Steve Thomas

Douglas, In addition to the FBI reports on Whitter and Miller, (# 1 in Marina's letter), I'd like to see the trial transcripts. I don't think they have ever seen the light of day. Steve Thomas

Bill. Had Burroughs ever seen Oswald in the movies before? Or anywhere else for that matter? I don't think the WC asked him. Steve Thomas

The Bunker: Command Center Of JFK Assassination Or Merely The World's Most Interesting Basement? By David Bonner - January 9, 2018 https://washingtonbabylon.com/bunker-command-center-jfk-assassination-merely-worlds-interesting-basement/ Division of Emergency Management Digest, December, 1981. vol. 28, no. 3. p. 9. https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth902834/m2/1/high_res_d/UNT-0011-0046.pdf "Retired U.S. Marine Col. CHARLES W. McCOY, Dallas director of Civil Defense for 14 years, passed away August 1, 1981. Burial was in Restland Memorial Park, Dallas. He was 68. Prior to his effective work in emergency management, Col. McCoy served in the U.S.Marine Corps 27 years. He was awarded the Silver Star by President Franklin D. Roosevelt for bravery under fire during World War II, and also held the Bronze Star, the Legion of Merit and the Department of Defense Medallion." Steve Thomas

B.A., In one document, Mayo is listed as the Chairman of the Commission. In another, Smith is listed as the Director of the Commission. I got to wondering what their respective roles might have been. Statement by Colonel John W. Mayo, Chairman of City-County Civil Defense and Disaster Commission at the Dedication of the Emergency Operations Center at Fair Park. http://www.civildefensemuseum.com/fallout/docs/may241961a.jpg WRR was a city-owned radio station. http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25119-old-dallas-civil-defense-emergency-operations-center/?tab=comments#comment-383820 Notice the top right hand corner. Letter also by Boise Smith WRR transmitter building. In the Batchelor's Exhibit CE5002 https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf Boise Smith is listed as a Deputy Chief of Police (along with Lumpkin, Stevenson and Batchelor) and as the Director of the Civil Defense and Disaster Commission. As such, he reported directly to Curry. I ran across this statement by Mayo before the Senate Committee on Armed Services in 1960. This would have been before the Fair Park building was dedicated. I guess he should be included in the list of Colonels. Assistance to Civil Defense by Reserves: Hearing Before a Subcommittee of ... By United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on Armed Services United States. Congress. Senate. Committee on Armed Services - 1960 - ‎Civil defense Hearing Before a Subcommittee of the Committee on Armed Services, United ... Chairman, City-County Civil Defense and Disaster Commission, Dallas, Tex. https://books.google.com/books?id=cmEjAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=Dallas+City-County+Civil+Defense+and+Disaster+Commission&source=bl&ots=aKpwnwOsXd&sig=ACfU3U1DtRiJ-VVQfxisF4xMlxwrn7zFqw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjh6MKaltrlAhUDVt8KHVWCB6IQ6AEwBXoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=Dallas%20City-County%20Civil%20Defense%20and%20Disaster%20Commission&f=false Steve Thomas

On February 12, 2017, I started a thread in the Education Forum enttitled: Revolt of the Colonels? http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23478-revolt-of-the-colonels/ In that thread, I asked if anyone had confirmation that Lester Logue was a Colonel in the Reserves. The closest I have come is this: https://www.facebook.com/notes/ralph-thomas/jfk-files-who-was-lester-lloyd-logue/10156510109877350/ JFK Files: Who Was Lester Lloyd Logue? Complied By Ralph Thomas And Jessica Shores "LESTER LLOYD LOGUE has been a wealthly oil man in Dallas, Texas with extreme right wing views that had connections to and had likely been involved in covert military intelligence activities. He had associations with and was a good friend of George De Mohrenschildt. De Mohrenschildt admitted before he committed suicide under suspicious circumstances that he had been sent by the Dallas CIA office to babyset LEE HARVEY OSWALD before the assassination. Professional Mercenary, solider of fortune and former Army intelligence officer LESTER LOGUE had been an army officer. Considering his background before that, he was likely Army Intelligence." So far, I have not been able to confirm that. What I have found is that during WWII, Lester Logue was a Staff Sergeant with the 587th Engineering Squadron, 75th Air Service Group, 315th Bomb Wing. 75th Air Service Group http://www.315bw.org/NewChapter/28_roster_75th.pdf Lester L. Logue Serial# 37217565 Staff Sergeant 587th Squadron http://www.315bw.org/75asg.html 587th Engineering Squadron: Captain William Lee Wood, Jr., 1st Lt. Frank L. Springer, 1st Lt. George 0. Terlinden, 2nd Lt. Hill W. Beasley, 2nd Lt. Andrew J. Corrigan, 2nd Lt. James E. Donnelly, 2nd Lt. James P. Duffy, 2nd Lt. George W. Kekauoha, 2nd Lt. Waldo C. Kester, Jr., 2nd Lt. Paul P. Plovanich, 2nd Lt. Richard F. Skinner, CWO. ClydeW. Doyel.” The 75th was a Service Group, not a Combat Group. History of the 75th Air Service Group by Al Seeloff http://www.315bw.org/75asg.html The 587th was an Engineering Squadron This military organization had its origin in early 1944, stationed at Tinker Field, Oklahoma, in the headquarter's squadron (replacement pool) and was a small group of men under the command of Captain O'Conner. The personnel shipped into this group were unassigned and after talking to the classification personnel they were assigned to various Air Force schools: Sperry Gyro School, Clerks Schools, Mechanics School, etc., whatever the classification section thought the man would be best in doing. "The air service engineers were trained to repair, maintain and service the B-29's, The Air Materiel Squadron had to get the material to the right place at the right time.” "This is the authorized strength of several of the units at Northwest Field, Guam. From Twentieth Air Force Station List for APO 182 SF (Northwest Field, Guam). Data provided by Mark Boland.” http://www.315bw.org/ 587th Air Engineering Squadron 10 1 239 250 10 officers, 1 Warrant Officer, 239 Enlisted men, 250 Total 75th Air Service Group http://www.315bw.org/NewChapter/14_hist_75th.pdf “Barracks were waiting for Headquarter & 581st Materiel Squadrons on the south side of the runways Service Center "G". The 587th Air Engineer SQ along with the Engineering from the three other Service Groups, were quartered on the north side of the runways Service Center "H". The Engineers lived in two men tents for a while. They went about the task of making the area livable for it was to be their home and no one knew for how long. They made paths and roads from pieces of coral and coconut trees were planted for landscape. They worked with the seabees build-ing ad strips, parking ramps, etc.” 75th Air Service Group http://www.cbi-history.com/part_iii_asg.html#40 587th AES photos courtesy of Mr. Glenn Pendleton Specific individuals not identified. Lineage: 75 Air Base Group, HQ & HQ Sq redesignated 75 Service Group, HQ & HQ Sq (AG 320.2, 10 Jun 42). Activated 22 May 1944. Stations: Greenville Service Group Training Center, Greenville, SC c. Aug- 43-unknown;Herbert Smart AAF, GA 6 Jun 44-5 Nov 44; Tinker Field, OK 7 Nov 44-4 Dec 44; Walker Field, KS 4 Dec 44-5 Apr 45; Ft. Lawton, WA 10-15 Apr 45; Shipment #4804-H, -K, -J 15 Apr 45; Northwest Field, Guam (315 Bombardment Wg, 501 Bombardment Gp) 11 May 45-Sep 45. Hq and Base Services Sq 587th Air Engineering Sq Activated 22 May 1944, Robins Fld, GA per GO Hq, Warner Robins Air Service Command dated 11 May 1944 Moved to Herbert Smart Apt, GA 7 Sep 44 Moved to Tinker Fld, OK, departing 5 Nov 44, arriving 7 Nov 44. Move included Hq & Base Services Sq and 581st Material Sq Moved to Walker AAF, KS 4 Dec 44 Moved to Fort Lawton, WA 3 Apr 45 Shipment #4804 departed 15 Apr 45, arriving Apra Harbor, Guam 10 May 45 So far, I haven't found anything that tells me Logue remained in the Reserves after he was discharged from the Air Force. Steve Thomas

David, hmmmmm... Hosty, Ellsworth and Coyle.... the same three guys meeting the morning of the 22nd to discuss the Miller/Whitter case. hmmmmm Steve Thomas

Bill, Yeah, that's the thing about memoirs and oral histories... lots of back patting. The Hall/Seymour bust actually took place in October of '63. I think that's the one that involved Lester Logue, but I've never gotten it straight in my mind if they were in Dallas twice that late fall. I think they dropped the trailer off, and then came back for it. I know the WC tried to pin the Odio incident on them - but that didn't work. I hadn't put two and two together and connected Revill to that bust. (slapping myself in the forehead) Ah, duh! Steve Thomas

Bill. From Westphal's interview in No More Silence: Steve Thomas

Bill. I think there was a fatal flaw in the Dallas Police Intelligence files in that they seemed to concentrate their efforts in monitoring groups as opposed to single individuals. If you weren't a member of a group, you didn't get entered into their files. From Revill's Report to Gannaway dated February 5, 1964: Revill’s Report to Gannaway on subversive groups in Dallas. DPD Archives Box 14, Folder# 4, Item# 52 http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box13.htm “increased its efforts in attempting to gather data concerning known extremist and subversive groups in Dallas." From Roy Westphal’s interview with Larry Sneed in No More Silence pp 329-330: https://books.google.com/books?id=7uT-47ysB5MC&pg=PA326&lpg=PA326&dq=Dallas+"+Roy+Westphal"&source=bl&ots=eii6yRhLo8&sig=nr0C2_dukxaBfdcQiFnDLg3ugKM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjt-9Xpi8nRAhVpwFQKHZBBDX0Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Dallas " Roy Westphal"&f=false It's not so much the emphasis on Joe Molina, it's the emphasis on the group to which he belonged. “We didn’t keep files on the Democrats or Republicans, but we did on organizations that could cause problems”. I think that's why Oswald didn't make it into the DPD's Criminal Intelligence Division files. He didn't belong to a group. Even with the ACLU, as per Michael Paine, (which was one of the groups Revill mentioned in his Report), he spoke at one of their meetings, but never joined it. Steve Thomas

David, This was not a cut and paste job. Either: a) the contractor who built the shed, the fence, and the support beam for the stairs was drunk and needs to be fired; or, b) there was a major earthquake that took place under the ground at Neely St. sometime in early March, 1963. Steve Thomas

FBI Subject Files. William Paul Gannaway: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=73749#relPageId=2&tab=page Steve Thomas

FBI Subject Files, William Paul Gannaway: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=73743#relPageId=2&tab=page Ouch. Also, https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=73741#relPageId=2&tab=page Newton Fisher would later become a Deputy Chief of Police in the Patrol Division. I wonder if he would go on to become another Colonel in the Reserves. Steve Thomas

Bill, In the spirit of your original thread title: Gary Mack posted this in the Usenet Group alt.assassination.jfk on June 7, 2000. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.assassination.jfk/8150-oOXvjk "Dallas Police Special Services Captain Pat Gannaway died June 4 in Austin, Texas. Gannaway provided the FBI with Jack Ruby's DPD file and also interviewed Jose Molina, one of several TSBD employees police were curious about. Here's the paid obituary from today's News: Deaths Funerals - The Dallas Morning News - 06/07/2000 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- GANNAWAY W.P. ``PAT'' age 84, died unexpectedly Sunday June 4, 2000. He was born in Whitney, Texas on February 3, 1916. Pat was a member of Hyde Park Baptist Church. Pat graduated from Whitney High School and later attended Southwest Texas State University in San Marcos, Texas. He moved to Dallas, Texas where he was a city police officer until he entered the Army through the Selective Service in September, 1942. He was commissioned a second lieutenant at the Army Engineer Officer Candidate School at Fort Belvoir, Virginia on July 7, 1943 and assigned to the 328th Engineer Combat Battalion of the 103rd Infantry Division, Camp Claiborne, Louisiana. He went overseas with this division as a platoon leader of 3rd Plt, Company A, 328th Engineer Combat Battalion. While with this division he was awarded a Bronze Star Medal and one Oak Leak Cluster for his contribution to the successful completion of the division's mission as reflected in general orders 44 and 142, 103rd Infantry Division, 1945. After the 103rd Division captured Innsbruck, Austria he was transferred to the 45th Infantry Division and designated company commander of Company A, 120th Engineer Combat Battalion. When the 45th Division was demobilized he was placed on inactive status as a captain CE-AUS. He returned to the Dallas Police Department but continued his military training in the USAR. He transferred to the Army Intelligence Service and retired as a lieutenant colonel Al-USAR on February 3, 1976. He also retired from the Dallas Police Department with the rank of Director in July 1971. After retirement he moved to Austin, Texas and became Coordinator Against Organized Crime for the Criminal Justice Department. He served in this position until he retired in 1978." PS: I'm going to put him with the "Colonels" notes I have. Steve Thomas

Colonel George Lumpkin, Deputy Chief of Police. Commandant of the 4150th Army Reserve Training School. Took command of the Texas School Depository crime scene following the assassination. First reported Oswald as “missing”. Played pivotal role in securing interpreter for Marina Oswald. Took control of the first draft of the Dallas Police Dispatch Tapes which were submitted to the Secret Service. Colonel Boise Smith, Dallas Police Department, Deputy Chief of Police. Director, Civil Defense and Disaster Commission, whose Headquarters was at the Dallas Fairgrounds with its own continuity of government communications system. Colonel Geoge Whitmeyer, “...taught Army intelligence”. Rode in motorcade pilot car which made an unexplained stop in front of the TSBD during the motorcade. Colonel Harold D. Byrd. Chief Executive Officer of Civil Air Patrol. Owned the TSBD. Later employed Mac Wallace after he was convicted of killing John Kinser. Revolt of the Colonels? Steve Thomas

I wonder what the possibilities are that Guy Bannister and (later on, Colonel) George Whitmeyer knew each other. Monroe News-Star, Monroe, LA. March 15, 1954. page 13 https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/90445615/ COMPLETES COURSE — Capt. George L. Whitmeyer, whose wife, Frances Whitmeyer, resides here at 217 Pargoud Drive, has recently completed a 17-week Associate Infantry Office Advanced Course in Fort Penning, Ga., which is given to company and field grade officers to enable them to return to their units with a more thorough understanding of their command positions. Capt. Whilmeyer. in service for 12 years, has served in Hawaii, Europe, Korea, and Japan, and been awarded the Silver Star, Bronze Star, Purple Heart and the Combat Infantry Badge. Steve Thomas

Bill, From Paul Hoch’s Third Decade article” I don’t know if Sylvia Meagher or Paul Hoch were aware of the 4150th Army Reserve Training School located in Dallas. Army Reserve Colonel, and Dallas Deputy Chief of Police, George Lumpkin was the Commandant of that School. He played a pivotal role in getting an interpreter for Marina Oswald. B.B. Smith, also a Deputy Chief of Police and the Director of the Dallas Civil Defense and Disaster Commission, whose headquarters was located at the Fairgrounds, was also associated with the School. Colonel George Whitmeyer, who Winston Lawson said “taught Army Intelligence”, probably taught at that same school on the E. Northwest Highway. see: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25557-4150th/?tab=comments#comment-395116 I don't think Jones needed Doughty. Steve Thomas

Larry, No, you're right about the Strike Command cable itself. It was coming out of Washington. Technically, Jones would not claim ownership of it. I feel like Jones was being asked about its contents, and he wanted no part of it. While I think there were, and are, real concerns about the 112th's role in domestic surveillance, I myself just don't think they had any part to play in JFK's assassination. Thank you for the recommendation about Raven Rock. I will have to look into it. Steve Thomas

Larry, Do you know if Morales had much, if any, contact with Jerry Buchanan and his Alpha-66 connections out of Alabama and Miami? Frank Sturgis seems to be heavily involved in those. Steve Thomas

Larry, The fact that Jones took no pride in the "Stringfellow cable":, didn't know who George Whitmeyer was; and Stringfellow and Biggio manning the radio at the Fairgrounds on the 22nd, tells me that there was a line of communication going on that has never really been explored. Personally, I think the 112th is a dead end and a smoke screen. Steve Thomas

Paul, That article I referenced in my earlier post, THE UKRAINIAN EXPERIENCE IN ARGENTINA, 1897–1950: AN HISTORICAL OVERVIEW PDF] the ukrainian experience in argentina, 1897–1950 – cejsh was illuminating for me. One of the footonotes the author used talks about how Russian policy changed after Stalin died, and they allowed former residents of the Ukraine to return to Russia. "By the mid-1950’s, after Stalin’s death, the Kremlin had reversed its earlier policy of dissuading sympathetic expatriates from resettling in the Soviet Union. A Committee for the Return to the Homeland was set up in East Berlin and periodicals were published in several languages for expatriates in the diaspora. In Argentina the response ran in the thousands." I almost hate to say it, because it's so mind numbing, but if you go back to the WC testimony of Paul Raigorodsky, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/raigorod.htm it puts his testimony in context. The religious splits in the Ukrainian community carried over into the political sphere, especially in western Ukraine along the Polish border. The Ukraine, and the battle between East and West, has been an issue for a long time. Steve Thomas

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Larry, Posted by James Richards on July 11, 2007 (edited) in the Education Forum Cryptonym: JMFIG JMFIG is defined as the "Opa-locka Naval Base. Opa-locka CAC (note: Caribbean Admissions Center) https://www.maryferrell.org/php/cryptdb.php?id=JMFIG 198-10004-10157 MOVEMENT OF THE CARIBBEAN ADMISSION CENTER (CAC) 1 Background on the use of the Opa-locka facility. "The Caribbean Admission Center was established in March 1962 as a joint DOD/CIA operation under CIA operational control and Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) cover..." See https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=19773#relPageId=10&tab=page - it shows that "CIA's Domestic Contact Division (DCD) had primary responsibility for obtaining positive intelligence interest from refugees." DCD officers conducted interviews with refugees at the CAC. Steve Thomas

Jim, I don't know of any other records that show Oswald was at the YMCA on October 3rd. In Mary Ferrell's Chronologies, she writes that Lee did not call Marina that day and wonders why. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40391#relPageId=153&tab=page He does go to the Texas Unemployment Commission, is interviewed by a Harry Sanderson, and files an unemployment claim. They closed at 4:30 each day. FBI 105-82555 Oswald HQ File, Section 118 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=40391#relPageId=153&tab=page Oswald 201 File, Vol 3, Folder 9A, Part 2 https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95615&relPageId=90&search=TEC FBI interview of Harry Sanderson. Harry Sanderson processed an unemployment claim for Oswald on October 3, 1963. Why the word "Service" appears on his YMCA receipt: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hulen.htm Mr. JENNER. And the last in this series is dated October 3, 1963, and in this instance it is in the name of Lee H. Oswald, and it shows an address, whereas, none of the other of the first four had an address, and the address is listed here as Toro [spelling] T-o-r-o, Calif. [Spelling] C-a-l. I notice something on the first of the series which I notice again on this one of October 3, 1963, which is the printing on the line, entitled, "Membership fees," and there is the word written in longhand, "service." That's true of the first and the last of these receipts--what does that indicate? Mr. HULEN. That indicates that he was a serviceman and that, in my opinion, that waives the membership fee. The first receipt is for the night of October 15, 1962 (This is page 190 of vol. 20) https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1137#relPageId=210&tab=page Steve Thomas

I just ran across this in looking for something else, and thought I'd pass it along: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files/B%20Disk/Boxley%20Memos%20Miscellaneous/Item%2006.pdf 4. J. CARLIN BRANDT, chief, accounting clerk for Mobil Oil, moved from 601 N. Ewing St. in 1963 to 223 S. Ewing, Jack Ruby’s apartment house. Brandt is the name of the prime suspect in the Minute Man recruitment effort in the Matamorros bar six weeks before the assassination who told Alan Dale’s informant that the Minute Men had a contract to kill JFK. The latter Brandt - one John Brandt, combination gunsmith and Minute Man from the Ray Brantley circle in Dallas, a former employee of Brantley’s, dropped out of directory listings after the assassination, and Penn Jones advises via Mary now that John Brandt is living covertly at 2960 Colfing Green, Farmers Branch, Texas, another widely recognized residential area of Dallas, which was a hot-bed of anti-castro speeches and activities prior to the assassination. At the time of the killing, JOHN 3RANDT was living at 801 Rindie, Irving. He was given a job by LING-TEMPCO-VAUGHT, than disappeared about a year ago, ostensibly for an operation, and went into his present hiding in Farmers Branch. Steve Thomas