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1 minute ago, David Von Pein said:
Oh yeah, Vince, I've known for some time now that Clint Hill isn't a big fan of the SBT.
I think I could convince him though. If he would just take a good look at all the stuff I present here, I think I'd have a chance at turning Clint into an SBT believer.
I am actually stunned by all these Landis headlines/news because the hype for his forthcoming book on Amazon gave the impression he was going to DEBUNK conspiracy theories. I am confused LOL!
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50 minutes ago, Vince Palamara said:
As usual, everyone is late to the party because only someone like me is "into" the Secret Service:
From Hill's last book Five Presiden (2016): it seems everyone missed this crucial detail, perhaps because they were burned out on reading his FOURTH account of the assassination (his three books plus his contribution to The Kennedy Detail). This was duly noted in my third book from 2017.
DVP-thoughts?
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5 minutes ago, David Von Pein said:
Paul Landis, following his new "revelation", really doesn't have much of a choice but to have doubts about Oswald acting alone. Because if what Landis theorizes is true (i.e., the back-wound bullet to Kennedy ended up on the top of the back seat after JFK was thrown to the rear at the time of the head shot), then that would almost certainly have to mean that a second assassin shot Kennedy in the throat with a frontal shot. (Unless Mr. Landis wants to theorize that it wasn't a BULLET at all that caused JFK's throat wound, but instead it was a fragment from the head shot that did the throat damage.)
But with each additional theory comes even more questions and problems. Such as:
If a single bullet didn't wound both JFK and Connally.....and if the bullet that Landis allegedly found was, indeed, CE399 (which I think Landis says he believes is the case)....then what the heck happened to the bullet (or bullets) that hit Governor Connally?!
With the SBT in place, of course, we don't need to ask the question I just posed above. But with the LBT (Landis Bullet Theory) in the mix of possible scenarios now, this question will always be hanging out there, never to be satifactorily answered by any conspiracy theorist:
"Where did the bullet go that struck John Connally and ended up making a shallow wound in his left thigh?"
CTers can, of course, always resort to the theory that has a fragment from the JFK head shot creating the superficial wound in Connally's leg. But that still won't answer the question of What happened to the bullet that hit Connally?
For conspiracy advocates, it always seems to be: So many wounds....So few bullets.
You have to admit, though: Landis is no "conspiracy theorist" or wacky writer- he is a principal in the case, ostensibly with much built-in credibility. Even if he is lying, this merely adds to the lack of credibility of several of the agents claims. It is a win-win for those on the CT side.
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Needless to say, I am going to hound Howard Willens, Clint Hill and Gerald Blaine about Landis' comments and book- explain THIS you [censored] haha!
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The looks on Hill's and Landis' faces are priceless: "Ummm-cut! Win, redo that: there's no way Oswald could have fired the rifle THAT fast!!!"
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The looks on Hill's and Landis' faces are priceless: "Ummm-cut! Win, redo that: there's no way Oswald could have fired the rifle THAT fast!!!"
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HMMMM--Sam Kinney's neighbor claimed that SAM was the one who had the bullet:
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Sam Kinney's neighbor claimed Sam said HE had the bullet:
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2 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:
Thanks, as always, VP, and for your years of earnest research into the JFKA.
Thanks! I am blown away by this Vanity Fair story and the TMZ story, as the Amazon hype for Landis' book (coming out next month) was that it was going to DEBUNK CONSPIRACY THEORIES!!
This has backfired dramatically.
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Interestingly enough, Landis says that for a long time -- he was pretty sure LHO acted alone. But says this now ... "At this point, I’m beginning to doubt myself. Now I begin to wonder."
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ALSO from 2016: Paul Landis does not believe the single bullet theory, either (this has to bum out DVP, Fred Litwin, etc.):
Paul Landis ALSO does not believe the single bullet theory
Shaker Heights man guarding Kennedys witnessed JFK assassination (photos) - cleveland.com
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As usual, everyone is late to the party because only someone like me is "into" the Secret Service:
From Hill's last book Five Presiden (2016): it seems everyone missed this crucial detail, perhaps because they were burned out on reading his FOURTH account of the assassination (his three books plus his contribution to The Kennedy Detail). This was duly noted in my third book from 2017.
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2 hours ago, David Von Pein said:
Yes, indeed so.
I, myself, find it nearly impossible to believe Mr. Landis' story about finding a bullet "resting on the top of the back of the seat" (which is a quote from the 9/9/2023 Vanity Fair article by James Robenalt.
How on Earth could a whole bullet have managed to have been located in that odd position on 11/22/63? "Resting on the top of the back of the seat"? Without Clint Hill ever noticing it or disturbing, even though Hill was clinging to the back of the car all the way to Parkland? Highly doubtful.
And even more importantly, why wouldn't Agent Landis have told someone else in authority (anyone else!) that he had picked up a bullet and moved it to President Kennedy's stretcher?
It makes no sense whatsoever for Landis to have remained totally silent about finding (and moving) such a bullet in the limo on November 22.
Did Mr. Landis think that the details about where and how the bullet was first found weren't important details at all, and therefore he felt he didn't even need to tell the Chief of the Secret Service or the FBI or anybody in Trauma Room No. 1 at Parkland about his discovery at all?
Such a mindset and behavior for a Secret Service agent is utterly ridiculous---and most certainly unbelievable.
Plus....
If Mr. Landis' bullet story is to be believed, we would then have to believe that the bullet he placed on JFK's stretcher was either never noticed by anyone else in the very busy Trauma Room No. 1, or the bullet was deliberately deep-sixed and disposed of, or the bullet was moved to yet another stretcher in the hospital (Governor Connally's).
Each of the above choices, in my opinion, also resides in the category marked "unbelievable".
What I love about this is the fact that Landis thought his book would be the final word and debunk conspiracy theories---beep! Wrong answer hahahahahaha!
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The Final Witness: A Kennedy Secret Service Agent Breaks His Silence After Sixty Years
there are several witnesses also still alive, including Clint Hill, and he has spoken before. SMH]
Regarding the infamous Secret Service drinking incident on the morning of 11/22/63, Landis was a participant (one of the nine agents, including Clint Hill, Jack Ready and Glen Bennett from the same follow-up car) and he did not depart “The Cellar” until 5:00 a.m. on the morning of November 22, 1963! [18 H 687]
Although Landis was, like Agent Hill, assigned to protect Mrs. Kennedy, he was strangely out of position back on the opposite running board, making him un-available to assist her in the event of a crisis.Interestingly, Landis reported that the fatal head shot to JFK came from the front: “My reaction at this time was that the shot came from somewhere towards the front.”[Landis’s report dated November 27, 1963: 18 H 758–9] CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
Landis later wrote: “I still was not certain from which direction the second shot came, but my reaction at this time was that the shot came from somewhere towards the front, right-hand side of the road.”[Landis’s detailed report dated November 30, 1963: 18 H 751–7] CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
The HSCA, who interviewed Landis on February 17, 1979, noted: “Landis confirmed the accuracy of his statement to the Warren Commission [sic: report submitted].”[HSCA Report, pp. 89, 606 (referencing Landis’s interview, February 17, 1979 outside contact report, JFK Document 014571)]
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And Landis' 2010 "change of heart" (page 353 of THE KENNEDY DETAIL) CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
However, Paul Landis ALSO does not believe the single bullet theory--!!! Shaker Heights man guarding Kennedys witnessed JFK assassination (photos) - cleveland.comCLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
Landis "broke his silence" many years beforehand: Agent Paul E. Landis, Jr. (First Lady Detail, rode in Secret Service follow-up car): From a newspaper article in the Columbus (Ohio) Dispatch, November 20, 1988: “Vice president of Knutsen Machine Products in Cleveland, Paul Landis graduated from Worthington High School in 1953 and is a graduate of Ohio Wesleyan University in Delaware, Ohio. Crediting [Agent] Bob Foster as ‘the influence in my joining the Secret Service’, Landis remained five years. Assigned to the protection of Jacqueline Kennedy, he was a part of that historic motorcade in Dallas. During this interview - only his second interview in 25 years - he says, ‘I’ve never gone back and read anything on [the assassination] … I’m about ready … Up until now, I didn’t want to rehash it. It was a very painful time for me.’ Landis remained with Mrs. Kennedy for six months after Dallas, helping her move out of the White House, as well as protecting her from the ever-growing, insensitive crowds. Among his photographs is a picture of the former first lady bearing the inscription: ‘To Paul Landis, with deep appreciation for all your help to us for three years. Jacqueline Kennedy.’ ”
Landis also spoke to author Gerald Blaine IN 2010, even appearing on the Kennedy Detail documentary. Oops.
PAUL LANDIS ON TELEVISION AND DVD:
JFK Secret Service Agents Paul Landis & Robert Foster 2003 - YouTube
Secret Service agent Winston Lawson- too fast of a shooting sequence - YouTube
JFK Assassination ~ Agent Paul Landis - YouTube
Secret Service agents Clint Hill and Paul Landis (right) with Jackie Kennedy.
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PAUL LANDIS, THEN AND NOW. CLICK ON IMAGE TO ENLARGE
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On 9/1/2023 at 3:42 AM, James DiEugenio said:
Vince:
Have you posted that obit around, like on Twitter or FB? I have not seen it.
It is sickening to see a person devote so much time and effort to a cause, and then get blipped out upon his passing. Him and Lifton.
Literally all I have seen is what I fished out at the time in the Summer of 2015 (he passed away in February of that year). Harry was not on social media, had no family and kept to himself for the most part, plus he made many enemies with KILLING THE TRUTH.
HARRY LIVINGSTONE- JFK AUTHOR; R.I.P. Great 2012 article | Vince Palamara
HARRY LIVINGSTONE RIP- more information on his last years/days and passing | Vince Palamara
HARRISON LIVINGSTONE: ALL OF HIS MANY, MANY BOOKS | Vince Palamara
Harrison Edward Livingstone- he was a friend of mine | Vince Palamara
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I know- bizarre, is it not? Harry had two NY Times Best-Sellers, HIGH TREASON and HIGH TREASON 2 (and High Treason was a best-seller twice).
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11 hours ago, Gerry Down said:
An interesting point. Hadn't heard that before. Can @Vince Palamara confirm this for us?
That is a 1000 percent correct, as I state and reference in my book(s) and as also noted by author Phil Melanson.
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23 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
Nice one Vince.
I should have checked more thoroughly.
No problem!
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18 hours ago, Adam Johnson said:
Thanks for posting Vince.
Sure!
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16 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
Did Kennedy's brain end up at the AFIP?
I never heard Gunn or Horne ever refer to this. But Dave Montague told me they were really disturbed by this evidence.
Thanks to Malcolm Blunt and Dave we have it now. Truly startling stuff that the HSCA never got close to.
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-mystery-of-kennedy-s-brain-deepens
My chapter on James Mastrovito from my third book THE NOT-SO-SECRET SERVICE:
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16 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
Did Kennedy's brain end up at the AFIP?
I never heard Gunn or Horne ever refer to this. But Dave Montague told me they were really disturbed by this evidence.
Thanks to Malcolm Blunt and Dave we have it now. Truly startling stuff that the HSCA never got close to.
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-mystery-of-kennedy-s-brain-deepens
My chapter on James Mastrovito from my fourth book WHO'S WHO IN THE SECRET SERVICE:
Paul Landis Revelation About Assassination Bullet
in JFK Assassination Debate
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J.F.K. Assassination Witness Breaks His Silence and Raises New Questions - The New York Times (nytimes.com)