Ron Bulman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Joe, Kirk, while I realize you are both supporters of her please refrain from physical references. She addressed misogyny in the aftermath, whining or a bazillion women... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: I like that Ron, Ok, no I don't find Elizabeth Warren that physically attractive. Ha ha boys! I do agree with Joe. Elizabeth Warren is as young as a 70 year old person as I could imagine. I think she wakes up in the morning sincerely believing in justice and the struggle to better conditions for everyday people. I think she has an indomitable spirit that drives her and a refusal to let life set her back that some may see as a naivete, but I think it's the secret to her youth that many could learn from her, and I don't know what's lurking in her medical records, but I could see her living a long time. Well, I do find Elizabeth Warren attractive. It's her super healthy youngish 70 year old looks ( and body ) combined with her passionate spirit and strong will and courage to stand up for what's right and fair for everybody. A U.S. Constitution and Bill Of Rights defender. She's not afraid to confront bullies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: Joe, Kirk, while I realize you are both supporters of her please refrain from physical references. She addressed misogyny in the aftermath, whining or a bazillion women... Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) Please. Edited January 27, 2022 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 16 minutes ago, David Andrews said: Please. Exactly. Her brain and her heart are her most important parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 AOC is the real deal. Can't wait until she runs. Let us amend the Constitution so she can run earlier. Can you imagine how much Bloomberg will spend against her? He might go bankrupt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Biden’s Rise Gives the Establishment One Last Chance If he fouls this up, we’re doomed. By David Brooks Opinion Columnist -The New York Times March 5, 2020 Joe Biden at a campaign event on Monday.Credit...Tamir Kalifa for The New York Times I don’t know about you, but the election results this week filled me with more hope than I’ve felt in years. It felt like somebody turning down the volume. The angry and putrid shouting that has marked the last four years — and that would mark a Trump vs. Sanders campaign — might actually come to an end. Suddenly we got a glimpse of a world in which we can hear each other talk, in which actual governance can happen, in which gridlock can be avoided and actual change can come. But the results carried a more portentous message as well. For those of us who believe in our political system, it’s put up or shut up time. The establishment gets one last chance. If Joe Biden wins the nomination but loses to Donald Trump in the general election, young progressives will turn on the Democratic establishment with unprecedented fury. “See? We were right again!” they’ll say. And maybe they’ll have a point. If Biden wins the White House but doesn’t deliver real benefits for disaffected working-class Trumpians and disillusioned young Bernie Bros, then the populist uprisings of 2024 will make the populist uprisings of today look genteel by comparison. “The system is rotten to the core,” they’ll say. “It’s time to burn it all down.” Some people are saying a Biden presidency would be a restoration or a return to normalcy. He’ll be a calming Gerald Ford after the scandal of Richard Nixon. But I don’t see how that could be. The politics of the last four years have taught us that tens of millions of Americans feel that their institutions have completely failed them. The legitimacy of the whole system is still hanging by a thread. The core truth of a Biden administration would be bring change or reap the whirlwind. There would be no choice but to somehow pass his agenda: a climate plan, infrastructure spending, investments in the heartland, his $750 billion education plan and health care subsidies. If disaffected voters don’t see tangible changes in their lives over the next few years, it’s not that one party or another will lose the next election. The current political order will be upended by some future Bernie/Trump figure times 10. This week’s results carried a few more lessons: Democrats are not just a party; they’re a community. In my years of covering politics I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything like what happened in the 48 hours after South Carolina — millions of Democrats from all around the country, from many different demographics, turning as one and arriving at a common decision. It was like watching a flock of geese or a school of fish, seemingly leaderless, sensing some shift in conditions, sensing each other’s intuitions, and smoothly shifting direction en masse. A community is more than the sum of its parts. It is a shared sensibility and a pattern of response. This is a core Democratic strength. Intersectionality is moderate. Campus radicals have always dreamed of building a rainbow coalition of all oppressed groups. But most black voters are less radical and more institutional than the campus radicals. They rarely prefer the same primary candidates. If there’s any intersectionality it’s in the center. Moderate or mainstream Democrats like Biden, Clinton and Obama are the ones who put together rainbow coalitions: black, brown, white, suburban and working class. The new Democrats are coming from the right. Bernie Sanders thought he could mobilize a new mass of young progressives. That did not happen. Young voters have made up a smaller share of the electorate in the primaries so far this year than in 2016 in almost every state, including Vermont. Meanwhile there were astounding turnout surges in middle-class and affluent suburbs. Turnout was up by 76 percent in the Virginia suburbs around Washington, Richmond and parts of Norfolk. Turnout was up 49 percent over all in Texas. Many of these new voters must be disaffected Republicans who now consider themselves Democrats. It’s still better to work the room than storm the barricades. Biden grew up in a political era in which politics was still about persuasion, not compulsion; building diverse coalitions, not just firing up your base. He’s been able to win over many of his former presidential rivals and cement a series of valuable alliances, especially with Jim Clyburn of South Carolina. As Ezra Klein pointed out in Vox, Sanders tried to win over the Democratic Party by attacking the Democratic Party and treating its leaders with contempt. In fact, some Sanders surrogates are attacking Biden’s skill in building coalitions as a sign of evil elitism, as something only those nasty insiders do. Biden’s wins this week, and his incredible polling surges in states like Florida that are soon to vote, make it likely that he will win and Sanders will lose this primary contest. But that doesn’t mean that legitimate crises that are driving the Sanders voters — or the legitimate crises that are driving Trump voters — will go away. Their problems will still be all our problems. And if our current system can’t address them, then that system will be swept away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 6, 2020 Author Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) This is pure NY Times. What happened was that the centrists dropped out and endorsed Biden, something Bernie was not expecting and was caught flatfooted about. But Warren stayed in. Does anyone think that Biden is going to take many of those southern states if he wins the nomination? 😀 Super (Southern) Tuesday) , following South Carolina is a real misrepresentation. Well, the health industry and the credit card companies are happy. Edited March 6, 2020 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Govus Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 I dunno what Bernie was expecting. I think of him as pragmatic, principled, strategic, and not naive. But, I was expecting pretty much what we have seen. The establishment snowflakes have accrued all the delegates they could get, and so have melted away. Finally, now Warren, who he begged, twice, to run in the 2016 cycle, has been told she's damaged him enough, and so, too, she melts away. Kicked, even, to the curb by Biden. Owtch! The good news is, I hear the preponderance of the remaining primaries, with two-thirds of the delegates to be chosen, are closed to Republican meddling. And Nate Silver, apparently, still sees Sanders beating Trump, while Biden falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) If Biden is the final Democratic party candidate, the wealthiest 1 to 5% ruling class in this country wins either way regardless who wins the election between him and Trump. It's that simple. The ever growing control of this extremely small minority oligarchy over the rest of us continues. The middle class will remain the more and more powerless class and their losses and stresses economically and politically since Reagan will continue to increase. Edited March 6, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: David, this is what I am talking about. 10's of millions of Americans go to theaters every month ( including my wife and I ) and to close even half of these nationwide will impact the film industry like nothing we've seen before since WWII. And this is just ONE major American industry that will take a massive hit in income and profit. And multiply this singular industry impact many times "world wide!" Same thing with professional sports. Postponing the latest Bond film premier for "7 months" seems a long, long time to do so. Joe, add to that a "snowless" Europe this season due to climate change, and (based on where I live) greatly reduced snowfall in the northern US, and the winter sports and tourism industries take hits on top of Coronavirus fear losses: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2020/mar/06/a-snowless-winter-around-europe-in-pictures https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/03/coronavirus-diaries-travel-agent-halt.html?via=homepage_taps_top https://slate.com/business/2020/03/airlines-are-getting-walloped-by-the-coronavirus.html Edited March 6, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-reveals-to-seth-meyers-what-shell-do-if-biden-beats-bernie/ar-BB10OWqv?li=BBnb7Kz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-reveals-to-seth-meyers-what-shell-do-if-biden-beats-bernie/ar-BB10OWqv?li=BBnb7Kz Why can't she get on a better talk show than Seth Meyers? Lousy time slot, lousy host. Edited March 6, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, David Andrews said: Joe, add to that a "snowless" Europe this season due to climate change, and (based on where I live) greatly reduced snowfall in the northern US, and the winter sports and tourism industries take hits on top of Coronavirus fear losses: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2020/mar/06/a-snowless-winter-around-europe-in-pictures https://slate.com/human-interest/2020/03/coronavirus-diaries-travel-agent-halt.html?via=homepage_taps_top https://slate.com/business/2020/03/airlines-are-getting-walloped-by-the-coronavirus.html Just an FYI. I've been skiing every week since mid-December out here in Colorado and I haven't hit a single rock all season. We've had better years, and worse, and the people I've met on on the lifts lately are coming from everywhere on the planet this year-- Atlanta, Manhattan, Germany, France, Italy, England, Australia, and even Brazil. On February 29th someone with coronavirus returned to Summit County from Italy, and now everyone up there is in a panic. (My last ski day in Summit was February 28th.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 A Stark Economic and Financial Forecast from David Stockman https://www.peakprosperity.com/next-comes-the-turbulent-twenties/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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