Sean DeGrilla Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hello everyone...I recently published a book containing, among other things, the first CVSA of Lee Harvey Oswald. Additionally, I used my extensive law enforcement experience to analyze Oswald's post-assassination behavior via the spectrum of consciousness of guilt. Michael Paine's unpublished manuscript on LHO was also included in my book, as well as Detective Leavelle's unpublished notes. More of LHO's CVSA graphs are on my website @ seandegrilla.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Zartman Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hi Sean, best of luck on your book. Congratulations on writing it. Here are my first thoughts, to take or leave as you please. you may have addressed these in your book already. Knowing how unreliable other stress tests are, such as the polygraph, I hesitate to put much faith in the reliability of a voice stress test. Any sort of public speaking puts stress on most people, much less the added stress of being in front of cameras, surrounded by policemen, and accused of murder. As the designated patsy, it seems obvious that Oswald did play a role in any possible conspiracy. No one trustworthy (that I know of) tries to argue that Oswald was a completely innocent bystander that wasn't involved in some fashion or another. Therefore, a theoretically reliable stress test indicating some level of deception might reveal was involved somehow, but not necessarily prove he was a lone shooter acting of his own accord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Sounds more like Harvey Oswald's underlying foreign accent rather than a pseudo-psychological "consciousness of guilt". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Thanks Denny for your reply. The CVSA is an investigative tool and has been used in selected civil and criminal cases, but is generally not admissible - just an investigative tool. As articulated in my book, the stress levels of a subject have nothing to do with the results. I have attached two more CVSA graphs from my book. Oswald told the truth, and the CVSA measured No Deception Indicated, when Oswald said "A policeman hit me." Another graph I attached shows that stress played no part, and that the only time Deception Indicated registered was when Oswald was lying. I have taken a CVSA for law enforcement employment, and I was extremely nervous. My results were not skewed due to my nervousness. Moreover, alcohol and barbiturate use does not skew the results either. Not only do I have personal experience with the CVSA, I had an expert with decades of experience conduct these tests. My book also provides such documentation, including that the CVSA has a 98 percent accuracy rate and is used by more than 2000 law enforcement agencies worldwide. My next post will include the CVSA results for "I'm just a patsy," which clearly show he is being deceptive. Examination of Oswald's statement reveals he was not a fall guy or was set up for something he didn't do, but rather "they have taken me in because of the fact that I lived in the Soviet Union." He was a patsy because he had attempted defection to the Soviet Union and the world was in the throes of the Cold War. This is similar today of a U.S. serviceman attempting defection to Iraq. *I just tried to upload the charts but it's saying the file is too large. Still working on it. Some charts can be found at seandegrilla.com* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 I can't upload the charts...they can be found at seandegrilla.com. Take a look and let me know what you think. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Here is one from his New Orleans radio interview. He was nervous, but replied truthfully "Yes" to the question by Bill Stuckey of "Are you a Marxist?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaleen Kilroy Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Sure would love to see that test on certain CIA officials testifying to Congress during the HSCA, namely Helms, Phillips and Angleton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 My examiner informed me that the CVSA can be applied to any recordings; all that's needed is a qualified examiner. In fact, he used the CVSA on one of the Michael Jackson accusers by analyzing a deposition recording. Very interesting, but frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 (edited) Interesting. However, doubters and critics could ask you to perform these same tests using publicly recorded statements by so many other closely connected main characters in the event such as Jack Ruby, Marina Oswald, Chief Curry, Captain Fritz, Dallas D. A. Henry Wade, George DeMohrenschildts, Secret Service agents, LBJ ( his " others may have been involved" interview with Walter Cronkite ) George Bush and on and on. My first choice would be Seth Kantor's recorded under oath testimony in his appearance in the "Trial Of Lee Harvey Oswald" documentary when he describes in detail personally meeting and talking to Jack Ruby at Dallas's Parkland Hospital the early afternoon of 11,22,1963. Edited August 20, 2019 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Joe certainly has a good point, Sean, about testing the pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 Joe and David I agree. The CVSA for Oswald was expensive, so I only did the Oswald New Orleans and Dallas audio captures. I also duplicated George O'Toole's results in his book "The Assassination Tapes" and proved that he used the wrong Mode on the PSE and skewed his results (O'Toole used Mode 2 for female voices instead of Mode 1 for male voices). I explain this in more detail, including providing all documentation, in "Malcontent". I am currently researching and writing my second book on Oswald, but my long-term goal is to write another book that includes CVSAs for various witnesses and participants. I'm getting many questions about Buell Frazier, so he will be first on my list when I undertake that project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaleen Kilroy Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 Would be great to try the lie detector test on this interview: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean DeGrilla Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 That's a funny interview. Even though I believe Oswald was solely responsible, I don't believe Helms in another interview when he stated that the CIA did not have a surveillance photo of Oswald leaving the embassy in Mexico City, or that they did not debrief him after he returned from the Soviet Union. We all know Helms was a CIA apologist and the effort to distance themselves from innocuous connections to Oswald backfired and only made them look more guilty than they were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/O%20Disk/O'Toole%20George/Item%2019.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaleen Kilroy Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 (edited) On 9/23/2019 at 3:16 AM, Sean DeGrilla said: That's a funny interview. Even though I believe Oswald was solely responsible, I don't believe Helms in another interview when he stated that the CIA did not have a surveillance photo of Oswald leaving the embassy in Mexico City, or that they did not debrief him after he returned from the Soviet Union. We all know Helms was a CIA apologist and the effort to distance themselves from innocuous connections to Oswald backfired and only made them look more guilty than they were... I don't find Helms funny or innocuous. In fact, I find him culpable: Edited September 24, 2019 by Michaleen Kilroy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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