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BIH? Please explain.
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So many questions about HA. Where does one begin? Did he really tell someone he bedded Marina Oswald?
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Right on DA!
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I just accessed the link you provided WN. Beautiful, kind, soothing music. Perfect for the Christian/Christmas spirit. Even though I don't know one word of the language, it's the music that conveys the feeling.
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A day to consider every human heart that is hurting, and in some way ( thought, prayer, action, even just kind words ) giving what you can of such to hopefully touch those so burdened with a Christ like warmth that other human beings truly care about them and their personal struggles and plights. Selflessly, without judgment, blame and bias. To feel and be alone on this day is a crying shame.
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Just finished listening to the entire interview. Well spoken. Well paced. Very thought provoking. Much more interesting and even quite gripping than I had imagined. The power struggle between the Joint Chiefs and JFK ( especially between LeMay and JFK ) definitely does seem as epic and high stakes as the one depicted in the classic Presidential over-throw plot film "Seven Days In May."
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Agree. Regards Billy Sol Estes... do you really think that someone who is running a scheme that is defrauding the Federal government out of 10's of millions of dollars a year ( 70 million in today's dollars! ) , and a fellow Texan and whose base of operation is in Texas, is not going to be well known to Mr. Texas himself (LBJ?)
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The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I don't know how any woman could ever be seduced by someone with a fleshy hanging jowls face, ears like an elephant, weak chin, balding head, mean, beady and heavy, puffy lidded eyes, all sitting on top of a 6 ft. 4 in. hulking forward pot-bellied and big baggy pants backside body. And coming on with a corny good-ole-boy Texas drawl? "Y'all lookin' mighty pretty there missy." What was the appeal! Compared to JFK, LBJ looked like...well what can one say? -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
I asked Vogelsinger what Kennedy was like. “He was the most exciting person in the world to be around. I worked closely with him a lot. He was so charismatic. He was funny as he could be and so smart it was mind-boggling really, curious about people and things. He was a very special person,” Vogelsinger said. About Jackie Kennedy, Vogelsinger said she was not around her a lot but her impression was that she was funny, sweet, gorgeous and smart. Vogelsinger later read about the Warren Commission conclusions and told me the only thing she’s sure of is that Lyndon Johnson did not have anything to do with the assassination. “I do not know what happen, I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened,” she added. It was difficult for her to follow subsequent investigations because “it was just too painful.” Vogelsinger's description of JFK reflects true adoration. She doesn't mention LBJ at all. I don't put much weight into her take that LBJ had nothing to do with the JFKA. It seems she never did any research at all into the event and all the evidence, testimony and documentation brought out. “I do not know what happen, I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened,” She says she "heard about" the Warren Commission and it's conclusion. Not that she gave it any study at all. And she repeats her feeling so much pain about the killing of JFK and later RFK, she avoided discussing it as much as possible. I would be curious regards her studied reasoning that LBJ had nothing to do with the event and/or later choosing the members of the commission and making sure his great buddy Hoover directed the evidential aspects of it. My guess is she just said that about LBJ going on just a gut feeling. -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
There are just too many stories recounted first and second hand by even LBJ loyalists that describe LBJ doing and saying outrageously inappropriate things. Many gross and crude. Like LBJ leaving bathroom doors wide open during meetings and defecating or urinating loud enough for his staff or meeting attendees to hear or even smell this? Also accounts of him making bragging comments about his private part's size and his prowess in utilizing it with manly abandon? I remember listening to one of his taped White House conversations to a tailor in another city ( New York? ) made while he was sitting right inside the Oval Office. He good-ole-boy drawlingly talked about the tailor making damn sure his pants crotch area was cut long enough to avoid any pulling tightness on his "bung hole." We know "for a fact" that LBJ did drink a lot. And not beer. LBJ kept a lot of aides and security on edge because of his unpredictability in his words and actions especially while drinking. LBJ's long time mistress Madeline Brown recounted that Lyndon used foul language all the time. One could reasonably conclude that LBJ was knocking back some stiff ones on his 3 to 4 hour flight back to DC from Dallas. To steady his own nerves and anxiety and to be able to show the national and world press he was in calm and responsible control upon landing? LBJ apologists use downplaying terms like "salty" and good-ole-boy "humorous' when describing LBJ's more outrageous words and actions that many others would term "shockingly gross and crude" and even somewhat "sadistic" in their offensive intent and context. Include "bullying" in that latter lexicon of LBJisms. Time we quit coloring LBJ with a false reality wash of socially appropriate respectability that was just not him. The man was for sure much more crass and crude not just in his private personal life interactions but even at times in his professional political ones versus any other president in our entire history. You tell them Som-Bit**** if they don't agree to what I'm a tellin em I'm a gonna rub their faces in Texas Steer manure s***! LBJ to Senator Richard Russell ... Dick, you're damn well gonna serve on the Warren Commission whether you like it or not! And I don't wanna hear another GD word about it!" And freely using the word "nigg***" in discussing racial policy matters. You tell em Lyndon...YEEEE HAWWW! -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Thanks for posting the actual letter. -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
We've all heard the tape-recorded call between LBJ and Hoover where LBJ runs by Hoover the names of the players he wants on the Warren Commission. Hoover responds favorably to each one. He specifically praises Jerry Ford as a good man. One assumes LBJ got his list without Hoover's input. And I don't believe LBJ just sat by his lonesome and came up with this list on his own. Someone presented LBJ with the list he read off to Hoover. Who was this person or group? Whoever they were, they picked Dulles, McCloy, Ford and all the rest. Whoever came up with this list is in the top hierarchy of control and influence in the entire investigation creation scene. These are your real power brokers. If there is a well-researched and well documented book or two that tells us who these Commission creators were please share this. They were telling LBJ who they wanted on the Commission. All they needed was for LBJ to rubber stamp their choices. -
Isn't there any testimony from "anyone" besides Billie Sol Estes and LBJ's personal pilot Jim Cross and that can add verification to this story of LBJ actually flying out to meet Estes in person more than once? LBJ biographer Laureate Robert Caro can't think of any reason to "even mention Billie Sol Estes" in his entire anthology biography of LBJ? LBJ'S Agricultural secretary Orville Freeman is knee deep in the Henry Marshall investigation of Estes? Freeman knew LBJ was connected to Estes. Please.
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The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Ah, finally we have one highly active forum member's acceptance of LBJ being at least "capable of murder morally." Would this include LBJ -if not ordering a murder himself - simply being aware of this kind of crime being planned and possibly giving just an okaying nod or not saying anything to stop it? I'll repeat again, of course there is no evidence of LBJ being directly involved in the JFKA. The highest power leaders don't allow themselves to be involved in any way when it comes to this kind of crime. They are a dozen rungs removed. Same with Dulles. Woolsey said it was the Russians? You talk about evidence and the lack of it? Is there anything close to credible evidence to support this Woolsey statement you attribute to him? Your Woolsey quote suggest our government knew the Russians did JFK? You really think we wouldn't have not done something hugely retaliatory to them in response to them taking out our sitting president, and so publicly and brutally? The ultimate act of war? You have any guesses as to what we may have done in that regards? Outside of a military attack? If we did something economically it would have damaged them to such degrees, the entire world would have seen and known about it. There was no retaliatory action taken at all beyond our normal year in and year out covert intrigue battles. If Castro did it or one of his hit teams and again, we knew this "for certain," we would have annihilated him. So, regards evidence...the lack of it showing anyone outside of our own society doing JFK is even more negligible than the evidence we have that leans toward someone domestically doing it. Did the Russians gain anything from JFK's removal? If so, please enlighten us as to what and how? Same with Castro. Johnson and the massive power groups behind him ( military, intelligence, Hoover, segregationists, right wing super wealth , pre-Castro Cuban expats and Castro hating American organized crime) were way more anti-Russia and anti-Castro than JFK. And these same groups behind LBJ shared a deeply felt common bond...they were all "extremely" JFK hating. All of them. To the degree that whoever took out JFK did them a favor! "The mood in the Murchison family household was extremely joyous. Like the champaign and caviar flowed...for a week." "I was the only one who felt any grief for John Kennedy." 36 yearlong employed Virginia Murchison family seamstress and companion "May Newman" recounting the celebration of JFK's murder in that household during that time. The men who had "so much to lose" if Kennedy stayed in power after November, 1964 were LBJ, Hoover and even Dulles. And conversely these same three power players had "so much to gain" by JFK's and his brother RFK's instant removal before then. JFK and RFK were their main threat enemies above and beyond anyone else. And there is "a ton" of evidence that validates that specific threat loss and threat removal gain situation proposition. -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Fetzer? Okay. But you can't dismiss Evelyn Lincoln so easily. The woman was around JFK just feet away in his daily doings for years. Imagine what she heard firsthand being in that incredibly unique close up position all that time? I don't think she wrote a book. Yet, she should have. -
The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Richard M. Nixon tells Pat Buchanon that LBJ was "an animal." 3:25 NOW PLAYING Nixon with no expletives deleted Highlights of a 1982 CNN Crossfire interview with former President Richard Nixon, including uncensored comments during a ... -
Just viewed this History Channel documentary. Dear God! Every member on this forum should view this. Doug Caddy's appearance and sharings in this is fascinating. What Doug Caddy stated about his conversation with E. Howard Hunt regards the real reason JFK was taken out is paradigm shift astounding. Doug Caddy's credibility in telling the truth is impeccable.
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The exoneration of Lyndon Johnson?
Joe Bauer replied to Roger Odisio's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
Curious what other members here make of the following sardonically stated quote by President Richard Millhouse Nixon? "You know that Lyndon...he never likes to be number two." Filters 0:48 NOW PLAYING NIXON jokes: LBJ never likes being "Number Two." Interestingly, Nixon also said he wanted to be President, but he was not "willing to kill" to get there.... -
The National Enquirer on "long-buried video"
Joe Bauer replied to Ron Ecker's topic in JFK Assassination Debate
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I always liked songs that we so effecting of my being ( in a good way ) that I would find myself just popping out with some of the lyrical lines spontaneously without even thinking of doing so in the middle of doing something otherwise mundane. "At the Copa...Copa Cabana...Music and passion were always the fashion...at the Copa ... la de la." "We've only just begun...to live..." "White Lace and promises...a kiss for luck and we're on our way..." "Trailers for sale or rent...rooms to let 50 cents...no phone, no pool no pets...I ain't got no cigarettes..." My most memorable Lennon song lyric was "All we are saying is...give peace a chance." And "Imagine all the people...living for today..." No drugs needed for that kind of inspiration.
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Did the drugs being mentioned here make for more beautiful music from the writers, singers and musicians performing them? On the wide scale of pop music from the 60's on I personally don't think so. Although I was a Motown music lover more than any other genre. In fact it appears to me that most of the great song writers back then had to be extremely clear headed to consistently tap into the full capacity of their creative musical faculties. Surely many believe the music of so many late 60's and 70's groups and performers was enhanced by their drug taking. Almost everyone who performed at the Monterey Pop Festival in 1968 were presumed to be heavy drug takers. Hendrix, Joplin, The Who, etc. etc. I just believe their music would have been just as inspiring if they weren't. Although I must admit that the Doors music really sounded even more fantastic while smoking weed. It's all so subjective. To this day, when I still occasionally swoon to the older music of Barry Manilow, John Denver and the Osmond Family...I just can't believe these icons of music genius from that era ever took drugs to enhance their work. "Rocky Mountain High" was not about drugs.
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I don't know if the entrance exam for acceptance into the basic enlisted man's army was much different in Burroughs time versus the one I took in 1969, but I remember thinking to myself that the general intelligence exam I was presented with was on a 5th or 6th grade level of competency. What is 81 divided by 9? 12 X 12 equals...? How many inches in a yard? How many days in a year? In which state is the city of New York in? Who was president of the United States during the Civil War? Etc. etc,. It seemed to me that the only persons who could fail a test like that were mentally handicapped. The general joke back then was that if you failed the Air Force and Navy enlisted man entrance exams...no worry. The Army will always take you. Shouldn't researchers consider this Burroughs young man and his Oswald theater recollection with at least some reservation considering his admitted army rejection limitations in the mental capacity department? And can someone please enlighten me as to the importance of whether or not Oswald bought and ate some popcorn in his time in the Texas Theater?
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This reported in todays news: 'The Guardian' reports that if the truth about UFOs really is out there, the United States government isn't ready to talk about it yet. Despite promises of more transparency, Congress has acted to control the flow of information that is made public regarding UFOs. On December 14, Congress stripped measures regarding UFO records from a massive defense policy bill signed into law with bipartisan support. Those measures would have created a presidential commission to review records of UFO incidents. It also would have ordered the Department of Defense to declassify , "records relating to publicly known sightings of unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP).". 'The Guardian' reports that provisions were included in the bill that ordered the National Archives to collect reports of , "UAPs, technologies of unknown origin and nonhuman intelligence."
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Pat, Do you think his pre-mature age death was suspicious?