Paul Brancato

Tribalism. Just look around you. Stop picking good guys and bad guys. What Hamas did was horrible. What Israel is doing now is horrible.

Thanks William. Is this a thread about RFK Jr? No. but since you brought it up his stance is closer to Ben’s than to mine. I listened to a long interview where he addressed this, and found it painful and disappointing. But which presidential hopeful are we comparing him to? One more thing - the two state solution may be preferable to what exists today, but don’t you think One state would be better? Two states living side by side in peace and harmony? Easy to see why there is so much opposition to the idea. One state was once a principled position, now it’s anathema, because we are devolving into tribal hatred.

Standing Together - an antidote to Tribalism. We see the latter everywhere in every form, and it continues to be destructive. Ben - Pakistan is a Muslim state which, though almost entirely Muslim, guarantees freedom of religion in their constitution. Have you looked at all the Muslim countries to fact check your statement? It’s interesting that British rule is often the antecedent to religious or racial divisions. When each group in a country like India is given representation in a parliamentary government it reinforces tribal attitudes. Britain made Pakistan a separate country for Muslims, thinking it would solve a problem that barely existed prior to their colonial occupation. In their history India had had both Muslim and Hindu rulers. Now we have nukes on either side of the border. As much as I appreciate your analysis, and your condemnation of Hamas, and Putin, it just doesn’t go far enough in my opinion. As JFK said, one has to put oneself in the shoes of the ‘enemy’ of peace is the desired outcome. The last 100 years of middle east history cannot be reduced to the intolerance of Muslims.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/250344348006576 Dr. Steven Greer, whose work prompted my thread, speaking about zero point energy, advanced technologies being hidden and why.

Agree

Wasn’t Devine at the NYC meeting with DeMohrenschildt? Isn’t he DUBRINY1?

Thanks Denny.

Matt - I’m mostly in favor of your interpretation. But it seems strange that we would hide technology that is far advanced for so long. Unless you don’t believe the eye witnesses who say that the UAP’s defy the laws of physics as far as we know them.

Hard to imagine Lafitte working at the coffee company

Very sweet - thanks Joe

Jim - one thing that disturbs me about Egypt under Nasser was the large number of Nazis employed in high positions there. I have a number of books that explore this, but the one that uses all of them in his source notes is Professor Jeffrey M. Bale’s treatise The Darkest Sides of Politics Volume 1, Postwar Fascism, Covert Operations, and Terrorism. In the notes on pages 117-118 Bale notes by name the various Nazi functionaries employed in Egypt beginning in the early 1950’s, all of them with the assistance of Otto Skorzeny, himself deeply involved in Egypt, so much so that Mossad apparently turned him into their asset in 1963 and engaged him to destroy Egypt’s developing nuclear program run by Nazi scientists. One can see pretty clearly that when Nasser led a revolt against King Farouk in 1952 he inherited Farouk’s Nazis. I haven’t seen anything yet, though I’m still digging, to indicate that Nasser tackled this Nazi problem. It’s easy to read into this Israel’s problem with Farouk and with Nasser. My bet is that JFK was never briefed on this. It certainly begs more research.

William - I’m glad you brought it up and posted it here. I never thought of it as conspiracy land - it’s real history. Let’s see if someone reading it disagrees.

That’s great work, thank you for bringing the pieces together in this difficult to assess time in Middle East and US history. The Democratic Party watched its best leaders assassinated and did little to nothing. Hardly a surprise we are here today. Nasser was the alternative to the Saudi’s, and the US chose the latter with ongoing devastating effect, similarly repeated in Afghanistan a decade later. If one casually googles Nasser one encounters his anti-Semitism front and center. Was it though? Can one be anti-Zionist and not Anti-Semitic? Can one sympathize with Palestine? Barely, though there is some pushback these days. The US can barely bring itself to vote for increased aid to Palestine, much less a cease fire. In the name of Anti-communism we have launched Armageddon globally, a process that has unwound since WW2. PAX Americana, the opposite of JFK’s stated policies, is all we know. It seems obvious to me that today’s Republican Party has been taken over by extremists who have no clue what their actual purpose is, which is to force US citizens to choose between them and a thoroughly corrupted Democratic pro Empire pro big business pro military Party who are at least inclusive of race and gender and support, however weakly, labor rights and women’s rights. Not Palestinian rights, Yemeni rights, Congolese rights, but of course Ukrainian and Taiwanese rights. Same script.

I have no idea where Mary Haverstick dug up the document, but her book A Woman I Know has a long section on it, including the schematic drawn by Harvey.

RFK Jr made the decision to go independant after the Democratic Party completely dissed him. Not sure if anyone saw his appearance when republicans called him to testify about censorship, something he had personally experienced. His treatment by Democrats at that hearing was repugnant. They literally lied about his statements and would it give him the time to rebut or clarify. Republicans have him lip service but likewise censored him and would not give him the time to clarify or defend himself against the scurrilous attacks. The California Democratic Party actually sent me a petition to keep him off the California ballot - as a Democrat. He didn’t abandon the party, they abandoned him. I agree with Roger about RFK Jr.’s unwillingness to speak out about the Israeli response to Hamas attack. The entire US government is guilty on this account.

RFK Jr is not to my knowledge running as a Libertarian. He is running as an independant without party affiliation. Thanks to the Fox wing early promotion of him, and complete dissing by liberal media he is more likely to draw votes from Republicans than Democrats.

Why lump RFK Jr in with Johnson and Carlson? His advocacy couldn’t possibly be from the same place. You know that. I presume you can’t get past his vaccine stance. But he is not MAGA.

I read recently a 1951 speech by then congressman John Kennedy where he references the 700,000 displaced Palestinians.

Hello Robert, rejoining the fray I see. Long, complete rundown of pretty much everything one might need to know about JFK and US global and domestic shenanigans.

I can never figure out how to fit pics, so I’ll attempt to summarize what the author wrote. in responding to 7 pages of Arnold Silver notes discussing the creation of ZRRIFLE Harvey responded with two pages of his own. The words ‘The Magic Button’ appear at the top of the first page. Right below it Harvey drew a schematic that the author (she shows a picture of this) says looks to her like ‘a pistol-like contraption with a triggering mechanism shooting something forward’. ‘When the Church Committee asked Harvey what the Magic Button was, he said it was probably a euphemism for technology he had discussed with [Technical Services Division Chief] Sidney Gottlieb the day before. The notes also contain an underlined phrase ‘Not a TSD problem’. Harvey told the committee that the operation involved ‘A very sensitive and unusual technique of assassination’.

It was a snippet I read in A Woman I Know, Mary Haverstick author.

Harvey apparently scribbled a schematic of the magic button - I think it was a weapon

Love this clip from my all time favorite movies. You think magic button might refer to a high tech weapon?

Cliff - what is your interpretation of ‘magic button’?

LBJ was apparently going nuts on the flight home. If he was the mastermind that doesn’t make sense. He was the beneficiary, and probably knew what was going down. Guilty as charged up to a point, but I don’t see him as the guy at the top.