Myra Bronstein Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 (edited) Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/Michel Mertz of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." --- "November 19, 1963 Michel Roux enters the United States at New York and travels to Fort Worth, Texas for the stated purpose of visiting social acquaintances on Nov. 22nd. Michel Roux is a French army deserter with connections to French intelligence, working once as an infiltrator into the OAS. NOTE: Jean Souetre, a French OAS terrorist, considered a threat to the safety of French President Charles de Gaulle, uses the names Michel Roux and Michel Mertz as aliases. A CIA document asserts that Jean Souetre was in Fort Worth on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 and followed JFK on to Dallas that afternoon. Today, Souetre is the public relations director of an elegant gambling casino in France, reportedly operated by the Mafia. Michel Mertz, the other name used by Souetre, is also that of a real individual -- credited with once saving the life of President de Gaulle in an OAS terrorist attack. He is involved in international narcotics dealing. Mertz is reputed to be a legend of sorts in the world of espionage and narcotics smuggling. There is interesting speculation that Mertz has had a connection with the CIA in some of its more nefarious activities. THIS INFORMATION IS LATER CONCEALED FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION." Edited June 9, 2007 by Myra Bronstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted December 11, 2011 Share Posted December 11, 2011 (edited) Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/MICHEL MERTZ of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." [...] Was Dinkin actually a "code breaker" or was he a "crypto operator", as Dick Russell asserts in TMWKTM? I googled "crypto operator" and "cryptographic operator" and what I came up with is basically someone with a "top secret" clearance who looks after the computers and changes the codes on a regular basis. Someone please correct me on this and document the fact that Dinkin was a "code breaker" or, even better, an "intelligence analyst" ala the way mathematician John Nash was portrayed by Cameron Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind"... --Tommy Edited April 14, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Phelps Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 QJ/WIN=Jean Souetre Corsican French Connection assassin, ties with Auguste Ricord and the NAZI of Argentina, Christian David connection. Goes back to Carlos Marcello for US contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 14, 2012 Share Posted April 14, 2012 (edited) Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/Michel Mertz of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." --- "November 19, 1963 Michel Roux enters the United States at New York and travels to Fort Worth, Texas for the stated purpose of visiting social acquaintances on Nov. 22nd. Michel Roux is a French army deserter with connections to French intelligence, working once as an infiltrator into the OAS. NOTE: Jean Souetre, a French OAS terrorist, considered a threat to the safety of French President Charles de Gaulle, uses the names Michel Roux and Michel Mertz as aliases. A CIA document asserts that Jean Souetre was in Fort Worth on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 and followed JFK on to Dallas that afternoon. Today, Souetre is the public relations director of an elegant gambling casino in France, reportedly operated by the Mafia. Michel Mertz, the other name used by Souetre, is also that of a real individual -- credited with once saving the life of President de Gaulle in an OAS terrorist attack. He is involved in international narcotics dealing. Mertz is reputed to be a legend of sorts in the world of espionage and narcotics smuggling. There is interesting speculation that Mertz has had a connection with the CIA in some of its more nefarious activities. THIS INFORMATION IS LATER CONCEALED FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION." As is well known, a 1977-released CIA document dated April 1, 1964, states that the FBI had advised the French on March 5. 1964 that Jean Soutre aka Michel Roux aka Michael Mertz had been "expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination." Why was he expelled from the U.S.? Was one of the brake lights out on his rental car? Was he caught jaywalking? Had he failed to pay an old parking ticket? Since he was expelled "at" either Fort Worth or Dallas, he must been put on a plane in one of those cities. Was he put on a CIA plane, a military transport plane, one of H.L. Hunt's planes, or a commercial airliner? If a commercial airliner, which one? Air France? Delta? Was he being followed/surveilled by the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, the CIA, or the Texas Rangers? If so, why? And why did they let him be in Dallas on the of 22 November in the first place? Oh yeah, and why didn't they take his fingerprints and photograph before the expelled him? (Or did they?) Lots of questions but very few answers! --Tommy P.S. I stumbled upon a photocopy of this un-redacted version of the CIA document (released in full in 1995) on another website and transcribed it verbatim: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CIA Historical Review Program Released in Full 1995 -2- 8. Jean SOUETRE aka Michel ROUX aka Michael MERTZ – on 5 March [Mr. Papich] advised that the French had [hit] the Legal Attache in Paris and also the [sDECE man] had queried the Bureau in New York City concerning subject stating that he had been expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination. He was in Fort Worth on morning of 22 November and in Dallas in the afternoon. The French believe he was expelled to either Mexico or Canada. In January he received mail from a dentist named Alderson living at 5803 Birmingham, Houston, Texas. Subject is believed to be identical with a Captain who is a deserter from the French Army and an activist in the OAS. The French are concerned because of De Gaulle’s planned visit to Mexico. They would like to know the reason for his expulsion from the U.S. and his destination. Bureau files are negative and they are checking in Texas and with the INS. They would like a check of our files with indications of what may be passed to the French. Mr. Papich was given a copy of CSCI-3/766,742 previously furnished the Bureau and CSDB-3/655,207 together with a photograph of Captain SOUETRE . WE/3/Bublie; CI/SIG; CI/OPS/Evans Document Number: 632-796 (Illegible CIA routing slip in lower right-hand corner) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edited April 15, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/Michel Mertz of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." --- "November 19, 1963 Michel Roux enters the United States at New York and travels to Fort Worth, Texas for the stated purpose of visiting social acquaintances on Nov. 22nd. Michel Roux is a French army deserter with connections to French intelligence, working once as an infiltrator into the OAS. NOTE: Jean Souetre, a French OAS terrorist, considered a threat to the safety of French President Charles de Gaulle, uses the names Michel Roux and Michel Mertz as aliases. A CIA document asserts that Jean Souetre was in Fort Worth on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 and followed JFK on to Dallas that afternoon. Today, Souetre is the public relations director of an elegant gambling casino in France, reportedly operated by the Mafia. Michel Mertz, the other name used by Souetre, is also that of a real individual -- credited with once saving the life of President de Gaulle in an OAS terrorist attack. He is involved in international narcotics dealing. Mertz is reputed to be a legend of sorts in the world of espionage and narcotics smuggling. There is interesting speculation that Mertz has had a connection with the CIA in some of its more nefarious activities. THIS INFORMATION IS LATER CONCEALED FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION." As is well known, a 1977-released CIA document dated April 1, 1964, states that the FBI had advised the French on March 5. 1964 that Jean Soutre aka Michel Roux aka Michael Mertz had been "expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination." Why was he expelled from the U.S.? Was one of the brake lights out on his rental car? Was he caught jaywalking? Had he failed to pay an old parking ticket? Since he was expelled "at" either Fort Worth or Dallas, he must been put on a plane in one of those cities. Was he put on a CIA plane, a military transport plane, one of H.L. Hunt's planes, or a commercial airliner? If a commercial airliner, which one? Air France? Delta? Was he being followed/surveilled by the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, the CIA, or the Texas Rangers? If so, why? And why did they let him be in Dallas on the of 22 November in the first place? Oh yeah, and why didn't they take his fingerprints and photograph before the expelled him? (Or did they?) Lots of questions but very few answers! Below is the un-redacted (is that a word?) version of the CIA document which was released in full in 1995. I found a photocopy of it on another website and transcribed it verbatim: CIA Historical Review Program Released in Full 1995 -(page)2- 8. Jean SOUETRE aka Michel ROUX aka Michael MERTZ – on 5 March [Mr. Papich] advised that the French had [hit] the Legal Attache in Paris and also the [sDECE man] had queried the Bureau in New York City concerning subject stating that he had been expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination. He was in Fort Worth on morning of 22 November and in Dallas in the afternoon. The French believe he was expelled to either Mexico or Canada. In January he received mail from a dentist named Alderson living at 5803 Birmingham, Houston, Texas. Subject is believed to be identical with a Captain who is a deserter from the French Army and an activist in the OAS. The French are concerned because of De Gaulle’s planned visit to Mexico. They would like to know the reason for his expulsion from the U.S. and his destination. Bureau files are negative and they are checking in Texas and with the INS. They would like a check of our files with indications of what may be passed to the French. Mr. Papich was given a copy of CSCI-3/766,742 previously furnished the Bureau and CSDB-3/655,207 together with a photograph of Captain SOUETRE . WE/3/Bublie; CI/SIG; CI/OPS/Evans Document Number: 632-796 (Illegible CIA routing slip in lower right-hand corner) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Three observations: 1) Interesting usage of the previously-redacted word "hit"! Hmmm... 2) It's interesting to note that Angleton and his "mole-hunting" group, CI/SIG, was apprised of this. Wasn't Bill Harvey's ZR/RIFLE program hidden within something called "Section D" (you know, LI/ENVOY and all that) which, in turn, was hidden within CI?SIG? (Or something like that.) 3) Is this (see above) just another case of "CIA-shorthand bad grammar" or is it a case of creating intentional vagueness and/or inducing misinterpretation by any "unintiated" readers by not using correct punctuation?: "... the SDECE man had queried the Bureau in New York City concerning subject stating that he had been expelled from the U.S. at either Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination." Interpreting the words "concerning subject stated" as being just an example of "CIA shorthand grammar", it seems to be saying that the SDECE man had asked the FBI in NYC about Souetre, and that the SDECE man had told the FBI in NYC that Souetre had been expelled from either Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination. OK. But if the SDECE had already known this fact about Souetre, isn't it reasonable to assume that the FBI would have already known as well? Souetre was expelled from the U.S.A., after all. And isn't it strange that, according to this interpretation, the SDECE didn't know if Souetre had been expelled from Fort Worth or Dallas? Under this interpretation, one must wonder from which non-FBI source the SDECE learned that Souetre had been in at least one of those two Texas cities around the time of the assassination. There is another possible interpretation, and it requires a little punctuation "triage" for its meaning to become apparent: "... concerning (the) subject's stating that he had been expelled ....." In other words, Souetre told someone that he'd been kicked out of the U.S. from Fort Worth/Dallas two days after the assassination. I think that the latter interpretation is the most interesting, the most sinister, and also the most likely. --Tommy Edited April 15, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 15, 2012 Share Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/Michel Mertz of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." --- "November 19, 1963 Michel Roux enters the United States at New York and travels to Fort Worth, Texas for the stated purpose of visiting social acquaintances on Nov. 22nd. Michel Roux is a French army deserter with connections to French intelligence, working once as an infiltrator into the OAS. NOTE: Jean Souetre, a French OAS terrorist, considered a threat to the safety of French President Charles de Gaulle, uses the names Michel Roux and Michel Mertz as aliases. A CIA document asserts that Jean Souetre was in Fort Worth on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 and followed JFK on to Dallas that afternoon. Today, Souetre is the public relations director of an elegant gambling casino in France, reportedly operated by the Mafia. Michel Mertz, the other name used by Souetre, is also that of a real individual -- credited with once saving the life of President de Gaulle in an OAS terrorist attack. He is involved in international narcotics dealing. Mertz is reputed to be a legend of sorts in the world of espionage and narcotics smuggling. There is interesting speculation that Mertz has had a connection with the CIA in some of its more nefarious activities. THIS INFORMATION IS LATER CONCEALED FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION." As is well known, a 1977-released CIA document dated April 1, 1964, states that the FBI had advised the French on March 5. 1964 that Jean Soutre aka Michel Roux aka Michael Mertz had been "expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination." Why was he expelled from the U.S.? Was one of the brake lights out on his rental car? Was he caught jaywalking? Had he failed to pay an old parking ticket? Since he was expelled "at" either Fort Worth or Dallas, he must been put on a plane in one of those cities. Was he put on a CIA plane, a military transport plane, one of H.L. Hunt's planes, or a commercial airliner? If a commercial airliner, which one? Air France? Delta? Was he being followed/surveilled by the FBI, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, the CIA, or the Texas Rangers? If so, why? And why did they let him be in Dallas on the of 22 November in the first place? Oh yeah, and why didn't they take his fingerprints and photograph before the expelled him? (Or did they?) Lots of questions but very few answers! Below is the un-redacted (is that a word?) version of the CIA document which was released in full in 1995. I found a photocopy of it on another website and transcribed it verbatim: CIA Historical Review Program Released in Full 1995 -(page)2- 8. Jean SOUETRE aka Michel ROUX aka Michael MERTZ – on 5 March [Mr. Papich] advised that the French had [hit] the Legal Attache in Paris and also the [sDECE man] had queried the Bureau in New York City concerning subject stating that he had been expelled from the U.S. at Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination. He was in Fort Worth on morning of 22 November and in Dallas in the afternoon. The French believe he was expelled to either Mexico or Canada. In January he received mail from a dentist named Alderson living at 5803 Birmingham, Houston, Texas. Subject is believed to be identical with a Captain who is a deserter from the French Army and an activist in the OAS. The French are concerned because of De Gaulle’s planned visit to Mexico. They would like to know the reason for his expulsion from the U.S. and his destination. Bureau files are negative and they are checking in Texas and with the INS. They would like a check of our files with indications of what may be passed to the French. Mr. Papich was given a copy of CSCI-3/766,742 previously furnished the Bureau and CSDB-3/655,207 together with a photograph of Captain SOUETRE . WE/3/Bublie; CI/SIG; CI/OPS/Evans Document Number: 632-796 (Illegible CIA routing slip in lower right-hand corner) Four observations: 1) Interesting usage of the previously-redacted word "hit" . Hmmm... 2) It's interesting to note that Angleton and his "mole-hunting" group, CI/SIG, was apprised of this. Wasn't the CIA/NSA super-secret diplomatic eavesdropping and photo-surveillance program, "Section D", hidden in Angleton's CI/SIG, and wasn't Bill Harvey's ZR/RIFLE program, in turn, hidden within "Section D"? (Or something like that.) 3) Is this (see above) just another case of "CIA-shorthand bad grammar" or is it a case of creating intentional vagueness and/or inducing misinterpretation by any "unintiated" readers by not using correct punctuation?: "... the SDECE man had queried the Bureau in New York City concerning subject stating that he had been expelled from the U.S. at either Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination." Interpreting the words "concerning subject stated" as being just an example of "CIA shorthand grammar", it seems to be saying that the SDECE man had asked the FBI in NYC about Souetre, and that the SDECE man had told the FBI in NYC that Souetre had been expelled from either Fort Worth or Dallas 48 hours after the assassination. OK. But if the SDECE had already known this fact about Souetre, isn't it reasonable to assume that the FBI would have already known as well? Souetre was expelled from the U.S.A., after all. And isn't it strange that, according to this interpretation, the SDECE didn't know if Souetre had been expelled from Fort Worth or Dallas? In this scenario, one must wonder from which non-FBI source the SDECE learned that Souetre had been expelled from at-least-one-of-these-two-Texas-cities right just two days after the assassination. There is another possible interpretation, and it requires a little punctuation "triage" for its meaning to become apparent: "... concerning (the) subject's stating that he had been expelled ....." Looking at it from this angle, one could reasonably conclude that Souetre had told the SDECE that he'd been kicked out of the U.S. from "either" Fort Worth or Dallas two days after the assassination. I know I'm just speculating here, but maybe Souetre was picked up, debriefed/interrogated by U.S. intelligence, and then blindfolded and driven several miles to a small airport and put on a plane, not knowing if he was being "expelled" from Dallas or Fort Worth. (I think this interpretation is the most interesting and also the most likely.) 4) "He (Souetre) was in Fort Worth on morning of 22 November and in Dallas in the afternoon." It's interesting that the writer doesn't specify the source for this little tidbit. Taken in context, it would appear that "the SDECE man" told the FBI about it. If so, how did the French know Souetre had been in Fort Worth and Dallas on that particular day? And did they know about it in real time, or did they only find out later? If the French knew, wouldn't the FBI have known, too? But maybe the French didn't know it until they were told by the FBI/CIA. Maybe the FBI/CIA already knew it, maybe even as far back as the morning and afternoon of November 22nd, 1963. --Tommy bump Edited April 15, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328296.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328295.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328293.pdf Edited December 4, 2017 by Bart Kamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 4 hours ago, Bart Kamp said: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328296.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328295.pdf https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32328293.pdf Bart, These guys... *sigh* *smile* From: "A Possible French Connection" http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/S Disk/Souetre et al, Published/Item 02.pdf "The first we know of his career is that he was connected with the French 4th Air Force with the rank of captain, and in 1953 he was stationed at Petite Mulioun near Rheims. In his work there he was associated with an American Army Depot and became a friend of Dr. Lawrence Alderson, a U.S. Army captainfrom Houston, Texas. He and Dr. Alderson corresponded through the years, up until the time of the Kennedy assassination. He also became friendly with Alderson's successor, a U.S. army captain named Letourneau from Texas." When Alderson knew Souetre in 1953, Souetre was a 23 year old shave-tail second Lieutenant in charge of an anti-aircraft battery. He wouldn't make Lieutenant until 1954. He wasn't stationed at Petite Mulioun. More than likely he was stationed at Reims – Champagne Air Base (French: Base aérienne 112 Reims-Champagne) (IATA: RHE, ICAO: LFSR) is a former Front-line French Air Force (French: Armée de l'Air) (ALA) NATO air base. The base is located approximately 4 miles (6.4 km) north of Reims; about 81 miles (130km) northeast of Paris. The paratroopers did provide base security. Petite Mulioun, more than likely, was Mourmelon-le-Petit, a commune in the Marne department in north-eastern France. There was a mothballed USAF base there. The air force tried to make a go of it after WWII, but it didn't pan out. It became a fuel depot head for shipments further on into Germany. https://www.usarmygermany.com/Sont.htm?https&&&www.usarmygermany.com/Units/ComZ/USAREUR_ComZone%205.htm “The north/south road by Billy went to Mourmelon-le-Petite to the north and then on a little further north to Mourmelon-le-Grand. There is/was a French Army base out from Grand (we went to it for annual qualification on the M-1). Petite was an active R&R station for US troops during WWII. In later years I met some men who spent R&R time there during WWII and one even married a US Army nurse at Petite that he met while there. The highway at the south end of Billy went to Reims to the west and to Chalons to the east. As mentioned before, at various times we billeted at Billy and also at a US Air Force mothballed airbase just north of Vatry on the west side of D977.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Steve, I gotta fess up I have no interest in this guy whatsoever but while trawling through all the feds docs I came across these and others, which I have posted in various threads. I hope they are of some use and if not.....oh well Al I can say is that I am happy I finished going thru this pile of junk of just over 10.000 docs, I wish could have the hours back. Seriously.....what a pile of crap. I got about 5 PDFs that are of some use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) More on Souetre, unless Steve had already linked it: Edited December 4, 2017 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) On June 8, 2007 at 11:07 PM, Myra Bronstein said: Please see the below quotes. Do you find them credible? If so, do you think Souetre was a shooter or a trainer for the shooting team? --- http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1.html http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v2n1/chrono1.pdf THE JFK ASSASSINATION CHRONOLOGY Compiled by Ira David Wood III Has the following: "April 24, 1963... Also on this day, the Dallas Times Herald reports that JFK will visit Dallas in November. Around this period of time (Spring, 1963) French OAS captain Jean Souetre reportedly meets with General Edwin Walker, then goes on to New Orleans." --- "November 13, 1963 Secret Service agent Lawson reports to Agent Sorrels at Dallas office of Secret Service. (Metz, France) Army code breaker Pfc. Eugene Dinkin is taken into custody by Army officials and hospitalized in a closed psychiatric ward. He is kept virtually incommunicado for approximately one week. Dinkin had gone AWOL weeks before and alerted various embassies across Europe about a conspiracy to assassinate the president involving the military and perhaps an “ultra right economic group.” Dinkin eventually ends up in Walter Reed Army Hospital for four months -- where it appears that a “cover story” may have been induced to obfuscate whatever legitimate advance knowledge he possesses. Dinkin says that he believes that the psychiatric evaluation given him by the Army psychiatrist is, in fact, an attempt on their part to cover up the military plot which he has attempted to expose. There is evidence that the White House, the CIA and the Attorney General’s office were all in possession of Dinkin’s explicit and detailed warning prior to JFK’s assassination. NOTE: One of Dinkin’s duties as a code breaker has been to decipher cable traffic originating with the French OAS. Jean Souetre/Michel Mertz of the OAS will be in Dallas on November 22, 1963. The CIA’s William Harvey has a “stable” of assassins in Europe - most of whom also have ties to the French OAS." --- "November 19, 1963 Michel Roux enters the United States at New York and travels to Fort Worth, Texas for the stated purpose of visiting social acquaintances on Nov. 22nd. Michel Roux is a French army deserter with connections to French intelligence, working once as an infiltrator into the OAS. NOTE: Jean Souetre, a French OAS terrorist, considered a threat to the safety of French President Charles de Gaulle, uses the names Michel Roux and Michel Mertz as aliases. A CIA document asserts that Jean Souetre was in Fort Worth on the morning of Nov. 22, 1963 and followed JFK on to Dallas that afternoon. Today, Souetre is the public relations director of an elegant gambling casino in France, reportedly operated by the Mafia. Michel Mertz, the other name used by Souetre, is also that of a real individual -- credited with once saving the life of President de Gaulle in an OAS terrorist attack. He is involved in international narcotics dealing. Mertz is reputed to be a legend of sorts in the world of espionage and narcotics smuggling. There is interesting speculation that Mertz has had a connection with the CIA in some of its more nefarious activities. THIS INFORMATION IS LATER CONCEALED FROM THE WARREN COMMISSION." Bumping this opening post of the thread on Souetre. Threads on Souetre, on Dinkin, th OAS, on Permindex, on the Colonels (Steve Thomas), Jack Crichton, Phillipe de Vosjoli, all related. Jason Ward posted documents on Trejo’s ultra right thread showing that Souetre visited the US in April 1963 and met with Edwin Walker in Dallas, Guy Banister in New Orleans, visited the Lake Ponchartrain training camp. The SDECE appears to beinforming the FBI that Souetre left the US on Nov. 24 1963, after entering a week earlier to visit an American friend he met while that friend was posted in France while serving in the US Army. How curious the connection here to the defection to the US of Phillipe de Vosjoli from his post as head of SDECE in the US. Vosjoli worked closely with Angleton, and my guess is that the revelations of Golitsyn regarding KGB infiltration of SDECE led somehow to that defection. How odd the timing, and the actions of Vosjoli right after the assassination when he went to Acapulco and stayed with his friend retired US Army Colonel Brandstetter, co-founder with retired US Army Colonel Jack Crichton of the 488th Army Intelligence reserve unit in Dallas. Angleton, with impressive fascist credentials from his time in the OSS stationed in Rome, his close association with the Mossad, who according to Michele Metta may have been involved in the strategy of tension in Italy. Angleton, whose close friend Soviet spy Kim Philby defected back to the USSR in the first half of 1963. William Harvey himself told Angleton a decade earlier that he thought Philby was a spy. Is Thomas Graves correct when he states on this thread that Harvey’s ZRRIFLE assassination unit was part of Angleton’s CI/SIG? Edited April 13, 2018 by Paul Brancato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Paul, Bill Simpich and I presented on your question at the recent Lancer conference, I can't repeat the full hour long session here but the answer to your specific question no. When Harvey was given the directive to put together an executive action program his own notes tell us that his first thoughts were how/where to hide it inside the CIA (which he did within Staff D) but also how to obfuscate the identity of both the selected killer and the patsy who would be part of the equation in any such attack - most folks have seen Harvey's notes on this. He made a note to talk to Angleton (including I suspect about hiding multiple identities) and then went to Angleton after which Angleton also appears to have made some introductions for him and the two men clearly had an ongoing dialog on assassination. But ZR/RIFLE was created and funded inside Staff D, actually using the payroll record for QJ/WIN, already in existence, as part of the cover. People like Harvey and Angleton were experts in compartmentalizing elements of operations as part of burying them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said: Paul, Bill Simpich and I presented on your question at the recent Lancer conference, I can't repeat the full hour long session here but the answer to your specific question no. When Harvey was given the directive to put together an executive action program his own notes tell us that his first thoughts were how/where to hide it inside the CIA (which he did within Staff D) but also how to obfuscate the identity of both the selected killer and the patsy who would be part of the equation in any such attack - most folks have seen Harvey's notes on this. He made a note to talk to Angleton (including I suspect about hiding multiple identities) and then went to Angleton after which Angleton also appears to have made some introductions for him and the two men clearly had an ongoing dialog on assassination. But ZR/RIFLE was created and funded inside Staff D, actually using the payroll record for QJ/WIN, already in existence, as part of the cover. People like Harvey and Angleton were experts in compartmentalizing elements of operations as part of burying them. Larry, I'm easily confused trying to sort this out. I thought I'd read recently Angleton had access to everything Staff D did. Maybe from Ghost? I shouldn't allege that without checking first. But didn't Harvey and Angleton go back to the OSS in WWII in Italy besides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Hancock Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Ron, that's why this sort of thing - which Bill and I spent an hour on and I cover in several pages in NEXUS - is so difficult to capture in a few lines here. Harvey and Angleton's personal relationship developed while Angleton ran Staff C and Harvey Staff D (well first time around Harvey had Staff D and Staff E). If you mean access to files I'm sure Angleton had access to personnel files and very likely Staff D operational files. As to ZR/RIFLE files, I'm not sure there was much other than what was hidden in various places, I doubt there were operational files for that as you would find in standard, sanctioned operations - for example you will find no Roselli/Castro assassination file per se and his work with Harvey would fall under ZR/RIFLE. That sort of stuff was all verbal and paid out of cover accounts, even internal cover accounts like that for QJ/WIN. Which probably leaves you as confused as ever...sigh. Message me and if you want perhaps we can talk about it over the holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Larry, will your Lancer 2017 talk be uploaded to YouTube at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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