The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[David Andrews]

6 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

Yes thank you.

If you watch the series "Ozark" on NetFlix it goes into a lot of money laundering techniques. I'm halfway through season 2.

Long story short, the main character wants to buy a Casino because it's mostly a cash business. The Philly/NYC Mafia would have used the AC casinos in the same way. Dirty cash in and clean cash out.

 

Thanks, I love Ozark.

[Paul Brancato]

On 5/20/2020 at 2:34 PM, Kirk Ross said:

FWIW, have you seen this?  Not exactly the MSM take on  it.

http://jimhougan.com/JimJones.html

Thanks for posting this. I had read it some time ago but enjoyed doing so again. It’s so interesting that Jim Jones went to the Soviet Union around the time Oswald was leaving, and that he had an apparent double using his identity. Again shades of Oswald. Invesco, where Jones ‘worked’, was certainly interesting, probably part of Skorzeny’s network.

[Cliff Varnell]

12 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I don’t agree with critics of the UC Berkeley students who protested Bill Maher.  The right to free speech does not grant rights to a venue. Does a satanist have a right to free speech at Liberty University to discuss the 11 Rules of Satanism on Earth?

Didn't someone from Berkeley have to "invite" Bill Maher? Like the Berkeley Bill Maher fan club or something.

It doesn't seem like Bill Maher would just show up and demand a venue.

Is there a fan club for Satan at an evangelical Christian university?

It doesn't seem like  Satanists can just show up and demand a venue.

Weird that Bill Maher, with say 1,000 fans at Berkeley, would get an invitation, but the Satanists, with say 2 fans at Liberty, would not get an invitation.

Good points. If the students of Liberty were objectively introduced to The 11 Rules of Satanism on Earth as an ethical rather than spiritual code there would be a significant number who could reconcile it with the ethical code of Christianity.

I’m not a satanist. I believe in a higher power of my own conception. I have vast respect for those who live lives in service of others.

Satanists hold their own free will as the highest power and view those who live lives in the service of others as chumps. I’m not down with that.

But as a personal code of conduct I’m down with the 11 rules.

Mostly in line with Christian ethics the 11 Rules of Satanism on Earth should be introduced to Christian colleges. But if lots of students protested, I wouldn’t blame a college for begging off.

[Cliff Varnell]

Just now, Robert Wheeler said:

I don't think the Bill Maher / Satan analogy works.

Satanists at a Evangelical University are just there to stir the pot (provoke a possibly violent reaction) rather than educate or entertain. 

When are satanists at Christian Universities?

I’m not referring to satanists per se — I’m referring to a text..

https://www.churchofsatan.com/eleven-rules-of-earth/

1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.
2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.
3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.
4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.
5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.
6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.
7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.
8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.
9. Do not harm little children.
10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.
11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.</q>

Just now, Robert Wheeler said:

merry It's the same reason why the KKK doesn't get invited to Howard University and Illinois Nazis don't get invited to Yeshiva U.

I beg to disagree. The only “rule” that’s of the occult is #7. 

Rule 11 is too harsh for Christians.

All the other rules are consistent with Christian codes of conduct.

Just now, Robert Wheeler said:

The Evangelicals, Blacks and Jews didn't choose those schools to have to have their dogma's challenged.

The 11 rules challenge no Christian dogma except #7, it might be argued.

 

Just now, Robert Wheeler said:

The same could be said of a student who chooses a school with a great pre-med curriculum because they want to be a doctor some day.

The student who wants to be exposed to all types of ideas should be able to attend a university where they are going to here it all, the good and the bad. Berkeley, among others, should be that place. If Bill Maher is too controversial to handle, let alone the Nazis, Satanists and the KKK, then they should go back to their mom's basement.

 

If the 11 rules are too controversial for you to handle I pity you.

[Cliff Varnell]

31 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

 

7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

Substitute “faith in Christ” for the word “magic” and no preacher’s feathers ruffle, right?

[Kirk Ross]

3 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

probably part of Skorzeny’s network

Look at page 3 more than half way down.  He's mentioned.  Probably just a coincidence. 

and Jones being in Mexico City and Cuba in '62, another coincidence

Edited May 22, 2020 by Kirk Ross
coincidence

[Cliff Varnell]

6 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I think you got it in your head that you want me to argue about Satan's top ten list + 1.

There is no such thing. I believe the title is 11 Satanic Rules of Earth.

It’s by Anton LeVay. He mocked the hell out of the Catholic Church so some might project their belief in supernatural beings to satanists who only worship their own free will.

6 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

 

I never knew there was one, and now I guess I do. 
 

Now I guess you don’t.

6 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

The first 4 rules + #8, could be consolidated into "Don't be annoying", but then Satan would only have 7 rules, not 11
 

You have children but you think the admonishment “don’t be annoying” is satanic?

The message for you is “don’t be literal.”

If you don’t get the joke the joke’s on you.

 

6 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

They should serve you well on your next Dungeons & Dragons campaign.

[Cliff Varnell]

1 minute ago, Robert Wheeler said:

I just think there is a Reddit thread or 4 for whatever point you are trying to get across. I just said your analogy was poor.

Back on ignore Nigel

And I stood up for my analogy and now you’re bent out of shape.

[Cliff Varnell]

15 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

#9 is about not harming children. not #8

Pretty much every species with a vertebrate “follows” that rule,

Robert doesn’t remember the Satanic Panic?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

[Cliff Varnell]

2 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:The first 4 rules + #8, could be consolidated into "Don't be annoying", 

This is a terrific observation!

#1 — Don’t be annoying.  #2 — Don’t be annoying. #3 — Don’t be annoying. #4 — The consequences of annoyance can be severe. #5 — Don’t be annoying. #6 — Don’t be a criminal asshole. #7 — Don’t be an ingrate, if you’re Christian fill the plate. #8 — Don’t be annoying. #9 — Don’t be a criminal asshole. #10 — Don’t be a common asshole. #11 — Don’t be an asshole — the consequences can be severe.

[Cliff Varnell]

4 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

This is a terrific observation!

#1 — Don’t be annoying.  #2 — Don’t be annoying. #3 — Don’t be annoying. #4 — The consequences of annoyance can be severe. #5 — Don’t be annoying. #6 — Don’t be a criminal asshole. #7 — Don’t be an ingrate, if you’re Christian fill the plate. #8 — Don’t be annoying. #9 — Don’t be a criminal asshole. #10 — Don’t be a common asshole. #11 — Don’t be an asshole — the consequences can be severe.

In response to this from Robert:

The first 4 rules + #8, could be consolidated into "Don't be annoying", 

[Douglas Caddy]

There Will Be No Election If Things Keep Going the Way They’re Going”: After Predicting 2016, Michael Moore Fears Trump Will Mess With 2020

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/after-predicting-2016-michael-moore-fears-trump-will-mess-with-2020?fbclid=IwAR0aOcGTopEkq1ugAnI8RrHujS2Mkhk_DSzXMdkVcnGfCsQS9JWmlGGm8y4

[Cliff Varnell]

1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

There Will Be No Election If Things Keep Going the Way They’re Going”: After Predicting 2016, Michael Moore Fears Trump Will Mess With 2020

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/after-predicting-2016-michael-moore-fears-trump-will-mess-with-2020?fbclid=IwAR0aOcGTopEkq1ugAnI8RrHujS2Mkhk_DSzXMdkVcnGfCsQS9JWmlGGm8y4

Moore didn’t predict James Comey’s heavy interference 11 days before the election, without which Moore’s prediction of a Trump victory was headed to the ash heap.

[Ron Ecker]

There will be an election, but Trump with his loud denunciation of mail-in voting is laying the groundwork for making a major challenge to the results if he loses. It could be a real mess. Indeed turmoil over the election could be his one shot at autocracy.

 

 

Edited May 22, 2020 by Ron Ecker

[David Andrews]

52 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said:

There will be an election, but Trump with his loud denunciation of mail-in voting is laying the groundwork for making a major challenge to the results if he loses. It could be a real mess. Indeed turmoil over the election could be his one shot at autocracy.

 

 

I get the feeling that the whole thing is about Kushner and Ivanka now, plus whatever Daddy still owes the Russians.  It seems like Teflon Donald would just as soon say, "Been there," and go play elsewhere.  Still, his ego may yet achieve erection and demand a second term.

The good news: even though he's the Antichrist, Kushner will never be president after this.  But what if Daddums picked him as V-P for November?  ...November?...

Edited May 22, 2020 by David Andrews