# David Josephs

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3. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

Micheal... Chris and I have been discussing this for quite some time now. Let's take 1/4 of a second. at 48fps we get 12 frames in that time. at 16fps we get 4 frames. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 = 1/4 sec 1 2 3 4 = 1/4 sec If you remove frames 2,3,5,6,8,9,11,& 12 from the 48fps film you get a normal speed film that looks identical to playing the 48fps at 48fps. Instead of removing 2/3 of the frame, they removed a few less than that... OR only portions of the film were done at 48fps... the B&H switched on the fly with the push of a button... The images we post and the math done explains what the FBI and SS did with the Survey's and exhibits - what connection it has to the film is not readily apparent. In fact he, using the work from Tom Purvis, shows that these surveys and conclusions have little at all to do with what we see on the film. There was, in fact, 2 main problems with these recreations and ultimately with CE884. First, the 10" height difference between JFK and the recreation car was never accounted for in the measurements: and second, Shaneyfelt moved his limo path off the established path in such a manner that JFK at z166 on the film lines up with z171 on the FBI path. This is where it gets somewhat confusing for sure. The extant 168 shows the limo already passing the lane stripe. Passing a line (grey) thru JFK at extent 168 (red line) brings us to where Shaneyfelt moved the limo for JFK at z171 (green line). Except that's not where the limo was in the film. This movement south from the original locations continues both up and down Elm. The paths diverge at POS A and come back to gether at Z313. Finally, this shows the 7 different locations for the 3 shots depending on which report you look at... You can also see the re-converging of the 2 paths at z313
4. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

Jeff, Agree totally that after the fact the FBI tries to fit a round peg in a square hole. Take more than 3 shots and represent them as 3. What was most difficult is that 2 shots were fired very closely together between z195 and z224. 29 frames a little over 1.5 seconds. Then they were combined into one since there was no way to fit those 2 shots into the scenario. If the film was altered, do we agree that clues to that occurring would be left while other clues could and would be suppressed/altered/replaced... those who see the film that weekend - correct me if I'm wrong - give us precious little to go on... Dino's commentary is also a cliff notes version of all the things that film showed. Chamberlain, Rather, Stolley, etc... supposedly see an unaltered film. They watched the original 16mm very fast and then again when it was a copy and 8mm slit. I appreciate your characterization of our frame of mind, though there seems to be a missing slice you've not touched upon. 3 surveys prior to the WC one in May placed shots in a variety of locations... Consistent with all three is the fact z313 is shot #2 in their 3 shot sequence with another shot at the foot of the knoll stairs... Altgens and Hudson corroborate. Granted the surveys are done at the direction of the FBI, WEST comments that these people haven/t a clue what their doing if they want a TRUE SURVEY... We must also accept that the "original" in the archives is as far from an intact original as possible... 0183 does not appear on the film in the archives... it is only inferred by the copying of that number... albeit copied to the wrong place on the SS film. We are left with well more film than a 16mm spool has, numerous splices both physical and photographic and yet we are asked to accept that this 9' section of film, 6+ feet or so of the assassination, is somehow directly connected to the in-camera original. You don't find that a bit troubling? Someone took the ORIGINAL film and just cut away everything else but the assassination sequence leaving no way to authenticate it. One must wonder if the film accurately depicted what occurred what the need for re-enactments, for TIME/LIFE, Secret Service & FBI (WCD298) was? You also did not seem to touch upon Zapruder's partner Erwin Schwartz and the conflicts in the timeline he interjects... or the fact that Jaggers - a full functional photo and film lab with DoD contracts - is right there in Dealey Plaza and could have been utilized in this endeavor. Just some speculation... Bottom line, what bothers me most is the way the SS and FBI made sure to control the visuals coming out... they confiscated cameras, photos, and the people taking them in some cases. But not Zapruders? They treated him with kid gloves despite his having the best filmed evidence, which would have been evident after the first viewing. Do you truly believe the US Govt allowed this evidence to remain in Dallas, unattended, on the word of Zapruder and his partner? I find that to be completely inconsistent with their behavior in every other aspect of their "investigation". Then there's this... I realize this is not a first gen scan of the frame... yet blacks tend to behave uniformly when applying filters... if they get crushed out, then they crush out everywhere... This has been described by those who have analyzed it as a "black mark hovering over the photo" in stereoscope. It covers the exact spot needing to be covered. Others have shown Z359 inwhich you can see the right rear wound without the black mark covering it... There are a number of other examples... the evidence of what exactly happened with the film cannot be authenticated. Just like the multiple casket deliveries even with the evidence staring one in the face there remains detractors to the theory. I contend the film we have shows alteration, drastic alteration in fact. If you can offer proof or explanation for the film having all those splices, no 0183, and no physical relationship to the rest of the "original" I'm more than ears. Arguing that there was no time to alter or that someone would/should say something if they saw a different film (which a handful of people DID see) plays into the hands of the conspirators IMHO. To think the one unaltered item of evidence is the film which shows the entire thing, when the entirety of the evidence offered cannot be authenticated in virtually every single case, stretches the bounds of reality a bit too far for me to accept. Mr. SHANEYFELT. Yes. Since it was not practical to stop the projector when using the original of the Zapruder film, because of the possibility of damage to the film, Mr. Orth volunteered to prepare 35-mm. color slides directly from the original movie of all of the pertinent frames of the assassination which were determined to be frames 171 through 434. In fact, 168-171 becomes 161-166 in CE884. Nothing of importance occurs from frame #1-171 nor 435-486? I could get into the math, but not going to here... the MATH RULES thread takes care of that... I think if you were to look very seriously at POS A Jeff and what its significance is, you may start to see things differently... . Now I understand that there were more than 3 shots fired yet the scenarios only require 3. A shot which may have occurred as the limo finishes turning onto Elm (POS A) has been removed. Now whether that was the 156/157 break, it does appear that Hickey and Willis are reacting to a shot. Hickey looks down by the limo while Rosemary is looking toward that location. The film shows it better. In any case, there must be a reason for what Shaneyfelt does with CE884 and why CE585 is played down.
5. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

There sure is precious little said about those viewing as well... From what I remember they showed the film at Kodak at much higher speeds. And yes, for alteration to work some of what we know to be true according to Zapruder, can't be. What I find equally puzzling is how a 16fps camera can move at 18fps when to that point weren't projectors showing at 16? Other than the variable models which ran at 15fps-25fps, projectors ran at 16fps to match the camera speeds which I believe were changing to 18fps right around 1963... I find the conclusion of 18.3 fps just another FBI trick to accomplish what was necessary. To me, this suggests he started filming the motorcade well before what we see on z133. And if so, then we must deal with Pos A and everything that suggests. Even without the statement, POS A remains a wrench in the works. I'd suggest reading Shaneyfelt's testimony and the "MATH RULES" thread. There is nothing right about POS A yet it was important enough to include in the "4th survey to debunk them all" with photos and everything... Any ideas? Mr. LIEBELER - And it proceeded then down Elm Street toward the triple underpass; is that correct?Mr. ZAPRUDER - That's correct. I started shooting--when the motorcade started coming in, I believe I started and wanted to get it coming in from Houston Street. BELL & HOWELL 253 AX 8MM SILENT PROJECTOR & CAMERA OUTFIT Standard 8mm Bell and Howell complete home movie outfit with 253AX projector (completely refurbished), camera with sundial, and flood lights. All in New condition with all original factory packing in the original boxes. Projector features 400' reel capacity, set running speed of 16 frames per second, forward projection only. Using the DFC, DFA or DCH 150 watt 120 volt bulb and 1 inch f1.6 lens. Like New condition and runs beautifully. With all instruction books, 400' reel and test film. Camera, projector and flood lights in perfect working condition and ready to use - \$349 (No Discount)
6. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

Interesting Jeff... I've spoken with Chris a number of times and don't remember his mentioning that.... I too thought Sat's Dino event was 20 hours after the film is in DC... Quite a lot can be done in 20 hours.... Any thoughts about the 48fps speed throughout?
7. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

Hi there Jeff (great work on the BYP too !) I can appreciate the assumption - yet what do we have to offer any conclusive proof of that? Any documentation that gets it from Rowley's desk to the next stop? Thanks Jeff... I'd also be interested in your thoughts about Zapruder filming at 48fps. A film with over 1200 frames at 48fps cut down to 486 gives us 18.3fps on a camera that only has 16 & 48 fps settings... (btw - the 3 degree incline on Elm works out to 18.3':1' run over rise... just sayin') Make the cuts, cover up a blob or two and then refilm it with Zapruder's camera... we now have a new full flush left original that no one wants to let Doug Horne test for the difference between Kodachrome II and Kodachrome IIA... I guess what I'm saying is we needn't make the alteration so complicated, the jumpiness of the film makes it fairly easy to hide this removal...What's to prevent 0184, or any copy of the original that day with full flush left images from being sent? And I thought I remember reading a quote from Mrs. Zapruder saying the SS comes by Friday eve and takes the original with them... it's from Fetzer's compilation so I'm not sure. and finally, if the film was accurate there would be no need for Shaneyfelt/Frasier to create POSITION A supported by Truly's testimony about the side turn... as well as realign each of the frame references as well as disgregard the results of the earlier surveys..... all this screams a cover-up of the data to make reconstruction impossible. Wasn't it Tom Wilson who said the film did not add up as it progresses thru Dealey... especially at the head shot... Food for thought... thatnks for the great work DJ
8. ## Alexandra Zapruder Book: Part 2

Personally I've been more interested in the Rowley film in DC late FRIDAY night. This would be the first and earliest film no longer in Dallas. Yet I've not seen or read what happens to that film once in Rowley's hands. With more than 20 hours before it even gets to Dino... what is going on with that copy and why couldn't it have been used to create the replacement original before films start leaving Dallas on Saturday? Anyone know?
9. ## The blond Oswald in Mexico

The FM-8 he supposedly had was also a plant just as the application was... The application shown here is for a FM-5, 6 month visa. Not the 15 day version. And I've posted the full WCR versions which cut off the top or bottom depending on which you look at... Also remember it was William GAUDET who gets the VISA after Mr. LEE's. GAUDET connects Oswald to Bannister and 544 Camp. From a previous post we see the SEPT 26 card has "LEE HARVEY OSWALD" yet looking at the FM-11 which records all the FM-8's and 5's coming in has "HARVEY OSWALD LEE" as it shows on the faked visa and hotel register... The Sept FM-11 regarding ENTRY is split into 2 pages, this one with line 807=Oswald and the next page showing "AUTOBUS" for the mode of transportation. Oswald is 7 lines down from the top and finally yet another FM-11, from October although if you look closely this one appears to be the ENTRY FM-11 since there is no EXIT DATE... It has Harvey Oswald LEE which matches the created FM-8. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=56976&search=FM-11#relPageId=110&tab=page
10. ## The blond Oswald in Mexico

The key here is "AMERICAN" documentation. There is H.O. LEE related to GREYHOUND at the border on the way to San Antonio These are copies of the original cards typed by Mexican Immigration and given to HARVEY CASH, American Consul, Nuevo Laredo, MEXICO. This dovetails into a problem at Customs with PUGH, JOHNSON & KLINE when CASH tells KLINE that the documents do not mention the mode of transportation, an obvious lie. The real key is where Tijerina gets his info... the FBI's main asset at Gobernacion... who also "changes" the FM-11 Notice too that on the way in he's Lee Harvey Oswald, yet on the way out he's back to H.O.LEE, as shown above, getting a bus ticket on Greyhound from his bus ticket from Monterrey to Laredo. CE2537
11. ## Marina, the Commission, and Mexico City

Paul - it's time for you to find another subject to butcher mercilessly. Sorry buddy, you're delusional
12. ## Marina, the Commission, and Mexico City

And you make a very good point about a round trip ticket not being on Oswald's radar... yet why not buy a ticket to Laredo for which MAJOR GREEN of Continental Bus tells us there were 2 buses leaving on the 26th, at 4:40pm and 8:15pm? an FBI report from 12/10 What happens instead is very strange... On Dec 16 we get another report for which GREEN adds 2 more buses that only go to Houston. Why only Houston? Possibly because he tells us the first stop for the 12:20pm bus is Houston. So the FBI interviews the Houston bus ticket agents. Not only do none remember Oswald, only 1 ticket is sold for this part of the trip (Houston to Laredo). Despite having the ticket # they obviously cannot connect the ticket to Oswald. To most people this puts the question of whether Oswald traveled thru Houston to Laredo to rest... not the FBI. Between Dec 16, 1963 & February 20, 1964 the FBI interviews (12/20) the driver of the bus between New Orleans and Beaumont, where the driver is changed and also interviewed stating there is no memory of Oswald. Not the most concrete evidence but another brick in the wall. Nothing on this part of the trip until 2/17 we get an FBI report stating that BOWEN/OSBORNE claims he was the only American on that bus. The WCR chose not to believe him January 1963: On 2/20 we get WCD240/CE2191 related to interviews in Houston from January. "With the exception of Hammett, none recall seeing Oswald" is important since Hammett claims there is only 1 ticket agent at the counter (CE2191 p6) yet the report below shows 2 others: Stephenson and Marshall - Hammett is not listed anywhere as a Ticket agent yet becomes the corroboration for a possibility. Since there is no evidence for the 12:20 bus to Houston AND the bus drivers both state they don't remember Oswald AND no one but this one man has any recollection of Oswald.. Hammett's evidence MUST be corroborated... it's not. Yet not only was he interviewed he claims the person he sold the ticket to on Sept 25 looked like Oswald yet the clothes described were mentioned to Marina who claims her Oswald did not have clothes like that. CE2121 begins by mentioning the showing of a TICKET STUB to Hammett... Except that ticket stub is not offered in any of the exhibits or could be found at the archives... If ANYONE has an image of this stub - please post.... Hammett tells a story different from every other Houston-related person asked... this person might have been Oswald... yet without the ticket or any other documentation related to this leg of the trip, we have nothing to corroborate HAMMETT. On the singular word of HAMMETT, Hoover sends this note to Rankin dated MAY 4, 1964 admitting they still do not have any idea how Oswald gets from New Orleans to Houston - we also need to mention, if we'll take just one person's word, that there is evidence Oswald was in Austin on Sept 25th for a meeting at the SSS (p8 CE2137) Here's a map of the trip and the cities mentioned along the way. The FBI used their power and assets to create a story with self corroborating evidence... lickily they offer this evidence for us to analyze and correlate to what they're hiding.