Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: The secret part is not identifying themselves to citizens as federal agents. Just beating them with batons, pepper spraying them or throwing them in rented mini vans to haul them off with out stating charges or reading them their rights. Downright scary. Storm Troopers. Freedom of speech, right to assemble be damned. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-protests-a-navy-veteran-had-a-question-for-the-feds-they-beat-him-in-response/ar-BB16YxUD?li=BBnb7Kz And the prez is ready to send them to your city if it's run by "liberal Democrats." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signals-he-will-send-federal-agents-to-major-cities/ar-BB16YpSe?li=BBnb7Kz This is really disturbing. They Mayor and Governor want the federal agents to leave. They believe the fed's are causing violence. This may well lead to retaliation from protesters turning the protests into riots. Maybe just what the idiot in charge wants so he can send in more storm troopers to restore law and order and rally the right behind him in the name of patriotisim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stevens Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: Governor's Murphy and Cuomo are threatening to quarantine for 14 days anyone who comes in from an unapproved state. Yet Trump is the Nazi. Do you hear yourself? Having to stay home for 2 weeks makes someone a Nazi. You know, because having to stay home for 2 weeks so as to maybe not give someone a potentially life threatening illness is almost the same as being forced into a concentration camp and murdered. Quote Shiny side out on your tin-foil hats guys. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: The secret part is not identifying themselves to citizens as federal agents. Just beating them with batons, pepper spraying them or throwing them in rented mini vans to haul them off with out stating charges or reading them their rights. Downright scary. Storm Troopers. Freedom of speech, right to assemble be damned. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-protests-a-navy-veteran-had-a-question-for-the-feds-they-beat-him-in-response/ar-BB16YxUD?li=BBnb7Kz And the prez is ready to send them to your city if it's run by "liberal Democrats." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signals-he-will-send-federal-agents-to-major-cities/ar-BB16YpSe?li=BBnb7Kz https://time.com/5869220/navy-vet-federal-agents-portland-protests/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: Stay home Mark. Quarantines are for sick people. Trump-thinkers can’t wrap their heads around the fact that quarantines are also for people who might be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: It is fun and games. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8540715/Portland-mayor-orders-marked-federal-police-city.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: The secret part is not identifying themselves to citizens as federal agents. Just beating them with batons, pepper spraying them or throwing them in rented mini vans to haul them off with out stating charges or reading them their rights. Downright scary. Storm Troopers. Freedom of speech, right to assemble be damned. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-protests-a-navy-veteran-had-a-question-for-the-feds-they-beat-him-in-response/ar-BB16YxUD?li=BBnb7Kz And the prez is ready to send them to your city if it's run by "liberal Democrats." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signals-he-will-send-federal-agents-to-major-cities/ar-BB16YpSe?li=BBnb7Kz If you read these articles and are not concerned, I don't know what to say. I'm incredulous myself regarding what's happening, what's being said by the president. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/trump-administration-deploying-secret-police-against-protesters-in-portland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 14 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: If I am an um-empathetic "deplorable" for not taking the plandemic seriously, Mainly because you have declared war then cry when Antifa shoots back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: The secret part is not identifying themselves to citizens as federal agents. Just beating them with batons, pepper spraying them or throwing them in rented mini vans to haul them off with out stating charges or reading them their rights. Downright scary. Storm Troopers. Freedom of speech, right to assemble be damned. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/portland-protests-a-navy-veteran-had-a-question-for-the-feds-they-beat-him-in-response/ar-BB16YxUD?li=BBnb7Kz And the prez is ready to send them to your city if it's run by "liberal Democrats." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signals-he-will-send-federal-agents-to-major-cities/ar-BB16YpSe?li=BBnb7Kz This one is concise for anyone not really paying attention. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=portland+protests&docid=13821310612935&mid=8CAB889E70690AA745078CAB889E70690AA74507&view=detail&FORM=VIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: There is only one Trump supporter here Bob. That would be me. There are like 9 on your side, like the Minnesota Twins. Not true. The other Trump supporters choose not to make fools of themselves. Edited July 21, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: I started listening to this guys podcast a month ago. He is one of those super-genius mathematicians that is working on his own grand unified theory on how the universe works. He is mostly politically liberal but that’s not why I listen. I like how he explains his physics theories and how they relate to competing theories. I’m sure someone here will give a thoughtful critique of his problems with string theory just so you can call him a mind numbed deplorable who can’t possibly be qualified to opine on Biden’s dementia. “We won two beautiful world wars” — Donald Trump 7/19/20. Edited July 21, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: There is only one Trump supporter here Bob. That would be me. There are like 9 on your side, like the Minnesota Twins. You're forgetting the DH. Ten, at least while at bat. 1 hour ago, Robert Wheeler said: Broward County orders that you must wear a mask IN YOUR HOME!! If I am an um-empathetic "deplorable" for not taking the plandemic seriously, then this is reason #498 why. Maybe because Republican larvae have been hosting COVID parties at Air BnB rentals and their houses to see who can get sick. They of course will bitch about curfews and lock downs. I hope many suffocate to death upside down while being passed over in triage. Maybe their family members could be allowed in without masks (hypoxia don't you know) to clean their diapers for a month and a half! Good idea! Plandemic. Right. I'm sure there's a clue store near you somewhere. Go buy one. Maybe on the way you can find a blue UV wand which I'm told by Trump can be used to kill the virus. You just put it where there is no sunlight. Chase it with Clorox or maybe Lysol! Your choice! Edited July 21, 2020 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) BTW, I have to add something to this. I have no intention of voting for Trump, I mean even if you waterboarded me. Since I live in California I will vote Green as I always do, since its a a safe state. I mean the GOP does not even try their voter suppression tactics here. But I would advise everyone that Biden has some serious problems as a candidate. And its wiser to face up to them now than later so we do not repeat 2016. Trump won that year because he eked out very narrow wins in certain Rust Belt states. Plus HRC got wiped out in the south. Biden has a serious problem with minority voters because he backed both crime bills, the Reagan one and the Clinton one. IMO they were both barbaric. And they eventually gave us the movement to run Democratic candidates for DA who would be against them. They were that bad. To say that he backed them is not accurate. Biden CHAMPIONED those bills. Biden essentially was the spear carrier for those bills. He wanted to show that somehow the Dems were not soft on crime, which the GOP had pilloried them for years as being so. In other words, he put people in prison for years, sometimes decades, on a law code that many would consider not just unjust but unfair. And he did this for purely political reasons. Now unlike with HRC, Trump has an advantage over Biden right now in fund raising. He signed a crime bill that lessened some of the barbarities that Biden favored. He is now running ads in those rust belt, battleground states on this particular issue. There are four months until the election. All I am saying is this: don't count your chickens yet. If so you might have another 2016 nightmare. Edited July 21, 2020 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: https://time.com/5869220/navy-vet-federal-agents-portland-protests/ Bump. Posts get buried quick here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said: This one is concise for anyone not really paying attention. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=portland+protests&docid=13821310612935&mid=8CAB889E70690AA745078CAB889E70690AA74507&view=detail&FORM=VIRE https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-agents-in-unmarked-cars-wall-of-moms-heres-whats-happening-in-portland/ar-BB16Yl6V?li=BBnb7Kz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 42 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: BTW, I have to add something to this. I have no intention of voting for Trump, I mean even if you waterboarded me. But Mr. DiEugenio has had no problem overlooking 95% of Trump/Putin Fascism for the last 5+ years. How long did it take for Kennedys & King to denounce Trump's racist agenda? Five years? Quote Since I live in California I will vote Green as I always do, since its a a safe state. I mean the GOP does not even try their voter suppression tactics here. Trump is going to claim the election is rigged, therefore the bigger the popular vote the harder it will be on Trump. DiEugenio commonly makes a false equivalence between Democrats and Republicans, which is why he attacks Dems on a regular basis. Especially Barack Obama and Kamala Harris. Quote But I would advise everyone that Biden has some serious problems as a candidate. And its wiser to face up to them now than later so we do not repeat 2016. Face up now? Oh yes, inform us all, Mr. DiEugenio, about Joe Biden's well known faults. Without you how would we know? Quote Trump won that year because he eked out very narrow wins in certain Rust Belt states. Plus HRC got wiped out in the south. Hillary was subjected to an unprecedented voter suppression campaign which involved disenfranchising 16 million voters, the intercession of James Comey and the phony FBI email re-investigation, and the Putin/Stone/Assange hack of the DNC. Quote Biden has a serious problem with minority voters because he backed both crime bills, the Reagan one and the Clinton one. And yet Trump is running ads accusing Biden of being soft on crime. The Trump campaign ran one (1) ad lashing Biden for his Crime Bill vote, but the gales of ridicule this tact generated killed it. Quote IMO they were both barbaric. And they eventually gave us the movement to run Democratic candidates for DA who would be against them. They were that bad. To say that he backed them is not accurate. Biden CHAMPIONED those bills. Biden essentially was the spear carrier for those bills. He wanted to show that somehow the Dems were not soft on crime, which the GOP had pilloried them for years as being so. In other words, he put people in prison for years, sometimes decades, on a law code that many would consider not just unjust but unfair. And he did this for purely political reasons. DiEugenio has far more heat for Biden's record on race than he does for Trump's record on race. Quote Now unlike with HRC, Trump has an advantage over Biden right now in fund raising. No, he doesn't. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/16/us/politics/joe-biden-fund-raising.html Quote He signed a crime bill that lessened some of the barbarities that Biden favored. He is now running ads in those rust belt, battleground states on this particular issue. There are four months until the election. It's one of the most inept Prez campaigns of all time. https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-joe-biden-defund-the-police-crime-law-enforcement-2020-election/ Trump sez Biden too soft and too tough on crime. Both. At the same time. Quote All I am saying is this: don't count your chickens yet. If so you might have another 2016 nightmare. In 2020 we face a new form of Fascist government. Those who stand against the Moron Dictator are on the side of the angels. Vote 3rd party and you sit out the great battle of our lifetime. So noted. Edited July 21, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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