Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion

[Gerry Down]

11 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Without pushing up on the jacket collar?

Multiple inches of shirt and jacket occupied the same physical space as the jacket collar?

You can't demonstrate such a phenomenon -- it's contrary to the nature of reality.

It can happen. JFKs back was wedged against the back seat causing the shirt and jacket to rise, and stay rose, when JFK lifted his arm to wave to the crowd 

[Cliff Varnell]

8 minutes ago, Gerry Down said:

It can happen.

Von Pein at least has the honesty to observe the jacket collar dropping, and the jacket elevated only "a little bit."

8 minutes ago, Gerry Down said:

 

JFKs back was wedged against the back seat causing the shirt and jacket to rise, and stay rose, when JFK lifted his arm to wave to the crowd 

How could that fail to push up on the jacket collar?

[Cliff Varnell]

Let me help you out, Gerry.

WEDGE

verb

fix in position using a wedge.

"the door was wedged open"

 

Your claim that JFK's clothing rose when wedged is self-contradictory.

[Michael Griffith]

On 7/15/2024 at 7:27 AM, Gerry Down said:

The recent assassination attempt by Crooks on former president Trump provides an interesting opportunity for comparison between him and Lee Harvey Oswald.  

Some comparisons of note include:

• LHO was young (24). TMC was young (20).
• LHO was a loner. TMC was a loner.
• LHO was bullied (in school, and the marines). TMC was bullied (in school).
• LHO was intelligent (read a lot of books). TMC was intelligent (won a school math aware).
• LHO enjoyed playing chess. TMC enjoyed playing chess.
• LHO was involved in debates (on the radio in N.O.). TMC was involved in debates (school debates). 
• LHO in his teens was interested in military service. TMC in his teens, according to a former classmate, was interested in military service.
• LHO wore camouflage (in the marines). TMC wore camouflage to school.
• LHO liked guns (as confirmed by Adrian Alba in N.O.). TMC liked guns.
• LHO was interesting in bomb making. TMC was interested in bomb making.
• LHO involved himself in contradictory positions (FPCC & DRE). TMC involved himself in contradictory positions (registered Republican & donating to Democratic causes).
• LHO shot at his target from a distance. TMC shot at his target from a distance.
• LHO used an unsuitable assassination rifle (an old bolt action rifle). TMC used an unsuitable assassination rifle (AR-15, not suitable for long distance).
• LHO put other peoples lives at risk during his assassination attempt (Gov. Connally, Mrs. Kennedy). TMC put other peoples lives at risk during his assassination attempt (Corey Comperatore, James Copenhaver, David Dutch). 
• LHO shot a law enforcement officer (officer Tippit). TMC threatened to shoot a law enforcement officer (seconds before shooting at Trump).
• LHO had no obvious motive. TMC had no obvious motive (as of yet anyway).  
• LHO had no criminal record. TMC had no criminal record. 

This is 2024, right? I'm just wondering because I can't believe anyone is still assuming a priori that Oswald fired at Kennedy, when we have compelling evidence that he was not even on the sixth floor during the shooting. Also, several of these parallels don't hold up.

[Cliff Varnell]

5 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

There were no witnesses to Oswald shooting.

CORRECTION:  There were no witnesses to Oswald shooting on 11/22/63.

I take pride in my ability to admit I was wrong.

Other people I could name have no such pride.

[Ron Bulman]

7 hours ago, Joseph McBride said:

Newsmax, citing sources in the Pennsylvania State Police, says Trump was not struck in the ear by a bullet but by a glass shard or fragments from a Teleprompter shattered by a bullet. The FBI SAC heading the investigation, when asked if a bullet hit Trump, declined to answer. The medical staff at the hospital have not publicly discussed his injury but have been told to defer questions to the campaign. Trump was not wearing a bandage on his ear while playing golf Sunday but conspicuously wore one at the convention Monday.

That's interesting.  No patch for golf but a large one for the convention the next day.  The FBI declined to answer?  The medical staff told to defer questions to the campaign?  This was an assassination attempt on a former president protected by the Secret Service.  We the People have a right to know.  Of course, the Press won't press the issue.

Edited 4 hours ago by Ron Bulman

[Joseph McBride]

Now they're saying the golf photo was not from Sunday. But the other points stand.

Trump's dubious doctor Ronny Jackson put out comments about treating

Trump's ear on the plane from an alleged bullet wound. But the medical

staff at the hospital have been muzzled. A report said the hospital was

on a lockdown plan originally set up by the Secret Service for a Trump visit

to the area in 2020. Also, there's a report the hospital staff treated

200 (!) people at the rally, apparently on the scene, for heat

problems and so forth. Photos do not show the 15,000 people

that the campaign claimed were there. More like 1500-2000.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Joseph McBride

[Nick Bartetzko]

I can't find the one pic right now, but I enlarged it the other day and it sure showed trauma to Trump's ear

[Karl Kinaski]

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Bombshell: Secret Service Admit To Replacing Trump’s Permanent Detail With ‘Temporary Agents’ For Butler Rally Former president Donald J. Trump’s Secret Service permanent detail were stood down for the Butler, Pennsylvania rally on Saturday, according to an admission by Secret Service spokesman Anthony Guglielmi. The site agent, who was in charge of putting all security measures for a particular event in place, was a “relatively new agent” from the Pittsburgh office with “limited experience,”

 

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Bongino: “SS Agents have been told by Biden Adm and Cheatle…if you want to keep your job, keep your mouth shut.” What do they know they aren’t telling?

 

 

[Mark Knight]

Because it's not directly related to the JFK assassination, I am establishing a separate forum to discuss the Donald J. Trump assassination attempt that occurred on Saturday, July 13, 2024...and information primarily related to that event.

[Karl Kinaski]

@ Mark Knight Thx. Good idea. 

[Pat Speer]

8 hours ago, David Von Pein said:

Both of those things (age & looks) are, of course, purely subjective observations.

The overall evidence indicates, without much doubt, that Brennan saw Lee H. Oswald in the 6th-floor window.

 

Brennan specified that the shooter was NOT wearing the shirt matching the fibers found on the rifle. IF one is to cite Brennan as a witness of Oswald, one SHOULD also cite him as a witness supporting the fibers were planted. The WC's refusal to acknowledge this is proof of their dishonest investigation. 

And yeah, I know, SOME prefer to believe Oswald was wearing his T-shirt when firing the rifle, and wiped down the rifle with his shirt.

But there's a problem. THIS IS TOTAL NONSENSE, as the rifle was not wiped down and non-smudged prints were all over the trigger guard. 

[Karl Kinaski]

  Brennan saw a standing shooter. To shot in such position through a window in the TSTB is only possible when you are on the 7th floor of that building. The WC was brainwashing poor Brennan, he then claims the shooter was in the Oswald window. But guess what? Brennan never changed his statement that the shooter he saw was standing. Therefore the testimony of Brennan is a hybrid: Half brainwashing half what he really saw. 

[Karl Kinaski]

Creepy: just watch the first minute ... I mean If Trump would have been hit in the head by that bullet,  it would have entered nearly in the exact spot the "front shot bullet" entered the head of JFK ... the path of that bullet in in within his head would have been nearly the same ... 

 

Edited 51 minutes ago by Karl Kinaski