The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[Paul Rigby]

5 hours ago, Chris Barnard said:

Hi Kirk, 

Could you please remove this post, as it breaks a forum rule. 

Thanks 

Chris,

I suspect Kirk is a more dedicated follower of Kenneth Williams – he of "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me" fame – than he understands. “I can't stand innuendo,” the great thespian once admitted, adding, “If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.” So with Kirk. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Paul Rigby said:

Chris,

I suspect Kirk is a more dedicated follower of Kenneth Williams – he of "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me" fame – than he understands. “I can't stand innuendo,” the great thespian once admitted, adding, “If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.” So with Kirk. 

I have to agree with you. He is very consistent and predictable. 

[Paul Rigby]

1 minute ago, Chris Barnard said:

I have to agree with you. He is very consistent and predictable. 

On the upside, you have the privilege of being psychoanalysed, for free and on a regular basis, by the intellectual equivalent of a blancmange.

[Guest]

11 minutes ago, Paul Rigby said:

On the upside, you have the privilege of being psychoanalysed, for free and on a regular basis, by the intellectual equivalent of a blancmange.

Haha well, it’s rather like having Biden teach you how to best tackle aircraft stairs. About as much use as a chocolate teapot. 

[Benjamin Cole]

Naomi Wolf:

"But you don’t have to agree with Mr Carlson’s interpretation of the videos, to believe, as I do, that he engaged in valuable journalism simply by airing the footage that was given to him."

I agree with this.

Also, Carlson episodes on the JFKA and possible role of the CIA in it. 

The sad part of this is---it should be left-wing, or liberal media, aggressively countering government narratives. But they are not. 

Why doesn't Rachel Maddow demand the Biden Administration release the JFK Records immediately? 

Why doesn't CNN air the Mr. Buffalo Horns footage (now public), and say, "Well, this sure looks like new information on what on what happened inside the Capitol. This requires explanation, not censorship." 

If Tucker Carlson presents the only non-government narrative, then I take my hat off to him. 

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

Essential reading for some here. The mindset of these emotional, rabid animals is that anyone who doesn’t occupy their exact position or POV is Hitler. It’s intellectually lazy, lacking rationality or basic common sense. It’s also malicious. 
 

I haven’t seen anyone ‘far right’, ‘fascist’, ‘National Socialist’ or anything like it on the forum. Nobody even close. Is there even anyone here who identifies with any of the totalitarian ideologies? We may have some authoritarians. At the drop of a hat, those incapable or debate or any sort of reasoning just throw the mud, hoping some will stick. It highlights what a poor state society is in. Imagine calling traditional libertarians, racists fascists or third-reichers.

 

Imagine thinking in a world full of complexity with so much knowledge to be found for those looking, that they choose to look at the world in this tribal, myopic lens, where a human being can only be two things; ie in full support of the party and collectivism, or they’re a racist, transphobic, anti-semitic, far right, fascist, national socialist, white privileged, supporter of the patriarchy. The programming of media has left these types as social and intellectual vegetables. 

 

It may be worth considering that these types are not driven by kindness, compassion or bettering humanity. The shroud of virtue signallers often slips off and reveals their macabre intentions. As many psychologists have pointed out, resentment is a powerful emotion. 
 

 

[John Cotter]

9 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Me, a white night?  Horse dooky no kkk in my history.  Texas trash?  My ancestry runs deep, back to Scotland and Normandy through England.  Are you inbred?

Ron,

@Matthew Kochhad the good grace to apologise for his transgression. If you haven't the good grace to reciprocate, you could at least have refrained from further provocation such as this.

We'll probably never agree on certain topics, but let's at least try to be civil.

Edited March 11, 2023 by John Cotter

[Matthew Koch]

3 hours ago, Paul Rigby said:

Chris,

I suspect Kirk is a more dedicated follower of Kenneth Williams – he of "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me" fame – than he understands. “I can't stand innuendo,” the great thespian once admitted, adding, “If I see one in a script I whip it out immediately.” So with Kirk. 

If I had to guess, I would put my money on that Kirk is a follower of Kenneth Anger.. 

[Matthew Koch]

3 hours ago, Chris Barnard said:

Essential reading for some here. The mindset of these emotional, rabid animals is that anyone who doesn’t occupy their exact position or POV is Hitler. It’s intellectually lazy, lacking rationality or basic common sense. It’s also malicious. 
I haven’t seen anyone ‘far right’, ‘fascist’, ‘National Socialist’ or anything like it on the forum. Nobody even close. Is there even anyone here who identifies with any of the totalitarian ideologies? We may have some authoritarians. At the drop of a hat, those incapable or debate or any sort of reasoning just throw the mud, hoping some will stick. It highlights what a poor state society is in. Imagine calling traditional libertarians, racists fascists or third-reichers.

Imagine thinking in a world full of complexity with so much knowledge to be found for those looking, that they choose to look at the world in this tribal, myopic lens, where a human being can only be two things; ie in full support of the party and collectivism, or they’re a racist, transphobic, anti-semitic, far right, fascist, national socialist, white privileged, supporter of the patriarchy. The programming of media has left these types as social and intellectual vegetables. 

It may be worth considering that these types are not driven by kindness, compassion or bettering humanity. The shroud of virtue signallers often slips off and reveals their macabre intentions. As many psychologists have pointed out, resentment is a powerful emotion. 

Well, we both know "father" Gallaway doesn't forgive people and when you called him the N word for white people over his authoritarian Covid lockdown stance there must have been alot of truth to it. Because he's has made it his mission to get you back for that. So taking a page out of the child's guide to arguing he's now accusing you of what you said to him, what a copy cat! Plus his case is so is extremely abstract to use someone on the level of Fredrick Nietzsche who predates Italian fascism as proof that they are fascist. But when someone doesn't have a case they will clutch at anything which is thread was shown, with our Memetic Scholars, which Kirk is a member of.. Same people will attempt to kick you out of the herd so you can be devoured by wolves when they see any sign of not being a fellow follower. https://www.azquotes.com/quote/939129

I haven't seen anyone who is Fascist on the forum either but as we have seen the logic of Antifa is that they're the anti bad guys so if you are critical of them.. you must be a closet bad guy. I know my family linage and my ancestors came over to America after Lincoln ended slavery when there was a massive influx of German immigrants, where they lived as farmers in Minnesota, moved to Nebraska until the dust bowl caused them to move to western NY. Members of my family literally fought in the war against the Axis so that's why I get wound up when lefty Cliché Guevara's resort to calling me a fascist because it's the furtherest from the truth and as a result I have always considered myself an American not a "German" American. Since my family and I were not a part of American slavery or German Fascism, I refuse to let people put that crown of thorns on me.. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Matthew Koch

[W. Niederhut]

Mark, Sandy & Kathy,

      This thread should either be deleted, or re-named the, "Education Forum MAGA Spam Thread."

      We're now seeing multiple entire pages of daily MAGA spam, in lieu of rational, evidence-based dialogues.

      I notice that Paul Rigby has even posted a lengthy disinformation blog by disgraced Fox News sell-out, Naomi Wolf, in support of Tucker Carlson's false, revisionist history of Trump's J6 coup attempt.   Ben Cole was thrilled.

      Forget Trump, Eastman, Chris Miller and Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn.   J6 was, obviously, Nancy Pelosi's fault.

      Nancy, evidently, wanted to make Trump look bad by having the Capitol ransacked to disrupt Biden's election certification.

      Geez...  What has happened to this thread is a real pity... 🙄

      

Edited March 11, 2023 by W. Niederhut

[Matthew Koch]

Naomi Wolf is now a disinformation agent since she admits she was wrong about J6.  

I guess when you can't admit you are wrong about something censorship is the only recourse.. 

Edited March 11, 2023 by Matthew Koch

[W. Niederhut]

13 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

Mark, Sandy & Kathy,

      This thread should either be deleted, or re-named the, "Education Forum MAGA Spam Thread."

      We're now seeing multiple entire pages of daily MAGA spam, in lieu of rational, evidence-based dialogues.

      I notice that Paul Rigby has even posted a lengthy disinformation blog by disgraced Fox News sell-out, Naomi Wolf, in support of Tucker Carlson's false, revisionist history of Trump's J6 coup attempt.   Ben Cole was thrilled.

      Forget Trump, Eastman, Chris Miller and Lt. Gen. Charles Flynn.   J6 was, obviously, Nancy Pelosi's fault.

      Nancy, evidently, wanted to make Trump look bad by having the Capitol ransacked to disrupt Biden's election certification.

      Geez...  What has happened to this thread is a real pity... 🙄

      

Fred Wertheimer published an excellent op-ed today about Tucker Carlson's false, revisionist J6 swindle.

I'm guessing that the guys in our Coalition of the Clueless don't even know who Fred Wertheimer is.

Opinion | The Tucker Carlson-Led Effort to Whitewash the History of January 6 Will Fail | Common Dreams

Edited March 11, 2023 by W. Niederhut

[W. Niederhut]

6 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Naomi Wolf is now a disinformation agent now that she admits she was wrong about J6.  

I guess when you can't admit you are wrong about something censorship is the only recourse.. 

Newsflash, Koch.

Non-scientist Naomi Wolf sold out to Faux News, like Glenn Greenwald.

Naomi Wolf Was a Feminist Icon. Now She’s an Anti-Vaxxer Banned by Twitter | The New Republic

[W. Niederhut]

12 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

PolitiFact | Evidence rebuts Tucker Carlson’s claim about Capitol Police acting as tour guides to ‘QAnon Shaman’

Exhibit A.

Not a single comment or rebuttal from our Coalition of the Clueless during the past 12 hours about this detailed Politifact fact-check and debunking of Tucker Carlson's J6 narrative on Fox.

Instead, we have witnessed another entire page of MAGA spam by Mathew Koch, Paul Rigby, Ben Cole, and John Cotter in support of Tucker's false narrative-- including an endorsement of Tucker by his shill, Naomi Wolf.

[Matthew Koch]

Interesting the bias left mocking bird media that many rely for their talking points is referring to the latest revelations of destruction of evidence and federal provocateur involvement in J6 as "Classified information" and a "Hiccup" 

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/09/classified-info-proud-boys-trial-00086357

‘Spill’ of classified info derails Proud Boys trial

It’s the latest hiccup in a seditious conspiracy trial that has been marked by excruciating delays and extended legal disputes. 

Federal prosecutors inadvertently disclosed likely classified material to Proud Boys defense attorneys, Justice Department officials indicated Thursday, a snafu that has derailed — for at least a full day — the most important trial to emerge from the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol.

The admission in court by a top DOJ official came in connection with testimony from FBI Special Agent Nicole Miller, one of the lead investigators in the Proud Boys case. Miller has already spent two days testifying about the Proud Boys’ Jan. 6 activities — their march to the Capitol from the Washington Monument and key role in the breaches that led to the broader attack.

As part of her testimony, prosecutors shared with defense lawyers a set of internal FBI messages that Miller had sent and received from colleagues related to the case — a standard production of evidence in criminal cases. To compile those exchanges, FBI headquarters sent Miller a spreadsheet of her messages — culled from a computer network classified at the “secret” level. Miller then reviewed the messages and filtered them to ensure only relevant, unclassified exchanges were included.

 

Miller sent her final list to prosecutors, who then packaged the messages into an Excel spreadsheet that they provided to defense lawyers. But unbeknownst to them, the messages Miller initially filtered out — including some that DOJ officials say are likely classified — were left in the final document as “hidden” rows in the Excel spreadsheet. Defense counsel stumbled upon them and began grilling Miller about them in front of jurors in the case.

Overnight, Justice Department attorneys told the defense team they were concerned there had been a “spill” of classified information in the hidden messages they accessed. And on Thursday, U.S. District Court Judge Tim Kelly paused the trial — already in its third month — to determine how to handle the error.

It’s the latest hiccup in a seditious conspiracy trial that has been marked by excruciating delays and extended legal disputes. Prosecutors say Proud Boys chair Enrique Tarrio and four leaders of the group schemed to prevent the transfer of power from Donald Trump to Joe Biden. The group, according to the Justice Department, split into teams that helped engineer the breach of police lines and, ultimately, the building itself, when one of the defendants, Dominic Pezzola, smashed a Senate-wing window with a stolen riot shield.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Jocelyn Ballantine, who is supervising the case for the Justice Department, acknowledged the likely “spill” of classified information Thursday morning. She raised particular concerns about a message sent to Miller by another agent who works on covert activity — and who she said did not work on the Proud Boys case — describing a supervisor’s order to “destroy 338 items of evidence.”