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1 hour ago, Cliff Varnell said:

99.9% of Dallas visit images show a guy enjoying himself.

There was no “aSsAssInaTioN.”

Why are you arguing against yourself?

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56 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Why don't you try something else other than character assassination? Your attempts to make me wear your white supremest crown of thorns is a rather pathetic. 

 

Talk me through this photo again, Matthew? and Chris Barnard? What's that symbol formed by Roger Stone's fingers?


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Footage you won't see on Carlson's sideshow — Roger at the Willard with an Oath Keeper.

For Matthew and Chris's  edification ... Oath Keepers is an American far-right[1] anti-government militia[1][3] whose leaders have been convicted of violently opposing the government of the United States, including the transfer of Presidential power as prescribed by the US Constitution. It was incorporated in 2009 by founder Elmer Stewart Rhodes, a lawyer and former paratrooper. As of January 2023, nine members have been convicted of seditious conspiracy for their roles in the January 6 United States Capitol attack. These include three who pled guilty in early 2022, Rhodes and another leader who were convicted of multiple felonies that November, and four more who were convicted of multiple felony charges in January 2023.[4] [5]

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1 hour ago, John Cotter said:

Why are you arguing against yourself?

Cliff, I hope you're okay with me stepping in here.  I haven't figured out how to tag a specific member in an independent comment, so I'll avail of your interaction with John Cotter if you don't mind.

John, I'm curious if you're familiar with this JFK assassination-related history?

Author and publisher David Talbot writes that Stockdale “flew to Washington and talked with Robert and Edward Kennedy about the assassination of their brother. On his return [to Miami] Stockdale told several of his friends that ‘the world was closing in.’ On December 1, he spoke to his attorney, William Frates, who later recalled: ‘He started talking. It didn’t make much sense. He said something about “those guys” trying to get him. Then about the assassination.’”

As intriguing as Ann Stockdale’s and David Talbot’s revelations are, few were aware at the time of Stockdale’s acquaintanceship with Otto and Ilse Skorzeny in Ireland, and the possible impact that may have had on his untimely death. . . . 


In February 1961, newly elected President John Kennedy had nominated Stockdale to be the US Ambassador to Ireland. On March 28, 1961, the US Senate confirmed the nomination. Stockdale and his family enjoyed their time at the ambassador’s residence, Phoenix Park in Dublin, Ireland where as ambassador, he often hosted formal gatherings and events for dignitaries. 

Among the Stockdales’ guests, in the spirit of céad míle fáilte (a hundred thousand welcomes) were Otto and Ilse Skorzeny. The Skorzenys had purchased a 155-acre estate named Martinstown House, in Curragh, County Kildare in June 1959. Stockdale was acutely familiar with the former National Socialist SS officer who often visited with various American businessmen in meetings held in the American Embassy in Ballsbridge, Co. Dublin, including military officers and intelligence officials, as well as various embassy staff members throughout 1960, 1961, and 1962. Former embassy personnel vividly recall Skorzeny coming to the embassy on a near “weekly basis.” Evidence also reveals that the Skorzenys were occasional dinner guests joining the ambassador and his wife, and that Ilse Skorzeny was a frequent visitor to Miami, Florida. As we learn in a later chapter in pursuit of the Skorzenys’ time in Ireland, the SS officer had been an active participant in aiding arms trafficking to the Irish Republican Army (IRA). 

When the Serve-U Corporation scandal involving Democratic operative Bobby Baker finally exploded, under pressure from his close friend President Kennedy, Grant Stockdale reluctantly resigned his post in Ireland in July 1962.

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1 hour ago, Cliff Varnell said:

I thought the Irish were well versed in irony.

I know that explicating ironic or metaphorical arguments in literal terms is problematic, but it mighty be worthwhile attempting it here.

Stripped of irony, your argument, as I understand it, is that (a) the vast preponderance of Dallas visit images showing a happy JFK doesn’t mean that (b) the fleeting images of him being assassinated are fake or non-existent.

Now, replace the (a) part of your comparator by “the voluminous footage of violent, chaotic or turbulent J6 scenes” and the (b) part by “the brief exculpatory footage of Jacob Chansley apparently being mutually respectfully and peacefully accompanied by police officers through the Capitol building (not to mention evidence of security stripping and agent provocateurs)”.

That’s what I meant when I suggested that you were arguing against yourself.

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1 hour ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Talk me through this photo again, Matthew? and Chris Barnard? What's that symbol formed by Roger Stone's fingers?
 

Boy is it sad that I have to educate you every time I reply to you. Apparently you are unaware of the campaign by 4/Chan to make dumb leftoids think the OK symbol is a hate symbol.. Thats why people like Milo Yiannopolis, Roger Stone and Jack Posobiec are doing it to T roll people like you that aren't capable of doing their own research. 

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/249/757/858.jpg_large

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ok-symbol-👌

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#DebunkedAgain

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3 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:

Boy is it sad that I have to educate you every time I reply to you. Apparently you are unaware of the campaign by 4/Chan to make dumb leftoids think the OK symbol is a hate symbol.. Thats why people like Milo Yiannopolis, Roger Stone and Jack Posobiec are doing it to T roll people like you that aren't capable of doing their own research. 

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/249/757/858.jpg_large

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ok-symbol-👌

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#DebunkedAgain

You're certainly adept at spin, Matthew, I'll give you that.  

I notice your initial foray into Ed Forum appears to be this one.  Who would have thought your first assignment would be damage control for the insipid Qanon? You really drew the short straw there, Matt.  Is "Bolshevik" your euphemism for Jew? 

Is QAnon: The Bolshevik PSYOP "Operation Trust" from Anatoliy Golitsyn’s book


Matthew Koch

By Matthew Koch
November 13, 2022 in JFK Assassination Debate

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2 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Footage you won't see on Carlson's sideshow — Roger at the Willard with an Oath Keeper.

For Matthew and Chris's  edification ... Oath Keepers is an American far-right[1] anti-government militia[1][3] whose leaders have been convicted of violently opposing the government of the United States, including the transfer of Presidential power as prescribed by the US Constitution. It was incorporated in 2009 by founder Elmer Stewart Rhodes, a lawyer and former paratrooper. As of January 2023, nine members have been convicted of seditious conspiracy for their roles in the January 6 United States Capitol attack. These include three who pled guilty in early 2022, Rhodes and another leader who were convicted of multiple felonies that November, and four more who were convicted of multiple felony charges in January 2023.[4] [5]

Leslie now that I'm your teacher, I am giving you an F on your research project for posting MSNPC and using Wikipedia as your source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers

 

SO, if I were to use Leslie's logic that someone is a White Supremest for sharing someone on Twitter who has 2 Million followers... what does that make you since you literally worked for a White Supremest? Because HL Hunt is most definitely a white supremest💯

Here is a day in the life of Leslie, is this the kind of PR you did for HL Hunt?? LOL did you write what this lady is saying? 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Leslie Sharp said:

You're certainly adept at spin, Matthew, I'll give you that.  

I notice your initial foray into Ed Forum appears to be this one.  Who would have thought your first assignment would be damage control for the insipid Qanon? You really drew the short straw there, Matt.  Is "Bolshevik" your euphemism for Jew? 
 

Is QAnon: The Bolshevik PSYOP "Operation Trust" from Anatoliy Golitsyn’s book


Matthew Koch

By Matthew Koch
November 13, 2022 in JFK Assassination Debate

Take Meds Schizo!! 

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17 minutes ago, John Cotter said:

I know that explicating ironic or metaphorical arguments in literal terms is problematic, but it mighty be worthwhile attempting it here.

Stripped of irony, your argument, as I understand it, is that (a) the vast preponderance of Dallas visit images showing a happy JFK doesn’t mean that (b) the fleeting images of him being assassinated are fake or non-existent.

I'm taking the piss out of Trump cultists.  I need to explain that?

17 minutes ago, John Cotter said:

Now, replace the (a) part of your comparator by “the voluminous footage of violent, chaotic or turbulent J6 scenes” and the (b) part by “the brief exculpatory footage of Jacob Chansley apparently being mutually respectfully and peacefully accompanied by police officers through the Capitol building (not to mention evidence of security stripping and agent provocateurs)”.

The (a) part is voluminous footage turned over to Tucker Carlson.

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