Guest Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 (edited) Got it, it's from the Chief of Station, Rome, about Italian/Austrian/etc...spec's on the correct names/types, 3 pages in total. Mr. Lane said something, but not everything. Well, in those days I suppose it would be like that... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=50141#relPageId=3&search=The_Weapon Presumably Used Edited September 9, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Pictures removed to save space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 I found nothing on the first document allegedly dated 11/25/1963. Stopping for now, if it's anything like the second... well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis Morissette Posted September 2, 2022 Share Posted September 2, 2022 Information from Italy. Ok. Not an Italian rifle. Desperate to deflect bad reputation to Italy? The author was probably writing this report while eating pasta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said: Got it, it's from the Chief of Station, Rome, Italy... 3 pages in total. Mr. Lane said something, but not everything. Well, in those days I suppose I would be like that... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=50141#relPageId=3&search=The_Weapon Presumably Used Wow. I guess it's probably just an interesting coincidence the Chief of Station in Rome in 1963 was Bill Harvey. The same Bill Harvey who had been in charge of assassination attempts on Castro, through which he became life long friends with Johnny Roselli. The same Bill Harvey that RFK wanted fired because Harvey was still running ops to Cuba after JFK ordered them stopped. But the CIA shipped him off to Rome instead. The same Bill Harvey who went to Florida in the spring of 1963 for a "fishing trip" with Roselli (and likely David Morales) and was seen on a plane headed to Dallas by one of his employees in late November 1963. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 9 hours ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said: Got it, it's from the Chief of Station, Rome, Italy... 3 pages in total. Mr. Lane said something, but not everything. Well, in those days I suppose I would be like that... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=50141#relPageId=3&search=The_Weapon Presumably Used About to be off the front page already. Worthy of note (?). COS Rome, 63', Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Got the other one, Russ Holmes work file Edited September 9, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Pictures removed to save space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) It's in : INFORMATION OF OSWALD PASSED TO MEXICAN GOVT NARA Record Number: 104-10434-10062 6 pages in total Edited September 3, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 (edited) Direct link, don't know what to think about this document, Marina is said to be a dental technician in this document. The document's date 11/25 seems to be correct as it mentions Ruby shooting Oswald. By that date they should have known about the M-C., but as even the D.A. was talking Mauser... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7678#relPageId=5&search="Oswald_left Mexico at Nuevo Laredo" The Russ Holmes files contain lots of doc's, gonna read it this we Edited September 3, 2022 by Jean Paul Ceulemans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 18 hours ago, Denis Morissette said: 19 hours ago, Henry Frost said: But in 1968, in an interview with the L.A. Free Press, Craig is quoted as saying: "But there was another rifle, a Mauser, found up on the roof of the depository, that afternoon" 18 hours ago, Denis Morissette said: The Mauser on the roof mistake comes from Fort Worth Star-Telegram reporter Thayor Waldo. He apologized to the WC for it. Other than what he saw and heard that day, I don't think Craig was much informed on the works of the WC. No, Craig was right. Except for the make of the gun. In a compilation of amateur films made by Dallas Cinema Associates (DCA), is a film clip showing police officers bringing a rifle down the fire escape from the TSBD roof. (The film was reportedly shot by a man named Charles Mentesana.) The rifle has no scope, thereby proving that it is neither the Mauser nor the Carcano. According to researcher Ira David Wood, the rifle appears to be a British Enfield. Richard Sprague showed the DCA film to Jim Garrison, and he commented on it in his book. It is now in archives of Western New England College in Springfield, Massachusetts). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brown Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 2 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said: No, Craig was right. Except for the make of the gun. In a compilation of amateur films made by Dallas Cinema Associates (DCA), is a film clip showing police officers bringing a rifle down the fire escape from the TSBD roof. (The film was reportedly shot by a man named Charles Mentesana.) The rifle has no scope, thereby proving that it is neither the Mauser nor the Carcano. According to researcher Ira David Wood, the rifle appears to be a British Enfield. Richard Sprague showed the DCA film to Jim Garrison, and he commented on it in his book. It is now in archives of Western New England College in Springfield, Massachusetts). British Enfield? Try Dallas police-issued shotgun. I could just as easily claim that the Mentesana film shows an officer holding his own shotgun, which of course would not have a scope attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bill Brown said: British Enfield? Try Dallas police-issued shotgun. I could just as easily claim that the Mentesana film shows an officer holding his own shotgun, which of course would not have a scope attached. Which would be rather odd considering how gingerly the officer was handling the gun. And considering how the other officers gathered around to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Just now, Sandy Larsen said: Which would be rather odd considering how gingerly the officer was handling the gun. And considering how the other officers gathered around to take a look. Oh, and considering the fact that the DPD claimed it had been left on the roof by a security guard when asked about it in 1967. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brown Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said: Oh, and considering the fact that the DPD claimed it had been left on the roof by a security guard when asked about it in 1967. Cite please. (I'm betting you can't cite the original source) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bill Brown said: Cite please. (I'm betting you can't cite the original source) I'll cite my assertions after you cite yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Brown Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said: I'll cite my assertions after you cite yours. So no cite (from the original source) for the claim that the DPD claimed it had been left on the roof by a security guard when asked about it in 1967. Alrighty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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