Ray Mitcham

So you believe that in 903, the pointer that Specter is holding is placed at the neck, David?

Seems to me the David gave you all the necessary information. What else do you want, Fred?

Ron. I have permission. If you give me the link I will copy and post for you.

It ill becomes somebody who criticises another poster for using bad grammar, to then mix tenses in his own post. "Secondly, if you had read his book, you will see...." and "Your verbal masturbation in the last post was long-winded and easily refuted. " is a totally over the top insult.

I remember watching the film some years ago. Left me with so much sadness. And I'm not American.

RFK's autopsy report. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/coroner-robert-f-kennedy-autopsy

Joe, just copy the address at the top of the Youtube page and post it here.

Here you go, Jim..

Rubbish. I've just tried it and my shoulders stayed level, because my weight was on the lower leg not on both. Try it yourself.

Brilliant, Ernie. Thanks for your trouble.

Dougherty's Warren testimony is a load of contradictions. He thought the shots happened before he had his lunch, which was at twelve o"clock. "Mr. BALL - And it also says, this report from Mr. Johnson, states that you told him that just prior to 12 noon you and five other men were working on the sixth floor. Were you?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes; we were working on the sixth floor.Mr. BALL - What were you doing?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I was getting some stock off of the sixth floor.Mr. BALL - You weren't helping the men lay floor?Mr. DOUGHERTY - No, sir.Mr. BALL - Did you go down to lunch?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes.Mr. BALL - To what floor?Mr. DOUGHERTY - The first floor." He thought that the East Elevator had buttons, then he thought it was the West one which had buttons. "Mr. BALL - Which elevator did you take?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, you see, there's one on this side and one on this side the one on this side is the one I took.Mr. BALL - Well, now, "The one on this side and the one on this side," doesn't mean much when it's written down.Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I know it.Mr. BALL - Can you tell me whether it was the east side or the west side elevator?Mr. DOUGHERTY - East side.Mr. BALL - Is it the one that you punch a button on? Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir. Mr. BALL - I believe that is the west side, isn't it?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, I believe it is. He said he asked Eddy Piper if the President had been shot, then denied he had asked him. "Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, then immediately I heard a loud noise---it sounded like a car backfiring, and I came back down to the first floor, and I asked Eddie Piper, I said, "Piper, what was that?" I says, "Has the President been shot?'. He said, "Yes."Mr. BALL - You didn't say--did you say, 'Has the President been shot?"---you told the FBI agent that you went down to the first floor and you saw a man named Eddie Piper and asked him if he heard a loud noise.Mr. DOUGHERTY - I asked him that too.Mr. BALL - And Piper said he had heard three loud noises and told you that somebody had Just shot the President; is that right?Mr. DOUGHERTY - That's right.Mr. BALL - Who mentioned the fact that the President had been shot first--- you or Eddie Piper?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Eddie Piper.Mr. BALL - Did you say anything to Piper about the President being shot?Mr. DOUGHERTY - No, sir.Mr. BALL - When you talked to Eddie Piper, did you know that the President had been shot?Mr. DOUGHERTY - No, sir; I didn't know that at the time.Mr. BALL - When is the first time you heard that the President had been shot? Mr. DOUGHERTY - When Eddie told me that.Mr. BALL - Eddie told you that?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes. He said Shelley told him that he saw Oswald with a large package, when Shelley never said that in his testimony. "Mr. BALL - Did you ever see Lee Oswald carry any sort of large package?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, I didn't, but some of the fellows said they did. Mr. BALL - Who said that?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, Bill Shelley, he told me that he thought he saw him carrying a fairly good-sized package.Mr. BALL - When did Shelley tell you that?Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, it was--the day after it happened. Shelley to the W.C. "Mr. BALL - On the 22d of November 1963, did you see him come to work that morning?Mr. SHELLEY - No, he was at work when I got there already filling orders. Dougherty was either completely stupid or a paid dis-informant.

Thanks for posting David's posting, Douglas. Makes you realise how lucky you are to be in good health.

I hope I'm still around to answer, Ron.😀

Lovelady was standing like this, Ron.

https://ibb.co/i6QwUx

Faulty upload.

To me, the blackened area looks like the reflection of the shadow of Air Force One's body. You can see the matching slit of light caused by the shadow of the tailplane (horizontal stabiliser) and the shadow of wing.

Please accept my apologies, Trygve. I should have spelled your name correctly. I wasn't criticising your comments just suggesting what may have happened.

Who said it exited, Trigve? Look at the tracheotomy, does it look like a normal one to you or a butchered attend[mpt to get at a bullet?

LBJ was aboard Air Force One quite some time before the Kennedy clan got aboard. LBJ was there when the coffin with the President in was loaded. What on earth could he have been up to whilst he was on there?

Hi Gene, Zapruder can be seen standing on the pedestal in the Orville Nix film @ 25 second mark.

Agreed, James. Sorry for helping DVP to derail your thread. Linnie Mae is said to have seen Oswald through the narrow slats shown in the photos, and behind Frazier's car which is almost impossible to discern through the slats. Certainly throw a lot of doubt over her testimony.