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AGREE 100%. And if one of Ruby's closest night club drop-in DPD buddies for years William "Blackie" Harrison ( who was actually in the press crowd supposedly for close up surveillance purposes ) had just once looked around or in back of himself instead of staring straight at Oswald as Oswald was being walked down the corridor he would have seen Ruby. Ruby was mere feet or even inches behind Harrison in those seconds before Ruby shot to the front of the press line. And didn't Harrison himself go to the outer back door entrance area to use the cigar/cigarette dispensing machine to get a pack of his trademark stogies sometime before returning to the press crowd in the basement loading ramp area? Somebody had to unlock the exit/entrance doors down there for Ruby ... yes?

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Do either of you have any opinion of Caro's treatment of Billie Sol Estes and his business involvements with LBJ? Has Caro's ever given any public comment regards his ignoring, downplaying and even dismissing of Estes and Estes's most shocking charges against LBJ? A question I have pondered and wondered what Caro's answer to it would be is this: Was LBJ ever psychologically capable of ordering or sanctioning actual murders? Murders of individuals who could have seriously derailed or even ruined his political career and maybe even personal life? Did LBJ's well known ruthlessness exceed the bounds Caro ascribed to him?

Trump's efforts in everything the last three years are 90% failures. Dozens and dozens. Seriously, the biggest "loser" to ever occupy the White House. We all see this. But Trump and his followers can't admit this reality.

MC. Notice also how long it took to get an ambulance down into the basement for Oswald? Oswald's massive internal bleeding body had been carried back down the corridor and into an adjoining room. Then it was carried back into and down that corridor again and finally lifted into the ambulance. Oswald looked totally lifeless by that point. How many minutes did it take from the second Oswald was shot to the point of his Parkland admittance and beginning surgery? You can't stop that kind of internal bleeding without immediate surgery and blood infusions. Oswald didn't have a chance. Ruby's ability to get his gun within inches of Oswald's midsection ( even when Oswald had 2 guards by his side ) is the key here.

David, after viewing 1,000 times the video clip of Ruby shooting Oswald the last 59 years, I have also come to a point of considering the actual physical feat of his doing so as quite remarkable in several ways. It was skillfully timing, location and action choreographed. First, Ruby had to get past the street guards and down the ramp and into the press crowd in a hurry and at just the right time before Oswald was brought out towards it. Then, once there, he had to keep kind of stealthily hidden behind others in the press crowd for at least a couple or more minutes before and up to Oswald's hallway perp walk. Ruby knew he could be instantly recognized by Dallas PD officers like Patrick Dean and others if he pushed himself to the front of the press line too early. He then had to coordinate his front of the line push not only within a two or three second window of Oswald's closeness, but also to a perfect front of the press line location position to be able to reach Oswald unimpeded with just a quick thrust and a few bounding steps. Ruby then had to skillfully and strongly bound out to get his body and gun holding arm and hand to a "can't miss" close up position ( within inches ) of Oswald's gut and then get his shot off before he and his arm and hand were grabbed by officers. Successfully doing so was, again, a fairly impressive physical feat. The front of the press line position Ruby garnered was just too perfect in giving him unfettered 3 step access to a frontal wide open Oswald imo. An Oswald that was walked right to him. And was it just fatefully fortuitous for Ruby that Oswald was so frontally wide open for his thrust and shot? Or, purposely so? Presenting Oswald with just two guards at his side instead of an extra two in front and two more in back of him as he was brought to just feet next to this poorly watched and checked press crowd was the final break Ruby needed to get to Oswald's wide open gut and blast away. I often wondered what the Oswald jail transfer plan write off people like Curry and Fritz said to themselves when the absolute worst case Oswald security failure scenario played out right in front of them and right inside their own building? And this after JFK's worst case death causing security failure in their city just two days before?

The Lee Harvey Oswald file papers James Hosty was ordered to "get rid of" might not have been destroyed so easily and quickly.

I think it would be extremely interesting and thought provoking to read our member's shared speculations regarding such a scenario. I think the feds may have taken over Oswald's security after such a near miss incident. I also think the Dallas FBI would have freaked out. They didn't destroy Oswald's file just to clear space in their storage cabinets. LBJ, J. Edgar Hoover and others might have had heart attacks.

America is a nation and society so diverse in every way...economic, culture, ethnicity, ideologically, politically, socially, gender and age, geographically and in a daily changing way that it is impossible to discuss any inclusive national policy direction with any rational and logical framework without realizing we are living in an almost out-of-control, runaway train cultural situation. From one state to another, one county and city to another and even one neighborhood to another, we have so much diversity (and disparity) it's just...well...crazy! Here in California for instance, we have enclaves of super wealthy, living just miles from the extreme opposite lowest end spectrum of poverty, homelessness and crime. Miles away from populations that speak different languages, eat different foods, have totally different cultural and moral beliefs. Travel the country and you will see living environments and cultural ways as different from each other as night and day. Illegal immigration of up to 50 million in the last 20 to 30 years has exasperated this diversity even more. Seems like 1/3rd have settled here in California. Up and down California it is more Mexico and Central American in language and culture now than the typical traditional American English language culture we experienced up until the 1990's and still see in most of the upper latitude parts of our country. Hispanics are the majority ethnic population in California now. Caucasions are only 38% of the population. In just one or two generations, the ethnic culture, language and value change dynamic in many parts of the U.S. ( California is just crazy this way ) has changed more than at any other time in the last 140 years. It is going to take multiple massive hard facts studies in the diversity reality of this country to even begin to address our most pressing needs in national policy and priority decision making. America is like a huge ship with 100 engines operating at different speeds and 100 different groups of passengers all wanting to steer the rudder in different directions.

I imagine Hubert Clark making a bustling beeline to the nearest outdoor exit the second he left the table and once outside letting out a clenched fist primal scream release after that gut wrenching constant interrupting interview by that Dr. Mad Scientist looking guy. There were a few times it looked like Clark was ready to bop his mike on the manic over-talking interviewer's head or grab him by the throat and through gritted teeth growl..."don't you ever SHUT UP!" If I was there and had an over-ripe tomato I really think I would have zinged the interviewer in the head with it. Several times Clark's head reared back and with his eyes looking as if they were popping out just glared at this jabbering fool of an interviewer. Like he couldn't believe how he got trapped into this meet up with this incessant babbling, wild white haired loon! A few questions for Clark however. When he said he and his casket removal team met the Andrews Air Base arriving ambulance with JFK's casket inside at the main administrative entrance to Bethesda did he think he and his team would physically carry JFK's casket all the way to the back and the morgue entrance there? Or were they supposed to place the casket in the pickup they were riding in to drive it to the morgue entrance? Maybe the ambulance driver didn't know this plan, and figured he would drive the casket to the morgue entrance himself? Maybe the ambulance driver sped away as fast as he did trying to avoid what he thought might be press people following him? Hence, the lights out thing as well? Clark said the burial casket weighed 1400 pounds? My Gad! That was about the weight of a Volkswagon beetle! Back injury weight. Clark says a black car delivered a grey ( silver) colored ( shipping ) casket to the morgue loading dock well before the delivery of the Dallas originating bronze one. Is he simply repeating Dennis David's account of this without seeing it for himself? Lastly, did the embalming of JFK's body after the autopsy take place in the Bethesda morgue itself? Or, was JFK's body driven to the embalmer's funeral home for this procedure? Never could understand that aspect of the JFK body work.

Listened to some of Trump's Wyoming rally rantings on Fox News yesterday. The entire rally visual set up seems so over-dressed red, white and blue flag and poster waving, MAGA hat wearing and over yelling hyped-up audience artificial to me. It reminded me of those hugely staged evangelical TV preacher shows shown on national TV years ago back in the 1960s. Jimmy Swaggert, Oral Roberts and other teary eyed, raised face praying animated representatives of the Christian word, working their audiences into body shaking, arm thrusting, "hallelujah" shrieking frenzies. With loud and dramatic organ musical accompaniment to further work up their almost VOODOO crazed audience. "HEAL...HEAL...HEEAAAL THIS PITIFUL SINNER" head grabbing and throwing back theatrics! And throughout this Chevy Chase comedy show would be constantly shown TV screen pleadings for "blessed money donations" with addresses to send these to. Trump rallies seem like clones of those crazy, phony, exaggerated God fearing religious service shows in the 60's. Where most of the most famous preachers were exposed as hugely corrupted phonies. Roberts, Swaggert, Jim Baker, etc. Way over acted audience theatrics. Cheering, flag waving, laughing at Trump's bad jokes. Trump is STILL claiming the 2018 election was rigged. He flat out called the jailed January 6th Capital building insurrectionists ..."political prisoners!" His entire angry spiel was attacking the Dems or anyone else opposed to his will, especially Liz Cheney and Nancy Pelosi and/or bragging about his great achievements and genius. I swear, if 50,000 American Board certified psychologists had their way...Trump would detained in a psych ward as a dangerous demagogue who has convinced half the country into believing and embracing his own false reality delusions! Trump rallies are as crazy and phony looking and sounding as those "Halleluja" shouting and head grabbing "HEAL- HEAL" Evangelical TV preacher ones back in the 1960's.

I think Ron's nutshell summary above seems common sense logical to me. During his run for the presidency in 1992 Ross Perot repeatedly stated that the main problem with our federal government executive and congressional branches was "the out-of-control influence of the massive number of corporate lobbyists upon them." An influence that superceded that of average working class and poorer Americans and always benefitted the "majority" owners of these corporations. Basically the 1 to 5%. The 1 to 5% who own 85% of the wealth of this country with the other 95% owning the last 15%, with the majority of that left over wealth owned by the top 25% of the 95%. Perot said his number 1 priority if elected would be to break the hold of these corporate lobbyists. You will remember Ross Perot dropped out of the race just weeks before the election due to all the threats made to harm his family which he believed and took that seriously. I also believe that our non-elected, hugely limited oversight, secret agencies have grown in power, influence and control beyond anything average Americans could even fathom with trillions of black budget dollars sucked up since JFK's time. JFK's worst unfettered secrecy fear realized? Coupled with Eisenhour's MIC biggest threat to our democracy warning which has also been realized to it's worst possible degree. A bonded corporate, military, industrial, congressional and secret intel agency complex controlled and mostly owned by that 1 to 5% and that Bill Clinton once categorized on a late night national TV talk show as ..." a secret government." One that prevented him and other presidents from knowing anything substantial regards greatest secret of all time. The ET one. The gate keeper holders and controllers of this greatest secret have probably held and used the importance of this secret as a controlling hammer over all other leadership groups in our country, elected and not. As far back as JFK times this was a huge hidden elephant in the room. Doug Caddy even claims E. Howard Hunt personally told him JFK was killed over it. And when Helms told Nixon where to shove it by disobeying a direct order from Nixon to release information to his people about the JFK assassination (that Nixon was hoping to use as leverage in his desperate attempt to control the ever growing Watergate criminal investigation) you saw how powerful the CIA had become even as early as 1974. Telling Presidents where to go. Ignoring direct orders from them? 48 years and trillions of dollars later can anyone prove that this unelected power hasn't grown exponentially? Just my common man gut feeling take.

Running and hiding from their long time NRA cash receiving histories.

Vince, I watch and enjoy all of your videos. This one is just another of your relaxed, easy going, down to Earth, dry humor funny yet thought provoking and general take informing presentations. New book promoting, yes. I hope you sell 1 million copies. There is a humble "everyman" style quality to your videos. Like sitting with a friendly next door neighbor on their patio sharing a beer? Your average Joe demeanor is refreshing to me and contrast the fact that you are a nationally and even internationally known, highly regarded multi-book published icon in the JFK research community the last 20 years. One might expect someone of your stature to have at least a tinge of haughtiness when speaking. Even your video filming location in this one is a beautiful outdoor "fresh air" scene that is relaxing to view. Where the heck is that locale? Beautiful trees. Nice long swaths of green grass just below you although it looks like the person mowing this just took a beer lunch break or his riding mower broke down as the mowing is only half finished! You mentioned your age as 55. No, I refuse to believe that. Your hair has no grey! You have the smooth facial skin of a teenager? I was totally grey haired, wrinkle creased and straggly whisker grisled at 50! Seriously, you aren't aging like the rest of us! Is there something in the water there where you live? Or the beer and piroshky? And lastly Vince, do you realize you are a true "doppleganger" of the famous A-List actor Jonah Hill? The resemblance is amazing! I also didn't know that you were a famous band guitar player in your younger days. The "Silent Choir?" See pic. You are an amazing person of incredible talents, will, drive and justice seeking courage Mr. Palamara. You have added so much to this JFK truth and justice seeking mission world of ours. Thank you. Thank you

Some excellent points.

Funny, in the old western movies all you saw was smoke coming out from the guns being fired. Lots of it. The old TV show "Gunsmoke" showed this every time when there was a gunfight between some drunk rabble-rousing cowhand and Matt Dillon. In modern day shoot em up movies like Bond, Bourne, Taken you never see gun smoke.

Yes, that is a puff of smoke alright.

The smoke from behind the fence. Reported by too many within seconds after the shooting to be viably discounted. Surely smoke did arise from there and it wasn't Camel non-filter cigarette exhale. The shots from the TXSBD were right at the window. Yet, no one ever reported seeing or even smelling smoke, even the three employees just ten feet under that window. Larry's picket fence smoke device diversion idea makes sense. I'm no expert, but what rifle shooting I have ever seen didn't create hardly any visible smoke from the barrel. Now, those civil and revolutionary war rifle shots sure did however.

Firecracker mostly but a few also stated motorcycle engine backfire. Some ID'd the first shot as a "report" ... i.e. rifle gunshot. One could have really different takes depending on where they were located in that odd structural and landscape layout echo chamber called Dealey Plaza. Roger Craig and his fellow sheriff's were around the corner on Main street, not even in Dealey Plaza, and yet heard the shots clearly.

Did you recount this from a book Gil? A question. When the FBI interrogated Joseph Milteer after JFK's murder, did they play back his JFK death predictions made to Sommerset in the Miami hotel tape? Among many questions I would have asked Milteer was how his predictive description of JFK's murder was exactly the way JFK was killed? My guess is Milteer would have sat there completely silent. The Miami PD cancelled a JFK motorcade due to that Milteer tape. Now there was a responsible and uncorrupted police force regards JFK's security. The FBI knew of the Milteer threat...did they ever share this with the Dallas PD? If so, it wasn't enough for the Dallas PD or the SS to cancel the Dallas motorcade? Clint Hill repeated time and time again, in response to constant questions from his talk appearance audiences why the higher floor windows along the Dallas motorcade route weren't checked while JFK was passing beneath them, that his agency simply didn't have the manpower to check every upper floor open windows along the route. Knowing this security manpower deficiency, and right after the Miami trip and Milteer's threat tape, they nor any other JFK security tasked police agency didn't think of placing even just one or two men on both sides of each block of the parade route street during the high rise part of it? Men with binoculars and walkie talkies who would focus every second on these high rise open windows while JFK was being driven underneath? If they had just one or two of these binocular equipped high rise open window monitoring men in Dealey Plaza they for sure would have seen what non-binocular equipped Arnold Rowland and Carolyn Walthers saw in those upper floor TXSBD windows just before or even during JFK'S one to two minute drive by underneath. A man or men holding high power rifles just inside these. Since JFK's murder took place because of this one main security lapse...you'd think Hill would at least add a greatest regret caveat in his SS non-open window monitoring defense excuse that it was the SS's biggest mistake in their worst case scenario failed protection of our president?

Ruth was completely taken by the young, attractive, intelligent and Russian speaking Marina. Ruth couldn't stand Lee. Her tolerance of Lee was a price to pay to be close to Marina. Ruth had been attracted to the Russian people, language and a Quaker moral cause of helping to bring the world peace threatening Russian/ American cold war tensions to a better place in some personal way for years before meeting Marina. She even traveled there and maintained pen pal type correspondence with some she had met...correct? In Marina I believe Ruth found not just a much more personal close-to-home way to engage not only her interest in things Russian and Russian/American cold war tensions, but a young mother who really was in basic needs stress and whom she could help significantly . Jumping in all the way, she soon proposed the pregnant Marina and her child Junie actually come back to live with her in Irving. I recall an interview of RP years after 1963, describing visiting Marina in New Orleans in the summer of 1963 ( I believe on her way back from a weeks long summer visit to her CIA employed sister in Virginia? ) where she found the living conditions in the apartment Marina and Lee were residing in disgusting and appalling. According to Ruth, there were cockroaches everywhere. For Ruth and her own two children to stay the night in this apartment, she had to get a can of roach killer and spray a circle on the floor before she created a bed situation for them there. It was after this night there amidst the cockroaches that Ruth made her pitch to have Marina come back to Irving to live right in her own home with her, at least through the birth of her child. That's a rare and deep commitment of help seldom offered to anyone in need. However, I sense this must have been a very fulfilling and even exciting new cause for Ruth. Rescuing this beautiful, interesting and needy young pregnant mother and child from not just a cockroach infested living situation but also from her poorly providing, controlling and boorish cad of a husband. Also, Ruth even admitted, she was lonely by herself with her own two children and being estranged from Michael Paine. Bringing Marina and baby June right into her own home satisfied Ruth's own personal need and desire for companionship with a nifty bonus of stimulating intellectual Russian language and cultural sharing to boot. I also suspect Marina's sparkling blue-eyed youthful feminine beauty along with a kind of mysterious air of intrigue in her curious Russian upbringing and quiet but intelligent reservedness only added to Ruth's attraction to her ... hence it was the perfect match for both her and Marina in Ruth's mind. If Marina looked like Ruth Buzzi and exhibited any weird behavior at all I don't think Ruth would have ever jumped in so enthusiastically as she did with this deepest personal commitment of shared home help. Ruth also stated she spent her own monies for things like extra groceries, etc. Ruth apparently developed deep personal feelings for Marina during their time together. Ruth stated she was hurt that Marina cut her off 100% soon after the agencies absconded with her and redirected Marina into a new life totally removed from Ruth. Ruth probably had at least a little normal human sympathy for Lee now and then. She couldn't stand him personally and seemed to view him as a pathetic person. As did her husband Michael, who even described him with arrogant intellectual disdain. Ruth knew Lee was going to lose Marina eventually. Lee just didn't have the ability to provide anything but low income environs for Marina and his children and it would be just a matter of time before another man of means would go after such a stunning young beauty as Marina was. Marina was a catch. Too much so for Lee. I think Ruth just wanted Lee to go away. If Ruth and Michael Paine were not involved in intelligence intrigue regards Oswald, I believe in the least, they didn't care what happened to Lee regards his arrest circumstances. I think they may have even not felt any sorrow for him when he was brutally and painfully killed by Jack Ruby. Maybe thinking Marina was now free from the heavy yoke of Lee's oppressive and poorly providing control?

We all know that in every media way possible the Trump enabling wealthy will be mounting a massively funded campaign of deflection and downplaying the January 6th coup attempt. That's how things work in this country. Every right wing paid radio talk show host ( 50 million listeners every day ) will be given a point by point diversion and downplaying brainwashing game plan to aggressively promote throughout the hearings.

Finally...proof!

That close up photo, although quite grainy, does look like there is no indentation/scrunched up surrounding metal damage on the frame. Especially when you place a photo of the actual damage right next to it. I didn't realize how the damage area was just an inch or so to the right directly above the rearview mirror. Even with the visors flipped all the way up, you can see the area in question via your photo. With this photographic "proof" can everyone "NOW ADMIT" that the windshield indentation came during the Dealey Plaza shooting? And with this fact proven, can we now study trajectory angles based on the hole itself? As I have said, that hole is not one facing straight back or left towards JFK's head indicating that it did not come from a fragment of a bullet going into and then out of JFK's skull. It looks like what ever made that circular hole came in from an angle more from the back right versus the back left one of the 6th floor window.

Agree with almost all your points Chris. I cannot articulate my observations and thoughts about the American world we live in as well as you and so many others here on the forum do. Hence, I read other's postulations about such things much more than I post. Still, when I am impassioned enough by others posting here, I will toss out some reactive blips myself now and then despite my literary skill shortcomings. And I believe in my own rational thinking honesty, common man concern moral guide integrity and life experience wisdom just enough to trust that what I do share here is generally worthy to a fair degree. The thing I have come to realize most about America and the lives of at least half its citizens since my birth in 1951 is how our collective common bond societal health, welfare and democratic, constitutional based government structure respect and appreciation is dependent upon our individual and family economic status. The more Americans are under daily, monthly and yearly financial stress the more everything else in their lives ( and our society's cohesive well being ) tends to fall apart. I haven't seen so many people in this country under this kind of stress anything close to what we are seeing now. Rents, food, gas, health care, health insurance costs and on and on ... are so inflated many are simply doing without these things. Over half of this country's entire population will never be able to buy a home. Help their kids any more than themselves. Go on a simple vacation more than 100 miles from their residences. And anything and everything else we are told is the American good life. Not to say everyone should have more than the basic necessities but even these needs are not being met ...for 10's of millions of Americans...every day...for years! We have let our middle class and lower middle class go since the 1970's imo. Yet, at the same time, we see our top 5% increase their 85% ownership of everything in this country to ever higher and growing levels. And using 40% to 50% of our budget monies on our military for the last 70 years is also part of our great national middle class economic stress. IMO...when a nation allows their huge majority middle class to drop to lower middle class and even poorer standard of living levels, with never ending 24/7 financial neglect and stress ( for years ) they are begging for this old adage " a nation divided ( economically ) will not stand." Massive unrest is ever more possible. And half of our stressed are perversely constantly barraged with right wing radio and TV ( Fox News ) hate reporting, 24/7 nation wide. Further dividing us. Turning us against each other. Democrats and liberals are baby killing commie, queer and unpatriotic criminals or even demons. How will this dangerous and ever increasing national stress ever start to resolve and reverse? That's a question I certainly don't have an answer to.