboarded with this year. Best always & thank you for authoring this important thread & allowing me to comment within it. Brad

The Castro brothers have PR agents running all over the Internet. Jeff Morley's site catches a lot of them. I steer clear of all of them & argue with none of them, regardless where on the planet they may seem to exist. For those of us old enough to remember when Castro's Cuba was a parking lot for Soviet nukes aimed at the USA, that alone is all that needs to be known about Castro's regime. Dressing a snake up in a satin ballroom gown doesn't change the fact its still a snake, regardless of how many tails it grows. A snake is programmed to bite regardless of how shiny PR agents polish it up. In my humble opinion (I was one of those in middle school hunkered under our desks during the nuke alerts during the Cuban Missile Crisis), JFK should have listened to his war hawks & rid Cuba of the cancer that had infested it. The only time a person is truly cancer free is when death of the host it thrives on occurs. Those that advocate giving the Cuban snake a second chance are cordially invited to position themselves at ground zero when the 1st nukes strike the ground. Brad

@Roger & John: In keeping a few notes while surfing around the web I've noticed that there is somewhat heavy speculation that the Cuban government may release its Intel files on the JFK assassination, possibly telling us if Cuban or Soviet operatives did indeed offer LHO (or his imposter) a large sum of money (Hoover told LBJ it was $6,500 in their Nov 29 1963 White House phone call) to murder JFK. That, or additional info that may tell us who was impersonating LHO in Mexico City if LHO wasn't there. I'm not holding my breath on any of those anticipations. It seems reasonable to me to expect that Cuba today stands to gain more financially by keeping quiet on what it knows about JFK's murder & not using its Intel data to blackmail USA Intel in exchange for flooding USA tourist & business dollars into Cuba. That makes more business sense to me than calling out the USA (or Soviet Union) for the LHO Mexico City shenanigans. It's long been reported that much of Castro's Intel originated from US backed anti-Castro double agents. It would not surprise me if Castro's Intel is a duplicate of what the USA Intel already had back 1963 (and vice versa). It's been many moons since I put in some time in college. One of my Professors there was absolutely convinced that Hoover & LBJ initially planned on using the alleged $6,500 'LHO payoff' story to feed the public the week following JFK's ambush & murder. He believed the initial early newspaper reports of LHO in the market to buy a car in Dallas & allegedly telling the car salesman that he (LHO) was expecting to come into some serious cash soon were floated by Hoover, LBJ and/or the 1963 CIA for that reason. My professor believed the public would have bought a story like that after seeing LHO passing out 'Hands Off Cuba' leaflets & debating the merits of Marxism & diplomatic trade with Cuba on New Orleans radio earlier in 1963. Who pulled the plug on going with the 'LHO was paid by Cuban or Soviet operatives to murder JFK' story that Hoover discussed with LBJ on the phone along with LHO's impersonators (not discussed by Hoover & LBJ on the phone) pointed back to those responsible for orchestrating & activating the Nov 22, 1963 ambush, reasoned my Professor, many years ago. That cloud of suspicion has hung over Cuba, Khrushchev's Cold War Soviet Union & The CIA for 53 years now. Some think Cuba's government is ready to come clean of what it knows, but I'm not holding my breath. Money talks & Cuba has always been a poor, hungry country following Castro's dictatorship. As an avid crabber, had I been able to visit Cuba with the POTUS, I would have asked to see that portion of the island where sea crabs walk across the land & streets to get to the ocean on the opposite side, asked if the crabs are edible & what was the penalty for scooping up a few of the crabs for supper (lol). Then I would have brought out my crab boiling pot & crab boil seasoning. Brad

One of my college Professors was convinced that the 'Mexico City Charade' concerning LHO is the answer to the JFK assassination, Jim D. & Jim H. When discussing the JFK assassination, I remember him remarking to his class that 'the first lie the government considers telling the public will usually be closer to the truth than the BS they later bombard the public with via their MSM'. For him, Hoover & LBJ's 29 Nov 1963 phone call about the 'story' of LHO receiving $6,500 at the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City to kill JFK is closer to the truth, especially if LHO was not in MC & someone impersonating him was (Jim Hargrove's LHO doppelganger). Recalling the early stories of LHO allegedly in the market to purchase a new car in Dallas & telling the car dealer he was 'coming into some money soon' convinced the good professor that 'story' & the alleged LHO Mexico City Cuban embassy 'payoff' was what was originally intended for public consumption after the shooting that got its plug pulled. He believed both stories were floated in the press by either Hoover or the CIA of 1963; possibly both. That JFK was murdered by an assassin paid by the Cuban government would have made a highly believable story for the global public considering the paranoia about the Cold War & Fidel Castro that existed at the time, reasoned my former Professor. As for DVP, I can't prove it, but I highly suspect he's been repeatedly watching Stephen King's BS portrayal of LHO slow dancing with his mother in King's episode 6 of 11.22.63; possibly kicking himself for not thinking that BS up himself & scoring big bucks as King's TV mini-series consultant. I expect the 'LHO did it' crowd to follow Stephen King's 11.22.63 TV mini-series' example to vividly portray LHO as harshly & mean as they can make him in future media works, books & Internet propaganda. King deals with the research efforts of Jim Hargrove, John Armstrong & other noted JFK researchers by simply ignoring it all & posing LHO handling the alleged murder weapon as often as possible in his TV mini-series. In episode 6, King even had LHO dry firing the weapon with Jake's assistant on the porch of LHO's rental house apartment. Fight the research evidence with bogus TV scenes seems to be the implied Stephen King message. Sheesh! I believe Dan Rather & Walter Cronkite sucked most of the big bucks out of the 'LHO did it' baloney casserole already, but I have to admire DVP & others like him for trying to hit the big time like their predecessors both did peddling the same Federal BS. Scoring big bucks doesn't always pay off; Vincent Bugliosi was forced to leave his 'LHO did it' earnings here on Earth when he passed on. Vince didn't complete 10 years of life after publishing 'Reclaiming History'. Vince left with what he came with: nothing. I often wonder how well Vince is doing in his debate with our Creator somewhere in the Heavens that He doesn't exist. I don't expect Mr. Bugliosi to ever win that debate, anymore than I expect the 'LHO did it' crowd to ever convince the global public, armed with the knowledge of the case provided to us all by dedicated JFK researchers like Jim DiEugenio, John Armstrong, Jim Hargrove and many, many others, that LHO did it. Brad

That's the problem I have with Stephen King's TV mini-series thus far, Jim. King has had 5 episodes for main character, Jake, & his assistant, Bill, to spy on both LHO and Harvey during the 3 year time frame portrayed thus far in the 5 TV mini-series episodes. The TV viewer not familiar with 'Harvey & Lee' won't have any idea what Harvey is all about in King's TV mini-series. How a science fiction mystery writer like Stephen King could resist exploring the mysteries of LHO's exact imitation twin (doppelganger Harvey) in a science fiction mystery mini-series, supposedly based on historical 'facts', boggles my mind. Episode 5 ended with Gen. Edwin A. Walker arriving at Parkland hospital wounded by bullet shrapnel in his arm. Prior to this, King skips over LHO's time in Russia & most of his return to the USA. We miss LHO's debriefing. We miss LHO paying back his State department loan. I've already mentioned earlier a lot of critical issues King skips over. Stephen King very easily could have had his fictional main characters exploring a heck of a lot more than they did thus far. This is what aggravates me about vocal LNer's like Mr. King: it's either their way or the highway. Nothing else exists for them. I simply don't buy that stance from folks with a 'LHO did it' viewpoint, regardless of the JFK productions they offer the public. While I'm here at the moment, I'd like to mention that Stephen King has possession of a visual literary device/vehicle in 11.22.63 that very easily could incorporate much, if not all of the JFK researchers work in the last decade plus. His characters can be placed anywhere that LHO is alleged to have visited & done things just as easily as they can tag along with actors who are the subjects in many JFK research printed & visual media. For example, in the final three episodes, Jake could visit New Orleans, be out on the street when LHO hands out the 'hands off Cuba' leaflets, watch him get into a verbal altercation with anti-Castro Cubans & arrested, be at the radio station with LHO being interviewed, hang out with Allen Dulles, ZR-RIFLE folks, the Joint Chiefs, J. Edgar Hoover, dance the twist with Jackie at the White House, smoke cigars with Fidel Castro, slug down vodka with Nikita Khrushchev, going golfing & sailing with JFK, etc. In addition to murdering two persons from the past (thus far), Jake could be anywhere Stephen King's pen places him. At the conclusion of the final episode, if main character Jake avoids the motorcade's frantic journey to Parkland hospital with the alleged extra stop West of Dealey Plaza, misses the mystery of the discovery of the stretcher that the magic bullet was found on, omits how JFK appeared to the doctors & nurses that did their best to save his life, doesn't include David Lifton & Doug Horne's JFK's body shell game on AF-1 & the additional casket shell game at Bethesda, omits Bill Kelly's AF-1 edited radio broadcasts research & a ton of other JFK researcher's efforts in the last decade, it will only go to strengthen in my mind what I have already surmised about Mr. King & his TV entertainment mini-series, namely, those subjects aren't present because Mr. King doesn't want them visible to the public in his production. Sound familiar? To tantalize my mind, as a mystery writer, I expect Stephen King to visually present those very subjects the global public has questions about, not hide them off camera. In the movie 'Carrie', Sissy Spacek's hand flying upwards out of the ground startled me badly (ask me about spilled drive-in theatre popcorn & soft drink). In 11.22.63, waterboarding me with 'LHO did it' kool aid not only startles me, it makes me choke. Choking is not good entertainment in my book. That in itself is why I find the Education Forum a national treasure. The Internet gives it global treasure status. One can get a glimpse here of what those in positions of censorship wouldn't hesitate to apply blindfolds to or ignore completely (as if it didn't exist). Best always, Jim Brad

You are correct, Jim. JFK researchers know all too well that when they hit a nerve deep enough, the main stream media ignores them as if they are invisible. No interviews, no sitting next to Megyn Kelly or Poppy Harlow on TV. Tell the MSM what it wants to hear & it's Larry Sabato & Gerald Posner, etc. sitting at the interview table. No focus on the new evidence the JFK researchers have to offer. It's an old, familiar formula for those of us who have been around the block for a lot of years. My first impression upon finishing Episode 5 of the 8 part 11.22.63 mini-series was that King is after John Armstrong & his peers because he repeatedly puts LHO with the MC when the new evidence clearly demonstrates the paper trail for the weapon's purchase is bogus, causing an interested reader to wonder how could LHO take possession of a weapon he did not order through the mail? I suppose someone may argue that LHO was given the weapon by someone who ordered it for him, but my thought's don't go in that direction at the moment. The series isn't over yet (3 episodes to go); King left a lot out of Episode 5: his time traveler doesn't watch LHO purchase his alleged money order & mail it when time cards indicate LHO was at work with not enough time to walk or be driven to the Post Office that the money order was supposedly mailed from. King doesn't take us to the Post Office & show us LHO picking up the rifle that was addressed to someone else (A. Hidell). LHO's alleged pistol isn't mentioned. Stephen King has a perfect time travel vehicle to address the questions 'Harvey & Lee' & John Armstrong's (among others) research ask the reader to consider & answer obvious questions, yet King doesn't use it to address those considerations & questions; instead he waterboards us with 'LHO did it' kool aid. That is not surprising if one reads King's letter to the New York Times in 2011. Stephen King believes LHO did it. LHO is depicted photographed by Marina holding the MC rifle & field stripping it at a table in prior episode scenes. How LHO obtained the rifle is not addressed. LHO just has it. That's all King shows us. King avoids showing us LHO firing the MC at Gen. Walker. We hear the shot, but no visual on the shooter. King fails to show us LHO allegedly boarding a bus with the MC hidden in his raincoat, not alarming the bus driver or his passengers, departing the bus & walking to a spot near Gen. Walker's house to bury the weapon in some brush prior to the actual shooting. We don't see LHO allegedly photographing Walker's home prior to the murder attempt. No mention of the two men seen by a neighbor of Walker's scoping out the General's home a couple of days prior to the shooting. King can do better than that & still sell his kool aid, IMHO. He can take us anywhere & everywhere LHO is supposed to have been & done things. Let's see if King takes us to Mexico City, Sylvia Odio's house or meets with Phillips in the remaining episodes. I'm not holding my breath. This may sound strange from a fellow that's been following the case since he was an 11 year-old kid playing marbles at recess in the 5th grade on Nov 22, 1963, but I actually forgot about Harvey & Lee when I made those prior comments in this thread. That's not unusual for me, at 63, I'm lost if I enter a Wal-Mart without a list of items reminding me why I went there in the first place. I've lost track of the mornings I've awoken & my 1st conscious thought was, "Damn, I'm still here!" I'm old & my brain's memory banks tend to get crowded from time to time; my battery has a tendency to run low at times when I really need it fully charged. Generally speaking, I can remember back to just about all the research that's been done on the case in addition to the original news reports, TV coverage & government investigations & reports since the get go. If I mess up & forget something that happened along the way from then until now, I've always got Pat Speer's spectacular website to reference back to. It was not my intention to offend you, Jim. This case has had so many twists & turns to it that it shouldn't be a surprise that important info gets misplaced or lost in the shuffle. I do humbly & sincerely apologize, good Sir, if I gave you the impression that 'Harvey & Lee' was behind some other researcher's work in the JFK saga timeline. I remember following your work when 'Harvey & Lee' first appeared on the Internet & noticing LNer website staff writers mocking & otherwise trying to rip it apart. It left an indelible impression on me that the public really doesn't know who LHO really was & how many of us 'regular guy' type folks might have imposters running around the globe pretending to be us without our knowledge. It's all essential to understanding the events that lead to & followed JFK's mysterious public ambush & death. It all matters. I do expect the number of visitors to rise in this thread (and those of 'Harvey & Lee') as 'newbies' to the JFK quagmire view Stephen King's mini-series on their computers, buy the DVD & come to the thread to fact check King's work. Regardless if they start at the end of the thread and work back to page 1, or start at the beginning & reach this spot, there's critical information in this thread that forces the Government's conclusions about LHO to vaporize into thin air. That's my humble opinion. I do encourage others to go back & take a look again at Harvey & Lee (especially if they skimmed over it before). I promise to do the same & refresh my memory. After the JFK 50 mass 'LHO did it' blitzkrieg, I've lost faith in the MSM when it comes to the JFK assassination & eyeball anything marketed & broadcast from them about the JFK case suspiciously. If this sounds a bit paranoid to some, my defense is the MSM did this to me. It made me this way (lol). Best always, Jim Brad PS to Jim DiEugenio: I have admired you & your work for well over a decade now, Jim. I have a folder where anything that mentions you on the Internet catches the mentions, so I can keep up with your latest efforts & endeavors. I have all your critiques, reviews & books too. No serious JFK student should be missing anything you have educated the global public with & I can't wait for you to tear into Stephen King's mini-series at CTKA. When you are on a roll, I usually learn about 12 new words I didn't know existed each analysis/critique you publish online (I learned more new words in your 'Unsolved History' critiques & reviews than I ever did in college & I had some pretty good professors). I do my best to stick to you like glue, great Sir! I only wish someone would ask me who do I think would make a great Supreme Court Judge, POTUS, deserves a Pulitzer or Nobel peace prize. I'd immediately nominate you each & every opportunity that came my way, Jim. Best wishes always, Sincerely, Brad

The importance of this research cannot be overstated, Jim; it clearly demonstrates that the 'LHO did it' official line kool aid is wrong & a lie. JFK's violent death is still unsolved IMHO. For others like me that are presently monitoring & picking apart Stephen King's TV mini-series, 11.22.63, that are consistently asking themselves how LHO is supposed to be shooting at General Edwin A. Walker with a weapon he didn't order nor receive via the mail, how is LHO later sneaking the same weapon into his work & using it to kill JFK with if the evidence demonstrates he never had it to begin with, the research is a constant safety shelter to seek answers the TV-series does not offer. I was disappointed with Episode 5 of the King series because not only did King not show us LHO firing at Gen. Walker (both primary series characters were dealing with a personal crisis that drew them away from the ambush), but he failed to show us LHO allegedly boarding a city bus and making past the bus driver & passengers on the bus with the weapon hidden in a raincoat. That acrobatic act I really wanted to see! (lol). I bet Ed Sullivan would have wanted to see it too...he might have even headlined an act like that ahead of the Beatles. How potent is this research? It's so strong Stephen King omits all of it from his new mini series 11.22.63. The subject of just how LHO is alleged to taken possession of the MC has not been addressed as of Episode 5. Apparently, monitoring LHO making his alleged rifle purchase money order and leaving work to allegedly mail it was too costly for King to include in his series or it leads the viewer to the conclusion that there is no proof LHO purchased his alleged MC. Ever. How LHO allegedly got his hands on it has not been brought up nor explored in the series. This leaves the viewer to wonder if LHO was born with the rifle? Maybe Marina slipped in in his Easter basket? What's up with the omissions of how LHO obtained his alleged MC, Mr. King? I suspect that when John Armstrong's work on the MC bogus paperwork first began appearing on the Internet the go ahead to put the mini-series into production began as a vehicle to derail that evidence. I can't prove that, but I highly suspect that's the case. Just think, Jim, thanks to all the researchers' efforts to get the truth out to the global public concerning the genealogy of the MC, a small army of actors, TV production people & marketing folks now have some TV work & food on their tables! When the media uses its best tools to fight you, it often means you are having an effect that is causing sleeping problems for some really big, lunker fish. Keep on keeping on, Jim, and the others who contributed to presenting the global public truthful information contained in all the many pages of this very important topic thread... Brad

@ Gene I got a good taste of how communications & tactics used in censorship & cover-up work the night John Lennon was murdered & I was on the air at a top 40 radio station that had just changed formats to all oldies in southern Texas. I can still hear the bells going off repeatedly on the news teletype. In shock, I had barely gotten the words out of my mouth to the station's listeners that John was gone forever. Then... ...the control room's red light on the phone started flashing rapidly. It was the station's program director on the station's 'hot line' ordering me to stay with the oldies format, do not play Beatle records & only mention John's death at the top of the hour news. The 1st words out of his mouth were 'if you value your job & want to continue to work in radio in this town....' He ended the conversation with 'Lennon was a burned out junkie' that people will forget in a day or two'. When I told him the station was swamped with phone calls from upset, crying people, I remember him instructing me to tape all incoming phone calls, but don't put anyone on the air (the phone lines were lit up like a Christmas tree & people were crying & falling apart on the lines in droves) I've never seen a radio station's phone lines light up at that intensity before, not even during contest call-ins. The next morning he edited my voice out of the calls & used the calls on his morning show, pretending people were calling him. He obviously had a problem with The Beatles & John Lennon, specifically. For me, the problem was he was the boss who had the final say. That was a Sunday evening. I started looking for another job the following Monday morning & began working at a competing album rock station within a couple of weeks. In all, my tenure as a radio DJ lasted 3 years. It was pretty much the same at the different stations that employed me. Look the wrong way, say the wrong thing & you're history. They called it being 'blown out' (like a hurricane hit you). I'm usually sympathetic to the lower echelon media folks trying to make a living in a tough, cruel work environment. The higher ups are a different story all together. While I'm here visiting this thread on 11.22.63, Gene, how did you like that slick way Stephen King wormed out of showing us Lee Oswald firing a rifle at General Walker in last week's episode of 11.22.63 (Episode 5)? Both Jake & Bill get swept up in distractions & miss the shooting. In the same episode, main character Jake is asked by his helper friend from Kentucky (Bill) if they see LHO fire a rifle at Gen. Walker, how does that mean he'll also fire at JFK? Jake answers with, "because he's using the same (expletive) rifle with the same (expletive) bullets". I find it difficult to believe that King is unaware that the actual Gen. Walker was shown the bullet alleged to have come from the LHO MC & stated it was NOT the bullet that had almost struck him. Stephen King has had ample time to read up on the matter, yet he repeatedly tells his audience that LHO shot at Gen. Walker with the same rifle used to kill JFK while the evidence does not support this. King does this so much I now believe that's the show's secret agenda; to derail the research of John Armstrong & those researchers working alongside him offering new evidence that LHO did not purchase the carcano attributed to him as the JFK murder weapon. I was also disappointed in Stephen King skipping around the supposedly truthful events like a pogo stick; I wanted to see his portrayal of LHO supposedly boarding a bus with his alleged MC hidden under his raincoat & burying the rifle near Gen. Walker's home after getting off the bus. How exactly LHO pulled that off is a movie or TV scene I have never seen re-enacted: how LHO got past the bus driver & the passengers & occupied a bus seat with either a fully assembled MC (or broken down in parts) is something worth observing IMHO. 11.22.63 does the slinky right past it. In other words, the mini-series repeatedly tells the viewer LHO did this or did that but fails to visually demonstrate those alleged actions. Those familiar with the JFK assassination case background cannot help but ask themselves how is LHO doing all these things alleged of him with no rifle in his possession to do them with. Those following the research of John Armstrong, Jim Hargrove & a host of other noted JFK researchers providing evidence that LHO never ordered the MC must be either getting a kick out of the deceptions in King's TV JFK mini-series or throwing stuff at their computer screens each episode. As of Episode #5, how LHO obtained his alleged MC has not been portrayed in King's mini-series. Main characters Jake & Bill have both been too busy to watch LHO allegedly purchase & mail a money order to purchase the weapon. This suggests to me the power of John Armstrong, Jim Hargrove & other researchers analysis of the alleged rifle purchase document trail; Stephen King omits all of it, leaving a viewer to wonder if LHO simply found the rifle on the street. Perhaps the tooth fairy left it under his pillow. How did LHO get the rifle, Mr. King? What about LHO's alleged pistol; King hasn't mentioned the pistol as of Episode 5, nor has he depicted just how LHO picked up a rifle addressed to someone else at a Dallas Post office. As stated previously, I personally believe the mini-series is being broadcast to derail the research efforts of John Armstrong & others working on the MC & the bogus paperwork trail LHO is alleged to have left behind as evidence he purchased the weapon via the mail. I expect when the series ends Jim DiEugenio & Pat Speer will run this mini-series through their veg-o-matics extracting the snake oil we haven't been exposed to yet. That analysis will be well worth the wait. Best, Brad PS: The radio Program Director I referred to has now passed on. He might be explaining his actions to John Lennon somewhere in the Twilight Zone, who knows?

Using literary devices to sucker punch a highly respected JFK researcher at the website he helps moderates is, in my humble opinion, as counter-productive as it gets. There's a lot of people globally that admire you & your work & are standing behind you, Pat. Brad

Howdy, Jim Those following the Stephen King TV mini-series 11.22.63 should also be keenly focused on what's being presented in this startling research. Obviously, LHO couldn't take a shot at General Walker & then later, JFK with a surplus rifle he didn't order & possess. Someone other than LHO could have. Last weeks' King episode 5 (Jake & his helper Bill mission to catch LHO in the act of firing his alleged MC at Gen. Walker was thwarted by Sadie being attacked & disfigured by her deranged ex & helper Bill was distracted by a woman coming out of church services that resembled his murdered sister). The TV viewer hears the rifle shot but no visual of who fired it. Pretty slick way of worming out of the premise that LHO shot JFK with the same MC (using the same bullets, Jake tells us) that LHO shot & missed Gen Walker with. No allegedly, it's constantly presented as a fact. FWIW, I suspect that Stephen's King's 11.22.63 TV mini-series is an attempt by Dulles' boys to deflect attention away from the research in this thread. The acting & vintage cars make it enticing to watch but unlike King, I am not convinced LHO had anything to do with JFK's ambush & horrific death. Attention deflection has not worked on me, thus far. Perhaps someone who knows Stephen King personally might enlighten the man by making him aware of the research contained in this thread & the related work of such noted researchers John Armstrong, Jim DiEugenio, Len Osanic, Jim Hargrove & others who have broken through the wall of deceit Hoover's FBI constructed the weekend of JFK's murder all those years ago. Clearly, this research invalidates the conclusions of both the WC & HSCA, plus the constant MSM brainwashing that LHO shot at & missed General Walker & later shot at & killed JFK by showing the global public evidence that LHO had never purchased the kill weapon in the first place. No MC rifle = no case against LHO. Well done, folks! I do believe (because of Marina's testimony) that LHO posed with some sort of weapon (in his backyard photos) that was substituted for the MC. LHO could have been holding a pellet/bb gun for all we know. Marina admitted she didn't know one gun from another. Brad

@Greg Burnham Quote: 'If this was "the norm" in your world, I certainly hope that: 1.If you were the perp, you turned yourself in, paid your debt to society, and made amends to those you abused 2.If you were the perp, you've since gotten help so that you have now discontinued such reprehensible behavior 3.If you were not the perp, I hope you came to the defense of the women you witnessed suffering abuse and you reported the crimes to the proper authorities' The crime I witnessed happened to my mother when I was 7 or 8 years old (I'm a bit fuzzy in memory on the precise time it occurred. I remember seeing 'Dobie Gillis' on TV). At the time, I didn't know how to dial a phone. We may not have even had a phone at the time. I'm not sure I had even started school yet. My father came home in a rage one day around noon & beat my pregnant mother so severely she lost the baby she was carrying. I remember trying to pry him away from her by grabbing onto his leg & pulling on it & crying for him to stop hurting her. A neighbor in the apartment came over to help my mother who was covered in blood. I don't remember the police coming. My father is in his early eighties now & said nothing to anyone about what he did. My mother died in the late 1980's & he has since remarried. My father beat my mother several times a year in the mid 1950's-late 1960's, as he did me & my older sister (a heart problem patient who died at 19 in 1970). At that period of time, children were consistently told by parents, educators & clergy that they were expected by the 10 Commandments to honor & obey their parents at all times; their parents had no obligation to honor & obey them. The parents obligation was to feed & clothe their children & provide a basic education of 12 years of school. After that, it's out the door & don't return. They are on their own if they get arrested or impregnate a female. That's what it was like for me. Wife beating, in the house I lived in, morphed into child & young adult abuse. If this didn't happen in your life, ask around to those who were alive at the time. You might be surprised how lucky you were. The father, considered the bread winner back in those days, was considered king of his castle & he ran it as he saw fit. Children were taught to honor & obey their father. What he dished out they ate. I don't ever recall being instructed to contact police if my father abused me or the others in the family my entire school experience from grade 1-grade 12 graduation. If your world differed, I envy you more than I can adequately express in words. I understand there is a question in some minds if men that mimicked what my father did are guilty of murder or not (depending on when the fetus is accepted as a living human being with a soul). There's no question in my mind that it was murder of a defenseless little child. What I saw on the bathroom floor was a little person, not a thing. Obviously, wife beating is a sensitive subject with me & I also get upset at those using it to portray LHO as a wife beater. I believe that started with Ruth Paine (if I am not mistaken). Marina is very much alive & knows the truth of the matter, one way or another. In my experience, wife beating morphed into family abuse. Portraying LHO as a wife beater is a serious injustice if he wasn't. Buell Frazier described him as a man who loved to play with children. My father retired after 20 years of military service & he never spent a minute in jail. My mother finally left him & divorced him after his final beating of her a year before she died. Before she died, she revealed to me things my father did that made me sick to my stomach. My beatings ended when I entered military service at 19 & got away from it. He's never laid a hand on me since. In college family psychology, I learned there is a global epidemic of sordid, disgusting, inhumane & illegal human treatment of other humans that includes incest, human trafficking & psychological torture. A continuing education course might shock you, Greg. The professors will have the data & the statistics. The beatings I remember I called the 'house tour'. I'd have to go to each room & straighten what was knocked over by my little body flying through the air & crashing into things (or I'd get beaten again). it wasn't like Ozzie & Harriet where I lived. I'm now in my early '60's & have had a long time to reflect on that incident. According to my religious teachers, besides me & my older sister, watching my father beat my mother back in 1960-1961 so severely she lost her child was also our Creator & Satan. What transpired, my father will be judged on after he dies, by his Creator. I don't know what the outcome will be, but I seriously doubt he will receive any rewards for what he did. If Lee Oswald beat Marina, he probably already has been judged on it IMHO. Brad

I suspect it's much simpler that that, Pat. It's more along the lines of citizens of the USA are aware that the TV news & entertainment is controlled by the CIA & accept that what they are shown on TV is what the Company wants them to see, not to question it & quietly accept it as truth. To illustrate this apathy, let's create a simple formula we all see at work on TV every day, day after day, 24/7. each time we turn on our TV sets & look around at what is being broadcast on different channels at the same time frame: First, let's notice the multitude of female TV journalists appearing daily & nightly on TV news shows, broadcast after broadcast, presented with tight, hiked up dresses, displaying long, slim & shapely legs, high heeled feet stretched out across our TV screens (let's remind ourselves that low cut blouses & well endowed lady journalists are featured at the channels we visit most & that Walter Cronkite, Dan Rather & a host of other TV former news personalities & their female counterparts did not present TV news in a provocative manner of dress in years gone by). The female ‘news babes/news hotties’ will be the ‘A’ part that begins our formula. Next, we'll add the 'eye candy' (‘A’) to what is called 'TV news reporting' (consisting of a journalist talking into a TV camera's lens while reading from scripts projected to the journalist on a TV monitor positioned off-camera). This is our ‘B’ portion of our formula. Grab the remote & let's do some surfing by flipping from TV news channel to other TV news channels. Notice how many journalists are talking about the same story. (Occasionally, one might catch them at the same word in a identical sentence being read on another channel & be able to finish that sentence while changing channels). Identical newscasts makes up our ‘C’. Next, we'll factor in what we know about Allen Dulles, his Operation Mockingbird creation & the CIA of 1963. Dulles' boys complete our formula as 'D' When added up, what does our formula equal to? When used in 2016, does it indicate TV news is controlled by the CIA? Ask ourselves this: didn't all that Mockingbird stuff die out with the Cold War? [a fast answer can be found by simply googling 'Does The CIA Control the Media'.....don't panic after reading some of the material posted at the links & tear up your Broadcast Journalism degree. Some of the TV news reporters you see on TV on a regular basis are multi-millionaires. Megyn Kelly & Poppy Harlow are two examples of a CIA controlled media TV Journalists that's done quite well for themselves. Google their net worth & compare to what you or your parents have in the bank. Brace yourself for a shock when googling Bill O'Reilly & Anderson Cooper's net worth (both from the 'non-hottie' side of the fence. Getting caught lying about witnessing George de Mohrenschildt's alleged suicide apparently didn't impact O'Reilly in the wallet one bit). A Google search for the net worth of the great grandfather of 'LHO did it' spinmasters (Dan Rather) reveals big Dan rests comfortable at night with 70 million in his bank account. With the exception of Oliver Stone's JFK movie, the big money is in the 'LHO did it' spin, so don't trade off your TV news or acting job for flipping burgers just yet, lol). What looks like Big Brother focusing our attention away from what is being said & down below the tables & chairs may look to others like TV news gone wild & the Agency being blamed for it. What's coming down the line in the future for us, live anchor person chair frolicking & instant replays of it? Don't be surprised if the results of our formula seems to some like the old sex, drugs & rock 'n roll baited hook fished to a public deemed interested in mostly two things in life: getting paid & laid. It’s used constantly in marketing. Who today asks why do all these news shows feature journalists reading basically the same thing at the same time, TV channel after TV channel, often at the same word of identical sentences at any given time in the broadcast on competing channels? How did that happen to non-monopolized USA TV broadcasters? Do all stations employ the same news director & upper management? To many, the answer is Mockingbird. To those that feel that way, the solution is turn off the TV & go to the Internet for news & entertainment. When they do it's...OMG, Mockingbird is there too! Where hasn't that bird flown to? Doesn't it look like there's nowhere to run, nowhere to hide? Ditto for the JFK visual, book & radio talk show productions; what the public sees & hears seems to be what the Company wants them to know in their version of JFK's violent removal from office 50+ years ago if the CIA is truly controlling the media. A good example of this is the JFK 'Unsolved History' series. The series on the JFK assassination raised the bar on broadcasting JFK disinformation imho; it would better work as examples in peddling snake oil (for those interested in learning what is wrong with that series, refer to Ed Forum's own Jim DiEugenio, Pat Speer & several other noted JFK researchers work appearing both online at websites & in their published books). Those that work in the media & desire to 'work in this town' have no choice but to drink the Company 'LHO did it' kool aid if they desire to work, eat & pay their bills & prosper in their professions. I don't hold the actors, screenwriters, technicians & others that create TV movie presentations consciously at fault all the time if their production’s theme is ‘LHO did it’; I can understand that no one wants their hard earned work rejected because that usually leads to unemployment, near starvation & struggling for survival in the cruel, dangerous asphalt jungle known as 'the street'. I call this 'fear of Mockingbird wrath' (aka 'don't rock the boat' & I suspect it keeps a lot of TV & movie folks in line on the official JFK line without having to worry about their house or car being blown apart (lol) if that fear actually exists in the minds of the folks that create TV entertainment. 1984 readers’ fear of offending Big Brother that can lead to unpleasant, sometimes nasty things happening (like tax audits & creepy guys in suits & sunglasses following folks around) is a reality in some global minds. I obviously can't speak for the global public (I don't know why so many people tattoo their bodies to look like the Sunday comics or why fellows go out in public with their mom's earrings on), but it seems to me that the members of the Ed Forum that put their best efforts online or the lurkers that visit to read those efforts are good indicators that continuing, non-sanitized, objective, fair & accurate JFK research is still valued around the globe, regardless of what is broadcast on TV, radio, Internet & printed media. The best of the best JFK researchers will always pull the wool cap back up over the eyes of those who may have fallen victim to spinmaster deceit. To me, that's why the Ed Forum is a national treasure. In 11.22.63 & Stephen King's case, I find the mini-series worth watching, if only to attempt determining what flavor of kool aid Mockingbird operatives appear to be pouring down the global public's throat this year. Allen Dulles died a long time ago; the Agency he helped create has been at their game for a long time & they are still alive & kicking. Today, it has it's own Air Force! For survivors of the JFK 50th onslaught of Mockingbird productions still scraping dung off their TV sets, it might be easy to feel that Mockingbirders enjoy toying with the minds of the global public about JFK's violent & mysterious death if one soaks in enough JFK material. The subject may appear to some so much like a cat toy that they begin to wonder who exactly is toying with their minds & why? Doesn't excessive toying with the global public's mind over the Kennedy assassination lead to this inevitable conclusion: If the public's mind is a cat toy, the toyer is the cat. In other words, if the global public suspects the 1963 CIA orchestrated the death of President Kennedy, doesn't it look now in 2016 that the Company spent more time, effort & money in the assassination's aftermath denying responsibility than it did in actually killing the doomed President & accomplished nothing; fooled very few? Although I can understand boycotting this & other TV productions that present an 'LHO did it' slant without giving equal time to the evidence that 'LHO Didn't Do It', I find this particular mini series acting excellent (I expect several well deserved Emmys & similar awards this year for the mini-series), the vintage cars real eye candy treats & the memories the late 1950's & early 1960's this TV mini-series triggers (some that have nothing at all to do with JFK) well worth spending my time when I'm in a mood to reminisce, recall, reflect & wonder how I managed to survive that insane period in this country's & the world's history. I don't expect the series to solve the mysteries behind JFK's horrific public death. I have no axe to grind with Mr. King & those gifted pros that have created 11.22.63 (well, perhaps one: I spilled my movie popcorn & soft drink all over my high school car’s interior when Carrie’s hand shot up from the ground in his movie, ‘Carrie’. It took me the better part of a week to clean that mess up). According to my religious teachers, I need to patiently wait for & be content to learn the truth when the Big Boss that created & put me here gives me that information once He unplugs me. TV shows don't upset me all that much this late date in my life's journey. At this midway point in the series, do I foresee a time when the Company publicly confesses to Caroline & her children that 1963 Agency operatives murdered her father & her children's grandfather? Nope. Is this mini-series going to insinuate to us that LHO's rich petroleum geologist friend worked for the Russians (or Cubans) & pulled off the JFK assassination behind the Agency's back while it did it's National Security thing in 1963? It might. If it's a true Mockingbird production, the finger of suspicion will always be pointed away from the Agency. Allen Dulles wouldn't have wanted it any other way. Brad

I'd like to expand on my prior comment for the benefit of those (like me) that believe most of what is available to the global public in JFK TV movies & documentaries plus printed media are shiny Operation Mockingbird productions in one way, shape or form & that what I have seen so far in King's TV mini-series raises the possibility that George de Mohrenschildt was LHO's handler & may have enticed/ordered him to murder JFK. The Mexican restaurant scene depicting LHO being introduced either to or by a shadowy CIA operative is, to my knowledge, new visual food for thought for the public to ponder over. Jake's (the main character) mission from his Vietnam veteran diner owner friend is to learn if LHO was ordered by his handler (de Mohrenschildt) to kill JFK & 'take him out if he takes a shot at General Walker'. If I recall correctly, Oliver Stone glossed over LHO's mysterious, wealthy petroleum geologist & professor friend in Stone's movie as just some rich guy that liked hanging out with LHO & Marina for their Russian language knowledge & use. I can't avoid wondering that if 11.22.63 is indeed another 'Mockingbird' production, is the Agency coming clean after all these years or is it protecting some other potential perpetrators by muddying the waters via Stephen King in 2016? Brad

@Tom & Paul: I'm finding the series interesting & entertaining in that it triggers questions I have carried inside my head concerning how exactly life works for all of us that were not answered by my religious teachers early in my life & as a young adult. Traveling back in time & re-existing is similar to the religious teachings that I received that our Creator, following our judgement upon our death, may or may not send the soul of the deceased back to fix whatever commandments were broken by the perpetrator while alive. That's if the soul isn't sent to hell, that is. Supposedly, deja vu moments occur because the erasing the new soul receives upon the 'do it again' process was flawed. Basic questions I had as a child were never answered to my satisfaction; namely, do the parents create a person's soul during or after copulation, is the soul a phenomena of copulation or fertilization or is something else calling the shots on how the soul gets into any particular body? When does it get there anyway; during the development of the fetus, at birth or sometime thereafter? If my 1st memory in life was playing in a small backyard pool filled with water with my little sister, was that the moment my soul entered my little body at the time or was I sleeping inside my head up until that moment I still vividly recall? Do soul come from a soul bank? Who runs the bank? My religious teachers had a consistent answer to all my questions concerning individual & universal existence: namely, when I am dead all things will be revealed to me. Same for all living souls. I heard this so much in my young life that I began to think being dead was a better option than life because I wouldn't have to work so hard learning stuff in school (lol). There is a lot of 'LHO did it' propaganda in the series that those who know & understand how a 'Operation Mockingbird' media works in conjunction & response to payers providing the 'LHO did it' paychecks have come to expect from the people providing the paychecks. Actors & TV production crews have to eat; all have bills to pay. The series fails to remind young viewers that LHO was (like many of us still alive) the product of a time when it was socially acceptable to beat children, wives, races other than Caucasians or people a majority just didn't want in their neighborhoods & territory. I understand laws still exist on the books that prohibit beating a wife after a certain hour. Children didn't call the police on abusive parents back in the day either. If I could have done so, the fetus my father beat & kicked out of my mother's stomach a couple years before 11-22-63 might have resulted in a murder trial & prison for him (now in his 80's & remarried to someone who knows nothing of this event). Some people carry guilt of murder inside them until they die. Not all are sent to prison on Earth. His judgment is yet to come. 11.22.63 has been receiving a lot of online criticism before & during this half-way point in it's shelf life. I urge those interested in the JFK case to stay with the series until it concludes & quietly address those deep, thought provoking questions portions of it stirs up in the mind. I'd like to see more people making the videos available online to those that have no means of viewing & discussing them. Brad

It depends on who one asks, Pat. Some say it's where Robert Groden places the X on Elm Street. This equates to the 1st Elm Street X being placed by Robert Groden in a spot Groden believes the 1st shot occurred. What if Groden is wrong? Over the years, I have seen a couple of spectacular arguments over where visitors & street vendors believe the 1st X SHOULD be while visiting Dealey Plaza. FWIW, some believe the 1st X corresponds with frame 224 of the Z-film, others say it belongs where the HSCA placed the 1st shot (somewhere around Z-190, I seem to recall), the Dale Meyers camp puts it closer to z-160 & the Max Holland camp believes the first X should be on the traffic light or mast that the 6th floor shooter allegedly struck by accident during a time JFK's limo was either not filmed negotiating the tur from Houston St. onto Elm St. (or the film was edited at that point). The John Connally camp believes the 1st X should be just after the limo turned the corner (where JBC stated such from his 1st hospital bed interview Nov 27, 1963. This would put it near the traffic light by the concrete divider). Some use the Towner film as a guide for the first X and others use the Croft photo that corresponds to Z-160/161 (some claim to see a bullet hole in JFK's jacket visible in the photo). Some researchers that believe the Towner film was edited to hide a Dal-Tex silenced shot place the 1st X where the film splice appears in the film. Phil Willis believed his 5th slide was taken at the moment of the 1st shot. His slide corresponds to z-202. Those reviewing old original CBS TV broadcasts will hear & see Dan Rather pointing out that the 1st shot occurred in front of the TSBD front entrance doorway. To further compound the issue, Zapruder's testimony to the WC is vague on where in his film the 1st shot occurred. The WC never asked Marilyn Sitzman about it either (Marilyn could see the shooting better than Zapruder did; she was taller & did not have a movie camera obstructing her face). The few who interviewed Marilyn failed to screen the Zapruder film for her & ask her where the 1st shot occurred. The 6th Floor museum also failed to nail that issue down in its last oral history interview with Marilyn Sitzman shortly before she died. I often refer back to Mrs. Rodgers in the JFK murder saga. She was my former middle school teacher that broke the news to her class that JFK had been shot & killed in Dallas. When we returned to classes the next week, Mrs. Rodgers had us gathered around her desk looking at the newspaper coverage. When the Nov 29, 1963 Life magazine issue was put on sale, she showed us the Zapruder black & white images. She had a problem with them: Dan Rather had been reporting over the assassination weekend that Lee Oswald had 1st shot JFK when his car was directly in front of the TSBD front entrance doorway. On Wednesday, 27 Nov 1963, John Connally gave his first TV hospital interview in which he stated he heard the 1st shot just as the JFK parade car had turned the corner. The two reports appeared to match. What was the problem? On Friday after Connally's interview Life magazine was claiming the 1st shot was fired at JFK just as the President emerged from the Stemmons freeway sign. She showed us the distance difference. Why was Life magazine going against what the Texas Governor & Dan Rather reported? Something smelled fishy to Mrs. Rodgers in Life Magazine's narrative. It would get even worse. Confused? Does all of that sound to you like nobody really knows for sure when the first shot occurred & if it struck JFK or not? How is that possible after 52 years of global research analysis on such a important historical crime packed with on site witnesses? As it stands now, there is no universal acceptance of when & where the 1st shot occurred nor if it hit JFK or missed him. This makes visits to the plaza frustrating for visitors. Like Mark stated, we now know the surveys were fudged for the WC, rendering the data unreliable. I suspect as time goes on & newer, younger interest of the case grows, the temptation for someone to follow in Max Holland's footsteps may again move the location of the 1st shot even further back; maybe as far back as where the JFK parade car 1st entered Dealey Plaza by turning right onto Houston Street from Main Street. I hope someone straightens things out before another 'Lost Bullet' TV documentary confuses even more people than the first one did. It's self evident that moving the location for the first X back aids the alleged 6th floor TSBD shooter while at the same time causes people to question why JFK's guards failed to help him with the alleged additional time & distance they had available to them to take protective action. The fatal X spot on Elm Street also has a cloud hanging over it, Pat. Some of those that believe the Z-film was monkeyed with also have no faith in the z-313 headshot depiction. What did Hoover believe? According to the marking strings on Hoover's FBI Dealey Plaza model on display in the museum & presented in an FBI photo booklet to the WC, the FBI originally placed the fatal headshot across from the North Pergola sidewalk steps and not at Z-313. I find the entire issue quite frustrating. Not all historical questions have acceptable answers. Visit the Alamo & ask tour guides where exactly Davy Crocket was murdered & count the different answers. Or, read the different accounts of the ambush of Bonnie & Clyde & compare the differences of how the slaughter occurred & how the doomed pair's bodies were found & handled. For troubling JFK questions, I usually seek shelter in what I was taught earlier in life; all knowledge will be revealed to us when we pass from this life. This suggests to me that those who passed on did not have to work as hard as I did I high school & in college. Those souls have an advantage I don't have. I suppose I'll have to be patient for answers to the 5 journalism 'W's (who, what, when, where & why) as pertains to President Kennedy's ambush & murder if all of the mortals involved failed at answering the most basic question of all: where on Elm Street did the 1st shot occur?. Is the street X that is there in Dealey Plaza an accurate depiction of it? BM

If what my religious & school educators taught me about death is true ('all things are revealed'), then wherever Gary (Larry) is now he has answers to all the questions & didn't require purchasing a book, magazine, video or lecture ticket. In that respect, until we experience the same thing Gary did, he has an advantage on us all that are interested in the JFK case. If what I was taught turns out to be BS, I suspect Gary (Larry) still has the upper hand. Some people I know are convinced Gary (Larry) was part of the machine that brought down JFK. They're telling me it was more cost effective for an agency to finance a drone & that's why he's gone. I wouldn't know one way or the other. Like everyone else, I have a shelf life. In time, I'll get my answers. I'm patient. I've got no other choice. RIP Gary (Larry) & sincere condolences to the ones he left behind to carry on without him. BM

I'm inclined to believe that Oswald's work records are bogus. If he was being run by an intel organization, such an organization could easily leave a false work history trail to be found after Lee Oswald was murdered & removed from the game IMHO. Why an Intel organization? Who else but Intel could create false work attendance & payroll records? Certainly not a legit business (like Coke or Sears, for example) could have a person working somewhere other than that company. Some have postulated that one of Oswald's co-workers could have obtained the money order for Lee Oswald & mailed it after the fact with or without Oswald's knowledge. Something along the lines of: (co-worker speaking): "Hey Lee, I'm heading up to the P.O. to buy some money orders. Want me to pick you up one?" Something along those lines. The good Samaritan could have picked up TWO money orders; bringing one back to lee Oswald at work & mailing the other off for a rifle without Lee's knowledge or consent. Who knows? Maybe Oswald was told to order the rifle as part of a sting operation? Jim, it's great to see you back! I have all your books, CTKA analysis & review articles, YouTube & Black Ops interviews. Nothing VB or DVP has ever published has ever impressed me. I think J.E. Hoover described the evidence best to LBJ. Hoover said the evidence 'wasn't very good'. Those that season it, polish it or apply lipstick to it do not take away what Hoover said about it; they just cause me to buy longer waders when stepping in the snake oil. After the fact creations are a part of life in the military. One of my commanders in Germany had people scattered all over the country; some in secret missions. Army regulations dictated each person had to qualify on their individual assigned weapons (usually M-16, .45 cal pistol) plus run a physical training test annually. This created a logistics & cost nightmare. A commander not in compliance could be removed. The solution: phony records created & maintained by the company's Training NCO. One advantage VB & others who have passed on that were interested or personally connected to the JFK case have in common over us mortals is that they all know exactly what happened & who was involved. According to my religious upbringing, we all will know the full truth once we punch out of this earthly time clock for good. Best wishes & with the highest respect to Jim, Brad

For a fellow whose apparent mission in life is to warn the global public about US false flags & black ops, Fetzer has been completely quiet about the biker shootout in Waco, TX a month ago. This journalist has stayed on the story continuously: http://www.agingrebel.com/13067 Click on the 'All Posts" button to follow his coverage from Day 1. Many are calling this event a false flag/black op on the Internet. There are many similarities between it & the JFK assassination (attack videos confiscated, unreleased autopsy reports & ballistics evidence, conflicting witness accounts vs. law enforcement accounts, silence from the TX Attorney General, TX Governor & Justice Department about the mass arrests of 190+ persons present at or near the crime scene, etc.). For Fetzer to ignore this event is strange indeed. Perhaps Dawn nailed it down. It would explain why Fetzer attacked almost everyone involved in research of the JFK assassination except himself. BM

Hi, Greg Thanks for the kind comments & I hope all is well in your life. I'm researching the life of Bill Decker presently. He goes back to the days of Bonnie & Clyde & worked for the then Dallas County sheriff Smoot Schmid. Schmid organized the original posse that went after Bonnie & Clyde (it later teamed up with the then Texas Governor Miriam 'Ma' Ferguson & Texas prisons Chief Lee Simmons hiring of former Texas Ranger Frank Hamer to locate & kill Bonnie & Clyde). The combined posse was successful in locating & executing Bonnie & Clyde due primarily to information J. Edgar Hoover's Bureau of Information was leaking to the posse via his Dallas & Louisiana agents (FBI Dallas Field Office File #26-4114, available online). Decker was flown by Schmid to northwest Louisiana to attend the autopsy of Bonnie & Clyde & was photographed standing behind their mutilated bodies following their brutal ambush & murders. Years later as Sheriff of Dallas County, Bill Decker hired Deputy Sheriff Eugene Boone, the finder of the 'Oswald rifle' in the TSBD (who was a Decker loyalist). You'll notice in the 6th Floor museum's interview of Boone posted on YouTube that Boone is not asked if HIS car was parked in the area behind the stockade fence. Why? Probably to play down that Decker's officers initially were inspecting a suspected crime scene that consisted of where Decker's officers & staff parked their cars during work hours. That's about as far as I am on Bill Decker at the moment. Within the past 10 years, US TV documentaries on J. Edgar Hoover have disclosed that Hoover had a file on Henry Wade, indicating Hoover mistrusted Wade. I believe the issue of similar worded Sheriff's Departments witness statements originated from Sylvia Meagher in her 1967 book, 'Accessories After The Fact'. I remember reading some witnesses Sheriff department statements in the WC volumes while I was in high school. The school's library had a new set of all the volumes. Some of the commenters when I was on site in the early '70's gave me the impression they knew some of those witnesses in some capacity back when Dallas was a much smaller southern town than the appearance it gives today. What was cool about visiting Dealey Plaza in the early 1970's was the realization that I was standing in the heart of the Dallas law enforcement community. The layout resembled a small family. The County jail, Records building & Red Court House were all a part of a legal system that routinely interacted with each other in the process of arresting people, conducting trials, incarcerations & prisoner releases along with the parking tickets & other infractions that bring in operation funds from law violators. At the time I was there, some of those employees that worked for those operations would walk over & let me & my friends know that they thought Decker was up to his ears in the ambush that occurred there. They scoffed at the idea that big time shadowy Federal operatives could have set up an ambush right under Bill Decker's nose without his prior approval & consent. That perspective presented to me on site in Dealey Plaza in the early 1970's & repeated here has been long lost when the public focus of the ambush shifted to the CIA after the Frank Church Committee in the 1970's. An interesting related side note: Law enforcement in Waco, Texas stands to rake in an enormous amount of revenue from the recent biker shootout at a restaurant bar there. Do the math: 170+ confiscated & impounded motorcycles, cars & trucks that will probably be auctioned off (if the owner cannot pay the impoundment fee or the vehicles are held as evidence), numerous weapons & body armor gear confiscated, attorney's & bail bondsmen fees, court costs, court fines, probation officers fees, community service & counseling costs & fees. Insurance rates jacked up or dropped. Some licenses revoked to boot. The bikers involved in that shootout will pay dearly for it from their wallets. Had they not openly intruded into law enforcement territory they might have been able to assassinate each other privately without the hassles they now face for being stupid. What I was told by Dallas locals was basically that an ambush of JFK in Bill Decker's territory (right outside his 'front yard') could not have occurred for free. Everything associated with law enforcement everywhere in the world involves a cost to someone. Nothing associated with law enforcement is ever free & no one enters a lawman's territory without being noticed; particularly when a horrific crime is enacted against a president & Texas Governor within yards of where the Head Honcho (Bill Decker) runs his operation. The opposite side of this perspective is to look at the JFK ambush site being Bill Decker set up as a patsy. The original patsy too (before the focus shifted to Oswald). This is an area I've never seen any JFK researcher venture into. BM edited to update info & correct typos