Steve Thomas

Bill, I once read that the Criminal Intelligence Sections of these Special Service Bureaus concentrated on "non-Mafia related" criminal matters. (which kind of goes along with Hoover's denial that the "Mafia" even existed). I would take H.M. Hart's role as Revill's "second in command" with a grain of salt. Revill was a Lieutenant in that Bureau, but there are no Sergeants listed in Batchelor's Exhibit 5002, (see page 4) https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf In his various memos in the Dallas Police Archives, Hart only identifies himself as "Detective" Hart. https://www.maryferrell.org/php/showlist.php?docset=2105 Hosty may have identified Hart as his "counterpart", but I think that's just Hosty being Hosty. Steve Thomas

Chris, Thanks. Steve Thomas

Andrej, One name from this list that jumped out at me was E.B. Germany. I've seen his name before. McLane, Curren R. (Colonel). A History of the Texas State Guard, (TSGRC is the Texas State Guard Reserve Corps.) 1948 - 1965 The Reserve Corps consisted of three Brigades of four regiments each, for a total of twelve regiments. Another one of those "Colonels". Steve Thomas

Keyvan, You might want to contact Orville's daughter, Gayle Nix Jackson. She might have some answers for you. https://gaylenixjackson.com/ Steve Thomas

Ron, I'm not sure why, but this deal with smuggling heroin in from Mexico in iron pipes fascinates me. I'm pretty sure that Ruby was involved with a smuggling ring running cars stolen in Chicago, and run down to Mexico. I wonder if they got paid in heroin. Do you know if the "pipes" investigation went any further? Ruby's brother Hyman, and his sister, Eva sound like a real pair. Thousands of feet of very specialized pipe that gas companies might be interested in... very interesting. Here are some notes I have clipped. Have you ever read footnote 1508: a Secret Service interview with Jack Ruby done on December 6, 1963? It's cited as HSCA JFK Document# 004232 ? HSCA vol. 9 pp. 522-523 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=955#relPageId=531&tab=page HSCA vol. 9, page 1154 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=955#relPageId=1162&tab=page HSCA vol. 9, page 522 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=955#relPageId=530&tab=page WC testimony of Eva Grant http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/grant_e1.htm “Mrs. GRANT. I don't think he ever saw him as far as I know, but I want to tell you that Roland Jones went to Chicago during the period of those 6 months and he did meet my brother Hyman. I don't know what conversation my brother had--my brother thought he was a nice guy--we didn't know anything about his background. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what happened to him? Mrs. GRANT. Oh, yes; he went to jail for something about narcotics from Turkey or something like that.” WC testimony of Eva Grant http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/grant_e1.htm Mrs. GRANT. We were buying metals, at least we were trying to buy metals and materials to sell to--in fact, gas companies--one is--I have the files, believe me, and I think it's at Jonesboro--is it in Arkansas or Oklahoma? Well, we got the specifications and Paul Roland Jones brought me a piece of metal, maybe 6 inches long--it's a certain type of pipe, rather, he brought me, and this man didn't want it, so I sent it on to Chicago to my brother. Mr. HUBERT. Which brother? Mrs. GRANT. It seems to me I sent it to my older brother, Hyman, and he says he knew somebody that might be able to use the amount of footage we had at this place, and we were going to make what you call a finder's fee or broker's fee, but little did we know of Paul Roland Jones' connection, because I'm going to tell you. This man told me several things-- "I'm not fit to be in the night club business, I'm not the caliber of a person." Mr. HUBERT. Who was that--Jones told you that? Mrs. GRANT. Yes; and he seemed to be a very nice fellow and he used my phone for a long distance call to Ardmore, Okla., and I know he paid me $2 or $3 in change when he did it, and I didn't know a thing about this. Mr. HUBERT. About what, ma'am? Mrs. GRANT. Well, wait a minute, I pick up the headlines and they got Paul Roland Jones in jail somewhere in Fort Worth. I no sooner picked this up--this paper, the paper of this city, my brother is calling me from Chicago that the FBI or some organization, one of your organizations went to the Congress Hotel where Jack was staying and they are questioning him about whether--about what he knew about Paul Roland Jones. I don't think Jack ever heard me mention the name. 449 Mr. HUBERT. How long had you known Paul Roland Jones when this occurred? Mrs. GRANT. Not too many months--if it was 6 months or 8 months--it was the longest. Mr. HUBERT. Had you done any business with him? Mr.s GRANT. No--never. Mr. HUBERT. It was simply through meeting at the club? Mrs. GRANT. Well this doctor brought him in one afternoon. He knew him because he went to him for treatment. Mr. HUBERT. Well, that's the first meeting, but thereafter, what was the basis of the meeting? Mrs. GRANT. Nothing. I mean, he came in, and I went to dinner with him and the doctor once, and we went for a ride, but I'll tell you, the doctor and I didn't know anything about his background. Mr. HUBERT. He was ultimately charged, was he not, with the possession of narcotics? Mrs. GRANT. Oh, yes; in fact, we read the story that night. We were shocked. We knew he took trips, we knew he was married to a dancer in New York, but this all came out--wait a minute, his wife came from New York that summer. Mr. HUBERT. Now, we'll get into that later. Did Jack know Paul Roland Jones at that time? Mrs. GRANT. If he did--no; I doubt if he ever even heard of him. Mr. HUBERT. Jack had not come down here yet? Mrs. GRANT. If he was, he didn't stay long. Mr. HUBERT. But to your recollection he didn't know Jones at all? Mrs. GRANT. I don't think he has ever seen him--well, wait a minute, he may have seen the man or heard about him. Mr. HUBERT. I understand that, but at the time of this episode that you are telling us about? Mrs. GRANT. I don't think he ever saw him as far as I know, but I want to tell you that Roland Jones went to Chicago during the period of those 6 months and he did meet my brother Hyman. I don't know what conversation my brother had--my brother thought he was a nice guy--we didn't know anything about his background. Mr. HUBERT. Do you know what happened to him? Mrs. GRANT. Oh, yes; he went to jail for something about narcotics from Turkey or something like that. Mr. HUBERT. Did he have any other charges later against him? Do you know? Mrs. GRANT. Do you want to know something--I went into a hotel here, and let me think, either the Whitmore or the Southland since he has been out, or when he got out, and this friend of mine said, "Guess who got out of jail?" He said "Paul Roland Jones," and I said, "That's nice." Mr. HUBERT. How long ago was that? Mrs. GRANT. This must be 7 years or 8 years--it seems like a long time ago. Mr. HUBERT. Have you seen him since? Mrs. GRANT. Yes; he was here 2 years ago, I think. He came through and he stopped by the Vegas Club one night. Oh, he says, he got in a cab and he was coming through--he probably was here other times but he didn't want anybody to know--he said he was coming through changing planes and he says he's sure going to be picked up and he says to say hello to Jack. Mr. HUBERT. When was that? Mrs. GRANT. Maybe a year and a half or 2 years ago. Mr. HUBERT. Did you see him in November 1963? Mrs. GRANT. Oh, no. Mr. HUBERT. Did you talk to him on the phone? Mrs. GRANT. No. Mr. HUBERT. Did you know he was in Dallas? Mr.s GRANT. No. Mr. HUBERT. Is there anything you know that would indicate that your brother, Jack, knew he was in Dallas? Mrs. GRANT. I don't know. Mr. HUBERT. In November 1963? Mrs. GRANT. I don't know. I'll tell you how I figure this out, if I can go 450 see my contract--you see, my band leader was making a record, you know, a record of music. Mr. HUBERT. But so far as your recollection is concerned, it would be over a year from today? Mrs. GRANT. Easy--easy. Mr. HUBERT. And by "contact with him," of course, I mean--you know--telephone, letters, messages? Mrs. GRANT. No; he came in--he told me that he knows people at Mercury Records and that if I send in the song he was going to make it, and truthfully, I was glad when he came in, when he left, for more reasons than one. We don't discuss his background or anything. Mr. HUBERT. Now, that's over a year ago certainly. Mrs. GRANT. It has been so long--I say a year and a half--the airlines would know quicker than I know because he said he just flew in and he was just there for the evening and going back out, at least that's what he told me. I don't discuss his background or anything like that--at least, that's what he told me. Steve Thomas

Oh boy. The coronavirus was started by Bill Gates and George Soros as a way to make money, and only affects people of the Mongoloid race. https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftvzvezda.ru%2Fnews%2Fvstrane_i_mire%2Fcontent%2F202023353-O9wUV.html This is a Google translated version of this site out of Russia: https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/202023353-O9wUV.html “After such statements, adherents of conspiracy theories literally have no doubt that the virus is of artificial origin, and Bill Gates is one of its main sponsors. Another fact adds weight to this theory - a few months ago, the head of Microsoft held a conditional exercise called Event 201, which simulated an outbreak of a new virus that killed 65 million people in 18 months. The idea of the teachings is simple - globalization in the name of salvation. "So, let's begin. The world has been seized by a global pandemic. And only well-coordinated work of states and big business can stop it. ” “This cannot be a coincidence, when the exercises were conducted, the coronavirus did not exist. Either it should be Nostradamus, or the person who created it. Therefore, these exercises are no longer even indirectly, but directly confirm Gates’s involvement in this story, ”said Dmitry Zhuravlev, political scientist and director of the Institute for Regional Problems. The fact is that while the disease affects only the representatives of the Mongoloid race, such suspicious selectivity raises questions from experts. No less widespread discussion was caused by the story around the laboratory for the study of dangerous viruses. It is located in Wuhan, 32 kilometers from the same market where the disease was first recorded. However, there is another biolaboratory in Wuhan - until recently, nothing was known about it. Her address is like someone’s joke - Gaoxin, three sixes - the number mentioned in the Bible, under which the name of the beast of the Apocalypse is hidden. But it’s even more symbolic that it exists on the money of the famous banker Jorozh Soros, who shares the globalist ideas of Bill Gates. It would seem that nuclear conspiracy theology is completely different, but experts say that a tricky plan lies behind an absurd wrapper. One thing is clear, those who benefit from the disease will continue to fuel mass hysteria. However, on a deadly virus, you can earn not only money, but also subscribers. Bloggers and just active users of social networks, taking advantage of the moment, shoot provocative videos that sometimes scare people, to put it mildly.” Steve Thomas

https://consortiumnews.com/2020/03/16/the-angry-arab-middle-east-faces-corona/ THE ANGRY ARAB: Middle East Faces Corona Politicizing the Crisis Not unlike the U.S., the crisis has been politicized in the region. The Saudi government, for example, imposed a curfew on the predominantly Shi’ite Qatif province, and its media blamed Iran and some even called it “the Iranian virus.” Conspiracy theories about the virus abound, here and there: some in the U.S. blame China, while some in China blame the U.S., and some in Iran blame the U.S. Gotta love it. I'm waiting for the Great Flood stories to start coming out. "Punish the wicked", that 's what I say. Or maybe it's the extraterrestrials' attempts to exterminate mankind. I can never remember which. Steve Thomas

Ron, The viciousness and completeness of del Valle's and Johnny Rosselli's murders always struck me. Steve Thomas

Mark, If you plug his full name, Eladio Ceferino del Valle Gutierrez, into the search box on the Mary Ferrell Foundation page, you get about 400,000 hits. Steve Thomas

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Jerry was always pretty straightforward with me. His approach is from a Historical Association perspective. Steve Thomas

Ron, From that same Commission Exhibit: What do you think the chances are that Marina knew exactly where Oswald was living as of October 15, 1963, despite what she and Ruth Paine told James Hosty on November 1st? Steve Thomas

I have recently become aware of Commission Exhibit 1838 and I am kind of stunned. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1139#relPageId=549&tab=page On March 3, 1964, Marina Oswald drove around in a car with FBI Agents Wallace Heitman and Anatole Buguslav, and pointed out the route she and Lee Harvey Oswald had taken on a night in March, 1963 with him carrying a rifle wrapped up in a raincoat. At the end of the evening in March, 1963, she thinks that Oswald catches a bus somewhere, and she is left alone in the dark to make her own way back home. However, Exactly one month earlier, on February 3, 1964, Marina had told the Warren Commission. WC testimony of Marina Oswald February 3, 1964 http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/oswald_m1.htm Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever observe your husband taking the rifle away from the apartment on Neely Street? Mrs. OSWALD. Now, I think that he probably did sometimes, but I never did see it. You must understand that sometimes I would be in the kitchen and he would be in his room downstairs, and he would say bye-bye, I will be hack soon, and he may have taken it. He probably did. Perhaps he purely waited for an occasion when he could take it away without my seeing it. Mr. RANKIN. Did you learn at any time that he had been practicing with the rifle? Mrs. OSWALD. I think that he went once or twice. I didn't actually see him take the rifle, but I knew that he was practicing. I don't know what to say. Steve Thomas

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I want to send Jill a Supergirl suit. Steve Thomas

David, James Hosty: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hosty.htm On March 11, 1963, I made inquiry at this Elsbeth address, and determined from the landlady, I believe her name was Mrs. Tobias, that she had just evicted Lee and Marina Oswald from her apartment building... she had asked him to leave on March 3, 1963. She told me they had moved a short distance away. She didn't know where. On that same date, I was able to determine from the postal authorities that they had changed their address to 214 Neely Street, also in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas. On the 14th of March, I verified that Oswalds were residing at this address when I found the mailbox with the name of Lee and Marina Oswald at this address, 214 Neely Street. I always wondered about Marina's name appearing on the mailbox. Usually you just see a last name like Oswald, or Brown, or Smith or something. it just struck me as a little odd. Steve Thomas

David, I'm trying to work this into the timeline that we do know. Oswald was brought into the interrogation room at 2:20. Detectives were dispatched to Beckley at 2:40. By 2:00 he had already been arrested and was arriving at City Hall. As you said, no inventory sheet includes this piece of paper, and there is nothing in the dispatch tapes announcing this "discovery". Nor does it explain why, when the police arrived at Beckley, they were asking for a Harvey Lee Oswald (as per Earlene Roberts). Steve Thomas

Please forgive me if this is half-baked. I'm still trying to work this out in my mind. I haven't thought it all the way through yet. That itty bitty piece of paper. Who woulda thunk it? That itty bitty piece of paper could be the key that unravels the case of the JFK murder mystery. Notice that I said, "unravels" and not solves, but it definitely shoots a hole in the official story we've been given. Will Fritz told the Warren Commission that before he went in to talk to Oswald following Oswald's arrest, an officer told him out in the hall that Oswald lived on Beckley. How would that officer have known that? Arthur C. Johnson, the husband of the owner of the rooming house on Beckley told the Warren Commission (10H303) http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/johnso_a.htm Mr. JOHNSON. Well, they just came down there looking for--uh--Oswald. Mr. BELIN. Did they say what his full name was? Mr. JOHNSON. Yes, I believe they did. Mr. BELIN. Lee Harvey Oswald? Mr. JOHNSON. I believe they did. Mr. BELIN. Did they say how they happened to come there? Mr. JOHNSON. "Well, uh--after he was--uh--apprehended out there, they searched him and found my address in his pocket. Mr. BELIN. Your address of 1026 North Beckley? Mr. JOHNSON. That's right. Gladys Johnson told the Warren Commission that; http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/johnso_g.htm Mr. BALL. Did you ever know his true name was Lee Harvey Oswald? Mrs. JOHNSON. No; not until we saw his picture flash on the television as the officers were out. Those particulars was found in his pocket after he killed Tippit, after his arrest. Since the register sheet with O.H. Lee's name on it was in the Johnson's possession, that couldn't been one of the "particulars" Mrs. Johnson was talking about. Mick Purdy wrote in the ROKC Forum 12/08/2019 https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1180p125-did-oswald-deny-living-at-1026-n-beckley Washington Post reporter and Editor and General Manager of the Texas Observer, Ronnie Duggar Duggar interviews Johnson perhaps in the 1966-67 time frame? Bart Kamp posted this in the ROKC Forum 02/08/2020 concerning a 1977 interview Gladys Johnson had with the HSCA: https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1180p125-did-oswald-deny-living-at-1026-n-beckley 1) Either that little piece of paper existed;, or, 2) It didn’t 1) If the piece of paper with the Beckley St. address on it did exist, evidence of its existence was supressed. It wasn’t mentioned by a) any policeman who drove Oswald from the Theater to police headquarters, b) any policeman who searched Oswald while he was at police headquarters, c) any policeman, David Johnston, or Bill Alexander, who arrived at the Beckley St. residence on the 22nd,. d) any inventory sheet of the property seized at Beckley. If the sheet of paper did exist and evidence of it was suppressed, it could mean that the police knew about Oswald and his whereabouts and that either, a) he was under surveillance; or, b) he was not under surveillance, but the police had to manufacture a reason for how they came about going to Beckley; or, c) he was framed 2) If the paper did not exist, it would mean either; a) the Johnsons lied; or, b) the Johnson’s really were told by the police that such a piece of paper existed. What would be the motive for the Johnsons to lie? If the Johnsons were lying, it’s a lie that Gladys Johnson maintained for more than 14 years. I think the Johnsons really were told that such a piece of paper existed, and that the police lied to the Johnsons to justify how they came to be at Beckley. Some element of the Dallas Police Department, but not the Criminal Intelligence Section of the Special Service Bureau, knew about Oswald prior to the assassination. Someone with ties to military intelligence perhaps? Steve Thomas

Larry, What do you think of Pat Puckett Hall’s thesis in this article, Hall remembers Lee Oswald, life at Beckley Avenue rooming house https://www.hsvvoice.com/news/20200224/hall-remembers-lee-oswald-life-at-beckley-avenue-rooming-house wherein she wrote that, <QUOTE> ‘... research puts Oswald in proximity with anti-Castro Cubans and at the same time belonging to a pro-Castro group, the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. Some speculate he may have been meeting with members of the violent anti-Castro group called Alpha 66.” “Plus, there is a report made by Buddy Walthers of the Dallas County Sheriff’s Department, dated Nov. 23, 1963, in which Walthers reports Cubans had been hanging out at 3128 Harlandale Street which is just a couple of miles from the rooming house. The report also states that Walther’s informant told him Oswald had been seen at this house.” “...he was given the job of getting the real assassin in and out of the Texas School Book Depository without being seen. “That still makes him guilty of conspiracy in the assassination, but that does not make him guilty of the actual assassination,” she said.” <ENDQUOTE> I myself believe that the Rambler could very well have have belonged to Raoul Castro of the Dallas chapter of Alpha 66 and that the Dark Complected Man was Manuel Rodrigiez Orcarberro, who was also the dark-complected person seen by Roger Craig driving that Rambler. Her thesis does not sound out of bounds for me. He may not have known what the real assassin's intentions were, and once he realized what happened, that would explain his departure from the TSBD and his quick trip to the Rooming House to get his pistol. Steve Thomas

Bill, On February 5, 1964, Jack Revill wrote a memo to Captain Gannaway on the 13 groups the Criminal Intelligence Section of the Special Service Bureau had under surveillance prior to JFK's visit. You can read a copy here: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340039/m1/1/?q=Revill The GI Forum was not one of those groups. The last line of his two-page memo reads: That memo, plus the list of TSBD employees that comprises CE 2003 located in (24H259) submitted to Captain Gannaway through Jack Revill of TSBD employees, https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1140#relPageId=277&tab=page and the fact that Oswald has the word "NONE" in the second column, tells me that Oswald was not, in fact, on the local DPD subversives radar. How "some officer" told Fritz out in the hall that Oswald lived on Beckley completely escapes me, but I don't believe that that information came through the normal Criminal Intelligence Section channels. Steve Thomas

Dan, Thanks, I noticed that too right off the bat. Due to the absence of screwdriver marks on the screw heads, I'd say these are two different guns. Steve Thomas

From the Bloomberg News: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-21/donald-trump-youtube-ads-will-dominate-election-day "In the immediate run up to the U.S. presidential election and on Election Day, the homepage of YouTube is set to advertise just one candidate: Donald Trump. The president’s re-election campaign purchased the coveted advertising space atop the country’s most-visited video website for early November, said two people with knowledge of the transaction. The deal ensures Trump will be featured prominently in the key days when voters across the country prepare to head to the polls Nov. 3." To read more, see: https://boingboing.net/2020/02/21/trump-campaign-buys-1m-a-d.html Steve Thomas

Washington Whispers, May 4, 1964 https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP75-00149R000300180011-1.pdf https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP75-00001R000400100086-9.pdf New York Times, March 2, 1964 https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP78-02820A000400040086-9.pdf This tells me that as early as December of 1958, the Air Force was already working on contracts to mount cryptographic equipment in the U-3. If Oswald defected to the USSR in October of 1959 and revealed to them information on the U-2, he was giving them outdated technology that our country was already phasing out. To tell the Russians how to shoot down a plane at 70,000 feet meant nothing. It was a throwaway. Besides; the spy world being as it is, the Russians probably already knew that. Steve Thomas