Thomas Graves

_________________________________ See post #113 above. Very interesting indeed, James.... P.S. I wonder what operating under the same policey means? With the same corrupt xxxxxx department? lol _________________________________

It's a real attachment taken from the Croft 3 photo. If it is not a mallet/mug-o-brew/coffee cup... what could it be? Mr. Miller claims he has a travel mug that big but I doubt anyone sold travel mugs that big in 1963. Thomas: You will find lots of information about the Ramblers in DP at this link: (emphasis added by T.G.) http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=6365 ________________________________________ Yes Don, that's a wonderful link and thank you for referring me to it but the particular car I'm interested in is the one that's visible in Croft #3 in posts #1 and #9 this thread, directly behind the woman wearing the blue dress and red sweater/coat.... It certainly looks like a Rambler station wagon to me and it certainly looks like it's parked on the Elm Street Extention which runs right in front of the TSBD.... I'm hoping that our resident car identification expert J.W. King will give his opinion on this particular car, i.e. is it a Rambler station wagon? Thanks, --Thomas ________________________________________

______________________________________ In posts #1 and #9 this thread, I think that's a Rambler station wagon that's parked directly behind the woman wearing the blue dress and red sweater/coat and I think it's parked on the "Elm Street Extention" that ran in front of the TSBD. If it's a Rambler station wagon, maybe it's the one that Detective Roger Craig saw Oswald get into around the corner on Elm Street proper. If not, then maybe it's the one that Richard Randolph Carr saw two suspicious-acting men get into after the shooting and be driven away in by a dark-complected man. ______________________________________

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Its the bone that I circled in the first clip in response #5 being seen at a fast interval. Bill ______________________________________ Bill, I think Chris is agreeing with you but is asking what that piece of skull had done just before it was captured in Z-323 as shown in your post #5 this thread -- had it richoched off the armrest/sidedoor, making it fly back up into view? P.S. Nice "catch" --Thomas ______________________________________ Bumped by the author. ______________________________________

Its the bone that I circled in the first clip in response #5 being seen at a fast interval. Bill ______________________________________ Bill, I think Chris is agreeing with you but is asking what that piece of skull had done just before it was captured next to the roses in Z-323 as shown in your post #5 this thread -- had it richoched off the armrest/sidedoor (to make it fly back up into the field of view of Zapruder's camera)? P.S. Nice "catch" --Thomas ______________________________________

_________________________________________ Bill, Your interpretation of what Bowers said sounds reasonable to me. Keep up the good work. (Don't let Miles get the better of you. His use of insulting language is a reflection of him, not you.) --Thomas ________________________________________

_____________________________________ Who said Ron Ecker is funny? _____________________________________

Don, There's something in your "signature" that caught my attention from day one, where you are apparently quoting from different newspaper accounts-- "Drehm seemed to think the shots came from in FRONT OF or BESIDE the president." (Don's EMPHASIS) [...] (Brehm) "also stated that it seemed quite apparent to him that the shots came from one of two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston Streets." ______________________________________________ How could the shots have come "from in front of or beside the president" if they came "from one of the two buildings back at the corner of Elm and Houston streets?" Did Brehm contradict himself or was he misquoted by the newspaper(s) or is there an explanation that can logically take both of Brehm's observations/conclusions into account? --Thomas ______________________________________________

____________________________________ Hopefully Jack wasn't referring to me, even though I do spit a lot. --Thomas ____________________________________

___________________________________________ The Cuban consulate in Los Angeles, yes? ___________________________________________

__________________________ Dawn, You are correct. Here's the Spartacus bio of Ms Pease: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/JFKpease.htm --Thomas P.S. Maybe Spartacus is a Far Right website! LOL _________________________

_______________________________ David, Excellent question! --Thomas _______________________________

_______________________________ Kathy, See James Richards' post (#21) and Tim Gratz's post (#22) on the Oswald in Mexico City thread, currently on the third page of this forum. --Thomas _______________________________

_________________________________ James, Apparently not. --Thomas Oct 3 2007, 04:53 PM _________________________________

____________________________________________________ Nope. Geb/Norton should have his own thread IMHO. ____________________________________________________

__________________ Antti, Sometimes a person looks younger in a photograph than he or she really is. Look at my photo, for example. I was 53 when it was taken and in it I don't look a day over 52 LOL. Also, take into consideration the fact that in the photo of the Marine he's wearing a fatigue cap which might be hiding a receding hairline and a bald spot which is visible in the Mexico City photos. That could make the Marine look younger than he really was, couldn't it? --Thomas _________________

____________________________________ Tim, According to the Ellis Island website, the 17 year old immigrating-to USA-in-1911 Cuban "Mario Sague" was born in 1894. Now if this "Mario Sague" had Mario Tauler Sague when he was 29, then M.T.S. was born in 1923 wasn't he and would have been 23 years old when Reinhard Gehlen started forming his "Gehlen Organization" in 1946. Also, please note that if this scenario is correct, then M.T.S. would have been 40 years old when photographed in 1963 by the CIA in Mexico City. It all sounds very plausible to me somehow. --Thomas P.S. Am eagerly awaiting your clarification of the "Hemming said M.T.S. was Slavic in ancestry/ethnicity" issue. Thanks. ____________________________________

_______________________________ Mark, And what "nationality"was that? German? (There are lots of villages and towns in Germany which are close to Leipzig.) Polish? Czech? All we know from what Hemming said (above) is that Sague was born near Leipzig Germany, which is only about 100 miles from both Poland and the Czech Republic, the two Slavic countries which are geographically-speaking the closest to so-called Western Europe. In addition to Sague's nationality, I'm trying to determine what his ancestry or ethnicity is/was because my experience has been that oftentimes people of a certain ancestry or ethnicity exhibit distinguishing characteristics. "Pure blooded" Czechs and Slovaks tend to have a light complexion, high cheekbones, blue eyes and brown hair. (You don't see as much blond hair in the Czech Republic and Slovakia as you do in Poland and Russia because the Vikings were much more active in the latter two countries than the former two. My nationality is U.S.A. or "American" because I was born in the U.S.A. just like Bruce Springstein LOL. I'm a U.S. citizen and therefore my nationality is "American." Of course some people become naturalized citizens of a country by going through a special legal process. My ancestry (or ethnicity), however, is Irish, Scottish, Swedish, Ukrainian, and French (probably Norman French). In your post I think you're saying that Hemming is suggesting only that Sague's nationality (but not necessarily his ancestry or ethnicity) is/was German simply because Sague was born near Leipzig, a city inside Germany. Am I "reading" your post correctly? Thanks, --Thomas _____________________________________________________

(emphasis added by Thomas Graves)______________________________________________________________________ XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ______________________________________________________________________ Everybody-- In his recent post #32 on the thread MC Man Not A Mystery, Tim Gratz says that Gerry Hemming said somewhere on this Forum that Mario Tauler Sague was Slavic in "nationality." Since there's sometimes a difference between a person's nationality and his or her ancestry, I wonder which term Tim and/or Gerry meant? I've noticed that people often say "nationality" when they really ought to say "ancestry" or perhaps "ethnicity." So, was Mario Tauler Sague Germanic, Spanish or Dutch (etc) in ancestry but born in a Slavic country (like Poland or Czechoslovakia (etc)--- unlikely since Hemming says above that Sague was born near Leipzig which is well within the former East German border--- or is/was Sague Slavic in ancestry but born in Germany, near Leipzig? I don't think so because neither "Mario" nor "Tauler" nor "Sague" is a Slavic name. (Try googling these three names, separately.) Both Dresden and Berlin are significantly closer to the whole Polish border than Leipzig Germany is, so if Sague was born in Poland, why would Hemming say that he was born near Leipzig rather than near Berlin or Dresden? By the same token, Dresden is closer to the whole (former) Czechoslovak (now Czech Republic) border than Leipzig is, so if Sague was born in Czechoslovakia, why would he say that he was born near Leipzig rather than near Dresden? Having lived in the Czech Republic for several years, I can say that the M.C. Mystery Man (Mario Tauler Sague) doesn't even look particularly Slavic, in my humble opinion. By the way, according to http://www.ellisisland.org a Mario Sague, who was born in Cuba and whose last residence before immigrating to the U.S. was Guanajay, departed Havana by ship and arrived at Ellis Island June 17, 1911 at 17 years of age.... (No wonder he wanted to move to the U.S. He was probably worn out from living in that darned "women's prison" called Guanajay.) LOL Hmm... I wonder if he was Mario Tauler's father, his uncle, or just another coincidence for Ron Ecker to ponder? --Thomas _______________________________________ improved augmented modified expanded and bumped, again.... _______________________________________

(emphasis added by Thomas Graves)______________________________________________ _________________________________________________ Tim, Which thread (and post # if possible) was that in? Thanks, --Thomas _________________________ Or was it in a Personal Message or an e-mail? I hope you aren't putting the word "Slavic" in Gerry's mouth, Tim, just because Russians are Slavs. (We all know that you think and sometimes preach that the Ruskies hit JFK...) _________________________

(emphasis added by Thomas Graves) ____________________________ I think that the Mexico City "Mystery Man," shown in the two photos in post #11 could very well be the same person as the guy who seems to be the subject of the photo referred to by James Richards in post #8. He is standing in the very near foreground of said photo, wearing a white T-shirt and a fatigue cap. He's looking at the camera and pointing at himself. (Roscoe White is standing behind him.) Does anyone know this guy's name? Thanks, --Thomas ____________________________