Joe Bauer

HA!!!

Exactly.

Thank you. In Pete's photo the Mauser stamp is so clear and obvious.

Thank you PM.

In the Mark Lane "Two Men In Dallas" documentary we see and hear Sheriff Roger Craig describe Constable Seymour Weitzman's actions and words regards identifying the 6th floor found rifle while it was being held up by the strap by Captain Will Fritz. First we know Craig was right there next to Weitzman at that time. No debate there. Craig tells us that Weitzman first blurted out "it looks like a Mauser, when Weitzman saw the rifle from at least a few feet away. Craig then states something Weitzman left out in the video above where Weitzman confesses his "to my sorrow" sins in saying he "thought" the rifle was a Mauser. And that is Weitzman walking up closer and examining the rifle "from just inches away"... and then "reaffirming" his first blurted out but farther away ID. "It is a Mauser." Indicating a "twice repeated" Mauser ID by Weitzman. One from feet away and one just inches away. Craig ( himself just inches away) even claims you could see " 7.65 Mauser" stamped right on the barrel. Can anyone here provide a close up picture of a Mauser showing that ID stamp on the barrel?

The Luis Elizondo project seems to be an initial step in preparing the public for official disclosure.

Absolutely agree. Caro's credibility regards chronicling "the full truth" of LBJ's corruption is glaringly diminished by leaving these LBJ involved darkest deeds facts, incidents and personal connections out of his bio's imo. It's disturbingly cringing to see the generally accepted bio's of LBJ depicting him as something less than a totally corrupt man. Look...we all know LBJ was corrupt to the deepest core and highest degree. LBJ "Great Society" promoting/corruption downplaying historical textbooks are an obscene shame and educational injustice to our future generations and entire society. Time to grow up and leave the childishly naive "Wizard Of Oz" false reality world and face and accept the full corrupt truth about LBJ.

Perfect!

Not being a reader of Robert Caro's LBJ books I must ask; How does he cover the almost unbelievable, ultimate Texas style corruption action of LBJ in getting his protege Mac Wallace off practically scot-free ( with an LBJ controlled presiding Judge's intervention ) from a "murder with malice" jury arrived murder conviction? That corrupt power play by LBJ alone deserves a place in the annals of "greatest acts of criminal trial injustice in American History." Obviously, LBJ had to exercise his full power of Texas influence corruption to prevent Mac Wallace from being thrown into prison for years. I think Phil Nelson and Doug Caddy have adequately explained why. Murder of John Douglas Kinser[edit] On October 22, 1951, in Austin, John Douglas Kinser, a 33-year-old sophomore student at the University of Texas, was shot to death in the clubhouse of the Pitch and Putt Golf Course that he operated.[9] Immediately after the first shot, one golfer outside the clubhouse observed a man inside holding a revolver.[9] He heard two or three additional shots after leaving to attract the attention of three other golfers on the course.[9] The three golfers on the course observed the man running from the clubhouse and getting into his car, and one of them noted the car's make and license plate number.[9] The men ran to the clubhouse where they found Kinser's body, then telephoned the police who radioed the car's description and license information to state and city patrol cars.[9] Three patrolmen with the Texas Highway Patrol spotted then stopped the car nine miles from Austin on the Burnet Highway.[9] According to one of the patrolmen, the driver perfectly fit the description provided by the golfers and his shirt was torn and bloodied.[9] The suspect and witness were taken to the headquarters of the Austin Police Department for questioning.[9] Wallace was identified as the man leaving the scene with a snubnosed pistol, and three bullet shells were found near Kinser's body.[7] He was arrested by highway patrolmen on the Burnet Highway shortly after the shooting.[7] Detectives revealed no motive in the killing as Wallace refused to answer their questions.[7] He was charged the following day with murder and the Justice of the peace set bail at $30,000.[7] Two days after the killing, the district attorney accused the local sheriff of "obstructing the investigation" stating that he had refused to transport Wallace to the Texas Department of Public Safety for identification testing.[10] According to the sheriff, Wallace protested the move and his defense attorney, Polk Shelton, had asked that Wallace not be moved.[10] Wallace was represented at the trial by John Cofer, longtime lawyer to Lyndon Johnson, who had also represented LBJ during his contested election to the United States Senate in 1948 that was tainted by allegations of voter fraud.[11] During the trial, FBI special agent Joseph L. Schott stated that he had known Wallace for 12 years and in 1946 had given Wallace a German-made 6.35 mm Schmeisser automatic pistol that he (Schott) had acquired while serving in the United States Army in Germany.[12] A firearms expert for the Department of Public Safety testified that the slugs and shells from the murder scene could have been fired from the Schmeisser.[12] A chemist/toxicology expert, also with the Department of Public Safety, said that a paraffin test on Wallace's hands tested positive for gunshot residue and that blood on his shirt matched blood found at the club house at the golf course.[12] Testimony was completed on February 25, 1952, and Judge Charles O' Betts recessed court in order to finalize the jury instructions prior to closing arguments.[13] The prosecution did not attempt to establish a motive for the shooting, nor did it produce an eyewitness to it or the murder weapon.[13] The following day, the prosecution and defense completed their closing arguments and the jury was charged that afternoon.[14][nb 1] After deliberating into the evening, the jury was sequestered within the courthouse dormitory.[14] After listening to 29.5 hours of testimony from 23 different witnesses, on February 27 the jury returned its verdict finding Wallace guilty of "murder with malice".[15] After a short recess, O' Betts sentenced Wallace to a five-year sentence that was suspended.[11][15] Questioned as to why the prosecution did not attempt to provide a motive, defense attorney Polk Shelton stated that it was "probably because they couldn't."[15] Kinser's sister-in-law later stated that Kinser was killed because he had been having an affair with Wallace's wife.[3] Other sources say that both Kinser and Wallace had been having simultaneous affairs with Josefa Johnson, sister of Lyndon Baines Johnson.[16]

Not to disparage or disrespect Buell Frazier but his testimonial and public appearance speaking efforts were to some people sometimes kind of hard to watch and follow at times. He would usually take his time to begin speaking, then slowly get to his point. Often pausing in mid-sentence as if to re-remember things. His vocabulary was relatively limited and I think he was aware of and perhaps self-conscious about this. Some made fun of Frazier as a slow eyed, slow talking, backwoods hick. Yet, to me, Frazier's down home country boy upbringing and manner of speaking made me sense that he was inherently more honest that slick talking city folk. No way Frazier made up the story of Fritz gettin all red faced and raising his arm and hand to slap some fear into him regarding his denial of knowin anything about no part of Oswald's supposed crimes. I am certain Frazier wasn't the kind to make up a story like that and risk being challenged on it for years to come.

So, one must believe that Dallas County Sheriff Roger Craig is lying in the video below at the 12 minute mark when he describes constable Seymour Weitzman saying "it looks like a Mauser" upon seeing the rifle being held up by it's carrying strap by Captain Will Fritz...and then after walking up to get a six inch away look Craig quotes Weitzman as saying "it is a Mauser." Craig got that close to the rifle himself and states that "stamped right on the barrel was 7.65 Mauser." But this story by Craig was all a lie? Made up for some personal gain reasons such as notoriety seeking? Yet, there is no doubt that Craig "was" right there when Weitzman looked at the rifle and made the statements he made. Weitzman himself said in public interviews he did say exactly what Craig said he said. Like a thousand other testimonies by people in some way connected to the overall story that contradict the WC summary, we are just left with two choices. Believe Weitzman or Craig...or not believe. Regards Roger Craig in this Two Men In Dallas Documentary and his recollection of the Seymour Weitzman found rifle I.D. story ... I choose to believe Craig. WATCH LATER ADD TO QUEUE CLASSICS: Two Men in Dallas 71K views1 year ago Vince Palamara With Mark Lane and Roger Craig (1974

What was LULAC?

The most glamorous couple on Earth. No one could take their eyes off them.

I think it's not illogical to consider several power groups working very loosely together ( extremely compartmentalized and with just a handful of full knowledge coordinators ) in pulling off the "Big Event" with one or two at the creation, planning, implementation and over-all controlling head of this corruption fed Hydra. In World War II we and the rest of the free world were in a fight for our lives. In a life and death struggle like that even a Democratic, constitution, equal civil rights foundation based and respecting society will do whatever it takes to keep from losing that struggle. The military basically takes over the government. Great restrictions on personal liberties, rights, free speech, interring tens of thousands of lawful Japanese/American citizens against their will, you name it, our military government felt we had to do this. Creation of military intelligence agencies and giving them incredible unlimited monies and power besides our established FBI. Turning to American criminal organizations, no matter how law breaking and damaging they were to our society previously and using their influence to help the war effort, was just another compromise we know our military control leaders took in this fighting for our lives struggle. It's my belief however, that this particular compromise deal with the organized crime devil was never responsibly let go of once the war was over. They are a seductive bunch. That's their game. Money, sex, satisfying amoral cravings and indulgences. Getting rid of your enemies without any dirt showing on your own hands, etc. Incredibly, 20 years later even some of our cold war agency heroes like Wild Bill Harvey were still more enamored and respective of and buddy buddy with and more loyal to organized crime figures like "Johnny Roselli" than they were of our own president! Same with cutting back the hugely increased budgets and power of military intelligence agencies ( foreign and domestic operations ) that too often didn't operate under the same constitutional framework restraints governing system we expect in a non-war time government. I'm just trying to set up in a simple way what I think may have been the origins of this corrupt power group Hydra that may have been behind the JFK event. The American Mafia ( one of the lower level Hydra heads ) could have been used in many ways to cover any loose ends after the Big Event happened. Without knowing anything about the real big hit and what higher positioned Hydra heads planned and carried it out. Big oil could have been another Hydra head. And they also had connections to the American Mafia. Muchison's Del Charro a favored hangout for some of them ( as well as ole J. Edgar and his dressed alike companion Clyde Tolson ) from time to time no? A reasonable guess is that these richest men on Earth occasionally needed the dirty work services of these thugs themselves from time to time. The Mafia exploded in power and influence right after WWII. Their services were just too seductive to let go of afterwards. Like in the movie the Godfather when Al Pacino's Michael Corleone says to his Diane Keaton portrayed wife Kay ... "now whose being naive Kay" in response to her gut sickened saying ..."senators and Presidents don't have people killed." We all know now that between 1945 and 1963 the Mafia had the goods on thousands of judges and police, as well as governors, senators, even presidents. But still, there was always a higher pay grade force above their level. A bigger and more powerful Hydra head. Who were the other more powerful hydra heads? Maybe not the very top ones but Big Oil ( richest men on Earth at that time) and their hugely funded extreme right wing organizations that spewed out JFK hate and fear propaganda nation wide. Maybe another was wealthy segregationists? All wanting JFK out of the picture. LBJ and J.Edgar Hoover filled in the power vacuum once that task was complete. Just my common sense guess about a possible group effort in the JFK affair. And again, using the Mafia to tie up loose ends after the big event.

Thanks for mentioning Dorothy Kilgallen. One of our most famous highest society celebrities in American culture for 20 years, rubbed out because of her digging into the JFK assassination and Jack Ruby. And not one film about her amazing celebrity life and shockingly suspicious murder to end it...ever? Heck, if Kilgallen had never gotten involved in the JFK case, I guarantee you someone would have made an A list film about her amazing, achieving, interesting and glamourous high society life already. Her dark power murder however, actually put the kiss of death as well on bringing her courageous truth and justice seeking life and suspicious end to the big screen. That power didn't want any more scrutiny and have successfully made sure her story was essentially buried ( except for a few poorly received and poorly publicized books ) and thus ... forgotten.

Paul, I trust my accuracy in my numbers and time frames for the hyper-inflation. I just went back and changed a couple of numbers in my first post. What it takes regards take home pay income to live without financial stress. $3,000 to $3,500. California was affordable up until the mid-1980's. Then real estate inflation went nuts and along with it the rents. They've never gone down...always up. Homes that are $3,500 a month rent now, were renting for $500 to $600 back then. Gas $6.60 a gallon? 1 and 1/2 years ago it was 3.25 a gallon. Kirk Galloway knows these numbers. He's a long time California resident. I think those under this unprecedented economic stress here don't allow themselves to think about or face this reality too much. You don't want to think past each month as it comes. Too depressing. There is also always a fear/dread of some major expense illness or tragedy hitting that will force you to face having to move to some less expensive but high crime area...or another state, which in itself could be a $10,000 to $15,000 expense. Which most people don't have.

A view from California. Many fast food restaurants now pay $15 an hour to start here. Whoopie! Sure sounds good...when you go back 30 years. But now? $2,400 a month gross pay. $15 X 160 hours. Actual take home pay breakdown reality: Federal taxes taken out usually 12 to 15%. = $248 to $275. State taxes taken out 3% to 10%. = $100 to $150? Social Security deduction rate 6.2%. = $124. SDI ... ? Approximately $500+ total. $1,800 left a month to live on. Rent: Average rent costs here for even a "one bedroom apartment" is now $1,600 to $2,400 if you are not on section 8 housing. Single homes rent from $2,400 to $4,000 a month. And these rent rates are in all our large and even smaller sized cities in Calif. now Utilities...$100 to $200 minimum. Gas $6.60 for one gallon. Average person driving mileage is 800 to 1,000 miles a month. At 22 MPG that is $250 to $300 a month. Sales tax rate now 12%. Food prices have exploded 30+% in last 1 and 1/2 years. Basic car expenses besides gas...insurance, registration, upkeep ? Clothing and other miscellaneous expenses? TV, telephone, internet costs? Health care insurance costs through the roof with deductibles. No dental coverage available. Average monthly take home pay ( not the gross monthly pay ) needed to meet these basic needs now? At least $3,500 +. Do the math. $3,500+ versus $1800 actual take home pay? Work pay versus the cost of living is a massive California public stress crisis now. Half of all those that used to describe their life styles and expenses as "middle class" here 30 to 40 years ago, are now describing themselves as in the "lower middle" class. Millions of Californians on minimum wage or small SS or pensions barely hanging on with thousands breaking down monthly when one expense crisis hits and they end up living out of their cars or renting garages and couches. I believe the greatest stress on over half of Californians by far now is economic. The huge discrepancy between the actual cost of living versus actual full time work take home pay. We have become a state of true haves and have nots. The divide is so stark now it's numbing. Way more people living in apartment houses versus homes. Especially families with children. Yet, millions of Californians are also living in million dollar homes just miles away. Millions of 1st generation immigrants in Calif. aren't complaining. It's better than what they ran away from in Mexico and the rest of Central America. But millions of 2nd generation immigrants and multi-generational Californians have seen their daily standard of living drop to levels they never imagined. Middle class life in California up to the 1980's was affordable. Now? Young people by the millions here refuse to get married and have kids because they can't afford to. They can't even afford to take care of themselves for the basic needs such as rent. Well over half of the jobs in California are fast food, restaurant, gas station, store clerks, hotel housekeeping, service drivers, custodial, security guard, rest home, and other minimum wage manual labor jobs. Professional jobs ...20%?

Whew. Lots to read and contemplate regards this comprehensive Ruth and Michael Paine summary. Just letting it all soak in. Ruth expressed extreme upsetness about "Lee's lies" in his draft letter to the Soviet Embassy which she found left openly on a desk or table for her to easily find and read. Her ability to discern lies versus truth in Lee's Soviet Embassy letter draft reveals she knew a lot more about Lee's provocative political activities than one would imagine beyond just her stated innocently pure humanitarian interest reasons to help Marina and her children, imo. She obviously was watching and keeping track of Lee and his activities much more than one would expect?

If only Raffensperger had said the following: The January 6th committee yesterday played the actual tape of Trump trying to coerce Raffensperger into finding him 11,701 more votes to make Trump the winner of the 2020 presidential election Georgia vote. It was a long call and Trump was highly animated and high pressure incessant in his repeated requests to Raffensperger to "do the right thing." At one point I heard ( and anyone else listening to this tape also heard ) Trump telling Raffensperger what a "great risk" was involved here with Raffensperger's actions regarding finding these extra 13,701 votes for him. He kept repeating this "risk warning" to Raffensperger to clearly emphasize it's context from his ( Trump's ) perspective. This risk warning from Trump to Raffensperger sounded just like Mafia Godfather speak that we have seen in thousands of movies of that genre. Classic example: "You know my friend, bad things can happen to people who don't do what I ask...capiche?" I swear I felt like I was listening to a scripted dialogue piece right out of "The Godfather" film the more Trump kept repeating his risk warning to Raffensperger regards his actions in response to Trump "asking" him to find him 11,701 extra votes. "All you have to do...is find me 11,701 votes...capiche?" Imagine the pressure Trump's call ( from the President of the United States Of America) put on Raffensperger...especially when Trump brought up and kept repeating for emphasis his "risk" warning to Raffensperger. I wish Raffensperger had spontaneously stated to the committee yesterday that he took Trump's "great risk" warning to be an intimidating direct threat of some retribution toward him personally ( and I think most us average folks would have as well) if he (Raffensperger ) didn't do what Trump was "asking" of him regards finding those 11,701 Trump favoring votes. Raffensperger stating such a claim against Trump ( specifically because of Trump's ominous mafia speak sounding "risk" warning to him ) would have capped the probability of a Georgia Grand Jury indictment against Trump for felony election tampering imo.

I caught that too Steve. Clearly sounds like the FBI strongly expected violence that day.

I often purposely spell that word ( GAD ) that way. Just a thing of mine about using this spelling version over the other more common one in public audience conversation text out of respect for those who may be offended by seeing the more common word used so loosely.

My Gad...crazy sounding as ever!

Today, I watched and listened to Ruth Paine's testimony in "The Trial Of Lee Harvey Oswald" video I linked earlier, more than I had in the past. I had always kind of passed over Vincent Bugliosi's questioning of Ruth, figuring his goal was simply to portray her as a sympathetic well intentioned figure innocently caught up in the larger picture of Oswald's guilt. However, by listening to her answers to Bugliosi's soft ball questions I realized with more understanding the first origins and true depth of Ruth's repugnant feelings toward Lee Harvey Oswald. Since Ruth first met the Oswald's in February 1963, she described observing what she described as Oswald's overbearing and selfish controlling behavior towards Marina. RP chronicles so many aspects of Lee's treatment of Marina that were bad in her mind, she obviously couldn't stand him beginning as far back as their first meeting. Bugliosi asked RP when her friendship with Marina and "Lee" Oswald first began and Ruth made a point of correcting him in stating her friendship was with Marina...not Lee. She detailed such Lee abuses as refusing Marina to learn English. Of Lee aggressively ordering Marina to return to the Soviet Union when Ruth said Marina desperately wanted to stay here in America. We know from Jeanne DeMohernschildt about Lee berating Marina for smoking and even putting a cigarette she was smoking out by pushing it into her shoulder. It appears obvious Ruth Paine thought Lee was a horrible husband ( even abusive ) to Marina and hated him from as far back as February 1963. I think Ruth was hoping at some point to help free Marina from this abusive, no count loser Lee. At the 3 minute mark in the Oswald Trial video Ruth Paine recollected an incident involving her and Lee Oswald that really raised my eye brow in thinking it surely changed Ruth's feelings toward Lee even more negatively. From not just a bad and at times abusive husband to something more nefarious. During Ruth's August, 1963 visit to New Orleans to bring Marina and her baby ( living with Lee in a run down cockroach infested apartment ) back with her to Irving, Texas, she claimed Lee told her during this visit about his pro-Castro leaflet political activities and how he was physically confronted by some hot-headed anti-Castro Cubans and then taken to the N.O. police station afterwards. Lee told Ruth he spent the night in jail because of this incident. One can imagine Ruth reacting to Lee's pro-Castro political activities and arrest sharing with appalled shock and even more concerned angst than she already felt toward him. Did Ruth now view Lee Oswald as not just a poor providing wife abuser, but a Castro/commie activist to boot? What is Lee doing passing out pro-Castro leaflets when he is unemployed and should be making every effort to find work and provide for his wife and baby's most basic needs which he wasn't? What other things Ruth Paine testified Lee Oswald did to inspire her further dislike of him after he came to visit Marina later in her home during October and November was just frosting on the already baked Lee Oswald hating cake. As much as RP was doing for Marina and her child during that time, which I still feel was admirable, she was viscerally anti-Lee Oswald. When Ruth Paine described the neighborly cup of coffee meeting where the Texas Schoolbook Depository building job idea first came up, she went right to work trying to get Lee a job there. Ruth claimed Lee seemed happy to have this potential job opportunity. I always wondered why Lee was ( according to Ruth ) so willing to take this lowest minimum wage TXSBD job that paid what ... $1.25 an hour? He seemed more intelligent and more qualified for other higher paying jobs. After all, he was a traffic control operator in the Marines. Lot of responsibility in that position. You had to be fairly intelligent to even qualify for such a job in the military. I just don't see Russian speaking, book and classical music loving Lee being happy with simple lowest pay book sorting work and alongside the likes of good and humble but uneducated Buell Frazier, Harold Norman, Junior Jarman, etc. Being desperate for any work at all at that time however, I guess book sorter beat dishwasher and restroom cleaning custodial jobs? I think Ruth's discovery of Lee's N.O. political activities back in August of 1963 ( along with his weird agenda and again frivolous money misusing trip to Mexico City ) had a much more important effect on Ruth ( and her husband later ) regards their over-all view of Lee Oswald. Making them both suspicious of Lee and who he really was on top of their intense dislike of him. Did Ruth report her suspicion feeling knowledge of Lee's extremist political activities including his Mexico City trip to the FBI at some point before 11,22,1963? I also wonder if by some chance, Marina may have shared with Ruth at least one or two of her deepest darkest secrets about Lee, including his admitting to taking a pot shot at General Walker, his attempt to take a gun and see Nixon speak, his idea to hijack a plane to Cuba with Marina's assistance, etc.? Or did Marina keep all this secret from Ruth Paine?

Trump's self created righteous crusader image and personal credibility is crumbling more and more with each nationally televised January 6th committee hearing. Today's hearing was devastating for Trump and his last remaining loyal to the end sycophants - Guiliani, Eastman, Meadows, Kevin McCarthy, Peter Navarro, et al. I predict that soon enough, even these last Captain Bligh/Queeg defending dolts will finally jump off the MAGA BOUNTY to fend for themselves in the socially ostracizing world ahead of them. And Trump himself will continue to bark his crazy loser avoiding delusion until his last days to anyone who will listen...even if this is just a small group of addled crazies that hang out in crowded subway stations.

Seems I am in a small, privileged circle here on the forum with my actual watching Ruby shoot Oswald on live national TV. My guess is that maybe 5% of us here actually did? I was 12. I had been glued to this old black and white grainy picture TV my brother and I had at the end of our shared bedroom twin beds since Friday afternoon. When I first saw Oswald come into view at the beginning of the hallway walk toward the basement press crowd I instantly felt an uneasiness. To me , even at my young age, Oswald seemed so wide open! Only one escort on each side and even they seemed barely even with Oswald. I think I expected Oswald to have front protection as well as side protection. Then, soon enough "BOOM!" At that exact same time my body involuntarily sprung off my bed like a wound up spring. And I also unthinkingly shouted "NO WAY" "NO WAY" " NO WAY" over and over. My young but innocently pure gut instincts instantly told me this scene was so improbable it was contrived in a suspicious way. Watching Jack Ruby shoot Oswald in the Dallas PD basement crawling with security that morning is still the single most personally compelling and suspicion birthing event in my entire life long JFK truth seeking quest.