Paz Marverde Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Yes, IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Carter was the only POTUS after 11/22/63 who attempted (however unsuccessfully) to reform the CIA, and to sincerely raise the issue of human rights in our foreign policies. He was also the only POTUS after JFK who was willing to actively intervene in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. For these efforts, any references to Carter are usually greeted in the U.S. with howls of execration and derision. The Ayatollahs, unwittingly, held the wrong POTUS hostage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 (edited) Carter also initiated a serious attempt to deal with and curb corruption in our major city police forces and judicial systems and even Las Vegas. The Mafia had corrupted so many major city police forces and judicial systems over decades and it wasn't until Carter that a substantially funded effort was made on a federal level to deal with this problem in a major way. At one time it was estimated that police forces such as New York City and others had inner corruption rates of 30% and higher! Carter will never receive the credit he is due. Not even in our main stream media history books. But, the more you look at what he was trying to do, the specifics, you will see someone who the nefarious corrupt forces in this country hated. Reagan's handlers made that deal with the Iranians, they made a deal with the Vatican, and who knows how many other back room deals to gain an edge in the popular vote and dump a president who was really getting into areas of corruption and long held power that were not supposed to be dealt with. Like JFK, Carter had very powerful enemies who saw Carter's policies as a major threat to their status. They didn't have to kill Carter though. They just had to manipulate an election enough to get rid of him. Edited July 18, 2018 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) But for a sandstorm and clogged air intakes Carter Might have been hailed as a hero for authorizing a raid that rescued the hostages. From an old memory. "The next day, (after the election) Carter flew to West Germany to greet the hostages on their way home". https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/hostage-rescue-mission-ends-in-disaster Edited July 18, 2018 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph McBride Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) And Carter tried to appoint Ted Sorensen head of the CIA to clean it up. That plan was shot down by furious CIA and Senate opposition, using his conscientious-objector status in his youth as part of the excuse. Edited July 18, 2018 by Joseph McBride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Joseph McBride said: And Carter tried to appoint Ted Sorensen head of the CIA to clean it up. That plan was shot down by furious CIA and Senate opposition, using his conscientious-objector status in his youth as part of the excuse. Ditto, Joseph. Ditto. This IS a key point. Thanks for remembering it. I add: Sorensen's appointment was also thought to try to reopen the investigation on the assassination of JFK Edited July 18, 2018 by Paz Marverde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Carter was the only POTUS after 11/22/63 who attempted (however unsuccessfully) to reform the CIA Exactly. Once again, why I say Carter is very similar to JFK. Agree. Thank you Edited July 18, 2018 by Paz Marverde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 16 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Carter will never receive the credit he is due. Not even in our main stream media history books. But, the more you look at what he was trying to do, the specifics, you will see someone who the nefarious corrupt forces in this country hated. 16 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Like JFK, Carter had very powerful enemies who saw Carter's policies as a major threat to their status. I absolutely subscribe both assertions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Schnapf Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Reilley Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 bullets left on a windowsill overlooking where Carter was giving that speech, if I recall correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 That is an amazing story which does not get the attention it deserves. How could that possibly be a coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said: There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) . No surprise for me. Thank you very for your participation to the thread, by the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Lawrence Schnapf said: There was also an alleged attempted assassination of Carter shortly after he said the problems in the US go back to the JFK assassination and planned on making a big speech that was believed to have involved sweeping changes in US government. The speech was cancelled. One of the suspects was named "Raymond Lee Harvey" and the other "Oswaldo Espinoza Ortiz". See May 12, 1979 NYT or other papers for details (tried to upload but got message file was too large) . Yes, an amazing story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paz Marverde Posted July 18, 2018 Author Share Posted July 18, 2018 Look at how much interesting this part is: Quote Both Harvey and Espinoza now claim that Harvey was supposed to create a diversion by firing his starter’s pistol while two other men attempted to shoot Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, Paz Marverde said: Look at how much interesting this part is: The same kind of diversion Sirhan Sirhan provided for the real close up rear head shot shooter of RFK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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