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David, I don't know who Dalman is and can't tell you about 3114. On May 20, 1964, Manuel Rodriguez voluntarily appeared at the Dallas FBI offices and spoke to Wallace Heitman. He told Heitman that the members of SNFE met at bi-weekly meetings at 3126 Harlandale. (Although in his Report, Heitman spelled it Hollandale.) http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11481#relPageId=222&tab=page This Report was dictated on May 22nd and typed up on May 25, 1964. Oswald was seen going in and out of a house on Harlandale St. in Dallas. (I think the address was 3126, and he was seen at least once I believe. The source for this was Sheriff's Deputy Buddy Walthers in his after-action reports) See: http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0276b.htm Walthers mistakenly gives the address as 3128 Harlendale. (wrong number and wrong spelling). In his 11/26/63 follow up Report, Deputy Sheriff, Buddy Walthers wrote that the Cubans who had been at the Harlandale house had moved out between seven days before the President was shot and one day after he was shot. See: http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/html/WH_Vol19_0276b.htm Steve Thomas

David, It was 3126 Harlandale. Steve Thomas

David, Here's a question for you... What was the name of the organization that Henry Wade gave out at Oswald's midnight press conference, and which Jack Ruby corrected him? What are the chances that Buddy Walthers and Henry Wade both made the same mistake? And, if not a mistake, what was the common source of information for both Walthers and Wade? Steve Thomas

Karl, If you go this site, https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/JFK_Assassination.html and scroll down the right hand side of the page, you will find the Commission Documents, and a whole lot more. Oswald's writings in CD 206 begin on page 226 here: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10673#relPageId=231&tab=page You can also find his handwritten diary in the Portal to Texas History here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339322/m1/1/ Steve Thomas

John, https://www.jstor.org/stable/24916337?seq=1 Journal Article The Truth Is Out There: Citizen Sleuths from the Kennedy Assassination to the 9/11 Truth Movement KATHRYN S. OLMSTED John, Not all heroes write books. Steve Thomas

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Jim Looking at a few of the preceding, and following pages, it looks like the FBI was tracing long distances calls from the pay phone at Jerry Duncan's Enco Service Station on Zangs Blvd, across the street from Oswald's residence at 1026 N. Beckley. It looks like researchers were trying to determine if it was LHO, or someone else, who was making calls from that phone. Steve Thomas

Results of Summary Court-Martial of Lee Harvey Oswald July 9 1958 https://ncisahistory.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Results-of-Summary-Court-Martial-of-Lee-Harvey-Oswald-July-9-1958.pdf This seems so wrong on so many levels When was the last time you ever heard of a Marine Private dumping a drink on his Sergeant, inviting him outside, and calling him yellow. No Marine Private I ever heard of – at least not one who expected to live very long. Oswald, the teetotaller Oswald? The same Oswald who used to get onto Marina because she drank wine? That Oswald? Steve Thomas

Sandy, If the shooters had spotters who may, or may not have been in radio contact via walkie talkies, there would be no need for umbrellas or anything else. Over and above that, any umbrella man or dark complected man would be out of view to any sniper looking through a scope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU69lMs2FMg Steve Thomas

Larry, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hosty.htm Mr. HOSTY. On October 3, 1963, I received a communication from our New Orleans office advising that Lee Oswald and his wife Marina Oswald had left the New Orleans area a short time before. According to the communication, Marina Oswald, who was at that time 8 months pregnant, had left New Orleans with her small child, 2-year-old child, in a station wagon with a Texas license plate driven by a woman who could speak the Russian language. Lee Oswald had remained behind and then disappeared the next day. I was requested to attempt to locate Lee and Marina Oswald. Mr. STERN. Did the request come to you personally? Mr. HOSTY. To the Dallas office, and the case was then reopened to me. Dallas was an auxiliary office to New Orleans, and it was reopened. I had previously handled the case. It was reopened and assigned to me. Mr. STERN. And by what office? Mr. HOSTY. By the Dallas office, reopened the case in Dallas. Mr. STERN. By the supervisor? Mr. HOSTY. Supervisor of our squad, yes. Mr. STERN. And what squad is that? Mr. HOSTY. The internal security squad. Mr. STERN. What did you do on October 3 and thereafter? Mr. HOSTY. Well, there wasn't too much to go on, just a woman driving a station wagon with a Texas license plate. I went to the immigration office to check to see if they had any information, tried to determine if we had any persons around the area, I tried to think of anyone who spoke Russian who had a station wagon and who was a friend of Marina Oswald's. I went to Fort Worth and checked in his old neighborhood, Lee and Marina's old neighborhood, attempted to locate Robert Oswald, his brother, and determined that Robert Oswald had left the Fort Worth area, had moved to Arkansas. I then sent out a lead to the Little Rock office which covered the area of Malvern, Ark., where Robert Oswald was living, and requested that he be contacted to see if he knew where Lee Oswald was. Then I continued checking through the Dallas and Fort Worth area attempting to determine if the Oswalds had returned to the Dallas or Fort Worth areas. Mr. HOSTY. I then received a communication on the 25th of October from the New Orleans office advising me that another agency had determined that Lee Oswald was in contact with the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City in the early part of October 1963. Mr. STERN. Did they tell you anything else? Mr. HOSTY. No. Just very briefly that there had been a contact. Mr. STERN. Did this increase your effort to find him? Mr. HOSTY. Very much so, yes. I became curious then. Shortly thereafter, on the 29th of October, I received another communication from the New Orleans office advising that they had a change of address for Lee and Marina Oswald to 2515 West Fifth Street, Irving, Tex. Mr. STERN. You received that information when? Mr. HOSTY. On the 29th of October. Mr. STERN. What did you do then? Mr. HOSTY. Well, I went to--I checked the Dallas crisscross. Unfortunately Irving is a suburb outside of Dallas and people residing in Irving are not covered in the city directory, so it is very difficult to determine who resides at a given address in Irving. I then went out on the same date, on the 29th of October 1963, to the neighborhood of 2515 West Fifth Street, made inquiry at 2519 West Fifth Street, made what we call a pretext interview, and talked to a woman, whose name at that time I didn't know, but who I now know to be Mrs. Dorothy Roberts. Steve Thomas

Bob, Thank you. These are fascinating. Steve Thomas

Ray Hawkins and T.A. Hutson both participated in the apprehension of Lee Oswald. Ray Hawkins call sign was 211 T.A. Hutson call sign was 284 J.D. Tippit is shot. Multiple units respond. A search of the houses in the vicinity is undertaken. The search of the houses proves fruitless. A suspect is spotted at the Library. Multiple units respond. Sometime between the search of the houses and the sighting of a suspect at the Library, Hawkins and Hutson make a stop at a Mobile Gas Station at 10th and Beckley to make a phone call, supposedly in response from a request from Dispatch to call in. I do not find any reference to this phone call in the Dispatch tapes. Is it odd that Tippit and Hawkins are making phone calls on a landline telephone right around this same time period? And what was Hutson doing that he burned out the clutch on his motorcycle? Either the motorcycles in the DPD were poorly maintained, or Hutson was doing some pretty wild riding. (Hawkins) “We had just finished the accident at this time and I was driving an officer, Baggett, and I proceeded to Oak Cliff to the general vicinity of the call after checking out with the dispatcher, stating that we were proceeding in that direction.” http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hawkins.htm From the Dispatch tapes - Between 1:16 and 1:19 PM: DIS 211: 211. DIS: 211. 211: We're clear, Industrial and Stemmons. We'll go out there. DIS: 10-4, 211 "We arrived in Oak Cliff and there were several squads in the general vicinity of where the shooting had occurred---different stories had come out that the person was--the suspect had been seen in the immediate vicinity." Mr. BALL. Did you go to 10th and Patton? Mr. HAWKINS. We drove by 10th and Patton--we didn't stop at the location. Mr. BALL. Where did you go then? Mr. HAWKINS. We circled the vicinity around Jefferson and Marsalis and in that area, talking to several people on the street, asking if they had seen anyone running up the alley or running down the street, and then they received a call, or I believe Officer Walker put out a call that he had just seen a white man running to the Oak Cliff Library, at which time we proceeded to this location. Officer Hutson had gotten into the car with us when we arrived in Oak Cliff, and there were three of us in the squad car--Officer Baggett, Officer Hutson, and myself. Mr. BALL Hutson is also a patrolman? Mr. HAWKINS. Yes, sir. Mr. BALL. A uniformed patrolman? Mr. HAWKINS. Yes, sir; he is a three-wheel officer. (Hutson) http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hutson.htm Mr. HUTSON. As I was being released, (From Elm and Houston) I heard the radio dispatcher come on the radio and give a Signal 19, and that a shooting involving a police officer in the 500 block of East Jefferson... Mr. BELIN. When you heard this news about this shooting in Oak Cliff----by the way, where was your regular station ordinarily? Mr. HUTSON. I worked west of Vernon on Jefferson. Mr. BELIN. Is that Oak Cliff? Mr. HUTSON. Yes; that is West Jefferson Boulevard. Mr. BELIN. What did you do after you heard about the shooting? Mr. HUTSON. I got on my motorcycle and I proceeded down through the triple underpass and up onto R. L. Thornton Freeway to Oak Cliff. Mr. BELIN. Where did you go? Mr. HUTSON. I exited off Jefferson and went to the 400 block of East Jefferson Boulevard and began a search of the two-story house behind 10th Street where the officer had been shot. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. HUTSON. And after we searched this area, I got in the squad car with Officer Ray Hawkins, who was driving, and Officer Baggett was riding in the back seat. Mr. BELIN. Why did you get inside the squad car? Mr. HUTSON. The clutch on my motorcycle was burned out and I couldn't get any speed and I just barely made it over there, and I didn't know whether I would be able to start and go or not. Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do? Mr. HUTSON. We proceeded west on 10th Street to Beckley, and we pulled into the Mobil gas station at Beckley and 10th Street. Mr. BELIN. That is a Mobil gas station? Mr. HUTSON. Yes. Mr. BELIN. All right. Mr. HUTSON. And Officer Ray Hawkins and Officer Baggett went inside of the Mobil gas station. And I am not positive, but I think they used the telephone to call in. I am not positive, but I believe they gave us a call for us to call. I mean their number to call in. At the time they were in the service station, I heard the dispatcher give a call that the suspect was just seen running across the lawn at the Oak Cliff Branch Library at Marsalis and Jefferson. I reached over and blew the siren on the squad car to attract the officers' attention, Officers Baggett and Hawkins, and they came running out of the service station and jumped in the car, and I told them to report to, I can't remember, Marsalis and Jefferson, the suspect was seen running across the lawn at the library. From the Dispatch tapes - 1:34 PM 22: They've got him holed up, it looks like, in this building over here at the corner. 22: (?) ...were you be? 85: 85, library. DIS: 10-4. 211: 211 out at that location. DIS: 10-4. Hawkins is circling the area around Jefferson and Marsalis (where the Library is). (which is about six blocks east of where Tippit has been shot) He heads west and picks up Hutson in the neighborhood of 10th and Patton. They continue west on 10th till they get to Beckley and 10th, where they make a phone call at a Mobil Gas Station. While they're in there on a phone call, Dispatch announces that a suspect has been seen at the Library, so they head back east again. Why didn't Hawkins mention this phone call when he testified before the Warren Commission on April 3, 1964? http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hawkins.htm Why did he and Baggett fail to mention this phone call in their after-action reports in the DPD JFK Archives? The first six lines of E.R. Baggett's and Ray Hawkins' Reports on the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald in the DPD Archives read word for word. Neither mention the stop at the Mobil Gas Station. Baggett: Box 1, Folder# 4, Item# 13 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box1.htm Hawkins: Box 2, Folder# 7, Item# 18 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm Why didn't Hawkins call in to Dispatch that he was “out of service”? Why did it take both Hawkins and Baggett to make this phone call? E.R. Baggett is a patrolman temporarily assigned to the DPD Special Service Bureau. http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf Why did neither Hutson or Hawkins call in to headquarters notifying them that Hutson is now with Hawkins? If Hawkins is on the phone to headquarters, why does Hutson need to turn on the siren alerting Hawkins and Baggett that the suspect has been seen at the Library? Who are Hawkins and Baggett talking to? Why is there no record in the Dispatch tapes of this call to Hawkins to call in to Headquarters? Why didn't Hutson call in to Dispatch that his motorcycle was disabled and needed a tow truck? Why hasn't Hawkins' telephone call from the Mobil Gas Station received the same attention as Tippit's phone call from the Top Ten Record Store? What do you think of the idea that Tippit's call at the Top Ten Record Store and Hawkins' call at the Mobil Gas Station are related; as in "I can't find him.", or "He's not here.", meaning Oswald? From the account's I've read, Tippit was behaving erratically, and the stop at Top Ten was a rushed affair. A fellow officer has been shot. There is an armed and dangerous suspect on the loose. Hawkins responds to the Tippit shooting, but doesn't stop at 10th and Patton. He goes to the Library neighborhood at Jefferson and Marsalis and starts circling the neighborhood. He drives back to 10th and Patton, picks up Hutson, and then he and Baggett stop and make a phone call from a Mobil Gas Station at 10th and Beckley, leaving Hutson in the car. When Hutson blows the siren to let them know that a suspect has been seen at the Library, they go rushing back over there. Is it possible that Tippit and Hawkins were calling the same people? Ray Hawkins: From Mary Ferrell Database Dallas Police Department Patrolman. Friend of Jack Ruby. Name in Crafard's notebook (Ruby's). https://www.maryferrell.org/php/marysdb.php?id=4658 DPD Archives Box 18, Folder# 6, Item# 13 p. 2 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box18.htm Ray Hawkins 5119 Live Oak TA 1 5196 Had a membership card to Carousel Club. Said he had been in there 2 or 3 times and that Ruby said he would give him a permanent pass but never received. Memo from Westbrook to Curry dated December 12, 1963 WC Hearings and Exhibits 25H168 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1141#relPageId=198&tab=page However: There was a permanent pass to the Carousel Club issued to a Ray Hawkins at City Hall. Pass# 227 CE 1322 p. 502 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1317#relPageId=532&tab=page When Kenneth Croy testified to the Warren Commission on March 26, 1964, he said, Mr. GRIFFIN. Where do you live? Mr. CROY. 1658 Glenfield Dallas, Tex. “Mr. GRIFFIN. What is your occupation? Mr. CROY. I have several. Mr. GRIFFIN. Let's have them in order. Mr. CROY. I am in the real estate business. I have a Mobil service station...” 1658 Glenfield is roughly a mile southwest of the Texas Theater posting by an unknown author in the ReopenKennedyCase Forum 1/29/2014 “Croy’s home by the way was 1658 Glenfield. This was the same street that J. D. Tippit lived on until 1961. Glenfield was also the same street that Carl Amos Mather used to live on a few blocks from Tippit’s house when they first became friends. For those unfamiliar with Mather he is connected to proceedings becuase a license plate number was taken down by garage mechanic T. F. White close to the Texas Theater immediately after Oswald’s arrest that was traced back to Carl Amos Mather’s car. The occupant of the car seen by White bore an uncanny resemblance to Lee Harvey Oswald and Carl Mather, when interviewed, told of his friendship with J. D. Tippit. Tippit's old house of 1919 Glenfield, even though he and his family no longer lived there in 1963, was still in his possession and the property was rented out As far as I'm aware it was never investigated who it was rented out to. Croy’s house was three blocks from the house Tippit owned. During his Warren Commission testimony it is interesting to note that Cro was not asked if he knew Officer Tippit”. .Are ivory-handled revolvers standard issue for a traffic cop? https://tvnooz.com/2013/11/12/killing-kennedy-the-cop-who-slapped-the-cuffs-on-lee-harvey-oswald/ Lee Harvey Oswald handcuffs valued at $250,000 http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.com/news/memorabilia/lee-harvey-oswald-handcuffs-valued-at-250-000/22042.page November 30, 2016 "The Dallas Police Department made its officers and detectives buy their own handcuffs, thus allowing Hawkins to retain his private property after the assassination." The lot is estimated to bring in $250,000 ahead of the December 3 close date. https://goldinauctions.com/Lee_Harvey_Oswald_Handcuffs_Used_to_Arrest_Oswald_-lot27299.aspx Oswald was bundled into a patrol car and taken downtown. Hawkins followed and then went about fulfilling the routine written reports and pertinent interviews. The handcuffs, no longer needed once Oswald was secure in the Dallas Police holding cells, were returned to Officer Hawkins. These are the handcuffs that captured President Kennedy’s assassin. The Smith & Wesson cuffs were originally issued to Officer Hawkins when he joined the Dallas Police Department in 1953. Bearing the serial number “38468”, Hawkins used these rare and iconic cuffs throughout his entire career and retained them after he left the force. The Smith & Wesson handcuffs remain a silent reminder of that fateful day in Dallas when the Nation changed forever. The handcuffs are accompanied by a signed and notarized affidavit from Ray Hawkins describing his actions on November 22, 1963 and the role these handcuffs played the capture of Lee Harvey Oswald. It is also noteworthy to mention that this is one of the very few significant JFK-Oswald items that is not in the National Archives. The Dallas Police Department made its officers and detectives buy their own handcuffs, thus allowing Hawkins to retain his private property after the assassination. https://goldinauctions.com/ItemImages/000027/27299c_lg.jpeg Ray Hawkins March 30, 1932 - November 16, 2015 http://www.restlandfuneralhome.com/obituaries/Ray-Hawkins-2/ T.A. Hutson worked Traffic Division Traffic Control Second Platoon 10:00 AM to 6:00 PM https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf Ray Hawkins worked Traffic Division Accident Prevention Bureau 7:00 AM to 3:00 PM https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf Obituary of Jean Hawkins http://www.newhopefh.com/obituaries/Jean-Hawkins-29640/#!/Obituary Steve Thomas

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http://nautil.us/issue/83/intelligence/to-beat-covid_19-think-like-a-fighter-pilot To Beat COVID-19, Think Like a Fighter Pilot “COVID-19 is now squarely inside our collective OODA loop.” OBSERVE ORIENT DECIDE ACT "Boyd’s main strategic argument was that a faster, more maneuverable plane flown by pilots with quick reactions can overcome more powerful adversaries by “getting inside” their loop, changing the facts of the engagement so quickly the opponent can’t keep up. Boyd’s theories were integral to the development of the highly successful F-16 and F/A-18 aircraft, and the OODA loop model has since spread to other strategic realms like sports, politics, litigation, business, and crisis management.” Steve Thomas

Main St. was the traditional exit ramp. Here is Will Fritz talking about transferring Ruby: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/fritz1.htm "For the other one to come to the outside door and when he saw our car flush with the door, bring that man right through those cameras and put him in the back seat, and they did, they shot him right through those people and they didn't even get pictures and we had him lie down on the back seat and two officers lean back over him and we drove him straight up that same street. turned to the left down Main Street, ran him into the jail entrance, didn't even tell the jailer we were coming and put him in the jail. It worked all right." Fritz had also been warned that a mob of about 100 men were going to try and take Oswald. He didn't want Oswald's transport car backing out onto Main St., stopping and making a three-point turn, putting it into drive, and then taking off. Steve Thomas

David, It would be the rear of the car. I'm going on memory here, so if I flub up, forgive me, it's been 20 years or more. The parking garage, and prisoner receiving area was in the basement off of the street level, so these would be downward sloping ramps. Logistically, it would be easier to back "down" the ramp, rather than "up" the ramp. The original plan was to transport Oswald in an armored car. You can see pictures of where they had tried to back that armored car down the ramp, only to find out it was too tall. They had to abandon that plan. (Not much foresight there). Because of the one-way streets (Commerce and Main), one of the entrances had been historically designated as the "entrance" ramp, and one had been designated as the "exit" ramp. You'd go in one, and out the other. Because of my hazy memory, I don't remember which was which. Because of the press of bodies (press, TV cameras, onlookers, and police, etc.), one of the ramps had been closed off. That's why these vehicles were backing in. Steve Thomas

David, I tried to find a written Report from the driver of the car. I haven't found it yet, but I did find this: Statement by Lt. R.E. Swain of the Burglary and Theft Bureau dated 11/24/63 https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth339932/?q=Swain Steve Thomas

I would think that Continuity of Government plans have been around since the British burned Washington in the War of 1812. Steve Thomas

Jim, I always thought it was the driver trying to back the car up, telling those clowns to get the hell out of the way. Steve Thomas

Andrej, Actually, the DPD's internal investigation of Ruby's killing of Oswald was headed by Captain O.A. Jones of the Criminal Investigation Division's, Forgery Bureau. The team consisted of about six Lieutenants, led by Paul McCaghren of CID's, Burglary and Theft Bureau. You can read his HSCA testimony here: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo/mccaghr.htm Revill was just one of the Lieutenants. Cornwall of the Special Service Bureau was another, and I think C.C. Wallace of the Juvenile Bureau was another. Ironically, Curry appointed the "Task Force" on November 29th, the same day that Johnson commissioned the Warren Commission. Initially, they were tasked with finding out how Ruby got into the basement, but ultimately branched out into several other areas including the Tippitt shooting, and whether Ruby and Oswald knew each other. The Task Force was abruptly disbanded about a month and a half after they started, around the time when the Dallas Police Department turned all its investigative material to the Texas Attorney General, Waggoner Carr. You'll find that the "Task Force"s investigative leads and conclusions mirrored the ultimate conclusions of the Warren Commission some nine months later. I was in touch with Paul McCaghren for a while back in the early 2000's. He was ummmm.... prickly. He told me that Curry picked him because he was the best investigator the Police Department had. Steve Thomas

"Oh, the President of the United States has been assassinated in my City?" "Yawn, I think I'll go to the lake". "Call me if you need me." Steve Thomas

Paul, You know, I've wondered, but I just don't know. If you ever find out for sure, could you let me know? Steve Thomas

Jim, I've had some experience working in the council/city manager environment, and Cabell's description sounds about right. Crull told the FBI that he went to the lake that weekend. Why he chose that particular weekend to go to the lake is another matter altogether. FBI interview with Elgin Crull December 12, 1963 (19H394 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1136#relPageId=412&tab=page http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/crull.htm Mr. CRULL. I believe that says simply that I went to the lake, to a cabin. The only change is that there is no cabin. I have a boat on the lake. Mr. HUBERT. Other than that? Mr. CRULL. Other than that, it is accurate. Mr. HUBERT. Now in the next paragraph, which is the third paragraph on page 1, you have put a little mark next to the statement that you heard over the radio of Oswald having been shot. Mr. CRULL I did not hear it over the radio. I was called by the operator of the marina, or one of his people, I do not remember which, who had heard it over the radio. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/cabell_e.htm Mr. HUBERT - Did you have any contact with, City Manager Crull during that time? Mr. CABELL - The Sunday morning, I knew that the city manager was out of town, and in my conversation with Chief Curry subsequent to the shooting of Oswald, I asked him if he had made contact with Mr. Crull, and suggested that if he had not, that he do make immediate contact and ask for his return to the city. Mr. HUBERT - That was after the shooting of Oswald? Mr. CABELL - This was after the shooting of Oswald. And he told me at that time that Mr. Crull had been contacted and was on his way back. Steve Thomas

Bill, During Curry's WC testimony, he was asked three times, by three different Commission members (not the lawyers mind you, but the members themselves), if the Dallas Police had any record of Oswald. Curry unequivocally said no. He stressed "Oswald was not in their files." The research I have done on the list of TSBD employees that comprise CE 2003 tells me, anyway, that Oswald was not in fact in the DPD's official criminal intelligence list. Unofficially, they had to have been aware of him. I've seen Fort Worth newspapers from 1962 on Oswald's return from Russia. They were big articles. You asked about the Fort Worth Police. I have wondered about that too. I wonder how much cooperation, or non-cooperation between the different agencies there was. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/curry1.htm Mr. MCCLOY - While we are waiting for Mr. Rankin to continue his examination, let me ask you this question, Chief. Did you, prior to the assassination, know or hear of Oswald? Mr. CURRY - Never. Mr. MCCLOY - Didn't hear that he had been--there was a defector named Oswald in the city of Dallas? Mr. CURRY - No, sir. Mr. MCCLOY - Never heard of his name? Mr. CURRY - We didn't have it in our files. Representative FORD - Was there anything in your files that Lee Harvey Oswald had been involved with the Dallas police force? Mr. CURRY - No, sir. Representative FORD - No record whatsoever? Mr. CURRY - No, sir. Mr. DULLES - Was there any record of his having made a trip to the Soviet Union and returned? Mr. CURRY - Not in our files. Mr. DULLES - And returned to Texas? Mr. CURRY - We didn't have anything in our files regarding Lee Harvey Oswald. Senator COOPER - I want to come back to that point later, but I want to ask this, outside of what you had in your police files, your records, did you know yourself, or did you know whether anyone in authority in the police force or anyone in the police force, to your knowledge, had any knowledge of the presence of Oswald in Dallas? Mr. CURRY - No, sir; I have asked my criminal intelligence section, which would have been the persons who had knowledge of this. Senator COOPER - Had anyone informed you that he was working in the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mr. CURRY - No, sir. Mr. DULLES - Had he ever tangled with the Dallas Police in any respect of which there is any record? Mr. CURRY - We have no record at all of him. Look at what Revill told the HSCA in what, 1978 maybe? http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/jfkinfo2/jfk4/hscarevl.htm Mr. PURDY. What was the responsibility of the Criminal Intelligence Section in the 1950's and early 1960's? Captain REVILL. Our primary function was the gathering of information on individuals and organizations involved in criminal activities and extremist group individuals, and organizations. Mr. PURDY. Was the vice squad part of this unit? Captain REVILL. The vice squad was a part, an integral part of the Special Services Bureau which consisted of vice, narcotics, and intelligence, each unit commanded by a lieutenant of police. Mr. PURDY. To what extent did members of the intelligence unit have access to information concerning criminal activity generally in Dallas in the 1950's and early 1960's? Captain REVILL. We had complete access to recorded information of criminal elements. Mr. PURDY. When did you join the intelligence division? Captain REVILL. In February of 1958, I believe. Mr. PURDY. What division did you work in prior to that time? Captain REVILL. Prior to that I was a lieutenant commanding the narcotics unit. Mr. PURDY. In your work with the intelligence division, did you gain access to information concerning all types of criminal activity or just specific types? Captain REVILL. All types of criminal activity. Up until Marina Oswald's magic production of the Walker note, what part of Oswald's life would have drawn the attention of the Criminal Intelligence Division of the Dallas Police? His arrest in New Orleans in August might not have come to the attention of the Dallas Police. Actually, I do believe Curry and Fritz and Revill when they testified that Oswald was unknown to them prior to 11/22. The emphasis of the Special Service Bureau seemed;,to me, to be on groups and not lone-wolfs. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/curry1.htm Mr. RANKIN - I will hand you Exhibit No. 710 and ask you if that isn't a copy of what you are referring to. Mr. CURRY - Yes; it is Mr. RANKIN - You won't have to read that, Chief, if you will just describe in a general way what was done that you know about and then I will offer that to show what it proves. Mr. CURRY - In essence, this report says prior to the announcement of the President's visit, there were rumors he would visit Dallas and because of these rumors the intelligence section increased its efforts in attempting to get data concerning not only extremists and subversive groups. Steve Thomas

Andrej, I read a little of Cabell's WC testimony. The eight-member Dallas City Council did not meet between November 22nd and November 24th. The City Manager, Elgin Crull was out of town and did not return until after Oswald had been shot and Curry had to call him and ask him to please come back to town. That's just kind of mind boggling. What do you think were the chances that this "torchlight parade" would have turned into a good old-fashioned wild-west lynch mob? My bet would have been even odds. Cabell Exhibit 1. (19H243) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1136#relPageId=261&tab=page FBI interview with Mayor, Earl Cabell December 12, 1963. https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obituaries/dallas-tx/william-smith-5347137 William Lancaster “Lank” Smith, III passed away peacefully on Monday, December 17, 2012, in Dallas, Texas. He was born in Lebanon, Kentucky on June 14, 1923. He was a beloved husband, father, grandfather, great-grandfather and friend. He attended high school in Lebanon, Kentucky at St. Augustine. He joined the U. S. Army Air Force and played tailback on the Third Air Force football team. He received his undergraduate degree from the University of Notre Dame in 1946. He graduated from the University of Notre Dame Law School in 1950. While at Notre Dame, he played football as a defensive halfback under the coaching of Frank Leahy and was part of Notre Dame’s legendary undefeated and national championship teams in 1946, 1947 and 1948. While in law school, he served as the coach of the Notre Dame Freshman football team. In 1950, he became the coach of the Jesuit High School football team in Dallas eventually guiding them to their first T.C.I.L. State Championship. He served as an Assistant District Attorney in Dallas from 1954 through 1957 and later became a partner in the law firm of Turner, White, Atwood, Meer & Francis. In 1961, he formed his own law firm which eventually became known as Smith, Smith & Smith, LLP. He spent decades practicing law with his sons in Dallas County. His love of Notre Dame and its football team never faded. He was voted Notre Dame Man of the Year, Dallas Club, in 1954. He was elected National President of the Notre Dame Alumni Association 1965 to 1967, then served seven years as a Board Member. He served as President of the N. D. Monogram Club 1986 through 1988 then served seventeen years on its Board. He served as President of the Dallas Citizens Council for Decent Literature, Vice-President of the Cincinnati National Citizens for Decent Literature and was cited by the National Conference of Christians and Jews as a speaker on brotherhood. Steve Thomas