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1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said:

The question I keep asking is how the heck did NATO and US , and Ukraine, let this happen? Western Press and governments were warning for months that Putin was going to invade. Russian troops on the border are not invisible. Why didn’t Ukraine and it’s allies put forces on the ground in the way of the key routes into Ukraine? A show of strength before the fact. 

Paul--

Thanks for your thoughtful and courteous reply. 

That is odd, what you have just pointed out. 

Indeed, pre-invasion, Zelensky seemed to think Putin would not invade. 

As I said, my estimation is the globalist community more-or-less partitioned Ukraine to Russia, it was not considered worth contesting. The multinationals can do business with Putin, they can do business with Xi. Biden has been a globalist tool for generations. 

Zelensky appears to have badly misjudged the situation, pre-invasion. We do not know if Zelensky was cleverly misled by Westerners or Putin agents, or both.  It is surprising Zelensky is the hero now, given his monumental failures pre-invasion. I surmise Zelensky is winning in the PR world as he is earnest and Putin is such an obvious villain. Even Zelensky's weaknesses seem like those of the everyman. 

But I agree, the result on the ground---a daily catastrophe for millions of Ukrainians---is a terrible failure for Nato, Ukraine and the Biden Administration. 

Gee, I wish a foremost tenet of US foreign policy was to prevent humanitarian disasters, whether natural or manmade. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Paul--

Thanks for your thoughtful and courteous reply. 

That is odd, what you have just pointed out. 

Indeed, pre-invasion, Zelensky seemed to think Putin would not invade. 

 

Hindsight is, obviously, 20-20-- even in myopic, pro-Putin, Trump Republican circles!

Did anyone predict that Putin would invade?

Even Jeff Carter, a guy with possible inside information, opined that Putin would not invade.

BTW, did Glenn Greenwald ever apologize for face-planting on Ukraine?

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7 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Hindsight is, obviously, 20-20-- even in myopic, pro-Putin, Trump Republican circles!

Did anyone predict that Putin would invade?

Even Jeff Carter, a guy with possible inside information, opined that Putin would not invade.

BTW, did Glenn Greenwald ever apologize for face-planting on Ukraine?

Biden warned for months, whether some of us wanted to believe otherwise isn’t the point. Did Zelensky say ‘don’t worry about it’? I don’t recall. I thought he was preparing to invade eastern Ukraine, still think that was his goal. Biden and NATO said repeatedly and still that they would not put troops on the ground. I’m not sure at this point why NATO isn’t willing to confront Russia more directly. Sanctions, weapons sales, both are types of warfare. Are we really concerned that if we go too far Putin will destroy life on earth? What’s the point of Detente if it doesn’t work? 
it’s hard to agree with Ben when he says that globalists ceded Ukraine. It is a fabulously wealthy country. I don’t expect they have bleeding hearts though. 

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6 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:

Biden warned for months, whether some of us wanted to believe otherwise isn’t the point. Did Zelensky say ‘don’t worry about it’? I don’t recall. I thought he was preparing to invade eastern Ukraine, still think that was his goal. Biden and NATO said repeatedly and still that they would not put troops on the ground. I’m not sure at this point why NATO isn’t willing to confront Russia more directly. Sanctions, weapons sales, both are types of warfare. Are we really concerned that if we go too far Putin will destroy life on earth? What’s the point of Detente if it doesn’t work? 
it’s hard to agree with Ben when he says that globalists ceded Ukraine. It is a fabulously wealthy country. I don’t expect they have bleeding hearts though. 

it’s hard to agree with Ben when he says that globalists ceded Ukraine. It is a fabulously wealthy country. I don’t expect they have bleeding hearts though. --Paul

Paul: While globalist community is knitted together though dozens of organizations, thousands of minions and media sycophants, and common financial incentives, it is not a cabal (AFIAK). 

In general, globalists have been fine doing business with Putin. So, they reckoned they can do business with Putin when he runs Ukraine.

Listen, the Apples, BlackRocks, GMs, Walmarts, Goldman Sachs, Teslas, the McDonalds are fine doing business with XI, who makes Putin look like Peter Pan. 

Biden's first reaction to Putin's threats was to signal the US would not contest Ukraine, and his second was to offer Zelensky refuge.

In short, Biden, a DC lifer and creature of lobbyists, invited Putin in and invited Zelensky out. That is the historical record. 

When anyone signals to a Putin they will not contest a fight, what does a Putin do? 

Ukraine may be a wealthy nation in some regards, such as farmland and culture, but it is hardly a manufacturing platform, and seems to have little oil wealth. 

"Ukraine is among the poorest countries in Europe and suffers from low life expectancy and widespread corruption"----Wikipedia. 

Ukraine does have wealth beyond measure---its people, who have a culture, a language, and a nation. And now, deepening resolve and pride.  

The Crimea is evidently heavily Russian, so perhaps Russia will hold onto that, and who knows about the Donbass. 

You think Apple cares? BlackRock? Tesla? GM? BankAmerica? Biden?

Sheesh, all those companies constructed huge PR platforms in favor of woke-ism, but none for Ukraine. 

Zelensky asked Nato for 1% of their armaments. And Nato said "no."

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Paul:The problem as I see it is that once Putin ordered Russian forces in and started killing people all discussions about NATO or any other compromising factors are put on the shelf. Chris and anyone else that points to NATO is now seen as exonerating Putin.
 
In general I agree with you Paul that the general population  has little interest in what happened decades leading up to this, which is unfortunate.  But here, we have a patriarchal figure who did a 4 hour largely pro Putin interview film and made a very pro Putin film preaching that the 2014 uprising in Ukraine was the work of Nazis and we have a disciple in Jim whose been pretty much in lockstep and of course regular weigh ins by Jeff. If we're really listening to each other, there's been lots of opportunity here. I like to think I listen and I've learned a lot. Very little Chris has said is new to me though I might check into a few of his facts. I've said on a number of occasions that the U.S. had an excellent opportunity 30 years ago to take Russia under it's wing and ensure this subsequently would never have happened. It just seemed when we were no longer competing with them we just sort of grew tired and bored of them and dismissed them because that's who we are, unfortunately.
 
But now having said that,  to me we've missed the boat as far as any peaceful solution that won't in essence give Putin a victory even though he's badly botched this invasion. The  main question I'm asking myself is are we really doing all we can to supply  the Ukrainians to obliterate their occupiers to kingdom come?             heh heh
People are very impatient with sanctions, but to me , they have been much more successful than I ever would have thought. I don't think people realize , Bringing all the nato countries interests together is a Herculean task.
 
You can't help but feel compassion for all their suffering and respect for their bravery.You're certainly lead by our media reports to ask the questions, "are the Russian conventional forces just posers?" Would anything above giving billions in arms to Ukraine just exacerbate a natural Russian tendency to unite behind their autocrat strong man,much more WW3? 
 
Of course we have to remember that in the first Persian Gulf War, even though it wasn't as pinpoint accurate as we were first told. The U.S. guided weapons systems revolutionized modern warfare in Iraq. Then after the war, there was a lot of shameless banter that Bush should have finished the job and take Baghdad and institute regime change. And if that wasn't bad enough. Later there was even crying that George Bush was now gone and Sadamm Hussein had outlasted him. ??? Then later on, his son gets elected and tries to avenge his daddy and look what happened? It's true. it's not exactly the same. But we have to be aware, we're not getting a 100% accurate idea of what's going on on the ground there. Don't get too cocky!
 
 
My intuition which really means nothing is that this is a critical period to strongly refortify the Ukrainians as it might provide greater sustaining power in the long run. However it seems to me Putin will go to great lengths to not let the Ukrainians recapture the east. Including maybe missiles and WW3 if his back is to the wall. The only real victory would be if the Russian people overthrew Putin. But what possibility is there of that, 10%?, 20%, 30% 40%? It wouldn't  be immediate. Is there hope of refortifying the Ukrainians in a longer range war where that could happen before the Ukrainian resistance  finally has to throw in the towel?
 
 
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Lack of convictions in Whitmer kidnap trial followed year of scandal, warning signs

 

Grand Rapids — The largest domestic terrorism trial in recent U.S. history ended with no convictions Friday, delivering a blow to a case about a kidnapping plot targeting Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that has been dogged by controversy, scandal and the intense focus of a nation grappling with the rise of violent extremism.

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Has there really been a "rise of violent extremism" in the US?

I am offshore. When I read old neighborhood blogs (in L.A.), they reference plain vanilla crime, a lot of it and rising, but not politically motivated.  My old neighborhood NextDoor page looks like a crime blotter. 

Is it possible the government is instigating a few highly publicized "violent extremist" acts in order to justify a larger security state? 

When should we be skeptical of government security programs, and when are they worthy? 

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3 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Lack of convictions in Whitmer kidnap trial followed year of scandal, warning signs

 

Grand Rapids — The largest domestic terrorism trial in recent U.S. history ended with no convictions Friday, delivering a blow to a case about a kidnapping plot targeting Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that has been dogged by controversy, scandal and the intense focus of a nation grappling with the rise of violent extremism.

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Has there really been a "rise of violent extremism" in the US?

I am offshore. When I read old neighborhood blogs (in L.A.), they reference plain vanilla crime, a lot of it and rising, but not politically motivated.  My old neighborhood NextDoor page looks like a crime blotter. 

Is it possible the government is instigating a few highly publicized "violent extremist" acts in order to justify a larger security state? 

When should we be skeptical of government security programs, and when are they worthy? 

I think it is possible that this attempt against the governor was aided and abetted by government agents. I don’t think I would use the same yardstick for Jan 6 because we have Trump himself aiding and abetting it.

Kirk - I listened to a long interview with Oliver Stone in which he essentially recounted his life story. To me he is an American hero, and so I don’t dismiss anything he does or reports on. The 2014 coup was a mix of Ukrainian citizens frustrated with their leader’s decision not to take a deal offered by the European Union, favoring a Russian deal instead, covert operators, and the fascist elements in Ukraine, which are real. Let’s not dismiss that, or confuse analysis of the Coup with somehow excusing Putin’s bloody invasion. Today’s CIA is far more sophisticated, has been since they went through the Congressional investigations of the 1970’s and decided they would not accept Democratic meddling. We almost never see headlines or stories about CIA activities, proof that they have succeeded in this. What do we think? Are they no longer operative? Or just a heck of a lot sneakier? Can we seriously doubt that our mainstream media is more controlled than ever? The censorship of alternative voices is very real and very extreme. 

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4 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Lack of convictions in Whitmer kidnap trial followed year of scandal, warning signs

 

Grand Rapids — The largest domestic terrorism trial in recent U.S. history ended with no convictions Friday, delivering a blow to a case about a kidnapping plot targeting Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer that has been dogged by controversy, scandal and the intense focus of a nation grappling with the rise of violent extremism.

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Has there really been a "rise of violent extremism" in the US?

I am offshore. When I read old neighborhood blogs (in L.A.), they reference plain vanilla crime, a lot of it and rising, but not politically motivated.  My old neighborhood NextDoor page looks like a crime blotter. 

Is it possible the government is instigating a few highly publicized "violent extremist" acts in order to justify a larger security state? 

When should we be skeptical of government security programs, and when are they worthy? 

Ben,

     You seem to be drawing precisely the wrong conclusions about this case, and seem to lack awareness of the facts about the more general issue of right wing domestic terrorism in the U.S.

     Are you aware that two of the ring leaders in the Whitmer kidnapping plot already entered guilty pleas?

     Meanwhile, it sounds like these recent acquittals were based on the premature timing of the FBI arrests, questions about FBI entrapment, and a lack of unanimity in the juries about the specificity of the plots.  But the kidnappers clearly discussed plans to abduct and murder a U.S. governor-- in retaliation for her COVID public health mandates!  Trump openly encouraged this kind of loony resistance at the time.

     As for the broader issue of the rise of right wing domestic terrorism in the U.S., it is real, and serious.  Are you familiar with the cases of Cesar Sayoc, the Coast Guard bomber, and the numerous right wing provocateurs who set fires and attacked police while posing as George Floyd protesters?  Like the Whitmer kidnap conspirators, their goal was to foment a civil war. 

     I'm re-printing a year-old article on the subject for WaPo non-subscribers.*

     Did you happen to hear in your "news" sources about the recent four year prison sentence for Lonnie Coffman, the Alabama Trumplican who brought homemade napalm bombs to the U.S. Capitol on January 6th?

*The rise of white domestic terrorism in America

Data shows a surge in homegrown attacks not seen in a quarter-century
www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2021/domestic-terrorism-data/?itid=hp_mr_1


April 12, 2021

Domestic terrorism incidents have soared to new highs in the United States, driven chiefly by white-supremacist, anti-Muslim and anti-government extremists on the far right, according to a Washington Post analysis of data compiled by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

The surge reflects a growing threat from homegrown terrorism not seen in a quarter-century, with right-wing extremist attacks and plots greatly eclipsing those from the far left and causing more deaths, the analysis shows.

The number of all domestic terrorism incidents in the data peaked in 2020.

Since 2015, right-wing extremists have been involved in 267 plots or attacks and 91 fatalities, the data shows. At the same time, attacks and plots ascribed to far-left views accounted for 66 incidents leading to 19 deaths.

“What is most concerning is that the number of domestic terror plots and attacks are at the highest they have been in decades,” said Seth Jones, director of the database project at CSIS, a nonpartisan Washington-based nonprofit that specializes in national security issues. “It’s so important for Americans to understand the gravity of the threat before it gets worse.”

More than a quarter of right-wing incidents and just under half of the deaths in those incidents were caused by people who showed support for white supremacy or claimed to belong to groups espousing that ideology, the analysis shows.

Victims of all incidents in recent years represent a broad cross-section of American society, including Blacks, Jews, immigrants, LGBTQ individuals, Asians and other people of color who have been attacked by right-wing extremists wielding vehicles, guns, knives and fists.

Dozens of religious institutions — including mosques, synagogues and Black churches — as well as abortion clinics and government buildings, have been threatened, burned, bombed and hit with gunfire over the past six years.

Kenneth Robinson, pastor of Briar Creek Road Baptist Church in Charlotte — one of several predominantly Black churches attacked in the spring and summer of 2015 — said some members remain apprehensive.

“Trauma is a way of life for us,” Robinson said. “So we grieve, but we keep pushing forward.”

Both far-left and far-right attacks hit groundbreaking levels in 2020, the database shows, with far-right incidents still the much larger group.

The 73 far-right incidents were an all-time annual high in the CSIS database, which goes back to 1994.

Left-wing attacks reached 25 in 2020. Those incidents include multiple attempts by extremists to derail trains to hinder oil pipeline construction and at least seven incidents in which police and their facilities were targeted with guns, firebombs and graffiti. The incidents included the burning of a Minneapolis police precinct during protests over the death of George Floyd.

In August, a supporter of President Donald Trump was shot dead in Portland, Ore., by a suspected gunman who was a self-described antifa supporter. That killing was the only death last year attributed to far-left violence, the data shows. There were two deaths attributed to far-right attacks.

The Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol spurred renewed national attention on domestic terrorism and on hate-driven violence.

The Post focused its analysis primarily on far-right attacks since 2015 because they account for a clear majority of the rising domestic terrorism events and fatalities charted by the CSIS.

The far-right incidents last year broke into distinct waves emerging amid government shutdowns in the spring, widespread racial demonstrations in the summer and confrontations over the presidential election results in the late fall, The Post’s review of the CSIS data shows.

The CSIS database is one of the best public sources of information about domestic terrorism incidents, which the group’s analysts define as attacks or plots involving a deliberate use or threat of violence to achieve political goals, create a broad psychological impact or change government policy. That definition excludes many violent events, including incidents during nationwide unrest last year, because CSIS analysts could not determine whether attackers had a political or ideological motive.

Data released by the CSIS on Monday includes the Jan. 6 breach of the Capitol as one of 11 far-right terrorism incidents that month — the most for any January in the database. The new report highlights more involvement in far-right attacks and plots by military service members, veterans and current and former police officers, some of whom participated in the riot at the Capitol.

Following the Capitol incident, FBI Director Christopher A. Wray told federal lawmakers that confronting domestic terrorism is a top national security priority of the agency.

Nearly every state has seen at least one domestic terrorist attack or plot in recent years, The Post’s analysis of the database shows, a notable expansion of the communities afflicted by terrorism over prior decades.

“January 6 was not an isolated event,” Wray told the Senate Judiciary Committee on March 2. “The problem of domestic terrorism has been metastasizing across the country for a long time now and it’s not going away anytime soon.”

Domestic terrorism data

The database includes 980 incidents since 1994, the first year in the CSIS records.

Incidents do not have to be adjudicated in the court system to be included. Dozens of incidents have no identified perpetrator but have details about the attacks, including evidence of motive and the target that led to the case being categorized in the database.

The attacks and plots on U.S. soil are bucketed as far right, far left, religious or “ethnonationalist,” which supports nationalist goals that often include dividing society along ethnic lines. Under the CSIS system, the attacks on 9/11 are in the religious category because the perpetrators were Islamist terrorists.

The data shows that far-right attacks diminished following a federal crackdown in response to the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995. In the attack, Timothy McVeigh detonated a truck bomb outside a federal building, killing 168 people. It remains the deadliest homegrown terrorist attack in American history.

Right-wing extremism began gathering fresh momentum after the election of Barack Obama, the nation’s first Black president, according to an April 2009 Department of Homeland Security intelligence assessment. “Right-wing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda,” the assessment said.

Some attacks do not have an easily discerned motive or a single ideological thread. To refine the types of extremism involved in each case, The Post compiled court records, social media postings, news accounts and other material from local, state and federal law enforcement authorities.

For example, the extended review enabled the The Post to determine that at least 15 attacks or plots involved predominantly Black churches over the past six years. One of them was New Shiloh Christian Center in Melbourne, Fla. Three times in early 2015 fires were set at the church and cars vandalized. No suspect was caught.

Some members left the congregation and others remain fearful, said New Shiloh Bishop Jacquelyn Gordon.

“We all felt threatened,” she said. “I’m always on high alert, because I had no idea who did this.”

Over the past six years, 16 mosques and 13 synagogues also were attacked or threatened by extremists on the far right, The Post’s analysis of the database found.

One of those, Anshe Sholom B’nai Israel in Chicago, was hit with molotov cocktails in 2019. The perpetrators remain unidentified.

Rabbi David Wolkenfeld said worshipers began to fret about security even as they gave thanks that the building was not destroyed.

“It’s really hard. Shocking, shocking to see,” he said. “I’m at a loss when I think about that. Violence toward innocent people is just something I can’t get my head around.”

Pastor Ernest Richards said he had the same sense of disbelief as he watched his church burning in July 2018, an incident that the CSIS includes as a far-left attack. The attackers set the church in Vale, N.C., afire and spray-painted the words “ANTI-GAY HATE GROUP” on a wall, apparently thinking it was a church with a similar name where a pastor was critical of homosexuality. A suspect was never identified.

“I was just angry at a person who could do this,” said Richards, 88, who no longer leads the church. “My anger turned into a state of pity. How can you do that?”

‘Just because they’re mad’

Members of militias and other extremist groups — such as the KKK, Aryan Cowboys and the Base — had roles in at least 67 attacks since 2015, according to The Post’s examination.

But a large majority of perpetrators appear from the data to be operating independently, a defining characteristic of many recent attacks, counterterrorism researchers have said. Some of those loners are prolific users of social media out of which they assemble a jumble of personal beliefs or ideologies, researchers said.

The beliefs have included a tangle of white supremacy, antisemitism, misogyny, homophobia and a host of baseless and debunked claims.

One of the prevailing theories among far-right conservatives is about a “Great Replacement,” the belief that the White race is being replaced by people of color, according to a nationally representative survey of 1,000 American adults last month by the Chicago Project on Security and Threats at the University of Chicago.

The Post’s review of the database found 30 attacks or plots attributed to right-wing violence against Black Lives Matter since 2015, a large majority of them last year.

Perpetrators beat BLM activists in the streets and attacked them with mace, knives, guns or explosives, records show. Right-wing extremists used their vehicles as weapons against activists, plowing into crowds of racial justice demonstrators on at least nine occasions over the past six years, according to The Post’s analysis.

Businesses affiliated with racial justice protests were vandalized and torched, among them a Black-owned coffee shop in Shoreline, Wash. It was pelted with molotov cocktails after midnight on Sept. 30 last year.

Darnesha Weary, co-owner of Black Coffee Northwest and a Black Lives Matter coordinator in Shoreline, said the shop later was vandalized with neo-poopoo graffiti. Weary expressed outrage about the attacks and the fact that no one has been caught.

“No one should feel like they have the audacity to go try and burn someone’s building,” she said. “And just because they’re mad.”

Social media and terrorism

Bruce Hoffman, a professor and counter-terrorism specialist at Georgetown University, said extremists have exploited social media and the Internet in recent years to share theories, along with grievances, tactics and potential targets.

“It’s the propellant,” Hoffman said about social media. “That’s what’s giving the reach.”

From 2015 to 2020, the use of websites or social media such as Facebook and encrypted chat services by right-wing extremists rose in five of the six years, The Post’s analysis found.

The Post review included a case if the social media engagement was mentioned by investigators in incidents or cited in news accounts.

The trend peaked in 2020, with 24 incidents that The Post could identify. That represents about one out of five incidents of right-wing violence in that year.

Extremists who lurk online and are unaffiliated with a group pose special challenges for law enforcement because they leave few clues about their intentions and targets, counterterrorism officials and researchers said in interviews.

“Social media has afforded absolutely everything that’s bad out there in the world the ability to come inside your home,” one federal counterterrorism official told The Post, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss law enforcement matters. “And so that makes it hard for law enforcement to see potential tripwires and indicators.”

Among the extremists drawing inspiration online was Taylor Michael Wilson, a 26-year-old from Missouri. Before and after Wilson attended a deadly 2017 right-wing rally in Charlottesville, he immersed himself in right-wing propaganda, court records showed later.

On Oct. 22, 2017, Wilson slipped into the engine compartment of an Amtrak train and pulled the brakes in a remote stretch of Nebraska. At the time, he was carrying a .38-caliber handgun, ammunition speed-loaders and a knife. He also had with him a business card for the neo-poopoo National Socialist Movement, court records show.

After a struggle, a train conductor pinned him down until authorities arrived. Wilson later told a deputy: “I was going to save the train from the black people,” records state.

Federal authorities later confiscated more than a dozen firearms, including an automatic rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, tactical gear and white-supremacist literature, documents show. A roommate told investigators Wilson joined a neo-poopoo group after meeting members online. Wilson expressed interest in “killing black people,” court records show.

Wilson pleaded guilty in 2018 to a count of terrorism attacks and other violence against railroad carriers and mass transportation systems. He was sentenced to 14 years in federal prison.

Growing threats


Attacks on immigrants have been recurring in recent years. So have attacks on people of color assumed to be immigrants or Muslim, according to statements by perpetrators during the episodes as recounted by the victims.

There have been 15 anti-immigrant-related incidents since 2015, resulting in 27 fatalities and dozens of injuries, a review of the CSIS cases shows. Some of those attacks drew national attention, including an Aug. 3, 2019, massacre at a Walmart in El Paso, by a gunman who authorities say posted a manifesto railing against a “Hispanic invasion” of Texas. The shootings left 23 people, including eight Mexican nationals, dead and two dozen others wounded.

But there also were local incidents, such as the shootings in Wisconsin by now-convicted killer Dan J. Popp of his neighbors. On March 6, 2016, Popp, then 39, approached a father and son in the hallway of the apartment complex where he lived, court records show. Popp demanded to know where they were from.

When they told him they were from Puerto Rico, Popp said, “Oh, that’s why you don’t speak English.”

Popp retrieved a rifle from his room, told them, “You guys got to go,” and shot dead Jesus R. Manso-Perez, 40. He kicked down the door to another unit that belonged to a Hmong family. Popp found them hiding in a bedroom and killed Phia Vue, 36, and Mai Vue, 32.

During his trial for homicide, a jury rejected a claim by Popp that he was insane. A judge sentenced him in February 2018 to life in prison.

Among emerging trends is the number of military service members and veterans involved in attacks and plots in recent years.

The Post found 36 instances in the CSIS data from 2015 through January 2021, including the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

In that incident alone, more than 40 people charged with conspiracy and other crimes had served in the military, according to another, separate Post analysis of arrests related to the riot. More than a dozen were current or former law enforcement officers, including police and corrections officers.

Police officers, government officials and politicians also were targets in 2020 in at least 15 right-wing domestic terrorism attacks or plots, a review of the CSIS data shows.

In Monday’s CSIS report, the security group warned that right-wing extremists are increasingly attempting to recruit military service members and veterans.

The report, titled “The Military, Police, and the Rise of Terrorism in the United States,” cited a Department of Defense report sent to the House and Senate Armed Services Committees last month. That report said that DOD “is facing a threat from domestic extremists (DE), particularly those who espouse white supremacy or white nationalist ideologies.”

One of the right-wing terrorism incidents in 2020 involved Navy veteran Timothy Wilson, 36. He had been planning for months to commit some kind of attack that was based on his hatred of Black people, Jewish people, the federal government, refugees and other potential targets, according to a federal affidavit.

Wilson, a father of four who worked for a time at a charitable organization after his Navy stint, communicated with other extremists through an encrypted chat app, the affidavit shows. He shared bombmaking techniques, boasted about his arsenal of guns and ammunition, and talked about recruiting potential collaborators, according to the affidavit.

His contacts included Jarrett William Smith, a 24-year-old Army infantry soldier stationed at Fort Riley, Kan., who offered information online about how to make improvised explosive devices, according to federal investigators. On Facebook, Smith wrote about traveling to Ukraine to fight with a far-right paramilitary group, investigators said.

Smith was arrested and in February 2020 pleaded guilty to unlawfully distributing instructions for making explosive devices. He was sentenced in August to 30 months in prison.

For his part, Wilson began meeting an undercover FBI agent who was posing as an extremist collaborator. Wilson plotted to bomb a public building, and in March 2020, as coronavirus shutdowns were taking hold, Wilson decided to accelerate his plans and blow up a hospital treating covid-19 patients, according to investigators.

Wilson accepted an offer from an undercover agent of a truck he was told contained explosives. When authorities tried to take him into custody, Wilson fatally shot himself.

In congressional hearings in recent years, counterterrorism specialists and other witnesses told lawmakers the federal government needs more data on domestic terrorism to understand how to address the rising violence.


“Any expert is going to tell you that this is the most serious security threat to the American people today,” said Rep. Jamie B. Raskin (D-Md.), who held oversight hearings in 2019 that questioned the federal response to rising white-supremacist violence. “And yet we don’t have any good description of the magnitude and the dimensions of the problem.”

    

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CHEAT SHEET: The United States of America is the OLDEST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC IN THE WORLD. The AMERICAN PEOPLE are SOVEREIGN. This means they are in CONTROL. The AMERICAN People~NOT the people they elect are in CONTROL. ELECTED OFFICIALS are granted TEMPORARY LAWFUL AUTHORITY to Write, Execute and Interpret the law within a system of Government that is Co-equal, Federal and based on the following principles. 1. The Powers of Government are proscribed. 2. The powers of Government are limited.

The Rights of the Individual exist beyond the power of Government to interfere with. Today, we recognize ALL MEN are CREATED EQUAL as ALL PEOPLE are CREATED EQUAL. A Presidents SON has no standing in this land. He hold no TITLE and no HONORS . He is simply a citizen. NO MORE and NO LESS than any other CITIZEN.

He has no authority, no special privilege. HE CONTROLS NOTHING. The FACT that @DonaldJTrumpJr jr speaks like that shows his malice and autocratic heart. He speaks in the language of political violence. It is the language of PUTIN. American Presidents and their sons control nothing. Presidents SERVE the PEOPLE of AMERICA.

Election to the Office of President of the United States of America is the highest honor the collective Citizenry can bestow on a fellow citizen. It is a sacred trust. The President is a trustee of the idea of America. Trump jr showed in real time how much Trump, his aides and family hate that idea. These people must never hold any position of power or public responsibility ever again. Disgrace doesn’t begin to describe it. What they did is unforgivable in this country within the span of mortal life.

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38 minutes ago, Steve Thomas said:

Steve Schmidt

@SteveSchmidtSES

https://twitter.com/SteveSchmidtSES/status/1512848400278036486

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CHEAT SHEET: The United States of America is the OLDEST CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC IN THE WORLD. The AMERICAN PEOPLE are SOVEREIGN. This means they are in CONTROL. The AMERICAN People~NOT the people they elect are in CONTROL. ELECTED OFFICIALS are granted TEMPORARY LAWFUL AUTHORITY to Write, Execute and Interpret the law within a system of Government that is Co-equal, Federal and based on the following principles. 1. The Powers of Government are proscribed. 2. The powers of Government are limited.

The Rights of the Individual exist beyond the power of Government to interfere with. Today, we recognize ALL MEN are CREATED EQUAL as ALL PEOPLE are CREATED EQUAL. A Presidents SON has no standing in this land. He hold no TITLE and no HONORS . He is simply a citizen. NO MORE and NO LESS than any other CITIZEN.

He has no authority, no special privilege. HE CONTROLS NOTHING. The FACT that @DonaldJTrumpJr jr speaks like that shows his malice and autocratic heart. He speaks in the language of political violence. It is the language of PUTIN. American Presidents and their sons control nothing. Presidents SERVE the PEOPLE of AMERICA.

Election to the Office of President of the United States of America is the highest honor the collective Citizenry can bestow on a fellow citizen. It is a sacred trust. The President is a trustee of the idea of America. Trump jr showed in real time how much Trump, his aides and family hate that idea. These people must never hold any position of power or public responsibility ever again. Disgrace doesn’t begin to describe it. What they did is unforgivable in this country within the span of mortal life.

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Steve Thomas

Nice - it’s supposed to work that way. But does it? Is our elected government really running the show? Do you feel like your voice matters? Trump is and was a disaster, right wing terrorism is real and an ongoing danger. But Biden and the Democratic Party in general are also an ongoing danger in my opinion. When Jim D spoke out here against the censorship of Donald Trump, pointing out the slippery slope between that censorship and the censoring of other alternative voices he was right. Of course censorship of alternative voices in mainstream media is nothing new, but it continues to get worse. Think Assange, Greenwald, Scheer, Nairn, Moyers, Hedges, Rogan, many others. Is Rachel Maddow truth, and Tucker Carlson lies? Nope. Politics of division, coming from both sides, keeping the average citizen down, too busy or too poor to exercise their franchise. 

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